Twitter adopts 'poison pill' to prevent Elon Musk takeover

[nobody 2,687]

Apparently it is fact that Trump deliberately crippled the Post Office... lol

[TimHauck 2,901]

I actually think part 3 proves no government conspiracy

Here is proof Twitter reviewed the tweets that were sent by the government and did not delete them if they did not violate the TOS -

 

 

[TimHauck 2,901]

And this says their meeting with FBI occurred after the NY Post fiasco, to which they did not get “anything useful,” seeming to imply they were not warned about it in advance

 

 

[nobody 2,687]

I'm sure that's the case.  They just had weekly meetings of which Trump was the subject leading up to the election for fun.

[nobody 2,687]

Dude, they literally have screen shots of the dude saying he had weekly meetings with the FBI and DHS (and DNI apparently)

[Hardcore troubadour 15,481]

On 12/6/2022 at 8:52 PM, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s a conspiracy, and not in theory. You should smack yourself with a shovel if you can’t see it. The FBI and other GA’s strong armed Twitter and Facebook to suppress the laptop story, in violation of the first amendment.   

Yup

[TimHauck 2,901]

23 minutes ago, nobody said:

Dude, they literally have screen shots of the dude saying he had weekly meetings with the FBI and DHS (and DNI apparently)

And yet they didn’t necessarily do what they said

[Hardcore troubadour 15,481]

30 minutes ago, nobody said:

Dude, they literally have screen shots of the dude saying he had weekly meetings with the FBI and DHS (and DNI apparently)

They’ll believe anything.  They are stupid, and the democrats act accordingly. “We were just talking about our grandchildren on the tarmac after bumping into each other with our private planes”.  “There was just wedding plans and recipes in the 30k e-mails”.  “I got arrested trying to free Mandela “. 

[nobody 2,687]

I bet most people aren't familiar with the DNI.  They like it that way, but they are one of the most powerful entities in the world.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,118]

10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They’ll believe anything.  They are stupid, and the democrats act accordingly. “We were just talking about our grandchildren on the tarmac after bumping into each other with our private planes”.  “There was just wedding plans and recipes in the 30k e-mails”.  “I got arrested trying to free Mandela “. 

Won't even believe documented evidence.  That's why we call them "cultists".  

Jim Jones and David Koresh only wish they had non-thinking, religious zealots like the Democrats do.

[TimHauck 2,901]

6 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Won't even believe documented evidence.  That's why we call them "cultists".  

Jim Jones and David Koresh only wish they had non-thinking, religious zealots like the Democrats do.

“They had a meeting” isn’t documented evidence.  HTH

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,118]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

“They had a meeting” isn’t documented evidence.  HTH

Sure, thing, zealot. 

Is that what the DNC told you to say?

We actually have documented and scientific evidence of what a woman is yet your side of the aisle won't accept that either.  You guys think dudes are actually women if they say so. :

GTFO with your nonsense. You wouldn't believe a fact if it fell out of the sky, sat on your face and wiggled.

[TimHauck 2,901]

20 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Sure, thing, zealot. 

Is that what the DNC told you to say?

We actually have documented and scientific evidence of what a woman is yet your side of the aisle won't accept that either.  You guys think dudes are actually women if they say so. :

GTFO with your nonsense. You wouldn't believe a fact if it fell out of the sky, sat on your face and wiggled.

Cool whataboutism

[dogcows 1,030]

7 hours ago, jerryskids said:

What, did you think they were getting every email in the entire company?  Of course they are a subset.  That doesn't make it PR.  Let's see what the emails say.  

You will continue to see only the emails that Musk wants you to see, to promote the narrative he wants you to read.

If anybody wants to get into the actual facts without the spin, here’s a non-partisan tech site who gets pretty far into the nitty gritty.

https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/07/hello-youve-been-referred-here-because-youre-wrong-about-twitter-and-hunter-bidens-laptop/

I learned quite a bit from the above.

[jerryskids 6,820]

57 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

“They had a meeting” isn’t documented evidence.  HTH

They met about Trump.  Roth said so.  This is where people think you are on the spectrum.   

[jerryskids 6,820]

36 minutes ago, dogcows said:

You will continue to see only the emails that Musk wants you to see, to promote the narrative he wants you to read.

If anybody wants to get into the actual facts without the spin, here’s a non-partisan tech site who gets pretty far into the nitty gritty.

https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/07/hello-youve-been-referred-here-because-youre-wrong-about-twitter-and-hunter-bidens-laptop/

I learned quite a bit from the above.

Thanks.  So much wrong with this analysis though.  I'll start with this:

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To be clear, the decision by Twitter to do this was, in our estimation, pretty stupid. It was exactly what we had warned about just a month earlier regarding this exact policy. But this is the nature of trust & safety. People need to make very rapid decisions with very incomplete information. That’s why I’ve argued ever since then that while the policy was stupid, it was no giant scandal that it happened, and given everything, it was not a stretch to understand how it played out.

Also, importantly, the very next day Twitter realized it up, admitted so publicly, and changed the hacked materials policy saying that it would no longer block links to news sources based on this policy (though it might add a label to such stories). The next month, Jack Dorsey, in testifying before Congress, was pretty transparent about how all of this went down.

So, that means Twitter reinstalled NYP and put the tweet back up the next day, right?

Also, the entire discussion leading up to that uses the faulty logic of "Twitter had a policy so the FBI wasn't involved."  Those are not mutually exclusive.

 

[TimHauck 2,901]

I know this is about part 2 but just saw it

 

 

 

[jonmx 2,429]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I know this is about part 2 but just saw it

 

 

 

You pathetic bastards are hopeless.  You deny deny deny this crap is going on, and then when caught you admit of course it was done.  Take your Nazi censoring butt to Russia.  In America we value things like the freedom of people to express their opinions.  

[Raven Fan 362]

2 minutes ago, jonmx said:

You pathetic bastards are hopeless.  You deny deny deny this crap is going on, and then when caught you admit of course it was done.  Take your Nazi censoring butt to Russia.  In America we value things like the freedom of people to express their opinions.  

Weird, never heard you say a word about Murdoch buying and burying stories about Trump pre-16...also, is Twitter the sole source of news?  Are these stories not available anywhere else?

As with everything else you post, your Nazi comparison is moronic beyond belief and it wouldn't surprise me if you were a Nazi-loving pedo.

Please commit yourself you waste of human tissue.

[TimHauck 2,901]

6 minutes ago, jonmx said:

You pathetic bastards are hopeless.  You deny deny deny this crap is going on, and then when caught you admit of course it was done.  Take your Nazi censoring butt to Russia.  In America we value things like the freedom of people to express their opinions.  

So you think Portnoy is a nazi?

[jonmx 2,429]

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

So you think Portnoy is a nazi?

I think all authoritarians are brethren of the Nazis.  I know leftists like to divide authoritarians into a bunch of different groups to conflate things, but the reality is there are only two basic philosophies when it comes to governance, freedom and authoritarianism.  The modern leftists are firmly in the later group.

[TimHauck 2,901]

26 minutes ago, jonmx said:

You pathetic bastards are hopeless.  You deny deny deny this crap is going on, and then when caught you admit of course it was done.  Take your Nazi censoring butt to Russia.  In America we value things like the freedom of people to express their opinions.  

Just to be clear, you’re saying what’s been “caught” is twitter being biased, correct?  Not a government conspiracy?

[jonmx 2,429]

28 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Just to be clear, you’re saying what’s been “caught” is twitter being biased, correct?  Not a government conspiracy?

Oh there is plenty of involvement by the feds providing lists of people and posts they want removed.  They are also a platform and not a news organization, so they are obligated to be neutral and not be a political arm for a certain party.   They are a de facto public square.  

[TimHauck 2,901]

9 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Oh there is plenty of involvement by the feds providing lists of people and posts they want removed.  

Man you really are obsessed with those Hunter Biden d1ck pics huh?  

Last night’s release gave 2 more examples, one that they found did not violate the TOS (AKA no government conspiracy), the other which says it was proven false but the thread doesn’t even say what happened to the tweet

[Shooter McGavin 618]

23 minutes ago, jonmx said:

 They are also a platform and not a news organization, so they are obligated to be neutral and not be a political arm for a certain party. 

No they are not obligated to be neutral at all.  You simply don't understand how sh1t works.

[Raven Fan 362]

15 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Man you really are obsessed with those Hunter Biden d1ck pics huh?  

Last night’s release gave 2 more examples, one that they found did not violate the TOS (AKA no government conspiracy), the other which says it was proven false but the thread doesn’t even say what happened to the tweet

Why are you conversing with pedo-obsessed Jon like he's a normal person?  Do ANY of his posts give you that impression?  Treating him like he's almost normal instead of the disgusting, phuked up POS that he is only encourages and enables him.

Treat him like the societal pariah he is.  That's all he and people like him deserve. 

[dogcows 1,030]

9 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Thanks.  So much wrong with this analysis though.  I'll start with this:

So, that means Twitter reinstalled NYP and put the tweet back up the next day, right?

Also, the entire discussion leading up to that uses the faulty logic of "Twitter had a policy so the FBI wasn't involved."  Those are not mutually exclusive.

 

You can read in the article some testimony on exactly how the FBI was (and wasn’t) “involved” in such decisions. If you want to believe their involvement went beyond that, you’re doing so without direct evidence.

And as for the NY Post analysis, it includes a link with the specifics. They cancelled the “hacked materials policy” but they didn’t immediately reinstate the post because:

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As the new announcement notes, the policy against linking to private information or manipulated media remain in place — suggesting that this won’t actually change the ability to link to that NY Post article. But it does fix the hamfisted nature of that policy.

Which could explain them banning accounts that posted Hunter d!ck pics, but not why they kept the Post banned. I don’t disagree that it was a stupid move. What I disagree with is that there’s some cover-up about it that Musk supposedly revealed. We’ve learned nothing new about the situation, and the company admitted it screwed up years ago. But for some reason people (especially Musk who probably sees this as a way to get tons of right-wingers onto his site) still insist there’s some conspiracy involved. And yet, even with access to all Twitter’s internal communications, he hasn’t shown any.

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

At this point people are just going to see what they want to see in the "TwitterFiles." Dumb to argue over it at this point. Ain't nobody changing anyone's mind. 

[jerryskids 6,820]

51 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

At this point people are just going to see what they want to see in the "TwitterFiles." Dumb to argue over it at this point. Ain't nobody changing anyone's mind. 

I'm not saying we've seen some huge smoking gun, although the onion is still being peeled.  In fact I've said multiple times that I wouldn't expect an email from the FBI opening their kimono.  That doesn't mean it didn't happen, so maybe we are back to your "people gonna believe..." statement.  

But what we have confirmed is that Roth DIDN'T meet with the FBI and DIDN'T discuss Trump (wink, wink), that they were hesitant in naming the three-letter bureaus (perhaps corroborating my assertion that the FBI isn't that stupid to leave a smoking gun lying around), and that they had regular meetings with FBI, DHS, and DNI regarding election security and the Hunter laptop.

[Fireballer 2,642]

2 hours ago, Raven Fan said:

Weird, never heard you say a word about Murdoch buying and burying stories about Trump pre-16...also, is Twitter the sole source of news?  Are these stories not available anywhere else?

As with everything else you post, your Nazi comparison is moronic beyond belief and it wouldn't surprise me if you were a Nazi-loving pedo.

Please commit yourself you waste of human tissue.

How often did Murdoch buy and bury stories?  Just for  window of time in 2016?  Doesnt sound like a high enough frequency to be a true problem.

[TimHauck 2,901]

22 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I'm not saying we've seen some huge smoking gun, although the onion is still being peeled.  In fact I've said multiple times that I wouldn't expect an email from the FBI opening their kimono.  That doesn't mean it didn't happen, so maybe we are back to your "people gonna believe..." statement.  

But what we have confirmed is that Roth DIDN'T meet with the FBI and DIDN'T discuss Trump (wink, wink), that they were hesitant in naming the three-letter bureaus (perhaps corroborating my assertion that the FBI isn't that stupid to leave a smoking gun lying around), and that they had regular meetings with FBI, DHS, and DNI regarding election security and the Hunter laptop.

They most certainly did not confirm they had meetings regarding the Hunter laptop, unless you’re talking about afterwards (where twitter asked the FBI about it and were not given “anything useful”).  Agent Chan even denied he knew about it at all prior to the NY Post story.

And they didn’t seem all that hesitant to talk about meeting with the FBI amongst themselves, other than not titling calendar meetings “MEETING WITH FBI ABOUT TRUMP”

Like I said, show me some tweets the FBI requested to take down where Twitter complied that did not violate the TOS, and I’ll change my mind.  But so far all we have are Hunter d1ck pics and now evidence that twitter actually reviewed the tweets sent by the FBI to see if they actually violated the TOS.  

[nobody 2,687]

Dudes had weekly meetings with the FBI to talk about hunter dìck pics I guess.  The dude did sarcastically say they weren't about trump. So now we can be sure they never talked about trump.

I wonder if those meetings are still taking place.

[TimHauck 2,901]

3 minutes ago, nobody said:

Dudes had weekly meetings with the FBI to talk about hunter dìck pics I guess.  The dude did sarcastically say they weren't about trump. So now we can be sure they never talked about trump.

I wonder if those meetings are still taking place.

It sounds like the meetings were moreso about security from twitter themselves being hacked with occasional discussions about content (AKA we don’t know what they were really about so we can stop with the “documented evidence” BS).  Even the warning about the potential “Russian Hack and Leak operation” was not a demand, simply saying something to watch out for.

[nobody 2,687]

Just now, TimHauck said:

It sounds like the meetings were moreso about security from twitter themselves being hacked with occasional discussions about content (AKA we don’t know what they were really about so we can stop with the “documented evidence” BS).  Even the warning about the potential “Russian Hack and Leak operation” was not a demand, simply saying something to watch out for.

Yeah, let's go with that.  Can the rest of us talk about what was pretty obvious now?

[Reality 3,121]

It's amazing that any murderers are ever convicted, most of them don't admit it.

No amount of evidence will ever convince certain people, there's simply no point in having a back and forth. They are either extremely naive, very stupid, or so married to their political beliefs that they can't admit they were wrong.

It's blatantly obvious what was going on here, if you can't read between the lines, it's a you problem. 

[TimHauck 2,901]

5 minutes ago, nobody said:

Yeah, let's go with that.  Can the rest of us talk about what was pretty obvious now?

You are free to talk about what you think is obvious.  Just be clear with what you’re saying there is actually “documented evidence” of.

Like I posted earlier:

The GC:  there’s documented evidence of a 1st amendment violation!!!

Also the GC:  they don’t need evidence, it’s obvious!!! Occam’s razor!

[BuckSwope 654]

Neat board.   Thread locked and now the other thread disappears.    So much for this place being a fortress for free speech.    

[nobody 2,687]

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

You are free to talk about what you think is obvious.  Just be clear with what you’re saying there is actually “documented evidence” of.

Like I posted earlier:

The GC:  there’s documented evidence of a 1st amendment violation!!!

Also the GC:  they don’t need evidence, it’s obvious!!! Occam’s razor!

You've been heard.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356]

12 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Neat board.   Thread locked and now the other thread disappears.    So much for this place being a fortress for free speech.    

No . I’m so disappointed with this place right now

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356]

7 minutes ago, nobody said:

You've been heard.

They had weekly meetings 

Tim they were making golf arrangements