bostonlager 2,467 Posted February 24, 2020 I'm not surprised to see the top 3 to include the teams that Peyton Manning played for. Cheaters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,213 Posted February 24, 2020 Cardinals #32... why aren't they trying?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,128 Posted February 24, 2020 Looks like something that a Patriots fan invented. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted February 24, 2020 If the Jets are the second biggest cheaters in the NFL, they aren't cheating well enough... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,902 Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Looks like something that a Patriots fan invented. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Looks like something that a Patriots fan invented. I'll say. They are #1 and no one else is even close. They just got busted again this past season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted February 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Looks like something that a Patriots fan invented. Was thinking people were gonna say this. Only because they can’t grasp that other teams are bigger cheaters but aren’t as good as the Pats. So it’s a nonissue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,213 Posted February 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Djgb13 said: Was thinking people were gonna say this. Only because they can’t grasp that other teams are bigger cheaters but aren’t as good as the Pats. So it’s a nonissue So... you are saying that the Pats would win if they measured "cheating efficiency"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted February 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, jerryskids said: So... you are saying that the Pats would win if they measured "cheating efficiency"? Uh....no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted February 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, Djgb13 said: Was thinking people were gonna say this. Only because they can’t grasp that other teams are bigger cheaters but aren’t as good as the Pats. So it’s a nonissue "As good"? They are constantly getting caught. They suck at it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,128 Posted February 24, 2020 24 minutes ago, The Observer said: "As good"? They are constantly getting caught. They suck at it I think he means the team as a talent, not the ability to stealthly cheat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,128 Posted February 24, 2020 39 minutes ago, Djgb13 said: Was thinking people were gonna say this. Only because they can’t grasp that other teams are bigger cheaters but aren’t as good as the Pats. So it’s a nonissue You know what, let's say you're right. If that's the case, don't you think that what the Patriots did warrant a much higher position in the rankings, especially since that the Patriots also did what everyone else did on the other forms of cheating? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Blue 06 195 Posted February 24, 2020 I read the Giants summary and some of these are pretty stupid. The one that I liked is that Lawrence Taylor would routinely hire escorts and send them to the opposing running backs the night before a game, in order to tire out their legs. That is just brilliant and I’m sure the running backs were okay with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted February 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: You know what, let's say you're right. If that's the case, don't you think that what the Patriots did warrant a much higher position in the rankings, especially since that the Patriots also did what everyone else did on the other forms of cheating? It has them ranked literally by how many offenses they’ve had. I understand if you hate the Pats and want to see them go down in flames. But you have to look at it objectively (apparently hard for everyone here to do). And objectively, there’s tons of teams that cheat more than the pats. They just don’t have the success the pats have had. Hard to imagine the patriots cheating more during this dynasty than all the other teams have Their entire organizational careers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,128 Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Big Blue 06 said: I read the Giants summary and some of these are pretty stupid. The one that I liked is that Lawrence Taylor would routinely hire escorts and send them to the opposing running backs the night before a game, in order to tire out their legs. That is just brilliant and I’m sure the running backs were okay with it. Yeah, and one of the Tampa one's, Brad Johnson scuffing the footballs for the Super Bowl... they literally state that Rich Gannon knew about it before the game. How is it cheating if the other side knows about it? Things like the Giants one you pointed, plus this one involving the Bucs, is just more proof that this site is driven by Patriots fans who are trying to justify the Patriots' cheating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,128 Posted February 24, 2020 Just now, Djgb13 said: It has them ranked literally by how many offenses they’ve had. I understand if you hate the Pats and want to see them go down in flames. But you have to look at it objectively (apparently hard for everyone here to do). And objectively, there’s tons of teams that cheat more than the pats. They just don’t have the success the pats have had. Hard to imagine the patriots cheating more during this dynasty than all the other teams have Their entire organizational careers I don't hate the Patriots at all, I just call a spade a spade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted February 24, 2020 Just now, TBayXXXVII said: I don't hate the Patriots at all, I just call a spade a spade. So what do you call the tons of other teams who’ve cheated more than them then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I don't hate the Patriots at all, I just call a spade a spade. racist!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,128 Posted February 24, 2020 Just now, Djgb13 said: So what do you call the tons of other teams who’ve cheated more than them then? Did you actually read any of those things? Big Blue and I just pointed out 2 that were completely ridiculous. Brad Johnson told Rich Gannon what he was going to do... IT SAYS IT IN THE LINK. If Gannon had a problem with it, he'd have told the NFL. Also, it's not cheating if both sides know what's happening. Big Blue posted that in the Giants section, they're talking about LT paying escorts to hook up with the other players. That's not cheating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,128 Posted February 24, 2020 Just now, Patriotsfatboy1 said: racist!! Damn! Caught me! LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said: Did you actually read any of those things? Big Blue and I just pointed out 2 that were completely ridiculous. Brad Johnson told Rich Gannon what he was going to do... IT SAYS IT IN THE LINK. If Gannon had a problem with it, he'd have told the NFL. Also, it's not cheating if both sides know what's happening. Big Blue posted that in the Giants section, they're talking about LT paying escorts to hook up with the other players. That's not cheating. And where did you comment on all this? Cause it wasn’t in this thread. Either way, you sound like you’re trying to make excuses for cheating. Which is ok as long as it’s not for the Patriots right? I’m not worried though. You can do what you want. I don’t wanna sit here and argue about stupid stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,128 Posted February 24, 2020 @Djgb13 Look under spygate... the "Victim": VICTIM: New York Jets (and Roger Goodell's ego) Seriously? Those are the only 2 victims? C'mon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said: @Djgb13 Look under spygate... the "Victim": VICTIM: New York Jets (and Roger Goodell's ego) Seriously? Those are the only 2 victims? C'mon. I told you I really don’t want to deal with this anymore cause I legit don’t care. Peoples minds aren’t going to be changed so why bother? Not trying to be a d1ck. I just vowed to not waste time on things like this anymore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,128 Posted February 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Djgb13 said: And where did you comment on all this? Cause it wasn’t in this thread. Either way, you sound like you’re trying to make excuses for cheating. Which is ok as long as it’s not for the Patriots right? I’m not worried though. You can do what you want. I don’t wanna sit here and argue about stupid stuff I said it was in the link (from the OP). Read the accusations. In the Tampa one... directly from the site: Quote PUNISHMENT: Although Raiders QB Rich Gannon threw five interceptions in the loss, he was allegedly informed by Johnson about the planned ball manipulation. It's not cheating if the other team knows about it. And then this comment (a continuation of the previous one): Quote It doesn't matter much, though, because the NFL wouldn't really care about teams manipulating footballs until 12 years later. Nonetheless, what Johnson confessed to was not legal. Clearly, it's agenda driven. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted February 24, 2020 Successful fishing expedition by the author of that article. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 24, 2020 Wentz cheats his team out of their money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted February 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I said it was in the link (from the OP). Read the accusations. In the Tampa one... directly from the site: It's not cheating if the other team knows about it. And then this comment (a continuation of the previous one): Clearly, it's agenda driven. Bro I don’t want to keep looking into it is what I’m saying. I’ve got other stuff to do than worry about this. I’d rather just agree with you and move on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,695 Posted February 24, 2020 I have no issue with the Patriots cheating. Never affected the Giants. Quite the contrary. Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted February 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: @Djgb13 Look under spygate... the "Victim": VICTIM: New York Jets (and Roger Goodell's ego) Seriously? Those are the only 2 victims? C'mon. Pats fans want everyone to forget that they cheated. Multiple times. Just like Saints fans want you to forget about Bountygate and purposely trying to injure players. And when you bring it up, they blame Goodell instead of the team. This is just a continuation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted February 24, 2020 24th??? Jerry and Garrett even sucked at cheating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, The Observer said: Pats fans want everyone to forget that they cheated. Multiple times. Just like Saints fans want you to forget about Bountygate and purposely trying to injure players. And when you bring it up, they blame Goodell instead of the team. This is just a continuation. It was a video made by Russian bots. Trumps fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,128 Posted February 24, 2020 24 minutes ago, The Observer said: Pats fans want everyone to forget that they cheated. Multiple times. Just like Saints fans want you to forget about Bountygate and purposely trying to injure players. And when you bring it up, they blame Goodell instead of the team. This is just a continuation. Yup, nailed it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,995 Posted February 24, 2020 1) We're #1!!! We're #1!!!! 2) They gave 3 times the normal points for an infraction that has never been proven? That doesn't help the credibility of the article. So I'm a little torn. It's great being the best at something but if the scoring isn't accurate I'm not sure I can call it a win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,128 Posted February 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Strike said: 1) We're #1!!! We're #1!!!! 2) They gave 3 times the normal points for an infraction that has never been proven? That doesn't help the credibility of the article. So I'm a little torn. It's great being the best at something but if the scoring isn't accurate I'm not sure I can call it a win. It's complete bull crap. It's not a coincidence that the top 4 teams are either a division opponent (who told the NFL about the Patriot's spying), and the Patriots 3 biggest opponents over the last 20 years. Zero credibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,695 Posted February 24, 2020 The internet never lies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,483 Posted February 24, 2020 Michael Irvin pushed off on every catch he ever made. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kanil 519 Posted February 25, 2020 On 2/24/2020 at 6:57 AM, Djgb13 said: Was thinking people were gonna say this. Only because they can’t grasp that other teams are bigger cheaters but aren’t as good as the Pats. So it’s a nonissue It was a pats fan that made it... and used completely arbitrary scoring to make other teams look worse. Pats even cheat about cheating. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,400 Posted February 26, 2020 On 2/24/2020 at 8:18 AM, Cruzer said: 24th??? Jerry and Garrett even sucked at cheating. it shows you how much we've been reamed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,604 Posted February 26, 2020 This is dumb. It’s basically who has had the most ped violations the Chargers two things outside of that was steroid gate in 1963 before they were even in the NFL and towel gate which was a trainer bringing an extra towel onto the field during a timeout. They were fined 20 for violation and appealed it and won. That’s not cheating i might listen to an argument about the Pats not being number 1. But 14??? Cmon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,695 Posted February 26, 2020 The Chargers cheated their fans out of a HOF qb when they traded Eli. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites