posty 2,613 Posted April 4, 2022 Yay, more fear-mongering... https://www.yahoo.com/news/ipcc-window-to-avert-catastrophic-climate-change-is-quickly-closing-161926811.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,243 Posted April 4, 2022 cool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 4, 2022 All we have to do is rapidly redesign the power sector. That's it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,576 Posted April 4, 2022 50 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: cool "Cool" was 40 years ago. Now it's "warm". Please keep up. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,690 Posted April 4, 2022 1988: World’s Leading Climate Expert Predicts Lower Manhattan Underwater by 2018 2005: Fifty Million Climate Refugees by the Year 2020 2000: Snowfalls Are Now a Thing of the Past 1989: UN Warns That Entire Nations Wiped Off the Face of the Earth by 2000 From Global Warming 2011: Washington Post Predicted Cherry Blossoms Blooming in Winter 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted April 4, 2022 Are you guys really so sure this is all a hoax? I mean, if you’re wrong, doesn’t that mean annihilation or something darn close to it? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,613 Posted April 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Are you guys really so sure this is all a hoax? I mean, if you’re wrong, doesn’t that mean annihilation or something darn close to it? What is the temperature of the planet supposed to be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[echo] 82 Posted April 4, 2022 1 minute ago, posty said: What is the temperature of the planet supposed to be? hot'ish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,410 Posted April 4, 2022 I'm not a Climate Change denier. YES there is man made climate change, but it's in the form of geoengineering / weather manipulation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,220 Posted April 4, 2022 Just now, IGotWorms said: Are you guys really so sure this is all a hoax? I mean, if you’re wrong, doesn’t that mean annihilation or something darn close to it? No it doesn't. The earth, and man, have been extremely adaptable to a changing environment for millions of years. And, while man certainly is contributing to the change currently occurring, the extent of man's contribution is unknown. Much of these doomsday predictions are based upon computer modeling and do you know how many times their computer models have been right? Exactly zero so far. But we should upend our entire economy and civilization based upon faulty computer modeling? Not me. And the IPCC has been caught flat out lieing about this issue, with chunks of their reports debunked or disavowed by the very scientists they say signed off on it. Should we try to be better stewards of the planet we live on? Sure. But it's a balance. Like most things, this is a complicated issue and as long as the people in charge of moving it forward are politicians it's gonna be hard to get a lot of us on board with the revolution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Are you guys really so sure this is all a hoax? I mean, if you’re wrong, doesn’t that mean annihilation or something darn close to it? Wrong about what, exactly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,690 Posted April 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Are you guys really so sure this is all a hoax? I mean, if you’re wrong, doesn’t that mean annihilation or something darn close to it? World Wide 2020 was our warmest year on record yet our emission drop was the the largest since WWII. I have faith in technology. Global warming is not a revolution it should be an evolution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,410 Posted April 4, 2022 If anything, this planet is way too cold 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted April 4, 2022 I can recall being pretty scared when they said this in 1977 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted April 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Wrong about what, exactly? Wrong to blow off warnings like in the OP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,690 Posted April 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Wrong to blow off warnings like in the OP 22 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: 1988: World’s Leading Climate Expert Predicts Lower Manhattan Underwater by 2018 2005: Fifty Million Climate Refugees by the Year 2020 2000: Snowfalls Are Now a Thing of the Past 1989: UN Warns That Entire Nations Wiped Off the Face of the Earth by 2000 From Global Warming 2011: Washington Post Predicted Cherry Blossoms Blooming in Winter Was it wrong to believe these warnings? Yes 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,576 Posted April 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Are you guys really so sure this is all a hoax? I mean, if you’re wrong, doesn’t that mean annihilation or something darn close to it? 5 minutes ago, Strike said: No it doesn't. The earth, and man, have been extremely adaptable to a changing environment for millions of years. And, while man certainly is contributing to the change currently occurring, the extent of man's contribution is unknown. Much of these doomsday predictions are based upon computer modeling and do you know how many times their computer models have been right? Exactly zero so far. But we should upend our entire economy and civilization based upon faulty computer modeling? Not me. And the IPCC has been caught flat out lieing about this issue, with chunks of their reports debunked or disavowed by the very scientists they say signed off on it. Should we try to be better stewards of the planet we live on? Sure. But it's a balance. Like most things, this is a complicated issue and as long as the people in charge of moving it forward are politicians it's gonna be hard to get a lot of us on board with the revolution. Great answer. I'll add to it that until the fear mongerers embrace actual solutions (natural gas to reduce overall emissions, nuclear to eliminate them) instead of solutions designed to punish humankind (wind, solar, things which are nowhere near ready to support a power infrastructure) I'm going to presume they are like any bureaucracy: they will do what they can to grow their power and influence. Ask yourself: can you envision a report from the IPCC which intimates in any way "hey, we've made some good progress, let's keep it up!" Nope. It would be like hiring a DEI person, and that person deciding that the company's policies are already good. Ain't gonna happen, because that person would "report" themselves out of a job. We'll have viable nuclear fusion in some of our lifetimes: virtually unlimited power with no emissions. It will be interesting to see how the climate bureaucracy works to prevent it. Because they will. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Wrong to blow off warnings like in the OP Not sure how my blowing off a warning has an effect on anything. You're basically blowing off the same warning if you use the same fossil fuels I do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,243 Posted April 5, 2022 19 hours ago, IGotWorms said: Wrong to blow off warnings like in the OP Let me know when the people who push this nonsense are worried. Then I’ll worry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 5, 2022 38 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Let me know when the people who push this nonsense are worried. Then I’ll worry. They are 100% worried about the people who don't buy their nonsense. How much of a cash grab did they get under Obammy? What progress in alternative energy did those billions buy? Dumb libs wanna do it again. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,203 Posted April 5, 2022 41 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Let me know when the people who push this nonsense are worried. Then I’ll worry. I don't doubt that they're genuinely worried. I take them at face value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,243 Posted April 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Voltaire said: I don't doubt that they're genuinely worried. I take them at face value. Really? Is that why they all own branch front mansions and fly private jets everywhere? It’s about the peons reducing our sh1t so they can do whatever they want Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,203 Posted April 5, 2022 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Really? Is that why they all own branch front mansions and fly private jets everywhere? It’s about the peons reducing our sh1t so they can do whatever they want No, its that they don't recognize the hypocrisy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted April 5, 2022 Feels like a fine time to revive this classic. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,220 Posted November 22, 2023 Just throwing this here: https://phys.org/news/2023-11-world-richest-emit-carbon-bottom.html 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,104 Posted November 22, 2023 6 hours ago, Strike said: Just throwing this here: https://phys.org/news/2023-11-world-richest-emit-carbon-bottom.html Damn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted November 22, 2023 Didn't the Dems say the World was going to end in 2022 if we didn't do something. I think I'm still here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,715 Posted November 22, 2023 7 hours ago, Strike said: Just throwing this here: https://phys.org/news/2023-11-world-richest-emit-carbon-bottom.html They aren’t selling their beachfront property either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,086 Posted November 22, 2023 "I can very confidently assert, there is NO climate emergency." “As much as it may upset many people, my message is the planet is NOT in peril. … atmospheric CO2 and methane have negligible effect on the climate. The policies government have been implementing are total unnecessary and should be eliminated. So far, [we] have totally misidentified what is the dominant process in controlling the climate, and all of the various models are based on incomplete and incorrect physics. The dominant process, is “the cloud-sunlight-reflexivity thermostat mechanism. Clouds are all bright white, and they reflected 90% of the sunlight back into space making them the most crucial yet most overlooked aspect of the climate system. Two-thirds of the Earth are ocean. The Pacific Ocean alone is half the Earth. The average cloud cover for the Earth is 67%; about 50% over land and 75% over oceans. I claim that the above conspicuous properties of clouds are the missing part of the puzzle. I can very confidently assert, there is no climate emergency." JOHN CLAUSER, 2022 PHYSICS NOBEL PRIZE WINNER: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,843 Posted November 22, 2023 Oy Vey send in your tax dollars so the government can change the weather. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,086 Posted November 22, 2023 Just now, Cdub100 said: Oy Vey send in your tax dollars so the government can change the weather. It’s their religion it’s a sickness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted November 22, 2023 The arrogance of people to assume they can control climate is just....remarkable.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,690 Posted November 22, 2023 Earth heats up due to pandemic’s cleaner air, study finds Earth spiked a bit of a fever in 2020, partly because of cleaner air from the pandemic lockdown, a new study found. For a short time, temperatures in some places in the eastern United States, Russia and China were as much as half to two-thirds of a degree (.3 to .37 degrees Celsius) warmer. That’s due to less soot and sulfate particles from car exhaust and burning coal, which normally cool the atmosphere temporarily by reflecting the sun’s heat, Tuesday’s study in the journal Geophysical Research Letters reported. https://myfox8.com/news/earth-heats-up-due-to-pandemics-cleaner-air-study-finds/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,494 Posted November 22, 2023 I'd be willing to bet that the people who b!tch about global warming have a bigger carbon footprint than those who don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted November 24, 2023 On 11/22/2023 at 12:16 PM, iam90sbaby said: I'd be willing to bet that the people who b!tch about global warming have a bigger carbon footprint than those who don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 547 Posted November 30, 2023 On 11/22/2023 at 1:27 AM, Strike said: Just throwing this here: https://phys.org/news/2023-11-world-richest-emit-carbon-bottom.html Sure, but take their money and spread it around and people who currently don’t pollute would start to. Shoot, I’m a 1 percenter according to that article. I think I’m gonna go jump on a flight just to flex! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted November 30, 2023 On 4/4/2022 at 3:15 PM, IGotWorms said: Are you guys really so sure this is all a hoax? I mean, if you’re wrong, doesn’t that mean annihilation or something darn close to it? I might suggest that the cliamte is ever-changing.....and the reason humans are here today with out success has been our ability to adapt to the ever-changing environment. I think this notion that we can control climate is hubris. Could we be better stewards? Absolutely.....but there is little distinction to be found between our current crop of "end is neigh" and those of the past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted November 30, 2023 On 4/4/2022 at 3:15 PM, IGotWorms said: Are you guys really so sure this is all a hoax? I mean, if you’re wrong, doesn’t that mean annihilation or something darn close to it? Greta said we'd all be dead by now. Perhaps Liberals shouldn't get their advice from a hell bent Autistic Kid?? Just saying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites