Critical Race Theory

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3 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

No, I don't.

I have, in teaching here, seen how culture affects things.

My students are quite intelligent. I'm sure every bit as intelligent as students in the US or Europe. They are extremely good, even amazingly so, at anything that merely involves rote memorization and practice. Math, dance, etc.

However, 70 some odd years of commie education has utterly destroyed any ability to think critically or any problem solving skills whatsoever from these people. It's comical at times. If the answer isn't right there to be memorized and copied, they simply shut down. Don't have a clue what to do. Adults as well as children.

Similarly, in the African American community, there are cultural barriers to learning.

Why do Asian American and white American students perform better in school... 

1. Parents. Parents who give a fock. Parents who exist in a plural meaning of the word. Parents who aren't drug addicts. Parents who adequately feed and provide for the kids and actually supervise them.

2. The attitude toward education. Seems like the black community has a “if you try, you are a b!tch” mentality when it comes to school. A black student in America will face more pushback from his peers than any other race in America.

And that's on the black community. No amount of money will ever fix that. No system will ever fix that. Kids are like computers... garbage in, garbage out.

You want to know the true “white privilege?” Most white or asian people who succeed did so because their culture helped them do so. Most black people who succeed had to overcome theirs. Obviously that is much harder. 

Fortunately for black people, equality is coming! Not because they will lift themselves up, but because it seems like most white people are content to absorb that culture and join them at the bottom.

So there's that I guess. 

TBBOM -  Good on you.   This might be one of the best summations I've ever read.     You covered a lot of really, really important stuff in a medium length post.     I tip my cap to your clarity of vision.   

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One of my favorite writers, Douglas Murray, penned an excellent piece about this.     The fightback against Critical Race Theory - UnHerd

If you read it I'd also suggest reading the first comment on it by "Patrick Taylor" who has an very thoughtful an useful follow up to Murray's piece.   

 

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4 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

No, I don't.

I have, in teaching here, seen how culture affects things.

My students are quite intelligent. I'm sure every bit as intelligent as students in the US or Europe. They are extremely good, even amazingly so, at anything that merely involves rote memorization and practice. Math, dance, etc.

However, 70 some odd years of commie education has utterly destroyed any ability to think critically or any problem solving skills whatsoever from these people. It's comical at times. If the answer isn't right there to be memorized and copied, they simply shut down. Don't have a clue what to do. Adults as well as children.

Similarly, in the African American community, there are cultural barriers to learning.

Why do Asian American and white American students perform better in school... 

1. Parents. Parents who give a fock. Parents who exist in a plural meaning of the word. Parents who aren't drug addicts. Parents who adequately feed and provide for the kids and actually supervise them.

2. The attitude toward education. Seems like the black community has a “if you try, you are a b!tch” mentality when it comes to school. A black student in America will face more pushback from his peers than any other race in America.

And that's on the black community. No amount of money will ever fix that. No system will ever fix that. Kids are like computers... garbage in, garbage out.

You want to know the true “white privilege?” Most white or asian people who succeed did so because their culture helped them do so. Most black people who succeed had to overcome theirs. Obviously that is much harder. 

Fortunately for black people, equality is coming! Not because they will lift themselves up, but because it seems like most white people are content to absorb that culture and join them at the bottom.

So there's that I guess. 

Excellent post.

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6 hours ago, Voltaire said:

That's not what he's saying.

He either doesn't understand, or doesn't care, or is deliberately trying to mislead about how it's tenets are being implemented in school curriculum. He also deliberately waters down the definition to mean what he wants it to mean, to make it palatable  to us, reassure us it's not so bad, rather than bother to actually look into what the creators say it means in their own words.

CRT denigrates colorblindness and being non-racist as racist. You are expected to be anti-racist, which means to support racist policies that promote "equity." And what "equity" means isn't what it has always meant. CRT redefines it to mean what you would recognize as anti-white racism. We're not promoting equal opportunity for all. That's colorblindness, which is racist. It's quotas. There aren't enough minorities or trannies or women in this occupation, so we need to hire/admit on the basis of color rather than merit until the quotas are met. It is color obsession rather than color blindness.

It also is mired deep in white shaming, assuring minorities the system is rigged against them, historical revision demonizing dead white guys, replacing heroes with victims, and a whole lot of awful things. It has Marxist roots, seeking to undermine the foundations of the Western culture, which dogcows deliberately ignores and won't bring up.

You can take CRT and discolor any topic by viewing that topic through a CRT lens. Martin Jay, one of it's founders, calls it a gadfly that can attach itself to any field of study. Dogcows is, again, either misinformed, or lying, or deliberately misleading us as to how pervasive this all is.

The point of view of teachers isn’t going to change much just because they go to some sensitivity training (CRT or otherwise). I’ve been around long enough to see that for a fact. The overall change of society is what will actually make a difference. Young teachers today have a very different point of view... even compared to the parents of the students. People are having kids when they are older, so parents of young kids are often in their late 30s or 40s, while many teachers are in their 20s. The sensitivity training is most likely aimed at the older teachers, and I think it’s unlikely those older teachers will pay it any mind.

It might seem like these sensitivity sessions are changing the culture, but the culture changed way before that.

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4 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

No, I don't.

I have, in teaching here, seen how culture affects things.

My students are quite intelligent. I'm sure every bit as intelligent as students in the US or Europe. They are extremely good, even amazingly so, at anything that merely involves rote memorization and practice. Math, dance, etc.

However, 70 some odd years of commie education has utterly destroyed any ability to think critically or any problem solving skills whatsoever from these people. It's comical at times. If the answer isn't right there to be memorized and copied, they simply shut down. Don't have a clue what to do. Adults as well as children.

Similarly, in the African American community, there are cultural barriers to learning.

Why do Asian American and white American students perform better in school... 

1. Parents. Parents who give a fock. Parents who exist in a plural meaning of the word. Parents who aren't drug addicts. Parents who adequately feed and provide for the kids and actually supervise them.

2. The attitude toward education. Seems like the black community has a “if you try, you are a b!tch” mentality when it comes to school. A black student in America will face more pushback from his peers than any other race in America.

And that's on the black community. No amount of money will ever fix that. No system will ever fix that. Kids are like computers... garbage in, garbage out.

You want to know the true “white privilege?” Most white or asian people who succeed did so because their culture helped them do so. Most black people who succeed had to overcome theirs. Obviously that is much harder. 

Fortunately for black people, equality is coming! Not because they will lift themselves up, but because it seems like most white people are content to absorb that culture and join them at the bottom.

So there's that I guess. 

My nephew noticed that his fellow students that did the worst in school had parents who didn’t seem to care. I saw that when I was growing up too. So I agree - parents that care about school performance seem to be one of the best predictors of success.

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9 minutes ago, dogcows said:

The point of view of teachers isn’t going to change much just because they go to some sensitivity training (CRT or otherwise). I’ve been around long enough to see that for a fact. 

What kind of arbitrary garbage is that? You do know teachers are required to teach stste mandated curriculum.  End when the state curriculum is bustling with anti-racism, uh, the teachers POV isn't sh!t.

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6 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

What kind of arbitrary garbage is that? You do know teachers are required to teach stste mandated curriculum.  End when the state curriculum is bustling with anti-racism, uh, the teachers POV isn't sh!t.

It’s not state-mandated curriculum. Again with the misinformation. I’d like you to show me where CRT is in a state’s mandated curriculum. The evidence that has been presented so far is that there have been some sensitivity trainings that discuss CRT. People are blowing this way out of proportion. Just the latest thing to get worked up about.

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Dogclowns is right.  Nothing to be concerned about.  Move along and leave the education and social engineering up to the professionals in the teachers union and their allies. The same group that want our kids vaccinated and masked up all day. 

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11 minutes ago, dogcows said:

It’s not state-mandated curriculum. Again with the misinformation. I’d like you to show me where CRT is in a state’s mandated curriculum. The evidence that has been presented so far is that there have been some sensitivity trainings that discuss CRT. People are blowing this way out of proportion. Just the latest thing to get worked up about.

Here we go with "show me CRT" song and dance. Ive said for weeks on this board, you not gonna find the CRT smoking gun. How about you research some anti-racism and see if that isn't woven deeply into ciriculum. I've agreed with you that the actual "CRT" name is misplaced as to what is taught.  But that doesn't mean that the walls that hold up the CRT roof arent being taught. 

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Just now, Fireballer said:

Here we go with "show me CRT" song and dance. Ive said for weeks on this board, you not gonna find the CRT smoking gun. How about you research some anti-racism and see if that isn't woven deeply into ciriculum. I've agreed with you that the actual "CRT" name is misplaced as to what is taught.  But that doesn't mean that the walls that hold up the CRT roof arent being taught. 

You are the one who put “state-mandated curriculum” into the argument, and now you want to throw it out? Please, I’d love to see what is in the state-mandated curriculum that you disagree with. If you don’t like the sensitivity training, just say that... but don’t call it state-mandated curriculum. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

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10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

social engineering 

Excellent term encompassing what's happening.

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Just now, dogcows said:

You are the one who put “state-mandated curriculum” into the argument, and now you want to throw it out? Please, I’d love to see what is in the state-mandated curriculum that you disagree with. If you don’t like the sensitivity training, just say that... but don’t call it state-mandated curriculum. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

Sensitivity training?  What a soft term for what's happening.

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5 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

You want to know the true “white privilege?” Most white or asian people who succeed did so because their culture helped them do so. Most black people who succeed had to overcome theirs. Obviously that is much harder. 

 

This one paragraph pretty much sums it up. 

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2 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Sensitivity training?  What a soft term for what's happening.

Again, you are missing what’s really happening. These annual trainings that some schools are having are not going to move the needle. If you’ve ever had to sit through one, and then talked to coworkers afterwards, no attitudes seem to be changed by them.

Overall changes in points-of-view happen every single generation. The kids of our kids will have an even different point of view. Trying to control it or getting outraged about it just turns you into a grumpy old man shaking his fist.

 

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5 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Again, you are missing what’s really happening. These annual trainings that some schools are having are not going to move the needle. If you’ve ever had to sit through one, and then talked to coworkers afterwards, no attitudes seem to be changed by them.

Overall changes in points-of-view happen every single generation. The kids of our kids will have an even different point of view. Trying to control it or getting outraged about it just turns you into a grumpy old man shaking his fist.

 

Would you consider anti-racist training as sensitivity training?

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9 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Would you consider anti-racist training as sensitivity training?

There are periodically trainings like this: anti-racism, anti-sexual harassment, etc, etc. Maybe a small number of people were doing something they didn’t know was wrong and want to change, but these are (IMHO) mostly done to avoid lawsuits. “We told our teachers not to call your kid that racial slur” or “We told our teachers not to grab the kids’ butts.” ... whatever, the school is covered when a teacher does something stupid, because they “trained” them not to do it.

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13 minutes ago, dogcows said:

There are periodically trainings like this: anti-racism, anti-sexual harassment, etc, etc. Maybe a small number of people were doing something they didn’t know was wrong and want to change, but these are (IMHO) mostly done to avoid lawsuits. “We told our teachers not to call your kid that racial slur” or “We told our teachers not to grab the kids’ butts.” ... whatever, the school is covered when a teacher does something stupid, because they “trained” them not to do it.

So no one is being told they are inherently racist, and if they deny that, that makes them racist as well?  None of that sort of thing is going on? 

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21 minutes ago, dogcows said:

There are periodically trainings like this: anti-racism, anti-sexual harassment, etc, etc. Maybe a small number of people were doing something they didn’t know was wrong and want to change, but these are (IMHO) mostly done to avoid lawsuits. “We told our teachers not to call your kid that racial slur” or “We told our teachers not to grab the kids’ butts.” ... whatever, the school is covered when a teacher does something stupid, because they “trained” them not to do it.

Yeah, that's what's in the training slides I've seen, "don't call a black kid a nagger."   

One of the things I enjoy about your posts is that it provides insight as to what pablum the MSM is feeding its constituents.  For CRT, it is "why are you conservatards so concerned about CRT, it isn't being taught, ergo it will never be taught!  And coming up with laws against teaching it, why are you doing that?!  It isn't being taught, you shouldn't enact those laws$#@!"  

Or maybe... if it isn't ever going to be taught, why do you care so much?

Then again, slippery slopes never happen.  

Sincerely,

Jerryskids (he/him, CIS testicle haver)

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29 minutes ago, dogcows said:

There are periodically trainings like this: anti-racism, anti-sexual harassment, etc, etc. Maybe a small number of people were doing something they didn’t know was wrong and want to change, but these are (IMHO) mostly done to avoid lawsuits. “We told our teachers not to call your kid that racial slur” or “We told our teachers not to grab the kids’ butts.” ... whatever, the school is covered when a teacher does something stupid, because they “trained” them not to do it.

Do more research on anti-racism. You obviously don't know what it is.

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46 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Yeah, that's what's in the training slides I've seen, "don't call a black kid a nagger."   

One of the things I enjoy about your posts is that it provides insight as to what pablum the MSM is feeding its constituents.  For CRT, it is "why are you conservatards so concerned about CRT, it isn't being taught, ergo it will never be taught!  And coming up with laws against teaching it, why are you doing that?!  It isn't being taught, you shouldn't enact those laws$#@!"  

Or maybe... if it isn't ever going to be taught, why do you care so much?

Then again, slippery slopes never happen.  

Sincerely,

Jerryskids (he/him, CIS testicle haver)

I am concerned about the state passing draconian laws limiting teachers’ ability to teach history accurately. I am not riled up by teachers getting anti-racism training. The training doesn’t force the teachers to teach anything from it; it simply gives them information.

Why not fix this by making the teachers attend training on theories that are counter to CRT? Now the teachers have equal time with both sides of the issue, and can make up their own minds. Instead, we get hastily-written reactionary bills based on anger.

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On 6/29/2021 at 11:46 AM, Utilit99 said:

Teach CMT instead. Critical Math Theory. Throw that other shlt out.

Well, they are teaching are kids Arabic numerals. Probably the first step in a secret Muslim takeover of America!

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34 minutes ago, dogcows said:

I am concerned about the state passing draconian laws limiting teachers’ ability to teach history accurately. I am not riled up by teachers getting anti-racism training. The training doesn’t force the teachers to teach anything from it; it simply gives them information.

Why not fix this by making the teachers attend training on theories that are counter to CRT? Now the teachers have equal time with both sides of the issue, and can make up their own minds. Instead, we get hastily-written reactionary bills based on anger.

How bout we use the states limited training resources to train teachers on, I don't focking know, newer and better ways of teaching reading and math?

Human resources professionals are right down there with pedophiles and members of congress on the scum pyramid. I used to have dread every time I got an email from those tvvats.

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32 minutes ago, dogcows said:

I am concerned about the state passing draconian laws limiting teachers’ ability to teach history accurately. I am not riled up by teachers getting anti-racism training. The training doesn’t force the teachers to teach anything from it; it simply gives them information.

Stop being dense.  Kids are taught anti-racism.  Anti racist curriculum centers around race.  Students are told to recognize their privilege.  Apperently you didn't dig to deeply into anti-racism.

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1 hour ago, dogcows said:

I am concerned about the state passing draconian laws limiting teachers’ ability to teach history accurately. I am not riled up by teachers getting anti-racism training. The training doesn’t force the teachers to teach anything from it; it simply gives them information.

Why not fix this by making the teachers attend training on theories that are counter to CRT? Now the teachers have equal time with both sides of the issue, and can make up their own minds. Instead, we get hastily-written reactionary bills based on anger.

Interesting idea, I wonder what the woke shark tank of Twitter would think if you tossed that counter training chum out there.  Pro tip: if you do it, don't use an account you care about.

As I've said before, I'm all for accurate history.  And I would argue that by the backtracking of the left regarding the intentions of the training, the laws are having the desired effect.

BTW, do you know what anti-racism is? You are OK with that training? What do you think is the goal of that training?

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Loudoun Co. VA is pretty much ground zero for this stuff.  This is straight from the VA DOE document on equity.

We remain steadfast in our commitment to the principles of anti-racism

Now go look at the principles of anti racism.  

 

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2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Interesting idea, I wonder what the woke shark tank of Twitter would think if you tossed that counter training chum out there.  Pro tip: if you do it, don't use an account you care about.

As I've said before, I'm all for accurate history.  And I would argue that by the backtracking of the left regarding the intentions of the training, the laws are having the desired effect.

BTW, do you know what anti-racism is? You are OK with that training? What do you think is the goal of that training?

1. I'd have no problem tossing that idea out there. I’ll toss it out on a forum that is more liberal and let you know if they rip me apart. As for twitter, no thanks. I read it but don’t have an account. If the ACTUAL problem (not a possible future consequence) is that teachers are getting CRT training, then I think the most direct solution is to require anybody that got CRT training to also get training that offers the opposing perspective. Instead, the laws being passed are full of attacks on things that aren’t happening, and provisions that will probably have myriad unintended consequences.

2. I’d love to hear what is actually being taught in history classes by teachers that did CRT training. Maybe compare it to what’s taught in schools without it? As it is, the negative reactions I’m seeing aren’t based on any actual data, just feelings. Comparing the two curricula would help answer the question of whether or not the CRT training for teachers is having any effect.

3. Do I know what anti-racism is? Yes. I have read the articles by Ibram Kendi in The Atlantic, and I think he has a lot of good things to say. Do I know how the right-wing media is portraying it? No. Maybe you could toss me a link or two? Somebody posted the CRT video from Prager U here, and it was helpful for me to see the right-wing perspective on it. Perhaps they draw attention to some aspects of it that are troublesome.

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39 minutes ago, dogcows said:

1. I'd have no problem tossing that idea out there. I’ll toss it out on a forum that is more liberal and let you know if they rip me apart. As for twitter, no thanks. I read it but don’t have an account. If the ACTUAL problem (not a possible future consequence) is that teachers are getting CRT training, then I think the most direct solution is to require anybody that got CRT training to also get training that offers the opposing perspective. Instead, the laws being passed are full of attacks on things that aren’t happening, and provisions that will probably have myriad unintended consequences.

2. I’d love to hear what is actually being taught in history classes by teachers that did CRT training. Maybe compare it to what’s taught in schools without it? As it is, the negative reactions I’m seeing aren’t based on any actual data, just feelings. Comparing the two curricula would help answer the question of whether or not the CRT training for teachers is having any effect.

3. Do I know what anti-racism is? Yes. I have read the articles by Ibram Kendi in The Atlantic, and I think he has a lot of good things to say. Do I know how the right-wing media is portraying it? No. Maybe you could toss me a link or two? Somebody posted the CRT video from Prager U here, and it was helpful for me to see the right-wing perspective on it. Perhaps they draw attention to some aspects of it that are troublesome.

Not a bad post dogcows, in that you get to neutral, and are willing to taking a closer look, which isn't such a bad place to be. Most of the time, on most topics, neutral should be the default starting position but we tend to let biases creep in.

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Just now, Voltaire said:

Not a bad post, dogcows in that you get to neutral, and are willing to taking a closer look, which isn't such a bad place to be. Most of the time, on most topics, neutral should be the default starting position.

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Crap, I’ve been neutered.

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Just now, dogcows said:

Crap, I’ve been neutered.

We tend to let our biaes creep in to affect where we start on an issue.

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31 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Not a bad post dogcows, in that you get to neutral, and are willing to taking a closer look, which isn't such a bad place to be. Most of the time, on most topics, neutral should be the default starting position but we tend to let biases creep in.

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Nope. Us and them. Hard stop, no need to see the other sides point. It’s the same side that thinks men can have a vagina and women can have a cack

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I love it when you guys try to get through to Newbie.  Cause that's worked in the past. 

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14 minutes ago, Strike said:

I love it when you guys try to get through to Newbie.  Cause that's worked in the past. 

I suck at the aliases, I'm always the last to know. So the understanding is that dogcows is Newbie?

Why can't everybody just be like Mike Isles, even I was able to figure that one out from day one.

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42 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I suck at the aliases, I'm always the last to know. So the understanding is that dogcows is Newbie?

Why can't everybody just be like Mike Isles, even I was able to figure that one out from day one.

I don’t know who newbie is. I originally thought people were calling me that since I haven’t been on this forum very long… 

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2 hours ago, dogcows said:

 

3. Do I know what anti-racism is? Yes. I have read the articles by Ibram Kendi in The Atlantic, and I think he has a lot of good things to say. Do I know how the right-wing media is portraying it? No. Maybe you could toss me a link or two? Somebody posted the CRT video from Prager U here, and it was helpful for me to see the right-wing perspective on it. Perhaps they draw attention to some aspects of it that are troublesome.

You should have gotten as far as two principles, and knew it's bullsh!t. 

1. If you (students) aren't actively dismantling the racist systems that helped found our country,, you are upholding white supremacy..

2.  Anti racist education is race centered and your race is the single most important factor effecting your outcomes. 

You don't need the righty spin.  The left tells you all u need to know. And for the umpteenth time, this ain't about history class.

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3 hours ago, dogcows said:

1. I'd have no problem tossing that idea out there. I’ll toss it out on a forum that is more liberal and let you know if they rip me apart. As for twitter, no thanks. I read it but don’t have an account. If the ACTUAL problem (not a possible future consequence) is that teachers are getting CRT training, then I think the most direct solution is to require anybody that got CRT training to also get training that offers the opposing perspective. Instead, the laws being passed are full of attacks on things that aren’t happening, and provisions that will probably have myriad unintended consequences.

2. I’d love to hear what is actually being taught in history classes by teachers that did CRT training. Maybe compare it to what’s taught in schools without it? As it is, the negative reactions I’m seeing aren’t based on any actual data, just feelings. Comparing the two curricula would help answer the question of whether or not the CRT training for teachers is having any effect.

3. Do I know what anti-racism is? Yes. I have read the articles by Ibram Kendi in The Atlantic, and I think he has a lot of good things to say. Do I know how the right-wing media is portraying it? No. Maybe you could toss me a link or two? Somebody posted the CRT video from Prager U here, and it was helpful for me to see the right-wing perspective on it. Perhaps they draw attention to some aspects of it that are troublesome.

1.  There is no solution.  Public schools, in particular, are liberal cesspools.

2.  Anyone that thinks that Ibram Kendi has a lot of good things to say is a commie.

3.  Anyone that thinks you are arguing in good faith is a retard.

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19 minutes ago, Casual Observer said:

1.  There is no solution.  Public schools, in particular, are liberal cesspools.

2.  Anyone that thinks that Ibram Kendi has a lot of good things to say is a commie.

3.  Anyone that thinks you are arguing in good faith is a retard.

Great points. You must have been on the high school debate team.

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1 hour ago, Fireballer said:

You should have gotten as far as two principles, and knew it's bullsh!t. 

1. If you (students) aren't actively dismantling the racist systems that helped found our country,, you are upholding white supremacy..

2.  Anti racist education is race centered and your race is the single most important factor effecting your outcomes. 

You don't need the righty spin.  The left tells you all u need to know. And for the umpteenth time, this ain't about history class.

That was not my takeaway from his writings at all. I think in argument 2 you are alluding to the idea that some think we should ignore race completely, and to discuss race at all is a type of racism. Ideally, it would be great if race made no difference in the world. But one cannot accurately diagnose what is happening (and has happened in the past) in America without recognizing that attitudes towards people based on their skin color were and are a substantial factor. The insistence on being “colorblind” is just a way of putting one’s head in the sand, IMHO.

As for argument 1, I didn’t recall the writing to be that militant. Maybe it’s worth a re-read.

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11 minutes ago, dogcows said:

That was not my takeaway from his writings at all. I think in argument 2 you are alluding to the idea that some think we should ignore race completely, and to discuss race at all is a type of racism. Ideally, it would be great if race made no difference in the world. But one cannot accurately diagnose what is happening (and has happened in the past) in America without recognizing that attitudes towards people based on their skin color were and are a substantial factor. The insistence on being “colorblind” is just a way of putting one’s head in the sand, IMHO.

As for argument 1, I didn’t recall the writing to be that militant. Maybe it’s worth a re-read.

My two assertions are spot on.  Khendi isn't the only anti racism scholar, just the top huckster to get 10mil from Jack for his "research institute" that has yet to produce research. He's also the guy who can't define anti racism without using racism in the definition. What are you doing to dismantle racist structures? 

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3 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

What are you doing to dismantle racist structures? 

I voted against Trump!

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1 hour ago, dogcows said:

I voted against Trump!

Race relations are so much better now that he’s gone.