2022 Midterm Elections

[BuckSwope 654]

1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said:

"Kids are being mutilated" is just one of those far-right fear-mongering phrases they repeat until they actually think millions of kids are having their genitals hacked to pieces by Art the Clown from Terrifier. 

They do the same thing with voter fraud.

Sex-change operations for juveniles 16 to 18 is almost non-existent, and there wasn't even close to being enough 2020 election shenanigans to change the outcome, but their go-to fallback position is "I can't believe Biden got 81 million votes," despite record voter registration and turnout in perhaps the most hotly contested presidential election in U.S. history.

 

The concern for all of us it seems is even those almost non-existent cases.    That said, I have 0 clue why they largely choose to go to the most extreme terms like mutilated, hacked up, or butchers.   It's not hard to show stats to people and rationally discuss your concerns about the spike in cases and the number of permanent procedures administered to minors.   

Stop using the most extreme terms, stop calling a teacher that might be trying their best and directing them to info groomers and pedos, and stop calling family and friends supporting these people evil, and people just might listen to your concerns.  

Sorry, people don't want to listen to the crazy old dude foaming at the mouth screaming on the street corner.   That's basically what this rhetoric starts to sound like.  

[Reality 3,121]

1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said:

MAGAtards keep banging that "mutilating kids" bell, but could someone post a link to kids actually getting mutilated?

Everything I've read is that there are some very rare examples of sexual-reassignment surgery between ages 16 and 18.

This just sounds like DeShittis-fueled MAGAtard catastrophizing, like they do about myriad other alt-right media squawking and fear-mongering points.

 

 

[OldMaid 2,134]

Who is Christina Buttons and why should we trust what she says? Also, if you click the link for the story, Twitter warns that it may be unsafe?  

[jerryskids 6,961]

1 hour ago, BuckSwope said:

That I don't know.   When I just looked, I didn't see anything that stood out as far as a %.    I think one read that the majority are out of pocket, but that is slowly changing as more and more start to cover these procedures.   I also noted no bottom surgeries were listed in the article, so that is also an element that needs to be thought about.   

The little I've read pointed to some of these things in bold being reversible.  I'm not an expert or anything.  

But yes, anybody that doesn't at least discuss and acknowledge the spike in cases and try to think about why isn't being honest.   I think it's a mix of what you suggested + more acceptance + more knowledge about the diagnoses.  What the ratio of that mix is, I don't know, but I think that jump from 25K GD diagnoses to 42K in a year needs to be at least talked about.   Is it that crazy to suggest that at least some of that was kids sitting at home during covid and either have more time to get introduced to the idea?  Maybe it was easier to come out virtually during that time?  Less time given for a proper diagnoses, since the doctor visits could largely have virtual too?     

We've been through a lot of this before you got here so I don't want to rehash it.  I'll just say that I agree that the mix is unknown, but people in authority would have us believe that there is no mix, and any discussion of phenomena like rapid onset gender dysphoria is shot down/banned in social media.  So we can't have that conversation that you think is being prevented solely by scary words; rather, we can't have it at all.

I also find it beyond reason to think you can interrupt a developing person's hormones during puberty and fill it with the opposite sex hormones, then some time later decide to go back and it will be as if nothing ever happened.  Does that make sense to you?  If so, we can agree to disagree.

[Reality 3,121]

4 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Who is Christina Buttons and why should we trust what she says? Also, if you click the link for the story, Twitter warns that it may be unsafe?  

Link to the study.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2797439

[jerryskids 6,961]

3 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Who is Christina Buttons and why should we trust what she says? Also, if you click the link for the story, Twitter warns that it may be unsafe?  

As if on cue for my last post... it is unsafe because it is from DailyWire and does what I just described -- attempts to provide info contrary to the woke position on this.  It falls under this bullet in the list:

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• violent or misleading content that could lead to real-world harm

Twitter just doesn't want you to get informed.  I clicked it, it is fine.   

[OldMaid 2,134]

Well, except for the fact that the entirety of the article seems to require a subscription, so, I’m not sure what the whole article says.  Can’t say I’m any more informed than I was before.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 hour ago, Reality said:

 

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[JustinCharge 2,397]

I have to admire the Yahoo! news headline for its gall.

As GOP nurses its midterms wounds, talk turns to Trump

"talk TURNS to Trump?" As if the media hasn't been trying to smear Trump hourly for 8 years lol.

[Fireballer 2,663]

3 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

The concern for all of us it seems is even those almost non-existent cases.    That said, I have 0 clue why they largely choose to go to the most extreme terms like mutilated, hacked up, or butchers.   It's not hard to show stats to people and rationally discuss your concerns about the spike in cases and the number of permanent procedures administered to minors.   

Stop using the most extreme terms, stop calling a teacher that might be trying their best and directing them to info groomers and pedos, and stop calling family and friends supporting these people evil, and people just might listen to your concerns.  

Sorry, people don't want to listen to the crazy old dude foaming at the mouth screaming on the street corner.   That's basically what this rhetoric starts to sound like.  

You think its fair to call castration and mastectomies "gender affirming care"? Sounds warm and fuzzy, eh?

[TimHauck 3,128]

1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said:

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@Reality is a giant doosh, but it was in JAMA, so seems legit.  Here’s an article in Medscape - https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/982554

The thing I’m confused about from the study is apparently the 1,130 is a “weighted estimate.”  The unweighted number was 829.  And that’s over a 4 year period, so I would still say that’s “not widespread.”  Also keep in mind this is basically just plastic surgery, so while I disagree with this, it’s not effecting their ability to reproduce, and it is also not “an experimental surgery that we don’t know the long-term effects of!”

No clue why it would be covered by insurance though…

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,713]

It’s not widespread. Nothing to be concerned about. BTW, those of you that make light of these things? Yeah, you’re not men. Just males. 

[BuckSwope 654]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s not widespread. Nothing to be concerned about. BTW, those of you that make light of these things? Yeah, you’re not men. Just males. 

It's not widespread (my assumption is you are talking about the surgeries themselves), but it is something to be concerned about.    

[BuckSwope 654]

5 hours ago, Fireballer said:

You think its fair to call castration and mastectomies "gender affirming care"? Sounds warm and fuzzy, eh?

They are under the umbrella of gender affirming care, but I usually just see them referred to as top and bottom surgeries.   It's not uncommon for that to happen - e.g. having abortions under "maternal care" or something like that.   We know what they are talking about.  

[Fireballer 2,663]

10 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

They are under the umbrella of gender affirming care, but I usually just see them referred to as top and bottom surgeries.   It's not uncommon for that to happen - e.g. having abortions under "maternal care" or something like that.   We know what they are talking about.  

Ok, let me make sure I follow...its OK to use terms that soften the sound of whats happening, but we cant use the actual term for the procedure?

[BuckSwope 654]

30 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Ok, let me make sure I follow...its OK to use terms that soften the sound of whats happening, but we cant use the actual term for the procedure?

You can use whatever term you want.  Mastectomy is accurate.   Butcher, mutilation, etc are usually the terms thrown around and that is what i am talking about.  You are free to use them too, just expressing my opinion how it comes off, and how people are probably going to tune you out despite having legit concerns. 

[Shooter McGavin 618]

40 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Ok, let me make sure I follow...its OK to use terms that soften the sound of whats happening, but we cant use the actual term for the procedure?

Do you call circumcision mutilation as well?  What about a vasectomy?

[Raven Fan 362]

How great were these midterms?  Complete repudiation of the party of Trump and its lying about inflation being Biden's fault, its lying about Biden ruining America's energy production, and its laser sharp focus on cultural war issues motivated by their general ignorance and fear of some sky daddy.

2024 is going to be an even worse result for Rs as they thrust Trump forward again like the last 4 election losses due to him will suddenly reverse course.  And Ds will be working from a strong economy, inflation under control, a unified NATO, and a humiliated Russia.  

Thank god Biden has restored America's place as leader of the free world. 

[Masshole 642]

So the guy who's the son of a life-time dem party high level apparatchik starts a ponzi scheme crypto company and becomes the 2nd largest individual donor to the democratic party this past election cycle, 2nd only to Soros.  Donates almost $40M to dems this cycle (and no one else).   Ukraine is one of the countries in the world that has the highest frequency of crypto usage and there's lots of indications that Ukraine was laundering and funneling $ back to the dems through and from this crypto company.     And remarkably all of this breaks just after the election so that this info will have no impact on the elections, of course.   

And the general response from MSM - yawn/crickets.    Only WSJ and a few righty news outlets are reporting it as anything other than a failed crypto company.     I try not to do the "imagine if this was Trump/repubs" route too much - but for christ sake - can you imagine if this was a republican admin and Ronna McDaniel's chief lawyer's son did this?    What do you think the attention level would be?   I'm going to go out on a limb and say it would be just slightly more than it is now - like "24/7 news cycle for months on end on MSNBC & CNN" slightly more.  

What do you think the chances are that this guy "commits suicide" within the next 12 months?    Hillary says it's "pretty close to 100%".    

[RLLD 4,275]

I do lament that without a suitable slap the Biden will continue doing the things that have inflamed inflation and it could very well be true that next year is a tough one for the least fortunate among us.

It might be that people have not suffered enough to change their votes. There is little doubt that Biden and the Dems  will pour it on more now

[Hardcore troubadour 15,713]

1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Do you call circumcision mutilation as well?  What about a vasectomy?

So weak. Shutup 

[TimHauck 3,128]

46 minutes ago, Masshole said:

and there's lots of indications that Ukraine was laundering and funneling $ back to the dems through and from this crypto company.     

No there’s not.  You guys will believe anything huh.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he actually commits suicide or he “commits suicide,” he likely stole a crap ton of money so I am sure there are a lot of people that are pissed at him. I don’t really follow the MSM much but this has been a pretty big story. Have seen several comparisons to Enron.  It’s just not a political story so I don’t buy that the coverage would be much different if he had donated to Republicans instead of Democrats, but we’ll never know.

[Raven Fan 362]

24 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I do lament that without a suitable slap the Biden will continue doing the things that have inflamed inflation and it could very well be true that next year is a tough one for the least fortunate among us.

It might be that people have not suffered enough to change their votes. There is little doubt that Biden and the Dems  will pour it on more now

Yet Biden will end up spending less than Trump in 4 years I'll wager and the deficit is down in 22 vs 21 and 20.  Plus the very fact that Biden is letting the Fed do its work to curb inflation is hugely significant given how we've seen other, less stable, presidents act.

I'll wager one year from now the country will be sitting in a much better position economically and Russia will either be defeated or simply trying to hold on to what little land they are still able to hold.  The country seems to agree with me based on the mid-term results. 

[Reality 3,121]

1 hour ago, Masshole said:

So the guy who's the son of a life-time dem party high level apparatchik starts a ponzi scheme crypto company and becomes the 2nd largest individual donor to the democratic party this past election cycle, 2nd only to Soros.  Donates almost $40M to dems this cycle (and no one else).   Ukraine is one of the countries in the world that has the highest frequency of crypto usage and there's lots of indications that Ukraine was laundering and funneling $ back to the dems through and from this crypto company.     And remarkably all of this breaks just after the election so that this info will have no impact on the elections, of course.   

And the general response from MSM - yawn/crickets.    Only WSJ and a few righty news outlets are reporting it as anything other than a failed crypto company.     I try not to do the "imagine if this was Trump/repubs" route too much - but for christ sake - can you imagine if this was a republican admin and Ronna McDaniel's chief lawyer's son did this?    What do you think the attention level would be?   I'm going to go out on a limb and say it would be just slightly more than it is now - like "24/7 news cycle for months on end on MSNBC & CNN" slightly more.  

What do you think the chances are that this guy "commits suicide" within the next 12 months?    Hillary says it's "pretty close to 100%".    

Odd...

 

[MDC 7,652]

This is a fun watch if you think Tucker is a kunt. Basically he says the Republicans didn’t lose because of Roe or bad candidates. They lost because of media bias and mail in voting.

You can see him trying to hold back the angry tears.  

 

 

[BuckSwope 654]

28 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So weak. Shutup 

So that's probably a no.  I'd Hazzard a guess people also don't call people who do other mastectomy procedures butchers or committing mutilation on people.   No, it's just used when people think something is wrong, and instead of talking to people resort to to extreme terms to try to convince people of their point and shame them if they don't agree. 

Just about everybody I've interacted with about this have similar concerns about if these kids are getting proper help and are concerned about permanent changes in minors.  Hell, even the parents of a couple trans kids I know.  

Just curious what people think they are accomplishing by calling people butchers and telling people they are mutilating and hurting loved ones? 

[TimHauck 3,128]

10 minutes ago, Reality said:

Odd...

 

It’s odd that a billionaire (at the time) would donate to politicians he thought would help him get more rich in the future?  Not like that already hasn’t been happening for decades… Dumbass

[Raven Fan 362]

5 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

So that's probably a no.  I'd Hazzard a guess people also don't call people who do other mastectomy procedures butchers or committing mutilation on people.   No, it's just used when people think something is wrong, and instead of talking to people resort to to extreme terms to try to convince people of their point and shame them if they don't agree. 

Just about everybody I've interacted with about this have similar concerns about if these kids are getting proper help and are concerned about permanent changes in minors.  Hell, even the parents of a couple trans kids I know.  

Just curious what people think they are accomplishing by calling people butchers and telling people they are mutilating and hurting loved ones? 

Conservatives appeal to emotions since that's what their primary motivation is.  Fear of hell.  Fear of non-whites.  Fear of change.  Fear of education.  Etc.

Basically they're motivated by fear. 

[Mike Honcho 5,345]

13 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

MAGAtards keep banging that "mutilating kids" bell, but could someone post a link to kids actually getting mutilated?

Everything I've read is that there are some very rare examples of sexual-reassignment surgery between ages 16 and 18.

This just sounds like DeShittis-fueled MAGAtard catastrophizing, like they do about myriad other alt-right media squawking and fear-mongering points.

 

They aren't very good at math...
 

 

[jerryskids 6,961]

10 hours ago, OldMaid said:

Well, except for the fact that the entirety of the article seems to require a subscription, so, I’m not sure what the whole article says.  Can’t say I’m any more informed than I was before.

Comes up fine for me and I don't have a subscription.  Here is the text; there are graphs in the link as well.

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New Data Emerges Of 1,100+ Adolescent ‘Gender Affirming’ Mastectomies

By  Christina Buttons

•

Nov 11, 2022   DailyWire.com

A new study of nationwide hospital databases found that at least 1,130 adolescents between 2016 and 2019 received “gender-affirming” chest surgeries in the U.S.

The study, published in JAMA Pediatrics, saw a 389% increase in adolescents (ages 12-17) obtaining chest surgeries from 2016 to 2019. An overwhelming majority (1,114) of the adolescents seeking this surgery were female (98.6%), and just 16 were male (1.4%).

“To our knowledge, this study is the largest investigation to date of gender-affirming chest reconstruction in a pediatric population,” the paper’s authors wrote, who are each affiliated with Vanderbilt University Medical Center. “The results demonstrate substantial increases in gender-affirming chest reconstruction for adolescents.”

But Leor Sapir, a fellow at the Manhattan Institute, believes the study significantly underestimates the number of adolescents who have received gender-related chest surgeries, as it only contains hospital-based data and not private surgery centers. The data was collected from the Nationwide Ambulatory Surgery Sample (NASS), an out-patient hospital surgery database in the United States.

“JAMA included only procedures performed in hospitals, not by plastic surgeons in private settings,” said Sapir. “Because these procedures yield around $10,000 per patient, many mastectomies take place outside of hospitals in surgery centers owned by plastic surgeons themselves.”

The ages of the pediatric patients ranged from 12 to 17, with 42 (5.5%) of the recipients between 12 and 14, 131 (16%) aged 15, 291 (34.5%) aged 16, and 365 (44%) aged 17.

Race and ethnicity were collected from hospital records only in 2019, the authors note. The vast majority of patients were white (77.9%), followed by Hispanics (12.2%), blacks (2.7%), Asian or Pacific Islanders (2.5%), and Native Americans (0.5%). About 4% were categorized as “other race.”

The median total charges for chest reconstruction were $29,886 ($21,285–$45,147), a number that was adjusted for inflation, the authors note. Most of the chest surgeries (61.1%) were covered by private health insurance, 16.5% used public health insurance including Medicaid, 15.8% paid out of pocket, and 6.7% indicated “other.”

Most adolescents included in the analysis lived in a densely populated area, with 68% living in a county with over one million residents, 21.9% lived in a moderately densely populated area, and only 9.8% lived in a county with less than a quarter million residents. Over half of those who obtained chest surgeries had a family annual income of over $82,000.

Psychiatric comorbidities for patients were listed, which included anxiety (21.1%) and depression (16.2%), but this is likely a significant underestimate since these numbers were much lower than the high rates of depression typically seen among trans-identified teens. It is therefore likely that mental health data in the hospital database were not comprehensive.

In July, the same four authors, with the addition of two others, published a separate study on adults who received “gender-affirming” chest reconstruction surgeries. Their results, also using NASS outpatient hospital data, found that 21,293 individuals obtained chest surgeries between 2016 and 2019, a 143.2% increase. The large majority of chest surgeries were performed on female patients, with 82.1% receiving double mastectomies; 27.9% of trans-identifying males received breast augmentations.

 

[Masshole 642]

25 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No there’s not.  You guys will believe anything huh.

The guy who's just casually brushing this off as "NBD" is pointing the finger at other people and saying "you'll believe anything" - that's rich. 

You mean other than Fried saying so himself?:     

Quote from Freid:  And I think when you think about what it would take to get by, you know, to get funds, both to the government there where we do have a relationship with the Ukrainian government, for raising capital for them using Cryptocurrencies that runs through FTX. You know, whether it's getting money to the government, or whether it's getting money to individuals that are in need, you know, there are literally tanks outside of the banks. And then - and this gets to, I think, one of the, you know, places where it can be really important to have a fully digital banking system. And I, you know, fully digital way of handling payments. I think that's, you know, an international one. That's the core of what we've been, you know, helping to support in Ukraine.

[jerryskids 6,961]

3 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

They are under the umbrella of gender affirming care, but I usually just see them referred to as top and bottom surgeries.   It's not uncommon for that to happen - e.g. having abortions under "maternal care" or something like that.   We know what they are talking about.  

I don't equate maternal care with abortions, not even close.  You do?

1 hour ago, Masshole said:

So the guy who's the son of a life-time dem party high level apparatchik starts a ponzi scheme crypto company and becomes the 2nd largest individual donor to the democratic party this past election cycle, 2nd only to Soros.  Donates almost $40M to dems this cycle (and no one else).   Ukraine is one of the countries in the world that has the highest frequency of crypto usage and there's lots of indications that Ukraine was laundering and funneling $ back to the dems through and from this crypto company.     And remarkably all of this breaks just after the election so that this info will have no impact on the elections, of course.   

And the general response from MSM - yawn/crickets.    Only WSJ and a few righty news outlets are reporting it as anything other than a failed crypto company.     I try not to do the "imagine if this was Trump/repubs" route too much - but for christ sake - can you imagine if this was a republican admin and Ronna McDaniel's chief lawyer's son did this?    What do you think the attention level would be?   I'm going to go out on a limb and say it would be just slightly more than it is now - like "24/7 news cycle for months on end on MSNBC & CNN" slightly more.  

What do you think the chances are that this guy "commits suicide" within the next 12 months?    Hillary says it's "pretty close to 100%".    

I'll await @Sean Mooneyto tell us we don't have concrete proof so we shouldn't do further investigation.   

[Reality 3,121]

7 minutes ago, Masshole said:

The guy who's just casually brushing this off as "NBD" is pointing the finger at other people and saying "you'll believe anything" - that's rich. 

You mean other than Fried saying so himself?:     

Quote from Freid:  And I think when you think about what it would take to get by, you know, to get funds, both to the government there where we do have a relationship with the Ukrainian government, for raising capital for them using Cryptocurrencies that runs through FTX. You know, whether it's getting money to the government, or whether it's getting money to individuals that are in need, you know, there are literally tanks outside of the banks. And then - and this gets to, I think, one of the, you know, places where it can be really important to have a fully digital banking system. And I, you know, fully digital way of handling payments. I think that's, you know, an international one. That's the core of what we've been, you know, helping to support in Ukraine.

Yeah but, ya know, besides that...

[Hardcore troubadour 15,713]

“I’m against sex change operations for kids, but…..”.  GTFO. 

[RLLD 4,275]

39 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

Yet Biden will end up spending less than Trump in 4 years I'll wager and the deficit is down in 22 vs 21 and 20.  Plus the very fact that Biden is letting the Fed do its work to curb inflation is hugely significant given how we've seen other, less stable, presidents act.

I'll wager one year from now the country will be sitting in a much better position economically and Russia will either be defeated or simply trying to hold on to what little land they are still able to hold.  The country seems to agree with me based on the mid-term results. 

I must ask, why raise the topic of spending at this juncture. What might it be about that aspect that you are keying on?

[jerryskids 6,961]

16 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

They aren't very good at math...
 

 

Yeah, that's not a good look for him.  In addition to the prepubescent vs. minors mistake, I believe that his "millions" number was meant for all people, not just minors (I don't know if that is accurate for adults, but it certainly isn't for minors).

He seemed kinda nervous, blurting out words and affirmations (right... minors), but regardless, if he wants to present as a "leading" authority on this he needs to be better than that.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,713]

28 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

So that's probably a no.  I'd Hazzard a guess people also don't call people who do other mastectomy procedures butchers or committing mutilation on people.   No, it's just used when people think something is wrong, and instead of talking to people resort to to extreme terms to try to convince people of their point and shame them if they don't agree. 

Just about everybody I've interacted with about this have similar concerns about if these kids are getting proper help and are concerned about permanent changes in minors.  Hell, even the parents of a couple trans kids I know.  

Just curious what people think they are accomplishing by calling people butchers and telling people they are mutilating and hurting loved ones? 

So it’s the words that bother you? Yeah, it’s the actions that bother me. Grow a pair, would ya? 

[TimHauck 3,128]

13 minutes ago, Masshole said:

The guy who's just casually brushing this off as "NBD" is pointing the finger at other people and saying "you'll believe anything" - that's rich. 

You mean other than Fried saying so himself?:     

Quote from Freid:  And I think when you think about what it would take to get by, you know, to get funds, both to the government there where we do have a relationship with the Ukrainian government, for raising capital for them using Cryptocurrencies that runs through FTX. You know, whether it's getting money to the government, or whether it's getting money to individuals that are in need, you know, there are literally tanks outside of the banks. And then - and this gets to, I think, one of the, you know, places where it can be really important to have a fully digital banking system. And I, you know, fully digital way of handling payments. I think that's, you know, an international one. That's the core of what we've been, you know, helping to support in Ukraine.

That just sounds like him talking about this:

On 11/13/2022 at 9:07 AM, TimHauck said:

This appears to be the “proof” people are using that Ukraine “invested” in FTX:

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/03/14/ukraine-partners-with-ftx-everstake-to-launch-new-crypto-donation-website/
 

Basically it says they were using FTX to convert donations people made in crypto to actual money.  Which is a mighty big leap to they gave FTX money who gave it to Dems. 

If you think that’s admitting to being a “laundromat” then I can’t help you.  I’m not a finance expert but I think that’s basically just what an “exchange” does

[Mike Honcho 5,345]

11 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Yeah, that's not a good look for him.  In addition to the prepubescent vs. minors mistake, I believe that his "millions" number was meant for all people, not just minors (I don't know if that is accurate for adults, but it certainly isn't for minors).

He seemed kinda nervous, blurting out words and affirmations (right... minors), but regardless, if he wants to present as a "leading" authority on this he needs to be better than that.

If the numbers from the last two pages of this thread are accurate, it's like 250 surgeries and 1250 puberty blockers started a year.  If you double that you are between 2500 and 3000.  Last week nobody could care that we are averaging 2500 deaths per WEEK from covid, but maybe 3K kids in this country with gender issues is a critical issue?  

Sorry, this to me is the definition of made up cultural wars BS and it's why I rarely comment on the issue.

[Sean Mooney 2,018]

23 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I don't equate maternal care with abortions, not even close.  You do?

I'll await @Sean Mooneyto tell us we don't have concrete proof so we shouldn't do further investigation.   

Monday morning at 10:45am....dusting off the old strawman attacks early this week Jerry?