Christian McCaffrey

[craftsman 1,045]

10 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I’m curious what the list is of franchise QBs that never won a SB. Dan Marino is at the top. 

That would be a fun look at things but I'm guessing there would be a lot of bickering over who was considered a "frachise QB" vs. who wasn't. Marino is the easiest of all. 

[Bier Meister 1,710]

5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I’m curious what the list is of franchise QBs that never won a SB. Dan Marino is at the top. 

Moon

Fouts

kelley

Brunell

cunningham

 

[frank 2,305]

Just now, Bier Meister said:

Moon

Fouts

kelley

Brunell

cunningham

 

McNair

[Bier Meister 1,710]

Just now, frank said:

McNair

meh

[Hardcore troubadour 15,414]

8 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I’m curious what the list is of franchise QBs that never won a SB. Dan Marino is at the top. 

McNabb

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10 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I’m curious what the list is of franchise QBs that never won a SB. Dan Marino is at the top. 

Bernie Kosar 

[MDC 7,407]

Romo 

Boomer

Vick

Palmer

Culpepper

Rivers

Bledsoe

[WhiteWonder 2,734]

25 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I’m curious what the list is of franchise QBs that never won a SB. Dan Marino is at the top. 

I would have put Brady at the top but he won one in Tampa 

 

- Marino and Jim Kelly would be the top 2, imho. Also making the list, in no particular order....
- Rivers
- Moon
- Cunningham
- Ken Anderson
- Dan Fouts
- Tarkenton
- McNabb
- McNair
- Matt Ryan
- Vick
- Cam Newton
- Boomer Esiason
- Carson Palmer
- Tony Romo

 

My criteria was being a high draft pick OR clearly being groomed to take over the franchise.... AND playing with that initial team at least 5 seasons. If the guy was very clearly still a franchise type player on their 2nd or 3rd team as well, I counted them. 

 

[bostonlager 2,665]

7 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

I would have put Brady at the top but he won one in Tampa 

 

- Marino and Jim Kelly would be the top 2, imho. Also making the list, in no particular order....
- Rivers
- Moon
- Cunningham
- Ken Anderson
- Dan Fouts
- Tarkenton
- McNabb
- McNair
- Matt Ryan
- Vick
- Cam Newton
- Boomer Esiason
- Carson Palmer
- Tony Romo

 

My criteria was being a high draft pick OR clearly being groomed to take over the franchise.... AND playing with that initial team at least 5 seasons. If the guy was very clearly still a franchise type player on their 2nd or 3rd team as well, I counted them. 

 

Culpepper?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,414]

Danny White. 

[bostonlager 2,665]

Vinny Testeverde 

Steve Deberg

Jim Harbaughs

 

[KSB2424 3,148]

Panthers fan here.  49er fans,  You’ll love CMC, so fun to watch.  While I’m disappointed to lose him I don’t hate the trade as we are not in win now mode and thought the trade was fair compensation.  
 

 

[WhiteWonder 2,734]

17 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

Culpepper?

tough one. I suppose he did play 5-6 seasons for Minny but was he really any good? He was kind of awful in 2001 and 2002. 

I should have added in my criteria that they were also mostly good during their time as "franchise guys"

[Bier Meister 1,710]

18 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Panthers fan here.  49er fans,  You’ll love CMC, so fun to watch.  While I’m disappointed to lose him I don’t hate the trade as we are not in win now mode and thought the trade was fair compensation.  
 

 

we know him from stanford.... thank you

[craftsman 1,045]

11 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

tough one. I suppose he did play 5-6 seasons for Minny but was he really any good? He was kind of awful in 2001 and 2002. 

I should have added in my criteria that they were also mostly good during their time as "franchise guys"

At the start of a press conference Culpepper gave his huge "D" gold necklace medallion he was wearing to a kid in a wheel chair who was in the room.

The kid was ecstatic. Then after the press conference Culpepper went back to the kid to take it back. The kid and the dad were confused thinking he gave it to the kid. Culpepper said, "No. I was just letting you hold it for a little bit so you could experience what it's like to hold it."

[frank 2,305]

6 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

we know him from stanford.... thank you

Also, games are broadcast all over the world.

[shorepatrol 1,870]

2 minutes ago, frank said:

Also, games are broadcast all over the world.

Since when!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bier Meister 1,710]

7 minutes ago, frank said:

Also, games are broadcast all over the world.

:LOL:

 

CMC.... never heard of him

[KSB2424 3,148]

31 minutes ago, frank said:

Also, games are broadcast all over the world.

No shiot.  But do Niners fans watch every Panthers game?  I’d hope not @Bier Meister
 

I was trying to be nice.  You know what, your team got fleeced.  You just traded away your whole 2023 draft for an injury prone pretty boy Running Back (9 year shelf life for RB’s and he’s on year 7) who plays half a season but eats up huge salary.  Eat a Diick. Y’all are probably used to that, being in San Fran and all. 

[Bier Meister 1,710]

14 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

No shiot.  But do Niners fans watch every Panthers game?  I’d hope not @Bier Meister
 

I was trying to be nice.  You know what, your team got fleeced.  You just traded away your whole 2023 draft for an injury prone pretty boy Running Back (9 year shelf life for RB’s and he’s on year 7) who plays half a season but eats up huge salary.  Eat a Diick. Y’all are probably used to that, being in San Fran and all. 

 

Up until 3 years ago, i've had sunday ticket since 95.  I watch a lot of football and have owned CMC in leagues.  got to watch him when he was at stanford.  I am very aware of his talents, and injuries.  this is really the ultimate risk reward situation for SF and CMC. When he is healthy, he is arguably the best ff back in the game.  The 49ers are a perfect fit for him and vice versa.  

 

so sad resorting to gay jokes.  

[KSB2424 3,148]

50 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

When he is healthy, he is arguably the best ff back in the game.  

 

 

:LOL:

 

CMC…Never heard of him. 

[shorepatrol 1,870]

1 hour ago, KSB2424 said:

:LOL:

 

CMC…Never heard of him. 

Really? He's pretty popular in the fantasy football world. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Eat my  

[Bier Meister 1,710]

1 hour ago, KSB2424 said:

:LOL:

 

CMC…Never heard of him. 

That’s cute. You act as if nobody outside of Carolina knows who he is or history, then get butt hurt when it’s thrown back at you…. On a ff website.

sad

[KSB2424 3,148]

7 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

That’s cute. You act as if nobody outside of Carolina knows who he is or history, then get butt hurt when it’s thrown back at you…. On a ff website.

sad

I’m making fun of you dumbazz.  I copied your very own post.  Just scroll up. 

[craftsman 1,045]

10 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

That’s cute. You act as if nobody outside of Carolina knows who he is or history, then get butt hurt when it’s thrown back at you…. On a ff website.

sad

He did catch an absurd amount of passes in Carolina,, but he did only play a total of 10 total games in 2 years time. I bet SF doesn't feed him the ball as much as he was in Carolina.

[Bier Meister 1,710]

1 minute ago, KSB2424 said:

I’m making fun of you dumbazz.  I copied your very own post.  Just scroll up. 

I saw that.  You are not catching the irony of trying to “enlighten” us, when I likely knew about him before he was in carolina

[JustinCharge 2,397]

2 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

No shiot.  But do Niners fans watch every Panthers game?  I’d hope not @Bier Meister
 

I was trying to be nice.  You know what, your team got fleeced.  You just traded away your whole 2023 draft for an injury prone pretty boy Running Back (9 year shelf life for RB’s and he’s on year 7) who plays half a season but eats up huge salary.  Eat a Diick. Y’all are probably used to that, being in San Fran and all. 

that escalated quickly

[Bier Meister 1,710]

21 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

that escalated quickly

yeah.  it's too bad. i like him

[KSB2424 3,148]

25 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

that escalated quickly

i was nice at first, but mess with the bull and you'll get the horns. 

San Fran folks won't get that simile, its way to masculine. 

 

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

McNabb

That’s a pretty good one.

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

4 hours ago, WhiteWonder said:

I would have put Brady at the top but he won one in Tampa 

 

- Marino and Jim Kelly would be the top 2, imho. Also making the list, in no particular order....
- Rivers
- Moon
- Cunningham
- Ken Anderson
- Dan Fouts
- Tarkenton
- McNabb
- McNair
- Matt Ryan
- Vick
- Cam Newton
- Boomer Esiason
- Carson Palmer
- Tony Romo

 

My criteria was being a high draft pick OR clearly being groomed to take over the franchise.... AND playing with that initial team at least 5 seasons. If the guy was very clearly still a franchise type player on their 2nd or 3rd team as well, I counted them. 

 

I would agree with most of those, especially Moon, Cunningham, Vick and Ryan. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

A franchise QB first and foremost must be accurate IMO.  They also need to be football smart.  Its very nice to have a strong arm to make all the throws like the short out pattern and flick it 80 yards with little effort.  Also leadership skills (meaning they arent showing up late to meetings and being irresponsible in general).  Also tall. 

 

A lot of QBs that have all of this but they have a noodle arm are backups because its just too easy to scheme against them when the QB cant take the top off the defense.  Thats why when you look at Zappe, you are worried about his arm strength.  

the most terrifying QB in the NFL is Mahomes because he goes beyond all of this and he can also absolutely murder you when they play breaks down and he is chased from the pocket and then throws a dime to someone 40 yards downfield with a crossbody or underarm throw.  

[edjr 6,580]

Not sure how I feel about this. Ask me in a couple weeks

[Reality 3,121]

You can always tell the fans who root for losing organizations. When you have an absolutely stacked squad who is in win now mode and you can add a phenomenal talent like McCaffrey,  you do it, and figure out everything else later.

The move was an absolute no brainer, give him a few weeks and he'll be absolutely lethal in SF's offense.

[edjr 6,580]

On 10/21/2022 at 6:25 PM, KSB2424 said:

Panthers fan here.  49er fans,  You’ll love CMC, so fun to watch.  While I’m disappointed to lose him I don’t hate the trade as we are not in win now mode. 
 

 

Tell that to the team.  Dummies

[TimHauck 2,858]

Damn Panthers ruining the tank plan

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

On 10/21/2022 at 6:14 PM, bostonlager said:

Culpepper?

 

On 10/21/2022 at 6:17 PM, bostonlager said:

Vinny Testeverde 

Steve Deberg

Jim Harbaughs

 

I think these guys all fall into the category of, "not good enough to be considered a franchise QB, even though they were expected to be".

[iam90sbaby 2,610]

14 hours ago, Reality said:

You can always tell the fans who root for losing organizations. When you have an absolutely stacked squad who is in win now mode and you can add a phenomenal talent like McCaffrey,  you do it, and figure out everything else later.

The move was an absolute no brainer, give him a few weeks and he'll be absolutely lethal in SF's offense.

3-4

[Reality 3,121]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

3-4

I believe they started 2-5 last year, that worked out fine. HTH

[craftsman 1,045]

2 minutes ago, Reality said:

I believe they started 2-5 last year, that worked out fine. HTH

He had 10 touches for 62 yards yesterday. That's not bad as is. 

He won't get the amount of load that he had in Carolina. Definitely more receptions than 2. That's where he may pay off, but SF doesn't want to kill the guy. Hell Wilson had 7 rushes for 54 yards. The rushing won't be the issue. McCaffrey will open up more options for SF in that offense. That will be his biggest asset to them. 

But still, they got their ass kicked against KC. That can't make them feel very good about their McCaffrey debut.