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On 11/6/2021 at 8:47 PM, Sean Mooney said:

CRT is not taught in a K-12 curriculum.

History should be taught but because so many people equate "race" with "CRT" that leads to people trying to get teachers to teach the Civil War without mentioning slavery.

CRT does not argue that all white people are oppressors and does not argue that all black people are oppressed. It posits that people are not racist. Social institutions are laced with racism that has been embedded over years of regulations. For example, redlining happened in the wake of WWII as American tried to establish the American Dream and the home in the suburbs for families. The housing systems were stacked against black people at the time and it led to decades of policies that hurt black people and black neighborhoods financially. CRT scholars would argue that the way the suburbs were developed had racial undertones and created a biased system but people who live in the suburbs today are not automatically racist because of it. Furthermore, the theory would say a white person today can't do anything about what happened in the past, but we can do something about what is happening in the present and the future. So basically- CRT actually argues that people as individuals are not racist. And if someone tells you they are it is either someone who doesn't understand what CRT actually is, or someone who is swinging wildly to overstep their bounds. 

So if it were taught in a 6th grade classroom (which it is not) the message would be "How do make sure stuff like happened in the past does not happen again."

This is such a ridiculous straw man.  Who the he11 is trying to get teachers to teach the Civil War "without mentioning slavery"?   It's literally the first thing that's mentioned and the most common topic within any discussion of that period of history.    I would actually make the case that the way we teach the civil war is too focused on slavery and makes it seem like the Civil War was fought only because of slavery and ignores the multitude of other issues that combined with slavery to lead to the Civil War.   If you don't even mention slavery, how can you even teach the history of the Civil War?   That's like saying you're going to teach the history of the American revolution without mentioning the British.   

"Redlining" - every time is brought up as an example for CRT.    Never mentioned that it was outlawed in 1963,  i.e. 60 yrs ago.    And if you go any deeper into the actual practice of redlining when it was happening you'll find that it impacted people on the basis of economic status more than racial.    There were a  whole bunch of poor whiteys who got shafted by redlining, way more than AA's and roughly in line with percentage of the population they each represent.    There were areas of the country where redlining impacted racial groups more significantly, but again that was over 60 yrs ago.   

Note that anytime someone has to identify examples of CRT - it's always stuff from the 40's & 50's.    CRT is useless because it tries to address issues that are long dead.     No one cares about what color you are.    If you are going to be in my foxhole or in my neighborhood, I only care about the quality of your character, nothing else matters.   

The part that the CRT types can't understand is that the rest of the country has evolved and PROGRESSED to the point where we not only see that all people are created equal, we also see that a$$holes come in all colors.    And if some a$$hole tries to deflect on an issue by throwing the "racism" card, we are not going to go run and hide because of that anymore.    That's dead too.    

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3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The Washington Post has reported that CRT is most definitely being taught in schools. Doh! 

Correct.  We know it has been, these parents are not lying and they actually captured it on their mobile devices as it was happening, which is why the local news started reporting it.

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1 hour ago, Masshole said:

This is such a ridiculous straw man. .   Who the he11 is trying to get teachers to teach the Civil War "without mentioning slavery"?   It's literally the first thing that's mentioned and the most common topic within any discussion of that period of history.    I would actually make the case that the way we teach the civil war is too focused on slavery and makes it seem like the Civil War was fought only because of slavery and ignores the multitude of other issues that combined with slavery to lead to the Civil War.   If you don't even mention slavery, how can you even teach the history of the Civil War?   That's like saying you're going to teach the history of the American revolution without mentioning the British.   

 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,772]

If you want to learn about slavery and humanize it just have the kids watch / read Roots. But wait, that was written by a black man who experienced Jim Crow and still made something of himself.  Best to let the rich white liberals tell us about it. 

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4 hours ago, Masshole said:

This is such a ridiculous straw man.  Who the he11 is trying to get teachers to teach the Civil War "without mentioning slavery"?   It's literally the first thing that's mentioned and the most common topic within any discussion of that period of history.    I would actually make the case that the way we teach the civil war is too focused on slavery and makes it seem like the Civil War was fought only because of slavery and ignores the multitude of other issues that combined with slavery to lead to the Civil War.   If you don't even mention slavery, how can you even teach the history of the Civil War?   That's like saying you're going to teach the history of the American revolution without mentioning the British.   

"Redlining" - every time is brought up as an example for CRT.    Never mentioned that it was outlawed in 1963,  i.e. 60 yrs ago.    And if you go any deeper into the actual practice of redlining when it was happening you'll find that it impacted people on the basis of economic status more than racial.    There were a  whole bunch of poor whiteys who got shafted by redlining, way more than AA's and roughly in line with percentage of the population they each represent.    There were areas of the country where redlining impacted racial groups more significantly, but again that was over 60 yrs ago.   

Note that anytime someone has to identify examples of CRT - it's always stuff from the 40's & 50's.    CRT is useless because it tries to address issues that are long dead.     No one cares about what color you are.    If you are going to be in my foxhole or in my neighborhood, I only care about the quality of your character, nothing else matters.   

The part that the CRT types can't understand is that the rest of the country has evolved and PROGRESSED to the point where we not only see that all people are created equal, we also see that a$$holes come in all colors.    And if some a$$hole tries to deflect on an issue by throwing the "racism" card, we are not going to go run and hide because of that anymore.    That's dead too.    

 

It isn't a strawman and you purposely ignored the first part of what I wrote. As I said- people conflate "racial issues" with "CRT" which is where they go wrong in trying to fight things. There are places that have tried to get slavery banned as a teaching moment. 

 

Redlining was outlawed in 1968- so you are wrong on that fact. Also, just because it was banned as a practice does not mean it immediately stopped what it was doing. Also, do you have sources that it affected economic status more than race? Do you have sources that indicate it was poor whiteys who got shafted "way more than AA's and roughly in line with percentage of the population they each represent".

Also, there are other examples. I picked a well known historical one. No more, no less. I also see you just ignored the context of what I said about CRT- stuff that is all factual BTW- so you could say racism is dead (I think that's what you were going for- to be honest your rant lost the thread a little.)

Should I chalk you up as someone who doesn't know what CRT is or someone who is wildly overstepping above their bounds?

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The  Washington post said that Democrats are lying about CRT. Why? 

[Sean Mooney 1,184]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

The  Washington post said that Democrats are lying about CRT. Why? 

In an opinion piece.

Do you not know what "opinion" means?

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2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

In an opinion piece.

Do you not know what "opinion" means?

Yes. But why would they print that? Just out of the blue, they didn’t do ANY research? And how do you know it’s not being taught anywhere? You say it isn’t, but how do you know? Is that even possible you do know?  How could you? 

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I really don't want Trump to run for President in 2024...

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31 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

In an opinion piece.

Do you not know what "opinion" means?

so the most liberal rag in the nation posts an article confirming it but you still dont think its happening anywhere at all

 

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18 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

so the most liberal rag in the nation posts an article confirming it but you still dont think its happening anywhere at all

 

Priceless.  

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yes. But why would they print that? Just out of the blue, they didn’t do ANY research? And how do you know it’s not being taught anywhere? You say it isn’t, but how do you know? Is that even possible you do know?  How could you? 

 

32 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

so the most liberal rag in the nation posts an article confirming it but you still dont think its happening anywhere at all

 

Guys- again- it's an opinion piece. It's not based in true fact but more in a skewing of what is out there and super subjective.

THe Washington Post does something like that for the same reason FOX News trots out a liberal voice here and there or MSNBC runs out a conservative voice. They are trying to appear "fair" The article was written by a guy who is a known conservative and was a speechwriter for George W. and Rumsfeld. He is biased.

And I know it is not happening in public school curriculum because I've been in on curricular discussions and study with schools from multiple states and multiple districts. It isn't anywhere. The one place you can find it in K-12 is in private schools and there ain't a damn thing anyone can do about that because those schools are not bound by state standards anywhere and parents pay for the privilege to send kids there. 

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Just now, Sean Mooney said:

 

Guys- again- it's an opinion piece. It's not based in true fact but more in a skewing of what is out there and super subjective.

THe Washington Post does something like that for the same reason FOX News trots out a liberal voice here and there or MSNBC runs out a conservative voice. They are trying to appear "fair" The article was written by a guy who is a known conservative and was a speechwriter for George W. and Rumsfeld. He is biased.

And I know it is not happening in public school curriculum because I've been in on curricular discussions and study with schools from multiple states and multiple districts. It isn't anywhere. The one place you can find it in K-12 is in private schools and there ain't a damn thing anyone can do about that because those schools are not bound by state standards anywhere and parents pay for the privilege to send kids there. 

K sure guy

so all these parents must be lying, these kids that are divided as oppressed vs oppressor isn't happening

god damn even Bill Maher is admitting it

 

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6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

Guys- again- it's an opinion piece. It's not based in true fact but more in a skewing of what is out there and super subjective.

THe Washington Post does something like that for the same reason FOX News trots out a liberal voice here and there or MSNBC runs out a conservative voice. They are trying to appear "fair" The article was written by a guy who is a known conservative and was a speechwriter for George W. and Rumsfeld. He is biased.

And I know it is not happening in public school curriculum because I've been in on curricular discussions and study with schools from multiple states and multiple districts. It isn't anywhere. The one place you can find it in K-12 is in private schools and there ain't a damn thing anyone can do about that because those schools are not bound by state standards anywhere and parents pay for the privilege to send kids there. 

It’s not in  Virginia? Or any of the northwest states? Were  you in in them too? An administrator in Indiana said it was. What states were you in on? This is just like the SQF argument in policing. Technically it wasn’t happening, as defined by the letter of the law. But it was.  Not everywhere, but enough places that the point was valid that cops were going out of the scope allotted to them by law (curriculum) to conduct stops. On paper , no. In reality, yes. But even so, places do have CRT or it’s brethren in the curriculum. 

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Mooney is doing the semantics game dance. He's factually right, but morally wrong to quote the great AOC. Actual "lead pipe lock graduate level CRT" isn't taught in elementary schools.  That's one thing that we've gotten wrong in this whole thing.  We mis-branded it as CRT.  With that being said...the "walls" that hold up the roof of the chapel of CRT are absolutely being taught.  The left was smart in basically branding it as "equity" "SEL" and "anti-racism".  I mean, who doesn't want to be anti-racist? Any curriculum that teaches students to be activists, is woefully the wrong path. The race thing is a red herring anyway.  It's really a push for socialism.  Is it a surprise that BLM and Marxism go hand in hand?

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2 hours ago, posty said:

I really don't want Trump to run for President in 2024...

polls show the public wants him though.  He's got the best numbers of any 2024 candidate.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Honestly I haven't paid attention to this Sean Mooney person but wow he is crazy lol.  He really thinks CRT is not being taught?

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2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

It isn't a strawman and you purposely ignored the first part of what I wrote. As I said- people conflate "racial issues" with "CRT" which is where they go wrong in trying to fight things. There are places that have tried to get slavery banned as a teaching moment. 

 

Redlining was outlawed in 1968- so you are wrong on that fact. Also, just because it was banned as a practice does not mean it immediately stopped what it was doing. Also, do you have sources that it affected economic status more than race? Do you have sources that indicate it was poor whiteys who got shafted "way more than AA's and roughly in line with percentage of the population they each represent".

Also, there are other examples. I picked a well known historical one. No more, no less. I also see you just ignored the context of what I said about CRT- stuff that is all factual BTW- so you could say racism is dead (I think that's what you were going for- to be honest your rant lost the thread a little.)

Should I chalk you up as someone who doesn't know what CRT is or someone who is wildly overstepping above their bounds?

Let’s see if I can stop the 50+ pages of semantic vomit I tried to read over at FBG.  I can’t speak for everyone but I will concede that “CRT” is being used by the right to mean more than just the technical definition of an obscure graduate-level curriculum.  We don’t teach advanced calculus to children, but we teach algebra and geometry as building blocks.  Similarly, what is going on in a lot of places including many schools is laying the groundwork for future radical and IMO insipidity evil indoctrination into the cult of anti-racism.  Anything which leads white kids to believe they are guilty for the actions of their forefathers, or that black kids are hopeless to fight the system, or that words like “appropriation” are bad, falls under this category.

Hopefully you’ll excuse this liberty with CRT, but since your side co-opted obscure words like man, woman, male, female to the point where supposedly intelligent people use phrases like “birthing person” or “person without a peemus”, and we can’t even have a productive discussion on the biology of human sexuality or evolutionary (aka, real) differences between the two, I’m sure you’ll understand.   

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7 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

polls show the public wants him though.  He's got the best numbers of any 2024 candidate.

Yeah I know and I liked what he did and attempted to do for this country, I am just not a fan of him personally...  Plus he is too old...  There has to be some younger blood out there somewhere on both sides to run for POTUS that actually cares about this country...

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6 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

Honestly I haven't paid attention to this Sean Mooney person but wow he is crazy lol.  He really thinks CRT is not being taught?

Public school teacher. The profession that is failing our country and students more than any other.  

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23 minutes ago, posty said:

Yeah I know and I liked what he did and attempted to do for this country, I am just not a fan of him personally...  Plus he is too old...  There has to be some younger blood out there somewhere on both sides to run for POTUS that actually cares about this country...

Give me Trump 2024 and Desantis 2028

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1 hour ago, posty said:

Yeah I know and I liked what he did and attempted to do for this country, I am just not a fan of him personally...  Plus he is too old...  There has to be some younger blood out there somewhere on both sides to run for POTUS that actually cares about this country...

4 more years of Trump followed by 8 years of DeSantis.

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22 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

Doesn't sound as consistent but was happening at the UFC event last Saturday as well.   In NYC no less.

As the show got more interesting down the stretch, PAC vs Dax banger of a match, and the Kenny Omega and Hangman Adam Page segment, the chants died down.

Still, I could hear them for chunks of time, and I'll rewatch the show for further research, so it's encouraging. But it's Indiana, so it's not exactly a place where Biden is liked. And I don't expect wraslling fans are Biden folks.

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5 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

K sure guy

so all these parents must be lying, these kids that are divided as oppressed vs oppressor isn't happening

god damn even Bill Maher is admitting it

 

Not lying- but being lied to and believing it. 

5 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s not in  Virginia? Or any of the northwest states? Were  you in in them too? An administrator in Indiana said it was. What states were you in on? This is just like the SQF argument in policing. Technically it wasn’t happening, as defined by the letter of the law. But it was.  Not everywhere, but enough places that the point was valid that cops were going out of the scope allotted to them by law (curriculum) to conduct stops. On paper , no. In reality, yes. But even so, places do have CRT or it’s brethren in the curriculum. 

No. No. Yes. The entire mid-atlantic region of states. Every state between, and including, Texas and Florida save for Mississippi, California, Hawaii, the Dakotas, Montana, Washington, Oregon,  Rhode Island, The Great Lake States as well.

What is CRT's brethren? CRT is a theory- it either exists or it doesn't. You can't really teach part of a theory or it ceases to be a theory of any value- positive or negative. And again - the only places they have seen CRT are in private prep schools. Schools that don't take public dollars, are not held to standards, and can do whatever they want. Also, schools that will never change. 

4 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

Honestly I haven't paid attention to this Sean Mooney person but wow he is crazy lol.  He really thinks CRT is not being taught?

It's not. It's crazy so many people believe the lies being fed to them. But I can't be too upset at you because you at least appear to be a Chargers fan. 

4 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Let’s see if I can stop the 50+ pages of semantic vomit I tried to read over at FBG.  I can’t speak for everyone but I will concede that “CRT” is being used by the right to mean more than just the technical definition of an obscure graduate-level curriculum.  We don’t teach advanced calculus to children, but we teach algebra and geometry as building blocks.  Similarly, what is going on in a lot of places including many schools is laying the groundwork for future radical and IMO insipidity evil indoctrination into the cult of anti-racism.  Anything which leads white kids to believe they are guilty for the actions of their forefathers, or that black kids are hopeless to fight the system, or that words like “appropriation” are bad, falls under this category.

Hopefully you’ll excuse this liberty with CRT, but since your side co-opted obscure words like man, woman, male, female to the point where supposedly intelligent people use phrases like “birthing person” or “person without a peemus”, and we can’t even have a productive discussion on the biology of human sexuality or evolutionary (aka, real) differences between the two, I’m sure you’ll understand.   

I will point out again- this is NOT what CRT believes. Critical Race Theorists would argue people are not racist. Systems and institutions are. White people can not do anything about what happened in the past- all we can do is prevent it from happening in the future. And if someone does something racist it is because of environment and not true racism inside of them. This is where people who believe CRT exists in curriculum err. It is also where the over woke dopes go way overboard in their push. 

4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Public school teacher. The profession that is failing our country and students more than any other.  

Is that all because of teachers in your mind? What other professions would benefit students? 

[Sean Mooney 1,184]

DeSantis has a better chance of winning in 2024 as opposed to Trump.

Either way- the front runner this far out is seldom the front runner when the time comes. Also, fairly certain Trump doesn't want to run a second time. He is fine keeping his name and brand out there without the hassle of being President. People will continue to think he is some mythical hero and he avoids deeper public scrutiny. 

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7 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Not lying- but being lied to and believing it. 

No. No. Yes. The entire mid-atlantic region of states. Every state between, and including, Texas and Florida save for Mississippi, California, Hawaii, the Dakotas, Montana, Washington, Oregon,  Rhode Island, The Great Lake States as well.

What is CRT's brethren? CRT is a theory- it either exists or it doesn't. You can't really teach part of a theory or it ceases to be a theory of any value- positive or negative. And again - the only places they have seen CRT are in private prep schools. Schools that don't take public dollars, are not held to standards, and can do whatever they want. Also, schools that will never change. 

It's not. It's crazy so many people believe the lies being fed to them. But I can't be too upset at you because you at least appear to be a Chargers fan. 

I will point out again- this is NOT what CRT believes. Critical Race Theorists would argue people are not racist. Systems and institutions are. White people can not do anything about what happened in the past- all we can do is prevent it from happening in the future. And if someone does something racist it is because of environment and not true racism inside of them. This is where people who believe CRT exists in curriculum err. It is also where the over woke dopes go way overboard in their push. 

Is that all because of teachers in your mind? What other professions would benefit students? 

ahh yes, 6 year olds are coming home and telling their parents how evil they are. Those little liars

 

 

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31 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

ahh yes, 6 year olds are coming home and telling their parents how evil they are. Those little liars

 

 

Parents are lying not the kids. 

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35 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Not lying- but being lied to and believing it. 

No. No. Yes. The entire mid-atlantic region of states. Every state between, and including, Texas and Florida save for Mississippi, California, Hawaii, the Dakotas, Montana, Washington, Oregon,  Rhode Island, The Great Lake States as well.

What is CRT's brethren? CRT is a theory- it either exists or it doesn't. You can't really teach part of a theory or it ceases to be a theory of any value- positive or negative. And again - the only places they have seen CRT are in private prep schools. Schools that don't take public dollars, are not held to standards, and can do whatever they want. Also, schools that will never change. 

It's not. It's crazy so many people believe the lies being fed to them. But I can't be too upset at you because you at least appear to be a Chargers fan. 

I will point out again- this is NOT what CRT believes. Critical Race Theorists would argue people are not racist. Systems and institutions are. White people can not do anything about what happened in the past- all we can do is prevent it from happening in the future. And if someone does something racist it is because of environment and not true racism inside of them. This is where people who believe CRT exists in curriculum err. It is also where the over woke dopes go way overboard in their push. 

Is that all because of teachers in your mind? What other professions would benefit students? 

Mostly because of teachers and their union. They have the most say, why wouldn’t they have the most responsibility? Not all, but most.  School boards have been shown to be in lock step with teachers. Teachers are even on some school boards. And the administrators are in lock step with the union as well.  And you can teach CRT if you call it something else.  Pepsi/ Coke. Still Cola.  

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1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

I will point out again- this is NOT what CRT believes. Critical Race Theorists would argue people are not racist. Systems and institutions are. White people can not do anything about what happened in the past- all we can do is prevent it from happening in the future. And if someone does something racist it is because of environment and not true racism inside of them. This is where people who believe CRT exists in curriculum err. It is also where the over woke dopes go way overboard in their push. 

 

Serious question:  did you read more than the sentence you bolded?  Because it didn’t seem so.   

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3 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Not lying- but being lied to and believing it. 

No. No. Yes. The entire mid-atlantic region of states. Every state between, and including, Texas and Florida save for Mississippi, California, Hawaii, the Dakotas, Montana, Washington, Oregon,  Rhode Island, The Great Lake States as well.

What is CRT's brethren? CRT is a theory- it either exists or it doesn't. You can't really teach part of a theory or it ceases to be a theory of any value- positive or negative. And again - the only places they have seen CRT are in private prep schools. Schools that don't take public dollars, are not held to standards, and can do whatever they want. Also, schools that will never change. 

It's not. It's crazy so many people believe the lies being fed to them. But I can't be too upset at you because you at least appear to be a Chargers fan. 

I will point out again- this is NOT what CRT believes. Critical Race Theorists would argue people are not racist. Systems and institutions are. White people can not do anything about what happened in the past- all we can do is prevent it from happening in the future. And if someone does something racist it is because of environment and not true racism inside of them. This is where people who believe CRT exists in curriculum err. It is also where the over woke dopes go way overboard in their push. 

Is that all because of teachers in your mind? What other professions would benefit students? 

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ROFL the media is now trying desperately to get “thank you brandon” chants going.  
 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lets-brandon-secretly-insults-president-022325307.html

[Utilit99 4,099]

We should start calling him nagger and see if they follow along.

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8 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Mostly because of teachers and their union. They have the most say, why wouldn’t they have the most responsibility? Not all, but most.  School boards have been shown to be in lock step with teachers. Teachers are even on some school boards. And the administrators are in lock step with the union as well.  And you can teach CRT if you call it something else.  Pepsi/ Coke. Still Cola.  

You think administrators and the school boards are lock step with teacher's unions. 

8 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Serious question:  did you read more than the sentence you bolded?  Because it didn’t seem so.   

Yes I did- it featured logical fallacies, a misrepresentation of what CRT says about white people and black people, and you saying "My side" which is completely inaccurate because I think some of the stuff you said that I agree with is super ridiculous. Just because a small group of people say "birthing person" does not mean everyone agrees with it. The only thing that you said that was remotely accurate was  "I will concede that “CRT” is being used by the right to mean more than just the technical definition of an obscure graduate-level curriculum." You should've stopped there. 

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11 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You think administrators and the school boards are lock step with teacher's unions. 

Yes I did- it featured logical fallacies, a misrepresentation of what CRT says about white people and black people, and you saying "My side" which is completely inaccurate because I think some of the stuff you said that I agree with is super ridiculous. Just because a small group of people say "birthing person" does not mean everyone agrees with it. The only thing that you said that was remotely accurate was  "I will concede that “CRT” is being used by the right to mean more than just the technical definition of an obscure graduate-level curriculum." You should've stopped there. 

ghey

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1 hour ago, Utilit99 said:

ghey

Never forget utilit99's dumb logic:

 

"I'm not homophobic. I just really dislike those people. DURR!!!!"

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4 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

You think administrators and the school boards are lock step with teacher's unions. 

Yes I did- it featured logical fallacies, a misrepresentation of what CRT says about white people and black people, and you saying "My side" which is completely inaccurate because I think some of the stuff you said that I agree with is super ridiculous. Just because a small group of people say "birthing person" does not mean everyone agrees with it. The only thing that you said that was remotely accurate was  "I will concede that “CRT” is being used by the right to mean more than just the technical definition of an obscure graduate-level curriculum." You should've stopped there. 

I didn’t misrepresent what CRT says, that’s why I question your reading comprehension.  I’m telling you what normal people object to, which is the body blows being given to their children to soften them up for the future knockout of more advanced hate-filled training.  I specifically said that it is not CRT in the technical sense but you keep telling me that this amp goes to 11.  You can try to get past the typical liberal reaction to try to educate me yet again on what is in CRT, but I don’t hold out much hope.

Regarding small groups of people using “birthing person,” would that include the President of the United States and the OMB?

https://www.yahoo.com/now/biden-budget-proposal-replaces-mother-213406794.html

 

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2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Never forget utilit99's dumb logic:

 

"I'm not homophobic. I just really dislike those people. DURR!!!!"

Seems like I'm impacting your thinking.

And what is "durrr"?

[Hardcore troubadour 12,772]

4 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

You think administrators and the school boards are lock step with teacher's unions. 

Yes I did- it featured logical fallacies, a misrepresentation of what CRT says about white people and black people, and you saying "My side" which is completely inaccurate because I think some of the stuff you said that I agree with is super ridiculous. Just because a small group of people say "birthing person" does not mean everyone agrees with it. The only thing that you said that was remotely accurate was  "I will concede that “CRT” is being used by the right to mean more than just the technical definition of an obscure graduate-level curriculum." You should've stopped there. 

Jann Michael Greenburgh, president of the Scottsdale Arizona school board, Look him up and get back to us. Bet you won’t  

 

 

[Sean Mooney 1,184]

27 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I didn’t misrepresent what CRT says, that’s why I question your reading comprehension.  I’m telling you what normal people object to, which is the body blows being given to their children to soften them up for the future knockout of more advanced hate-filled training.  I specifically said that it is not CRT in the technical sense but you keep telling me that this amp goes to 11.  You can try to get past the typical liberal reaction to try to educate me yet again on what is in CRT, but I don’t hold out much hope.

Regarding small groups of people using “birthing person,” would that include the President of the United States and the OMB?

https://www.yahoo.com/now/biden-budget-proposal-replaces-mother-213406794.html

 

It has nothing to do with my reading comprehension. It has everything to do with you continually misrepresenting what CRT is. Body blows to children to soften them up for something that once again- CRT IS NOT!

 

Not my fault if you'd rather listen to whatever pundit tells you it exists and bury your head in the sand. Honestly, I expect it because this is why these issues linger over and over. 

24 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Jann Michael Greenburgh, president of the Scottsdale Arizona school board, Look him up and get back to us. Bet you won’t  

 

 

 

So a union president allegedly did something stupid about parents he felt were threatening him and that means he supports CRT? Supports all teachers? Like what are you even arguing at this point.