edjr 6,008 Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, Gladiators said: I can dislike the President but root for the country. I hated Clay Matthews and Mike McCarthy, but still cheered for the Packers. That's a good way of putting it. Rooting for the president to fail, is like rooting for someone to get injured. Dumb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,666 Posted December 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: When Kamala doesn't get elected in 2024, I wonder if Democrats will say the same thing when a Republican is back in office? I'm guessing "No". Im not sure. But the ones here will scurry like cockroaches back into their crevices like they did before. Front runners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,763 Posted December 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, edjr said: That's a good way of putting it. Rooting for the president to fail, is like rooting for someone to get injured. Dumb Agree. I hope that conservatives host fast to being the adults in this situation, but would also understand if they marched in the streets screaming "not my president" etc. The Republicans would be within their rights to investigate and impeach the guy, but wasting time and money like the Dems would not be suitable. I hope they manage to not fall into the trap of being a despicable POS playing the people....like the Dems 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted December 15, 2020 I think he will be a fairly moderate 1 term president. From what little I have read he was the agreeable one in the Obama administration. I think he may be able to get budgets approved and keep the basics of the government running for 4 years. I do not expect anything major from him on social issues, guns rights, global warming, etc. In my opinion we are due for a global recession, it has been over a decade since the last downturn and we are due. I think this will kill his reelection chance and that we will see a Republican president 4 years from now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted December 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, edjr said: Isn't this all that matters? America is too full of hatred and wanting to see someone do badly. makes no focking sense. This. We all have to live here and we know over the next 40 years there will probably be a republican president for ~20 of those years and a democrat president for ~20 of those years. You shouldn't root for the people to fail when your guy is not in office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,008 Posted December 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: I think he will be a fairly moderate 1 term president. From what little I have read he was the agreeable one in the Obama administration. I think he may be able to get budgets approved and keep the basics of the government running for 4 years. I do not expect anything major from him on social issues, guns rights, global warming, etc. In my opinion we are due for a global recession, it has been over a decade since the last downturn and we are due. I think this will kill his reelection chance and that we will see a Republican president 4 years from now. Is it even feasible to imagine an 82 top 86 year old president? that is insane. I remember when both my grandparents turned 80, they started to decline mentally. At 75 they were fine, around 80, they just lost it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,150 Posted December 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, edjr said: That's a good way of putting it. Rooting for the president to fail, is like rooting for someone to get injured. Dumb This is a mindset I don't understand, from both sides. I have friends that root for some entire systems in our country to fail (big banks, current healthcare, technology)...but why? How is them failing going to help anyone? The hatred and anger is always misplaced, IMO. Hate Trump. Hate Biden. Whatever. But wanting them to fail doesn't mean what people think it means...IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, TheNewGirl said: This is a mindset I don't understand, from both sides. I have friends that root for some entire systems in our country to fail (big banks, current healthcare, technology)...but why? How is them failing going to help anyone? The hatred and anger is always misplaced, IMO. Hate Trump. Hate Biden. Whatever. But wanting them to fail doesn't mean what people think it means...IMO. I only want them to fail in their pushing of big government and socialism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,008 Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: This is a mindset I don't understand, from both sides. I have friends that root for some entire systems in our country to fail (big banks, current healthcare, technology)...but why? How is them failing going to help anyone? The hatred and anger is always misplaced, IMO. Hate Trump. Hate Biden. Whatever. But wanting them to fail doesn't mean what people think it means...IMO. I think some people, no matter what happens are screwed. Their lives are nothing, they have nothing better to do than hate. I don't use twitter and I never have, but I have seen and heard plenty of tweets. The cesspool of society. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jetdoc 20 Posted December 15, 2020 I believe Biden will wind up being one of the greatest presidents of all time. He will lead us through the conquering of one of the worst pandemics that America has faced. He will be known for saving the Earth from climate change through the changes he enacts over the next four years. He will heal many of the cultural divides in the country and bring equality to all, regardless of sex, race, nationality or sexual orientation. And he will accomplish all of this in just four years, ready to hand the baton to Kamala Harris for another eight years. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted December 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jetdoc said: I believe Biden will wind up being one of the greatest presidents of all time. He will lead us through the conquering of one of the worst pandemics that America has faced. He will be known for saving the Earth from climate change through the changes he enacts over the next four years. He will heal many of the cultural divides in the country and bring equality to all, regardless of sex, race, nationality or sexual orientation. And he will accomplish all of this in just four years, ready to hand the baton to Kamala Harris for another eight years. I believe you could get lost in a paper bag, also you have too many chromosomes and watch MSNBC 24/7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,066 Posted December 15, 2020 35 minutes ago, edjr said: I think some people, no matter what happens are screwed. Their lives are nothing, they have nothing better to do than hate. I don't use twitter and I never have, but I have seen and heard plenty of tweets. The cesspool of society. This place isn't any better than Twitter. The same stupid crap that gets spewed on Twitter gets posted here. This place is just as filled with hate as any other social media site. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 1,878 Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: This place isn't any better than Twitter. The same stupid crap that gets spewed on Twitter gets posted here. This place is just as filled with hate as any other social media site. When I’m feeling depressed I always come here. Nothing cheers you up faster than seeing just how focked up some of these people are. Also, I predict Biden will win the Nobel Peace Prize just for not being Trump. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,066 Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, OldMaid said: When I’m feeling depressed I always come here. Nothing cheers you up faster than seeing just how focked up some of these people are. Also, I predict Biden will win the Nobel Peace Prize just for not being Trump. It can certainly be reassuring. There is always something interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted December 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: This place isn't any better than Twitter. The same stupid crap that gets spewed on Twitter gets posted here. This place is just as filled with hate as any other social media site. Anywhere that edjr posts is the real cesspool of society. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted December 15, 2020 Jetdoc is gonna be pissed when Biden forgets where he's going and walks right into the jet engine of Air Force 1, spewing his remnants across the tarmac. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, OldMaid said: When I’m feeling depressed I always come here. Nothing cheers you up faster than seeing just how focked up some of these people are. Also, I predict Biden will win the Nobel Peace Prize just for not being Trump. My late fishing buddy was the most MAGA person on the internet. Every post was blaming MSM, libtards, dummycrats, etc. I did not post on that site because we were such good friends, but he would fit in here. He would never post in a thread that was not about politics. Everything on the internet for him was politics 24/7. If you only knew him from the off topic forum at that other site you would strongly wonder how he functions in the world. In real life he had a double masters in petroleum engineering and computer science, he was the nicest guy you could imagine. If i needed help on the boat he would drive over and help, and we lived 40 minutes apart, it was not a quick drive. He never talked negatively about any subject in person, sports, fishing, work, other hobbies, businesses, etc. He was the most positive person you could meet. I do not know what it is about the internet, but it can bring out the worst in some many people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,150 Posted December 15, 2020 43 minutes ago, Jetdoc said: And he will accomplish all of this in just four years, ready to hand the baton to Kamala Harris for another eight years. I really hope not. She's worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Hand 482 Posted December 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: This place isn't any better than Twitter. The same stupid crap that gets spewed on Twitter gets posted here. This place is just as filled with hate as any other social media site. Like the hate at FFGUYS? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,745 Posted December 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: I really hope not. She's worse. You have no credibility when you reflexively hate them all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,066 Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr. Hand said: Like the hate at FFGUYS? Their hate for Trump? Yes. I never felt they hate near as much as the people who post here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted December 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: My late fishing buddy was the most MAGA person on the internet. Every post was blaming MSM, libtards, dummycrats, etc. I did not post on that site because we were such good friends, but he would fit in here. He would never post in a thread that was not about politics. Everything on the internet for him was politics 24/7. If you only knew him from the off topic forum at that other site you would strongly wonder how he functions in the world. In real life he had a double masters in petroleum engineering and computer science, he was the nicest guy you could imagine. If i needed help on the boat he would drive over and help, and we lived 40 minutes apart, it was not a quick drive. He never talked negatively about any subject in person, sports, fishing, work, other hobbies, businesses, etc. He was the most positive person you could meet. I do not know what it is about the internet, but it can bring out the worst in some many people. Well how the heck did he die? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted December 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: I really hope not. She's worse. Have no fear. AOC will be old enough to run instead. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,066 Posted December 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: My late fishing buddy was the most MAGA person on the internet. Every post was blaming MSM, libtards, dummycrats, etc. I did not post on that site because we were such good friends, but he would fit in here. He would never post in a thread that was not about politics. Everything on the internet for him was politics 24/7. If you only knew him from the off topic forum at that other site you would strongly wonder how he functions in the world. In real life he had a double masters in petroleum engineering and computer science, he was the nicest guy you could imagine. If i needed help on the boat he would drive over and help, and we lived 40 minutes apart, it was not a quick drive. He never talked negatively about any subject in person, sports, fishing, work, other hobbies, businesses, etc. He was the most positive person you could meet. I do not know what it is about the internet, but it can bring out the worst in some many people. A majority of the people I'm friends with on Facebook are just like your buddy. People who enjoy fishing and hunting are overwhelming strong conservatives and will voice their opinions loudly. My timeline is full of anti-Biden and socialism memes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Their hate for Trump? Yes. I never felt they hate near as much as the people who post here. Billy boring Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Rusty Syringes said: Well how the heck did he die? Sepsis caused by gall bladder issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said: Well how the heck did he die? Reading your posts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 1,878 Posted December 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: My late fishing buddy was the most MAGA person on the internet. Every post was blaming MSM, libtards, dummycrats, etc. I did not post on that site because we were such good friends, but he would fit in here. He would never post in a thread that was not about politics. Everything on the internet for him was politics 24/7. If you only knew him from the off topic forum at that other site you would strongly wonder how he functions in the world. In real life he had a double masters in petroleum engineering and computer science, he was the nicest guy you could imagine. If i needed help on the boat he would drive over and help, and we lived 40 minutes apart, it was not a quick drive. He never talked negatively about any subject in person, sports, fishing, work, other hobbies, businesses, etc. He was the most positive person you could meet. I do not know what it is about the internet, but it can bring out the worst in some many people. That hate spewed on this site for liberals over the last four years has blown my mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted December 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, OldMaid said: That hate spewed on this site for liberals over the last four years has blown my mind. It is unfortunate that people hate on other people just because of their political beliefs. We all want the same thing, a strong, healthy America. There are just different opinions on how that can be achieved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted December 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, vomit said: Reading your posts Guess I'll have to kick my posting into HIGH GEAR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Hand 482 Posted December 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, OldMaid said: That hate spewed on this site for liberals over the last four years has blown my mind. Never on this site have seen anyone say they disowned family, friends etc for voting for Biden. Do some research about how many people did that regarding Trump. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,392 Posted December 15, 2020 38 minutes ago, OldMaid said: Also, I predict Biden will win the Nobel Peace Prize just for not being Trump. Now that you said this, it wouldn't surprise me one iota... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,854 Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Jetdoc said: I believe Biden will wind up being one of the greatest presidents of all time. He will lead us through the conquering of one of the worst pandemics that America has faced. He will be known for saving the Earth from climate change through the changes he enacts over the next four years. He will heal many of the cultural divides in the country and bring equality to all, regardless of sex, race, nationality or sexual orientation. And he will accomplish all of this in just four years, ready to hand the baton to Kamala Harris for another eight years. dont forget he will continue to divide the country by making the black national anthem a thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,066 Posted December 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: It is unfortunate that people hate on other people just because of their political beliefs. We all want the same thing, a strong, healthy America. There are just different opinions on how that can be achieved. You're seeing Trump supporters say that those who didn't vote fore Trump are anti-America now. I've seen numerous memes that only show the states that voted for Trump as the real USA now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,854 Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: You're seeing Trump supporters say that those who didn't vote fore Trump are anti-America now. I've seen numerous memes that only show the states that voted for Trump as the real USA now. there is some truth to that the democrat party is pro globalism and china the republican party is pro america 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,745 Posted December 15, 2020 29 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: It is unfortunate that people hate on other people just because of their political beliefs. We all want the same thing, a strong, healthy America. There are just different opinions on how that can be achieved. Do we, though? I get the sense the Trumpers would rather destroy the country then not get their own way. At the very least they are willing to subvert democracy to their cause. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Hand 482 Posted December 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: You're seeing Trump supporters say that those who didn't vote fore Trump are anti-America now. I've seen numerous memes that only show the states that voted for Trump as the real USA now. The night he was elected some Democrats talked of impeachment. Which they did. Talk about hate? Stop this nonsense. Our country was doing great under Trump, and don’t blame Covid on him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted December 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: there is some truth to that the democrat party is pro globalism and china the republican party is pro america 1 minute ago, IGotWorms said: Do we, though? I get the sense the Trumpers would rather destroy the country then not get their own way. At the very least they are willing to subvert democracy to their cause. One thing I think we can agree on, both sides blame the other side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,150 Posted December 15, 2020 50 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: You have no credibility when you reflexively hate them all I don't hate them all, where did you see this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,745 Posted December 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: One thing I think we can agree on, both sides blame the other side. True. But it’s also easy to fall into false equivalency Share this post Link to post Share on other sites