Girls high school basketball team forfeits a game because it refused to play against a team with a transgender player...

[TBayXXXVII 2,545]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I think woke will win. But not all of it. Sometimes it goes too far. I think that, as rational human beings, we can judge when that happens and oppose excess, while still trying to move forward on general principles of acceptance and dignity. 

Democrat and "rational" never belong in the same sentence.  The Democrat party is ruled by the "activists", plain and simple.  The only way, rational thinking can come into play is if the woke ideology is abandoned.

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1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Democrat and "rational" never belong in the same sentence.  The Democrat party is ruled by the "activists", plain and simple.  The only way, rational thinking can come into play is if the woke ideology is abandoned.

No it isn’t and if you follow Democratic politics at all you would know that the vast majority of Democrats, including the leadership, reject most of the notions of the radical left: Activists do not rule the Democratic Party; they never have and while they’re certainly loud they have no actual power. 
 

The woke ideology is not going to be abandoned because its principles are sound and most people either already agree with them or are coming to that conclusion. Extremism and excess will be abandoned, as it always is. 

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25 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

They don’t want to make it a mockery. You grossly misunderstand the issues involved, which is why you shouldn’t be involved.

What’s to understand? Even you think boys shouldn’t play girls sports. 

[Fnord 2,266]

Is this another of the threads where the MAGAs can virtue signal to each other about their culture-warrior bona fides and the intolerant left while hating on and scapegoating a tiny percentage of the overall population?

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3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Is this another of the threads where the MAGAs can virtue signal to each other about their culture-warrior bona fides and the intolerant left while hating on and scapegoating a tiny percentage of the overall population?

Don’t want culture wars? Don’t start any. 

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5 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Is this another of the threads where the MAGAs can virtue signal to each other about their culture-warrior bona fides and the intolerant left while hating on and scapegoating a tiny percentage of the overall population?

If it is such a tiny percentage then why not restrict that tiny percentage from female sports so that the much larger group of biological girls they play against don't need to suffer?

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17 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Is this another of the threads where the MAGAs can virtue signal to each other about their culture-warrior bona fides and the intolerant left while hating on and scapegoating a tiny percentage of the overall population?

That's about the dumbest thing that I've ever heard. 

You're a Lib, you're all about Science. How about a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl. Girls play girls sports and boys play boys sports. It's a pretty novel concept, don't ya think? 

 

[Fnord 2,266]

I don't give 2 sh1ts about Trans females in women's sports. It's such a stupid thing to get your panties in a bunch over. Brain eating amoeba are a much bigger concern to me, and pose a much bigger danger to all of us. Believe me, I will be educating my children about protecting themselves those little bastards. I will not be telling them to concern themselves with Trans athletes, because they are far less likely to be exposed to them than they are to brain eating amoeba, and the Trans athletes pose no threat. The amoeba eat your fuking brains!

 

[Reality 3,121]

11 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I don't give 2 sh1ts about Trans females in women's sports. It's such a stupid thing to get your panties in a bunch over. Brain eating amoeba are a much bigger concern to me, and pose a much bigger danger to all of us. Believe me, I will be educating my children about protecting themselves those little bastards. I will not be telling them to concern themselves with Trans athletes, because they are far less likely to be exposed to them than they are to brain eating amoeba, and the Trans athletes pose no threat. The amoeba eat your fuking brains!

 

You're a focking idiot. 

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14 minutes ago, Reality said:

You're a focking idiot. 

Hey, he knows first hand.

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The amoeba eat your fuking brains!

 

[Fnord 2,266]

20 minutes ago, Reality said:

You're a focking idiot. 

Says the guy who cares more about someone else's altered privates than something that is fairly common that eats your brain and is 100% fatal.

[League Champion 1,911]

53 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Trans athletes pose no threat. The amoeba eat your fuking brains!

You're one stupid SOB. 

No threat to you idiot. Except for the girl trying to get a scholarship running against a 6'2 male in a wig running a 4.30 forty. Or the 6'8 male freak with a wig driving down the lane like Barkley. Or a dude swimmer, remember that one??

So yes, it absolutely poses a threat, not to you but to someone. 

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6 minutes ago, League Champion said:

You're one stupid SOB. 

No threat to you idiot. Except for the girl trying to get a scholarship running against a 6'2 male in a wig running a 4.30 forty. Or the 6'8 male freak with a wig driving down the lane like Barkley. Or a dude swimmer, remember that one??

So yes, it absolutely poses a threat, not to you but to someone. 

The overwhelming majority of the small number to begin with won’t be getting college scholarships because there are different criteria they need to meet for college.

It is a threat to female athletes, albeit a small one.  I am in favor of banning them in high school.

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6 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

Agree.   Trouble here is people can write this one off too easily since it's a Christian school.   I am surprised there was only one team they faced to do this.   What we need is a public/non-religion affliated school or group to do this.  

I believe there was a thread on this here (with video)

https://thesouthernscoopnews.com/education/cherokee-county-schools-forfeits-all-volleyball-games-against-highlands-citing-safety-concerns
 

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45 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Says the guy who cares more about someone else's altered privates than something that is fairly common that eats your brain and is 100% fatal.

The science people 

[The Real timschochet 6,764]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

I don't give 2 sh1ts about Trans females in women's sports. It's such a stupid thing to get your panties in a bunch over. Brain eating amoeba are a much bigger concern to me, and pose a much bigger danger to all of us. Believe me, I will be educating my children about protecting themselves those little bastards. I will not be telling them to concern themselves with Trans athletes, because they are far less likely to be exposed to them than they are to brain eating amoeba, and the Trans athletes pose no threat. The amoeba eat your fuking brains!

 

If your point is that we’re talking about a tiny percentage of people and that it’s a pretty insignificant topic in the larger scheme of things, I agree. 
Nonetheless it IS an issue. And though personally I detest the conservative obsession with trans stuff, this particular issue does interest me. For most of my life girls athletics has been an also ran to boys sports- only in recent years has it started to receive it’s due. As much as I root for trans kids I don’t want that issue to interfere in any way with the integrity of girls sports. 

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56 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Says the guy who cares more about someone else's altered privates than something that is fairly common that eats your brain and is 100% fatal.

A pea brain like yourself would assume this is just about guys in girls sports.  

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1 minute ago, Voltaire said:

Brought to you thanks to people who think like Gutterboy.

HFS.   Looks like a Hemsworth brother.  

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38 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

is a threat to female athletes, albeit a small one.  I am in favor of banning them in high school.

Boys are naturally bigger and stronger, not only is there a serious unfair advantage, they can hurt girls. 

What's the point of allowing Trans to compete vs the opposite sex? For who?? 

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6 minutes ago, League Champion said:

 

What's the point of allowing Trans to compete vs the opposite sex?

Even though this affects a small number of girls, the destruction of objective truth that it causes is felt widely.  That’s the point. 

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5 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Boys are naturally bigger and stronger, not only is there a serious unfair advantage, they can hurt girls. 

What's the point of allowing Trans to compete vs the opposite sex? For who?? 

I agree.  I only mean it’s a “small” issue because it’s pretty uncommon.  “It’s not widespread,” if you will.

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2 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Even though this affects a small number of girls, the destruction of objective truth that it causes is felt widely.  That’s the point. 

Well, they'll never admit that.  It is irrefutable however that the feelings of the biological girls mean nothing; it is all about the feelings of the trans girl.

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I agree.  I only mean it’s a “small” issue because it’s pretty uncommon.  “It’s not widespread,” if you will.

In other words, Phase 2.   

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9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I agree.  I only mean it’s a “small” issue because it’s pretty uncommon.  “It’s not widespread,” if you will.

Exactly, so don't let it happen. If you have a D play with the boys, if you have a P play with the girls. 

It's really that simple, isn't it? You can't just throw a wig on a dude and say welcome to the volleyball team. 

[TimHauck 2,875]

38 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Exactly, so don't let it happen. If you have a D play with the boys, if you have a P play with the girls. 

It's really that simple, isn't it? You can't just throw a wig on a dude and say welcome to the volleyball team. 

Agree

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15 hours ago, Fnord said:

I don't give 2 sh1ts about Trans females in women's sports. It's such a stupid thing to get your panties in a bunch over. Brain eating amoeba are a much bigger concern to me, and pose a much bigger danger to all of us. Believe me, I will be educating my children about protecting themselves those little bastards. I will not be telling them to concern themselves with Trans athletes, because they are far less likely to be exposed to them than they are to brain eating amoeba, and the Trans athletes pose no threat. The amoeba eat your fuking brains!

Interesting.  Have you ever been exposed to cops killing black people?

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18 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

No it isn’t and if you follow Democratic politics at all you would know that the vast majority of Democrats, including the leadership, reject most of the notions of the radical left: Activists do not rule the Democratic Party; they never have and while they’re certainly loud they have no actual power. 
 

The woke ideology is not going to be abandoned because its principles are sound and most people either already agree with them or are coming to that conclusion. Extremism and excess will be abandoned, as it always is. 

Nobody who thinks for themselves agree with the asinine woke ideology.  Seriously are idiots believe men can have babies or women is whatever on thinks it is or it's great to see trans women dominate women sports.  99 percent of trans make a mockery of women.  It is a sickness.   

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14 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I agree.  I only mean it’s a “small” issue because it’s pretty uncommon.  “It’s not widespread,” if you will.

So then you would agree that a statistically rare event is not evidence of systemic issues…?

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9 minutes ago, RLLD said:

So then you would agree that a statistically rare event is not evidence of systemic issues…?

I presume you're tagging onto the "cops killing black people" comparison...yes cops killing them is rare, cops being biased against them is not.

 

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4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I presume you're tagging onto the "cops killing black people" comparison...yes cops killing them is rare, cops being biased against them is not.

 

Untrue. Now if you want to assert that cops are biased against criminal activity, yes. If you want to assert that Democrat policies are biased against minorities, yes we can see that. If you want to assert that the most profound threat to minorities are other members of their own group, absolutely. And if you want to assert that the propaganda suggesting minorities are less capable and need lower standards is the group think you are spot on.

 

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21 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

If you were born a male and at some point prior to adulthood you choose to become a female, I have no problem with that. I think you should be treated with dignity and respect and there should be no laws preventing you from doing this. I disagree with a lot of the folks here on this issue. 
 

But- if you take this action you should not be allowed to participate in girls athletics. I’m sorry but it’s simply not fair. I gotta go with the conservatives on this one. 

yep

[TimHauck 2,875]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Untrue. Now if you want to assert that cops are biased against criminal activity, yes. If you want to assert that Democrat policies are biased against minorities, yes we can see that. If you want to assert that the most profound threat to minorities are other members of their own group, absolutely. And if you want to assert that the propaganda suggesting minorities are less capable and need lower standards is the group think you are spot on.

 

What’s untrue?  You’re saying it’s uncommon for cops to be biased against blacks?

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Just now, TimHauck said:

What’s untrue?  You’re saying it’s uncommon for cops to be biased against blacks?

The methods used to promote this false narrative are flawed, it’s the same ones used to suggest incarceration rates are also a problem.

It takes a cultural problem in a small community which results in consequences and suggests the system is the problem. Continuing this false narrative is a key reason the problem does not improve 

[TimHauck 2,875]

8 minutes ago, RLLD said:

The methods used to promote this false narrative are flawed, it’s the same ones used to suggest incarceration rates are also a problem.

It takes a cultural problem in a small community which results in consequences and suggests the system is the problem. Continuing this false narrative is a key reason the problem does not improve 

I'm not saying the system is "the problem."  Yes, the statistics often back up their biases.  But not always, and there are biases.  To say otherwise would be incredibly naive. 

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6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I'm not saying the system is "the problem."  Yes, the statistics often back up their biases.  But not always, and there are biases.  To say otherwise would be incredibly naive. 

Absolving the actions of the people by suggesting the problem is the police will not help these people 

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5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Absolving the actions of the people by suggesting the problem is the police will not help these people 

Agree. 

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Why do people not care about men taking up space with women? Sports, locker rooms, bathrooms, anywhere else private. We should protect the gains women have made, not trample it by letting men take over these spaces. It might be a small percentage, but it simply shouldn't be allowed. 

[The Real timschochet 6,764]

22 minutes ago, RLLD said:

The methods used to promote this false narrative are flawed, it’s the same ones used to suggest incarceration rates are also a problem.

It takes a cultural problem in a small community which results in consequences and suggests the system is the problem. Continuing this false narrative is a key reason the problem does not improve 

I disagree with you, rather strongly, that this is a false narrative. 

However I do agree with your earlier and larger point that anecdotes by themselves shouldn’t be used to prove a point of view or form the basis for policy. 

[The Real timschochet 6,764]

Just now, crackattack said:

Why do people not care about men taking up space with women? Sports, locker rooms, bathrooms, anywhere else private. We should protect the gains women have made, not trample it by letting men take over these spaces. It might be a small percentage, but it simply shouldn't be allowed. 

I have no problem with a trans woman using a bathroom for women. My objection is solely limited to athletic competition. 

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5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I have no problem with a trans woman using a bathroom for women. My objection is solely limited to athletic competition. 

I do. I don't want a grown man in a restroom with possibly a little girl.