Hardcore troubadour 15,740 Posted June 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Neither are my kids. Neither are mine. What’s your point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,900 Posted June 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Neither are mine. What’s your point? chicken little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,740 Posted June 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: chicken little. Chickenshit. You’re terrified. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,900 Posted June 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Chickenshit. You’re terrified. I'm terrified? You're the one crying about how all this is gonna destroy America! You're a poosay, a scared lil faygot that is scared of any kind of change, anything possible in the future. Relax dude. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,740 Posted June 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: I'm terrified? You're the one crying about how all this is gonna destroy America! You're a poosay, a scared lil faygot that is scared of any kind of change, anything possible in the future. Relax dude. You’re so cool, Joe cool. Noting concerns you! You are one hep cat. And as an added bonus, no one will call you racist or anti lgbtq or such. Such a tool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,297 Posted June 23, 2021 16 hours ago, peenie said: Well, what are you all whining about now? First of all, there is no such thing as race. Can we agree to that yet? We are one race!!!!!! Geezus!!! Now, what's the other problem? Apparently claiming that we're all one race is white supremacy in action. Is peenie a Klan member? https://www.foxnews.com/us/critical-race-theory-indoctrination Here's the slide that lists all the things that are an example of white supremacist things. "But we're all just one human family" is straight out of the covert white supremacist playbook. Be better peenie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,618 Posted June 23, 2021 16 hours ago, peenie said: First of all, there is no such thing as race. Can we agree to that yet? We are one race!!!!!! Geezus!!! Conservatives would love for this to be the case... yet, in order to win elections, the Liberals need to make race a constant issue. The best way to get us to where we look at each other as one race... is for black people to stop voting for Democrats. Some are waking up, but not enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,740 Posted June 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, DonS said: Apparently claiming that we're all one race is white supremacy in action. Is peenie a Klan member? https://www.foxnews.com/us/critical-race-theory-indoctrination Here's the slide that lists all the things that are an example of white supremacist things. "But we're all just one human family" is straight out of the covert white supremacist playbook. Be better peenie. My favorite is “expecting poc to teach white people”. Lol. How Fockin arrogant is that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,618 Posted June 23, 2021 I find it funny how our local Liberals are going on and on claiming that CRT (and variations there of), isn't being taught in schools... yet there's video's throughout this thread about parents going off on their school board for proposing to teach CRT (and variations there of). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,389 Posted June 23, 2021 The claim that "CRT isn't being taught in the schools" is a canard diversion. Teachers are being taught this stuff everywhere and applying the lessons they learn from that training in the schools where they pass it down to the kids even if they aren' t reading White Fragitily in the classroom. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted June 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I find it funny how our local Liberals are going on and on claiming that CRT (and variations there of), isn't being taught in schools... yet there's video's throughout this thread about parents going off on their school board for proposing to teach CRT (and variations there of). It's not that surprising, these are the same people who told us high school boys competing in girls sports wouldn't be a slippery slope issue. They are consistently wrong and the last to find out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,661 Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said: I find it funny how our local Liberals are going on and on claiming that CRT (and variations there of), isn't being taught in schools... yet there's video's throughout this thread about parents going off on their school board for proposing to teach CRT (and variations there of). First it’s “Public school systems coast to coast teaching CRT everywhere!” Then it’s, “Okay they aren’t calling it CRT per se but it’s some variation of CRT.” Finally it’s, “OK, this isn’t actually widespread public school policy but some teachers somewhere are teaching a variation of CRT.” When do you realize you’ve been had? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted June 23, 2021 Take the word “white” and replace it with black in CRT. Does it sound racist? (Short answer: yes) Then it’s racist and shouldn’t be taught Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,618 Posted June 23, 2021 2 hours ago, MDC said: First it’s “Public school systems coast to coast teaching CRT everywhere!” Then it’s, “Okay they aren’t calling it CRT per se but it’s some variation of CRT.” Finally it’s, “OK, this isn’t actually widespread public school policy but some teachers somewhere are teaching a variation of CRT.” When do you realize you’ve been had? If someone says African American, that can be perceived as a person who's American that came from Africa. But, it's a black person they're talking about. So they could say "African American" or simply, Black. Back in the 1980's, it was racist to say Black... you had to call them African American. Then, African American was bad, so we had to call them Black (weird how Liberals operate). Now, in order to make group all minorities and pretend they're all oppressed, we call them BIPOC. In the end, what you call it is irrelevant... we all know what's going on. CRT is the same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,297 Posted June 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: If someone says African American, that can be perceived as a person who's American that came from Africa. But, it's a black person they're talking about. So they could say "African American" or simply, Black. Back in the 1980's, it was racist to say Black... you had to call them African American. Then, African American was bad, so we had to call them Black (weird how Liberals operate). Now, in order to make group all minorities and pretend they're all oppressed, we call them People of Color. In the end, what you call it is irrelevant... we all know what's going on. CRT is the same thing. Actually POC no longer cuts it since it doesn't give blacks a proper shoutout. New term is BIPOC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,618 Posted June 23, 2021 1 minute ago, DonS said: Actually POC no longer cuts it since it doesn't give blacks a proper shoutout. New term is BIPOC. Noted. Update made. Thanks. See how this crap constantly changes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted June 23, 2021 Saw the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff shut down that sniveling little b1tch Gaetz on this CRT boogeyman https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-military/2021/06/23/the-militarys-top-officer-schools-congressmen-on-critical-race-theory-white-rage-and-communism/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,740 Posted June 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Saw the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff shut down that sniveling little b1tch Gaetz on this CRT boogeyman https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-military/2021/06/23/the-militarys-top-officer-schools-congressmen-on-critical-race-theory-white-rage-and-communism/ Cuck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted June 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Cuck I’d like to see you say that to the general’s face 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,783 Posted June 23, 2021 30 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Saw the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff shut down that sniveling little b1tch Gaetz on this CRT boogeyman https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-military/2021/06/23/the-militarys-top-officer-schools-congressmen-on-critical-race-theory-white-rage-and-communism/ You may want to re-read your own link. Or read it for the first time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,740 Posted June 23, 2021 56 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: I’d like to see you say that to the general’s face Ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted June 23, 2021 51 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: You may want to re-read your own link. Or read it for the first time. I did read it, but the video’s better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,032 Posted June 23, 2021 20 hours ago, Masshole said: DC at times I appreciate your thoughts and you can occasionally make some valid points. But this is total garbage. You didn't even watch the whole segment, did you? Just watched a clip that was tweeted out. They threw a little rage bait/click bait at you and you just wolfed it down, didn't you? I watched the whole thing. I disagree with him on a lot but I respect and like MLH and am familiar with his work/commentary. There was no "own-age" in that segment. Exactly the opposite. Lindsay and Boghossian acquitted themselves well and it was an interesting dialog overall. The majority of the comments on the full segment video were "I wish you 3 would do a 1 hr segment. . ." Not "MLH - you torched them!" If you watch the whole thing you'll see that Lindsay's response to MLH after that tweet clip speech left MLH sputtering for a response that he couldn't really come up with and then he had to end the segment. If there is any criticism of Lindsay in that segment it's that he let his guard down a bit with his "you really know this stuff" statement. If you watch the whole thing - it's obvious that he is being complimentary of MLH's grasp of the subject and that he's not used to having someone who is supposedly an "expert" who actually does know what he's talking about. That's a sad commentary on the CRT "experts" out there, not Lindsay. Can't send out links that supposedly "back up" your point without actually viewing or reading their source material. That's some weak stuff and if you want to be taken seriously - that's the wrong direction from that goal. . . Thanks - I will watch the full video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Ok Gaetz just shaking his head like a kunt Isn’t that fella supposed to be in prison, anyway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,740 Posted June 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Gaetz just shaking his head like a kunt Isn’t that fella supposed to be in prison, anyway? Your general, who you like all of a sudden, directly contradicted his boss. But you didn’t here what Austin had to say. Funny both of them acknowledged CRT. I thought it was a boogie man? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,032 Posted June 23, 2021 10 hours ago, avoiding injuries said: There are two very interesting things going on here IMHO. First, you see a room full of people disproportionately angry about CRT… almost all white. This reinforces my belief that this is a bogeyman. I am guessing 90% of the people there never heard of CRT a few months ago, heard about it on Facebook or Fox, and falsely believe that CRT = teachers telling white kids they are evil, and that it’s being taught “everywhere” so they need to violently act out to stop it. Second, Loudoun county is a very interesting place. For many years, Virginia was a “red” state. However, as Northern Virginia (DC Suburbs) kept growing, the state flipped to “blue.” Loudoun county is geographically right on the edge between new and old Virginia. I have a feeling many there feel angry that those “DC liberals” are encroaching on their territory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,740 Posted June 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, dogcows said: There are two very interesting things going on here IMHO. First, you see a room full of people disproportionately angry about CRT… almost all white. This reinforces my belief that this is a bogeyman. I am guessing 90% of the people there never heard of CRT a few months ago, heard about it on Facebook or Fox, and falsely believe that CRT = teachers telling white kids they are evil, and that it’s being taught “everywhere” so they need to violently act out to stop it. Second, Loudoun county is a very interesting place. For many years, Virginia was a “red” state. However, as Northern Virginia (DC Suburbs) kept growing, the state flipped to “blue.” Loudoun county is geographically right on the edge between new and old Virginia. I have a feeling many there feel angry that those “DC liberals” are encroaching on their territory. What does it matter when they found out about it? As if you were up on it. No one thinks you’re some great intellect, FYI. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,060 Posted June 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Your general, who you like all of a sudden, directly contradicted his boss. But you didn’t here what Austin had to say. Funny both of them acknowledged CRT. I thought it was a boogie man? Yep, it is a boogie man and that’s basically what the general said. It’s a boogie man that whips the white supremacists into a rage and that’s what concerns the general and his boss. HTH 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,032 Posted June 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: What does it matter when they found out about it? As if you were up on it. No one thinks you’re some great intellect, FYI. If one is willing to get violent over something, you’d hope they would at least know a bit about it. Instead, you get mobs upset at the outrage-of-the-month… fed to them by the algorithms on Facebook that create feedback loops and echo chambers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,740 Posted June 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, dogcows said: If one is willing to get violent over something, you’d hope they would at least know a bit about it. Instead, you get mobs upset at the outrage-of-the-month… fed to them by the algorithms on Facebook that create feedback loops and echo chambers. Like the police are killing unarmed blacks at an alarming rate? Funny you didn’t get worked up much about that false narrative. And the “mobs” outraged by CRT have yet to burn any cities down or kill anyone. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,664 Posted June 23, 2021 I'm assuming that the lady in this video isn't lying when she says 475,000 educators have been trained to spew this ilk. Damn bogeyman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,295 Posted June 23, 2021 Teaching minorities that they are victims is not going to help anyone. I heard from multiple people today that critical race is very important and should be taught. Yet another nonsense topic to divide and distract people while the government gains more control. The rich become richer. Until we go into poor communities and try to build them from the ground up, and properly educate the children, nothing will change. Teaching kids that they are victims will just keep them with that mentality, which is what the peole who perpetuate this crap want Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,664 Posted June 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Teaching minorities that they are victims is not going to help anyone. I heard from multiple people today that critical race is very important and should be taught. Yet another nonsense topic to divide and distract people while the government gains more control. The rich become richer. Until we go into poor communities and try to build them from the ground up, and properly educate the children, nothing will change. Teaching kids that they are victims will just keep them with that mentality, which is what the peole who perpetuate this crap want Winner, winner. The problem is that all the resources that could provide their precious "equity", are controlled by Dems. Sometimes the doctor doesn't want the patient to get better. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,295 Posted June 23, 2021 Here's the sad part about all this race bullshlt, the people who are pro crt education want someone like me to admit my white privilege. Me, a middle class father who is dating a mixed woman, who has a mixed son, who teaches my children not to judge someone based on their skin color. I grew up without food to eat on certain days. I lived in a trashy ass trailer park for a few years. Why am I admitting my white privilege? Why don't they demand the uber rich admit their privilege? Why is it the middle class white guy who is a good dad? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,295 Posted June 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Fireballer said: Winner, winner. The problem is that all the resources that could provide their precious "equity", are controlled by Dems. Sometimes the doctor doesn't want the patient to get better. Its also too difficult. The task is monumental and would take generations to accomplish. Dems don't want to take the hard work approach. They just want to fire bomb these areas with welfare Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,032 Posted June 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Teaching minorities that they are victims is not going to help anyone. I heard from multiple people today that critical race is very important and should be taught. Yet another nonsense topic to divide and distract people while the government gains more control. The rich become richer. Until we go into poor communities and try to build them from the ground up, and properly educate the children, nothing will change. Teaching kids that they are victims will just keep them with that mentality, which is what the peole who perpetuate this crap want I believe this is a misinterpretation. The point is not that all black people are victims or that all white people are racists. The point is: we know legal systems discriminating against black people existed in much of America until at least the 1960s. Everything didn’t become equitable overnight. What long-term effects did Jim Crow laws have that might persist today? One example: black people weren’t allowed to get loans or even buy homes in many neighborhoods. The people that bought homes during the days of Jim Crow were able to pay off the home in time, and pass the home or at least the proceeds from the home to their children. That is generational wealth that black people were not legally allowed to accumulate, while white people were. That’s just one example of things to consider. Are there other systems that were setup during Jim Crow that never got changed and still contain some biases against black people? None of this says that white people are evil or that black people are victims. It does rightly acknowledge the past and asks what effect history has on the present. I fail to see the problem in looking at such things critically. Pitching it as “stop telling white kids they are evil” is a way to discredit the study, and IMHO it misses the point. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,740 Posted June 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, dogcows said: I believe this is a misinterpretation. The point is not that all black people are victims or that all white people are racists. The point is: we know legal systems discriminating against black people existed in much of America until at least the 1960s. Everything didn’t become equitable overnight. What long-term effects did Jim Crow laws have that might persist today? One example: black people weren’t allowed to get loans or even buy homes in many neighborhoods. The people that bought homes during the days of Jim Crow were able to pay off the home in time, and pass the home or at least the proceeds from the home to their children. That is generational wealth that black people were not legally allowed to accumulate, while white people were. That’s just one example of things to consider. Are there other systems that were setup during Jim Crow that never got changed and still contain some biases against black people? None of this says that white people are evil or that black people are victims. It does rightly acknowledge the past and asks what effect history has on the present. I fail to see the problem in looking at such things critically. Pitching it as “stop telling white kids they are evil” is a way to discredit the study, and IMHO it misses the point. So, the point of crt and the rest is to educate white people about the fact that balck people got a raw deal? That’s it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted June 23, 2021 The only theory about race I think about is how incredible things would have been had America not partaken in bringing Africans over here by the boatload for slavery. (Which by the way was happening all over, not just by big bad Americans). Just imagine if we had never purposefully bred and proliferated the hateful, parasitic and reviled worldwide people known as African Americans. Africans would have immigrated over here over time naturally and the culture would be so much different. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,661 Posted June 23, 2021 Leave it to the Geek Club to make white people the real victims of slavery. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,664 Posted June 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, dogcows said: The point is not that all black people are victims or that all white people are racists. Says you...but that mindset is not compatable with the anti-racist culture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites