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The Sanders people are going nuts. Hopefully they don't go on ANOTHER shoot spree

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All the images I see show that the non reporting areas are HEAVY Bernie areas.

 

The fix was in from the beginning

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So creepy joe is barely a rival with Buttplug, Warren and Sanders in feb 20 yet somehow he's considered trump's rival in July of 19

 

Think about that.  

 

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Irony... Dems are complaining about the Electoral College yet, they create a system where someone can win a popular vote, but not get as many delegates as someone with lesser votes.

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5 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Irony... Dems are complaining about the Electoral College yet, they create a system where someone can win a popular vote, but not get as many delegates as someone with lesser votes.

The irony isn't lost on them, they know what they are doing, all integrity is out the window 

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7 hours ago, iam90sbaby said:

The irony isn't lost on them, they know what they are doing, all integrity is out the window 

This sums up everything they are in life. Funny part is, they know everyone knows they don't have any integrity, yet they pursue it as a means to gain stupid people's support. They feel that there are more stupid voters than intelligent ones. Obama won by that method. Killary almost did.

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Jimmy Dore with the Bernie fan examination on Shadow Inc and the DNC taking over the vote counting in Iowa. I do believe he's right and they're deliberatly hosing Bernie, but even if he's wrong and Shadow Inc, the Iowa Dems, and DNC have intentions as pure as could be, it's good that Bernie Bros are raising these questions amongst themselves.

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17 hours ago, drobeski said:

So creepy joe is barely a rival with Buttplug, Warren and Sanders in feb 20 yet somehow he's considered trump's rival in July of 19

 

Think about that.  

 

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Trump is scared of Biden because he polls very well in PA, WI, OH, MI.  Trump won the 2016 electorate because of 70,000 TOTAL votes in those states. He knows he'd be lucky to win even one of those states against Biden. Trump thought he could get Mexico to pay for the wall. He surely wasn't counting on his ability to predict the Democratic primaries. 

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16 hours ago, DonS said:

Have they come out with the final results yet? 

Bump.  Does anyone in Iowa have Excel?  Google spreadsheet?  An abacus?  :dunno:

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7 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

Don't respond to the moron.  2016 proved he knows nothing.  Actually proved libs know nothing because of being spoon fed so long by the media.

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26 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Trump is scared of Biden because he polls very well in PA, WI, OH, MI.  Trump won the 2016 electorate because of 70,000 TOTAL votes in those states. He knows he'd be lucky to win even one of those states against Biden. Trump thought he could get Mexico to pay for the wall. He surely wasn't counting on his ability to predict the Democratic primaries. 

Biden knows how to talk to blue collar people which Hillary could not pull off. So that's a plus. Unfortunately, Biden has dementia and is inspiring as belly button lint. Plus he has a son named Hunter who's ten times more twice as embarrassing as Billy Carter was for Jimmy.

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6 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Don't respond to the moron.  2016 proved he knows nothing.  Actually proved libs know nothing because of being spoon fed so long by the media.

I like having him around, it makes things more interesting.  :thumbsup:

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1 minute ago, Voltaire said:

Biden knows how to talk to blue collar people which Hillary could not pull off. So that's a plus. Unfortunately, Biden has dementia and is inspiring as belly button lint. Plus he has a son named Hunter who's ten times more embarrassing than Billy Carter was for Jimmy.

I'll overlook the dementia because he's much less farther along in his mental decline than Trump is. And Donald Jr is a walking punchlline who would be sweeping floors if his daddy wasn't who he is.  So let's cross off the sons being a factor. But I do agree that he's uninspiring. 2020 will be all about exciting the public. Trump won in 2016 because Hillary was a bore compared to Obama. And the number of voters was way down.  Even though I dislike Sanders, he would certainly get voters to come out because of his popularity with young voters. And Buttigieg has a bit of Obama in him (not literally, like in his ass, since that joke really writes itself). He's a great speaker and motivator.  If he can stay near the top like he did in Iowa, he could get momentum and end up being the guy. He would get all the young supporters from Bernie once he dropped out. But he needs to do something about his lack of popularity with african americans. Choosing a Kamela Harris or Stacey Abrams as his running mate would help. But I fear he's going to get trounced in the south and may not be able to get the nomination. 

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3 minutes ago, The Observer said:

I'll overlook the dementia because he's much less farther along in his mental decline than Trump is. And Donald Jr is a walking punchlline who would be sweeping floors if his daddy wasn't who he is.  So let's cross off the sons being a factor. But I do agree that he's uninspiring. 2020 will be all about exciting the public. Trump won in 2016 because Hillary was a bore compared to Obama. And the number of voters was way down.  Even though I dislike Sanders, he would certainly get voters to come out because of his popularity with young voters. And Buttigieg has a bit of Obama in him (not literally, like in his ass, since that joke really writes itself). He's a great speaker and motivator.  If he can stay near the top like he did in Iowa, he could get momentum and end up being the guy. He would get all the young supporters from Bernie once he dropped out. But he needs to do something about his lack of popularity with african americans. Choosing a Kamela Harris or Stacey Abrams as his running mate would help. But I fear he's going to get trounced in the south and may not be able to get the nomination. 

Take a GheyNoMore pill?  :dunno:

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22 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Is that the reason?  Black voters traditionally are anti-LGBT? 

Umm... yeah.  Is this a trick question?  :unsure:  

Then again, the MSM is bending over backwards to not call the black community anti-ghey.  Here is a good example:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/whats-really-behind-pete-buttigiegs-lack-of-support-among-black-voters/

But let's be honest:  if you are doing SOOO poorly with blacks vs. other candidates, it isn't because of complex political differences...

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4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Umm... yeah.  Is this a trick question?  :unsure:  

Then again, the MSM is bending over backwards to not call the black community anti-ghey.  Here is a good example:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/whats-really-behind-pete-buttigiegs-lack-of-support-among-black-voters/

But let's be honest:  if you are doing SOOO poorly with blacks vs. other candidates, it isn't because of complex political differences...

That's strange to me if true.  The blacks complain about being treated differently and then they think gays are somehow a lesser person.  Are they only anti-bigotry in certain situations?  

 

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1 hour ago, drobeski said:

So when joe drops out,  can trump ask Ukraine to investigate his crimes ?

Trump probably won't care about Biden anymore if he drops out.

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12 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Trump probably won't care about Biden anymore if he drops out.

Exactly.  We'll hear about something bad that Sanders did. 

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16 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Trump probably won't care about Biden anymore if he drops out.

Oh, I'm pretty confident that he wants to see this Biden thing thru.  :)

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1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

Oh, I'm pretty confident that he wants to see this Biden thing thru.  :)

He might since he's spent so much time on it.  I don't think he would have bothered with Biden at all if he wasn't running for President in the first place.  He doesn't care.

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3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Oh, I'm pretty confident that he wants to see this Biden thing thru.  :)

Biden has challenged Trump publicly to tests of strength/endurance. Trump is all about image. Remember when he retweeted that Trump as Superman image?  Or his head on Rocky Balboa's body?  As soon as Biden started calling him out on his physical condition, he became a lifelong enemy.  Trump's psyche can't handle the implication that he's not very manly.  So you may be right.

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12 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

He might since he's spent so much time on it.  I don't think he would have bothered with Biden at all if he wasn't running for President in the first place.  He doesn't care.

There you go again, speculating what Trump thinks. Maybe you can be a star witness in the Democrats next sham investigation.

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3 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

There you go again, speculating what Trump thinks. Maybe you can be a star witness in the Democrats next sham investigation.

Of course it's speculation.  To say the opposite of me is also speculation.  That's what half the crap we post on here is.  It's a forum where people discuss their opinions, what do you expect?

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4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Of course it's speculation.  To say the opposite of me is also speculation.  That's what half the crap we post on here is.  It's a forum where people discuss their opinions, what do you expect?

I think that you abduct little boys and make them touch your pee-pee.

No proof needed. Guilty until proven innocent.

At some point, Democrats are going to need some proof of their accusations, not just feelings.

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6 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Of course it's speculation.  To say the opposite of me is also speculation.  That's what half the crap we post on here is.  It's a forum where people discuss their opinions, what do you expect?

No, because we know what Trump has said his motivation is.  You don't want to believe him that's fine but it's not speculation to say that his motivation is to root out corruption if that's what he says it is.

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1 minute ago, Strike said:

No, because we know what Trump has said his motivation is.  You don't want to believe him that's fine but it's not speculation to say that his motivation is to root out corruption if that's what he says it is.

We all know for a fact that Trump lies all the time.  How do you decide what he's saying is true and what's not?  All I did was give my opinion based on what I know about Trump and you guys don't agree with it, which is fine.

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5 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

I think that you abduct little boys and make them touch your pee-pee.

No proof needed. Guilty until proven innocent.

At some point, Democrats are going to need some proof of their accusations, not just feelings.

You're dense.

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2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

We all know for a fact that Trump lies all the time.  How do you decide what he's saying is true and what's not?  All I did was give my opinion based on what I know about Trump and you guys don't agree with it, which is fine.

How do you know what the truth is, when the "Wrap-up Smear" is constantly ran against Trump? God, you're dense.

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7 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

No proof needed. Guilty until proven innocent.

At some point, Democrats are going to need some proof of their accusations, not just feelings.

If only there were witnesses with first-hand information. Then we could know exactly what happened.  Oh wait...

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1 minute ago, lickin_starfish said:

How do you know what the truth is, when the "Wrap-up Smear" is constantly ran against Trump? God, you're dense.

I don't know what the truth is and that's why I don't say that I do.  None of us know for sure, we just have our opinions and speculate what is going on.  How are you not comprehending this?

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3 minutes ago, The Observer said:

If only there were witnesses with first-hand information. Then we could know exactly what happened.  Oh wait...

They wouldn't believe the witnesses.  They would just give us their opinions on what they think is really going on.  Apparently it's different for them though. 🙄

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