White Men Can’t Coach?

[vuduchile 1,941]

I interviewed for and was offered the JV basketball coaching gig back in Aug.   I was told by the head coach and the AD that I was the unanimous choice of the 4 interviewers.  (Varsity HC, HS Principal, AD, and Varsity Captain).  
 

I accepted the job, and the AD told me he’d have more details about the season, practice times, etc when we got more guidance from the MHSAA.  The varsity coach and I have been regularly communicating about goals, strategy, etc.  
 

Yesterday, the AD stopped by my shop to tell me the JV hoops gig is a no-go now.  
 

Apparently, the Superintendent and his hiring committee decided to change directions and give the job to the guy who has been running the after school elementary program for the past year.  
 

He was the unanimous SECOND choice of the interviewers and happens to be the only African- American currently employed by the district.   

They’ll likely come back and ask me to coach the freshman or 8th grade team.  I have half a mind to tell them to shove it.  I’ve been coaching the younger kids for 4 years now and this is the thanks I get?  

On a side note, being an asst. coach for HS football is going well.  We won our first 2 games handily and are prepping for our toughest opponent yet.  
 

 

[frank 2,145]

 

[DexterM1776 79]

Good ole racism.

[Gladiators 1,904]

Is it too late to change the box to African American?

[jonmx 1,589]

Just shut your white previledge ass up.  Steve Nash was already the token white guy hired and that waa too much.  

[nobody 2,040]

You had to interview with the varsity captain?

[vuduchile 1,941]

21 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Just shut your white previledge ass up.  Steve Nash was already the token white guy hired and that waa too much.  

I’ve been pondering an official response, but the potential fallout could be a problem.  My kids are in this school system for the next 6 years.   If it had been handled differently, I might not be as pissed.  Again. I was offered the job and accepted it.  Then, out of nowhere, it’s gone.  The only reason they switched gears is because they wanted to be diverse in their hiring.  
 

Ironically, I was part of the interview committee that recommended this guy be hired 2 years ago as the director of the after school program.  

[vuduchile 1,941]

6 minutes ago, nobody said:

You had to interview with the varsity captain?

Yeah. It was panel interview and he was on the panel. 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,646]

And this happens with real jobs, now more than ever. . Welcome to the post George Floyd America. 

[BiffTannen 651]

Reminds me of when the opposing defense falls down on purpose and lets the retarded kid score a touchdown at the end of a game that has already been decided. 

[edjr 5,564]

18 minutes ago, BiffTannen said:

Reminds me of when the opposing defense falls down on purpose and lets the retarded kid score a touchdown at the end of a game that has already been decided. 

That was shonuff's happiest moment in life.

[BiffTannen 651]

21 minutes ago, edjr said:

That was shonuff's happiest moment in life.

In the case of that focktard, he ran the wrong way and they had to convince him the safety was a good thing. 

[avoiding injuries 1,220]

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

And this happens with real jobs, now more than ever. . Welcome to the post George Floyd America. 

I believe it started with the “Beer Summit”. 

[peenie 1,690]

I'm really sorry and that is unfair that he was chosen over you because of his color. I'm sure he wouldn't even want the job knowing that was the case. It's amazing that he's the only black person hired by the district. So, luckily for the other whites working there, it's not going to be a trend. You all are safe from the hoard of minorities coming to steal away your jobs. Stand by and stand back.

[Thornton Melon 544]

4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

And this happens with real jobs, now more than ever. . Welcome to the post George Floyd America. 

My company has come out with official communications stating that our goal is to increase our minority representation at VP level and above from 20% to 33%, and women's representation will be 48%, within 5 years.

There are also goals to increase women and minority representation at all levels, along with a bunch of other race and gender based goals and expectations too numerous to mention.

All this means is that white males will be laid off, passed by for promotions, and simply not offered employment at my company. 

[listen2me 23 1,542]

25 minutes ago, peenie said:

I'm really sorry and that is unfair that he was chosen over you because of his color. I'm sure he wouldn't even want the job knowing that was the case. It's amazing that he's the only black person hired by the district. So, luckily for the other whites working there, it's not going to be a trend. You all are safe from the hoard of minorities coming to steal away your jobs. Stand by and stand back.

How is it amazing? Some communities have very few black people.  Some have none.  

Youre out of touch.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

21 minutes ago, Thornton Melon said:

My company has come out with official communications stating that our goal is to increase our minority representation at VP level and above from 20% to 33%, and women's representation will be 48%, within 5 years.

There are also goals to increase women and minority representation at all levels, along with a bunch of other race and gender based goals and expectations too numerous to mention.

All this means is that white males will be laid off, passed by for promotions, and simply not offered employment at my company. 

Your company is done for.  How can you have a leadership structure and practice socialism at the same time.  Answer.  You can't.

[Thornton Melon 544]

32 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Your company is done for.  How can you have a leadership structure and practice socialism at the same time.  Answer.  You can't.

You may be right. Although, my company is a major global company with ~90,000 employees worldwide, so it may take some time. As long as they keep me for 6 more years (when I plan to retire), I'm good.

[Cloaca du jour 2,064]

Ellen Degenerate has a new segment that spotlights minority owned business.  She is so woke!!

[peenie 1,690]

44 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

How is it amazing? Some communities have very few black people.  Some have none.  

Youre out of touch.

Then what is the purpose of this thread??? There is no need for having a diverse district because there are no diverse people living there. Could it be (shocker) that his race was insignificant? The community isn't diverse, therefore no need for pushing diversity in hiring.

Which is why I wrote that everyone else's job is safe, there are no other less deserving black people to take away jobs from deserving whites. (<that's sarcasm.)

[Thornton Melon 544]

11 hours ago, vuduchile said:

I’ve been pondering an official response, but the potential fallout could be a problem.  My kids are in this school system for the next 6 years.   If it had been handled differently, I might not be as pissed.  Again. I was offered the job and accepted it.  Then, out of nowhere, it’s gone.  The only reason they switched gears is because they wanted to be diverse in their hiring.  
 

Ironically, I was part of the interview committee that recommended this guy be hired 2 years ago as the director of the after school program.  

You should take the freshmen coaching job, if you like coaching. You won't win with an official response. Word will get out how it all went down. 

[listen2me 23 1,542]

6 minutes ago, peenie said:

Then what is the purpose of this thread??? There is no need for having a diverse district because there are no diverse people living there. Could it be (shocker) that his race was insignificant? The community isn't diverse, therefore no need for pushing diversity in hiring.

Which is why I wrote that everyone else's job is safe, there are no other less deserving black people to take away jobs from deserving whites. (<that's sarcasm.)

He said in his post that he was given the job then had it taken away because they wanted to diversify.  I mean you can tell his story for him but for the sake of the thread Im going by what he said.

Maybe he lives in a neighborhood with many blacks.  We both do not have that info.

Im just saying it isnt amazing to hear that he is the only black teacher in the school without context.

[peenie 1,690]

If he's the only black person in a diversified community then it is amazing that he's the only black person that has been hired thus far.

If it's an all white community then this thread is pointless.

[vuduchile 1,941]

50 minutes ago, peenie said:

If he's the only black person in a diversified community then it is amazing that he's the only black person that has been hired thus far.

If it's an all white community then this thread is pointless.

The point of the thread is this:

I was offered the job and accepted it. Then, upon further review, they decided to give the job to someone else.  That someone else happens to be black.  To me, this looks like a diversity hiring.  

 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,646]

No worries. Rich kids with connections will still be ok. It’s the rest of our kids that will be passed over. 

[nobody 2,040]

What I don't get is if the school district has employed exactly one black guy, there is one of two things happening.  1. You either don't have very many black people living around you in which case, why would they care about making sure the 1 black guy in the whole district is hooked up or 2. There is a lot of black people in the area and your school district has probably been excluding black people for some reason or else the employee base would reflect the demographics of the area.

 

[Djgb13 2,338]

Been saying this for years and I think people are finally starting to realize it. White people, especially white men, are being passed over for people of other races or gender that have either less qualifications or the same. Race and gender play a MAJOR role in the hiring and the acceptance into schools/programs. It’s not racist though unless it’s a white person being given priority. 
 

Sucks bro. If it was something you REALLY wanted to do I’d have a civil discussion with them on why they decided to rescind the offer after you accepted. If it was something you didn’t really care too much about I’d just let it go since your kids are gonna be there for a while. 

[Strike 3,975]

1 hour ago, Thornton Melon said:

You may be right. Although, my company is a major global company with ~90,000 employees worldwide, so it may take some time. As long as they keep me for 6 more years (when I plan to retire), I'm good.

Man, you and I are of the same mindset.   Although I may not even make it that long. 

[vuduchile 1,941]

2 hours ago, peenie said:

I'm really sorry and that is unfair that he was chosen over you because of his color. I'm sure he wouldn't even want the job knowing that was the case. It's amazing that he's the only black person hired by the district. So, luckily for the other whites working there, it's not going to be a trend. You all are safe from the hoard of minorities coming to steal away your jobs. Stand by and stand back.

How can you be sure he wouldn’t want the job knowing that was the case?  You don’t the guy or anything about him beyond what I’ve told you. 
 

How do you know he didn’t complain to the superintendent or someone on the committee about not getting the job initially?  
 

How do you know he didn’t threaten to sue for discrimination when he was told he wasn’t getting it?  Maybe that caused the committee to do an about face?   
 

I don’t even know the answers to these questions, so there’s no way you could.  
 

 

[The Elevator Killer 497]

3 hours ago, peenie said:

I'm really sorry and that is unfair that he was chosen over you because of his color. I'm sure he wouldn't even want the job knowing that was the case. It's amazing that he's the only black person hired by the district. So, luckily for the other whites working there, it's not going to be a trend. You all are safe from the hoard of minorities coming to steal away your jobs. Stand by and stand back.

I see what you did there. 

[peenie 1,690]

9 minutes ago, The Elevator Killer said:

I see what you did there. 

Actually, most of the time, I'm just f-king with y'all. I'm just arguing to be arguing.

It's really easy to troll everyone here.

[vuduchile 1,941]

1 hour ago, nobody said:

What I don't get is if the school district has employed exactly one black guy, there is one of two things happening.  1. You either don't have very many black people living around you in which case, why would they care about making sure the 1 black guy in the whole district is hooked up or 2. There is a lot of black people in the area and your school district has probably been excluding black people for some reason or else the employee base would reflect the demographics of the area.

 

This is a resort town with around 4000 year round residents.  There are a few various minority families around, but not many.  
 

This guy actually lives almost an hour away in another state.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,117]

17 hours ago, vuduchile said:

I interviewed for and was offered the JV basketball coaching gig back in Aug.   I was told by the head coach and the AD that I was the unanimous choice of the 4 interviewers.  (Varsity HC, HS Principal, AD, and Varsity Captain).  
 

I accepted the job, and the AD told me he’d have more details about the season, practice times, etc when we got more guidance from the MHSAA.  The varsity coach and I have been regularly communicating about goals, strategy, etc.  
 

Yesterday, the AD stopped by my shop to tell me the JV hoops gig is a no-go now.  
 

Apparently, the Superintendent and his hiring committee decided to change directions and give the job to the guy who has been running the after school elementary program for the past year.  
 

He was the unanimous SECOND choice of the interviewers and happens to be the only African- American currently employed by the district.   

They’ll likely come back and ask me to coach the freshman or 8th grade team.  I have half a mind to tell them to shove it.  I’ve been coaching the younger kids for 4 years now and this is the thanks I get?  

On a side note, being an asst. coach for HS football is going well.  We won our first 2 games handily and are prepping for our toughest opponent yet.  
 

 

Something similar to this happened in my nephews little league last year.  My nephew (11), played in the U12 league... but in the U15 league they had a situation kind of like this.  They had 8 teams in their league.  The had the coaches, the tryouts, and the draft.  Everything was set to go... but then, a father of one of the kids, who was Hispanic, went to the Little League and said that he was willing to help coach his son's team if there was a need.

Now, no one ever turns down help, so the coach called him and told him when the first practice will be and that he'd for him to show up 30 minutes prior to get all of the coaches acclimated and on the same page.  Then went down without a hitch.  They had the meeting and then practice followed.  On the team was 9 white kids, 2 black kid, and 3 Hispanic kids.  Two days later, the Little League called the coach and told him that the Hispanic Coach will be named the teams head coach... because that coach felt that the Hispanic kids would feel left out with their white coach.  Obviously that didn't sit well with the coach.  He took the high road though and stayed the course.

After 3 weeks of practice and 1 week before the season... at least 6 of the white kids' parents and both black kids' parents complained to the league about the Hispanic coach being a really bad coach and not really knowing much about the game.   The league backed up the coach and said he was to stay as the lead coach.  The team played their first game and lost 34-5.  The next day, the parents of the 2 black kids and most of the parents of the white kids called the league and said their child is quitting and they want their league fees ($150), refunded (which was promised if kids did not play at least 3 games).  The league called their bluff and by the time the day the before the second game came around, all 11 non-Hispanic kids, quit the team.  All of them filed the forms for their refund.

The league went on with 7 teams.  Here's the best part.  Of the 14 kids from that team, 13 got spread out over the 7 remaining teams (they had a draft).  The one who didn't, was the kid of the Hispanic coach who everyone quit on.  The 1 team who got only 1 player said that he wasn't going to take the last kid because he doesn't want the same thing to happen to his team.  Well, the Little League wouldn't have any of that... they doubled down and forced that team to take the kid and told the current coach (who was the coach who's team won 34-5), was forced to take a back seat to the Hispanic coach.  Want to guess what happened next?

You probably guessed it.  Every kid on that team, their parents called the league and told them that their kid was quitting and wanted their league fee back.  This is the short version, but I'll make it shorter, because there's more to the story, but the end result was that the league went back to their 8 teams originally (missed 3 weeks of games), and the Hispanic guy didn't coach and his kid didn't play.