Hardcore troubadour 12,660 Posted July 9, 2022 Just now, Mike Honcho said: Or maybe they are doing it because they agreed to sell for a price, they have done what he wants, provided the information he wants and now they want their money. It's hysterical that you guys aren't considering that part of the equation. Aren't considering that Musk got cold feet, didn't want to take on this amount of debt, saw that it was affecting the price of Tesla stock and is using any excuse he can make to get out of the deal. That’s possible. It’s also possible they have been committing fraud and he discovered it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,184 Posted July 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Or maybe they are doing it because they agreed to sell for a price, they have done what he wants, provided the information he wants and now they want their money. It's hysterical that you guys aren't considering that part of the equation. Aren't considering that Musk got cold feet, didn't want to take on this amount of debt, saw that it was affecting the price of Tesla stock and is using any excuse he can make to get out of the deal. They are blinded into this idea that Musk is now some hardcore conservative who is taking down the liberal establishment of Twitter. Rich people have some weird hold on them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,660 Posted July 9, 2022 26 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: It’s weird how centrists like Mooney and Honcho were upset that a centrist like Musk was buying Twitter. Sometimes I think they may not be centrists. Who thought he was conservative? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,660 Posted July 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: They are blinded into this idea that Musk is now some hardcore conservative who is taking down the liberal establishment of Twitter. Rich people have some weird hold on them. Yeah. All the rich people are conservatives. Lol. You really have your pulse on the country, kid. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,184 Posted July 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yeah. All the rich people are conservatives. Lol. You really have your pulse on the country, kid. Where did I say all rich people are conservatives? I enjoy you being wrong but have no idea what you get out of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,660 Posted July 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: Where did I say all rich people are conservatives? I enjoy you being wrong but have no idea what you get out of it. “Rich people have some kind of hold on them”. Could you kindly attempt to keep up with the bullshit you spew? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,564 Posted July 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: They are blinded into this idea that Musk is now some hardcore conservative who is taking down the liberal establishment of Twitter. Rich people have some weird hold on them. No. He's as he describes himself ... a moderate who stood still while the left went overboard looney. Everybody is a hardcore conservative to the freakshow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,184 Posted July 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Voltaire said: No. He's as he describes himself ... a moderate who stood still while the left went overboard looney. Everybody is a hardcore conservative to the freakshow. Well if he says so..... In reality- he's an opportunist. He will go whichever way the wind blows if it makes him more money. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,564 Posted July 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Well if he says so..... In reality- he's an opportunist. He will go whichever way the wind blows if it makes him more money. I hope he's doing the right things for the right reasons. But even if he's doing the right things for the wrong reasons... as long as the right thing gets done, it's fine. Twitter can only improve with his involvement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,184 Posted July 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: “Rich people have some kind of hold on them”. Could you kindly attempt to keep up with the bullshit you spew? Thanks Yes...but that does not translate to "All rich people are conservatives" no matter how much you try to make it happen. Wake up and go back to sleep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,660 Posted July 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: Yes...but that does not translate to "All rich people are conservatives" no matter how much you try to make it happen. Wake up and go back to sleep. You directed it at conservatives. You suck at conversation. It’s mainly your ego thats the problem. I always found mediocre people with big egos hard to understand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,184 Posted July 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You directed it at conservatives. You suck at conversation. It’s mainly your ego thats the problem. I always found mediocre people with big egos hard to understand. Keep yelling "squirrel" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,039 Posted July 9, 2022 52 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: That’s possible. It’s also possible they have been committing fraud and he discovered it. If he discovered it, then he would say that instead of "they aren't giving me the paperwork I requested". Pretty much what I said last month, he's fishing for reason possible to get out of the deal. Which I think is smart, cause twitter is a lost cause. He should pay the 1B penalty and be happy that's all it cost him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted July 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said: A centrist has to like a rich person manipulating stock prices and screwing people out of retirement funds? Interesting.... Well you love how biden is doing he’s not manipulating prices twitters price is devalued because they don’t have as many users as they claim. Seems like good business to me. But I doubt you know anything about business anyways. FYI Twitter is down just like every other stock thanks to your boy biden the centrist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,184 Posted July 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Well you love how biden is doing he’s not manipulating prices twitters price is devalued because they don’t have as many users as they claim. Seems like good business to me. But I doubt you know anything about business anyways. FYI Twitter is down just like every other stock thanks to your boy biden the centrist Whatever you have to tell yourself pal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted July 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Whatever you have to tell yourself pal. I dont have to tell myself anything those are facts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted July 9, 2022 34 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I dont have to tell myself anything those are facts It is so completely ignorant to blame Biden on why the market has fallen, and I hate Biden, but it's much more complex than that. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,660 Posted July 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, vomit said: It is so completely ignorant to blame Biden on why the market has fallen, and I hate Biden, but it's much more complex than that. He was taking credit when it went up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,802 Posted July 9, 2022 48 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Well you love how biden is doing he’s not manipulating prices twitters price is devalued because they don’t have as many users as they claim. Seems like good business to me. But I doubt you know anything about business anyways. FYI Twitter is down just like every other stock thanks to your boy biden the centrist Wait so is Twitter down because of Biden or is it down because they lied about how many users they have? It looks like their stock dropped a lot from Oct through Jan, so of those 2 seems like moreso Biden, as their current price is actually pretty close to what it was in January. It spiked after the news of Elon buying it in April, but then came back down, so I guess you could argue that was because they lied but it was probably a bit of an artificial increase to begin with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted July 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, vomit said: It is so completely ignorant to blame Biden on why the market has fallen, and I hate Biden, but it's much more complex than that. I am not only blaming biden, but I am sure you will just blame russia this administrations economic policies have had a negative affect on everything across the board Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted July 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Wait so is Twitter down because of Biden or is it down because they lied about how many users they have? It looks like their stock dropped a lot from Oct through Jan, so of those 2 seems like moreso Biden, as their current price is actually pretty close to what it was in January. It spiked after the news of Elon buying it in April, but then came back down, so I guess you could argue that was because they lied but it was probably a bit of an artificial increase to begin with. its a combination of both, economic policies from this administration, brought everything down, then Musk inflated it like you said and its leveled back off where it was. Mooney told us it was just a billionaire trying to manipulate prices and screw people out of their retirement Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,802 Posted July 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said: Well if he says so..... In reality- he's an opportunist. He will go whichever way the wind blows if it makes him more money. I don’t have a finance minor…how does Musk make money by Twitter’s stock tanking if he doesn’t actually buy the company? I used to think he was just trying to buy it for a lower price, but now it seems like he just wants out. But I think that could have just as much to do with recession fears as their user data. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted July 9, 2022 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I am not only blaming biden, but I am sure you will just blame russia this administrations economic policies have had a negative affect on everything across the board I blame the fed, but Biden hasn't helped. We'd be in the same boat with trump 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted July 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, vomit said: I blame the fed, but Biden hasn't helped. We'd be in the same boat with trump k sure we would we wouldn't be exporting fuel and shutting down pipelines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted July 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, vomit said: I blame the fed, but Biden hasn't helped. We'd be in the same boat with trump We literally wouldn't, what a stupid statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted July 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: k sure we would we wouldn't be exporting fuel and shutting down pipelines That didn't cause inflation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted July 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, Reality said: We literally wouldn't, what a stupid statement. We literally would, you're a retarded donkey 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted July 9, 2022 19 minutes ago, vomit said: That didn't cause inflation Putin did Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted July 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Putin did The fed did Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted July 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, vomit said: The fed did cause of Putin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted July 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: cause of Putin Stop being retarded 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,660 Posted July 9, 2022 So fuel Prices going way up doesn’t lead to inflation? This is just sad. Highly educated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted July 9, 2022 1 hour ago, vomit said: Stop being retarded You should tell Joe that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted July 9, 2022 On 4/28/2022 at 7:45 AM, MTSkiBum said: This is my first time posting in this thread. If musk's offer is 54.20 how come the stock price sits at 49.03? The DJIA has been on a downward trend and i think most people would expect that to continue. You could park money in twitter and be guaranteed ~10% once that deal is finalized. Is this entire deal fake? Is Musk just playing the crowds, why is the market giving up free money? The market knew this deal was never going to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted July 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: You should tell Joe that Joe is too senile to be retarded. He doesn't even know where he is anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted July 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: The market knew this deal was never going to happen. This happens with every public acquisition Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted July 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, vomit said: This happens with every public acquisition I assume you are being sarcastic? I don't remember a major acquisition that ends with the purchased entity suing the buyer. The Microsoft/blizzard Activision has potential though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted July 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: I assume you are being sarcastic? I don't remember a major acquisition that ends with the purchased entity suing the buyer. The Microsoft/blizzard Activision has potential though. No I mean the share discount vs the purchase price. It's greater when the public thinks the odds of completing the deal are lower. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,184 Posted July 10, 2022 19 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: its a combination of both, economic policies from this administration, brought everything down, then Musk inflated it like you said and its leveled back off where it was. Mooney told us it was just a billionaire trying to manipulate prices and screw people out of their retirement I never said it was "just" that. But that is a huge part of it. 16 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: k sure we would we wouldn't be exporting fuel and shutting down pipelines Here are some truths: Quote But environmental reviews by both the Obama and Trump administrations concluded that the Keystone XL pipeline would not have lowered gasoline prices. NRDC and its partners also found the majority of Keystone XL oil would have been sent to markets overseas—aided by a 2015 reversal of a ban on crude oil exports. This lines up with an industry trend: Oil and gas companies are exporting 8.4 million barrels of crude oil and refined fuels every single day. That’s up nearly threefold from a decade ago, and an amount equal to 42 percent of our consumption. And these exports are more than 10 times the capacity of the proposed Keystone XL pipeline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,660 Posted July 10, 2022 47 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: I never said it was "just" that. But that is a huge part of it. Here are some truths: Lowered it from when? When it was 3 dollars a gallon? Would be nice to know that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
