What is Really Wrong with our Government

[jonmx 2,425]

Our entire Executive Branch has become rotten to the core.   It needs to be gutted and to have massive reforms which includes checks and accountability.    The US Executive branch has turned into the most massive and powerful organization in the history of  mankind.  People inherently suck and when you give people unlimited unchecked power they completely suck.  The problems with our Executive branch.

1.  It is way too big with over 4 million employees and is only answerable to one elected official (the President) who has no grasp at what they all do.

2.  They have way too much power.   They write massive amount of regulations loosely based on laws which are often greatly expanded over what was passed by the legislature.   The executive branch angencies effectively writes the rules, enforces the rules, and makes judgement on the rules many having their own courts or have a DC circuit which has become nothing but a rubber stamp for executive abuses.  

3.  Attempts by the legislature to hold the executive agencies accountable is laughable.   They pull in these bureaucrats into testify before Congress and they stonewall, outright lie or hide behind things like that is 'classified', or that is an 'on-going investigation, or 'we can't reveal our methods'.

4.  The are becoming armed to the hilt.  Even non-military agencies like the NIH are purchasing huge amount of assault weapons and have a ridiculous amount of ammo stockpiled.  Why? 

5.  They secretly hire 'assets' off the books and strong-arm corporations to do an end run around the Constitution Our Executive Branch hires outsiders to do thier dirty deeds that they are prohibited by the Bill of Rights to abuse citizens.   

 

Our Executive Branch has fundamental flaws in how it has evolved and has become a cesspool of corruption and is far closer to fascism than a Constitutional Republic.  This is not a Democrat vs. Republican or Liberal vs. Conservstive issue.   This is an issue of freedom vs. Tyranny.   Don't let your hatred towards a particular politician blind you from what is going on.  Without transparency and accountability we are doomed from these corrupt powers.  

[League Champion 1,909]

Liberal ideology

 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Our morals are so weak right now that weve got an open satanist in government.  if you wanted to explain our terrible situation to anyone in the past 2000 years, thats all youd need to say and they would instantly understand all of our problems.

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

1. Executive branch is too strong, I agree there.

2. No concern for budgeting.

3. Too polarized, each side used to work together and compromise.

 

 

 

[MDC 7,267]

Lot of problems to point to but I think our overall system of government is too large and the federalist style of government leads to gridlock and encourages politicians to do nothing. There is no accountability because nothing can get pushed through Congress and signed into law unless it’s completely watered down with “compromise.” So we have 2 parties that more or less agree on all the big ticket items that matter and spend their time bickering about wedge issues to keep the base engaged.

[Dizkneelande 1,093]

It no longer functions as intended. We are severely under represented in the house. A lot of us who live in deep red or blue states have no representation. Our tax system is horrific. States rights have been diminished because we send most of our tax revenues to the Fed. They openly violate our civil rights on a daily basis. Corporate and social media have been co-opted by the government and operate as intelligence community assets. 3 private equity companies own everything. 

[BunnysBastatrds 2,408]

Lack of term limits. 

[jonmx 2,425]

2 hours ago, MDC said:

Lot of problems to point to but I think our overall system of government is too large and the federalist style of government leads to gridlock and encourages politicians to do nothing. There is no accountability because nothing can get pushed through Congress and signed into law unless it’s completely watered down with “compromise.” So we have 2 parties that more or less agree on all the big ticket items that matter and spend their time bickering about wedge issues to keep the base engaged.

Gridlock is hardly the problem. The f-ing bureaucrats in the executive branch do what they want.   Herr are a few items: 

1.  Lock down the country and cause trillions in losses in productivity.  Check

2.  Hack into everyone's computer and spy on them.  Check.

3.  Persecute whistleblowers who expose them.  Check.

4.  Raid the homes of journalists who expose them.  Check.

5.  Propose terrorists acts such as shooting down commercial planes to justify an invasion.  Check.

6.  Make up intelligence to justify a war.  Check.

7.  Round up citizens and put them into camps.  Check.

8.  Assassinate a sitting president and also a leading candidate for president because they threaten to dismantle them into a thousand pieces. Check.

9.  Make up intelligence to support an impeachment.  Check.

10.  Set up a scandal which leads to the resignation of a president.  Check.

11.  Audit taxes of people who propose polices which could threaten their power.  Check.  

12.  Censor citizens on social media who criticizes their policies.  Check.

13.  Infiltrate organizations and instigate criminal acts so they can persecute people.  Check.

14.  Do mind control experimentation on citizens without their knowledge.  Check.

15.  Infiltrate media organization to control the narrative through propaganda.  

16.  Infiltrate big Tech and act as a gate keeper to congrol access to all information available on the internet.  

 

[jonmx 2,425]

11 minutes ago, BunnysBastatrds said:

Lack of term limits. 

It is not the elected officials who are the biggest problem.  

[MDC 7,267]

2 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Gridlock is hardly the problem. The f-ing bureaucrats in the executive branch do what they want.   Herr are a few items: 

1.  Lock down the country and cause trillions in losses in productivity.  Check

2.  Hack into everyone's computer and spy on them.  Check.

3.  Persecute whistleblowers who expose them.  Check.

4.  Raid the homes of journalists who expose them.  Check.

5.  Propose terrorists acts such as shooting down commercial planes to justify an invasion.  Check.

6.  Make up intelligence to justify a war.  Check.

7.  Round up citizens and put them into camps.  Check.

8.  Assassinate a sitting president and also a leading candidate for president because they threaten to dismantle them into a thousand pieces. Check.

9.  Make up intelligence to support an impeachment.  Check.

10.  Set up a scandal which leads to the resignation of a president.  Check.

11.  Audit taxes of people who propose polices which could threaten their power.  Check.  

12.  Censor citizens on social media who criticizes their policies.  Check.

13.  Infiltrate organizations and instigate criminal acts so they can persecute people.  Check.

14.  Do mind control experimentation on citizens without their knowledge.  Check.

15.  Infiltrate media organization to control the narrative through propaganda.  

16.  Infiltrate big Tech and act as a gate keeper to congrol access to all information available on the internet.  

 

You mingle fact with fiction and decades old conspiracy theories here. I’m not League Champion so I don’t have limitless spare time and wouldn’t use it to unpack all of this if I did.

Executive overreach is definitely a problem but it’s also a symptom of the fact that no executive will ever be able to marshal enough support to do much of value by any other means. Partly because our executives are so pathetic but also because the opposition party on both sides makes it impossible. 

But partisan gridlock IS a problem and a major reason virtually nothing gets done except for a ton of grift and DC lifers hang onto jobs for decades by blaming the other guys.

[jonmx 2,425]

4 minutes ago, MDC said:

You mingle fact with fiction and decades old conspiracy theories here. guys.

They are all facts.  Whether or not you wish to believe our beloved  CIA could not plan and coverup assassinations is on you.  And they absolutely had plans to blowup planes killing innocent civilians and blame it on Cuba.   They were some ruthless blood-thirsty power-hungry bastards in the higher ups of our government...and there still are today.  

[Fnord 2,175]

6 hours ago, jonmx said:

Our entire Executive Branch has become rotten to the core.   It needs to be gutted and to have massive reforms which includes checks and accountability.    The US Executive branch has turned into the most massive and powerful organization in the history of  mankind.  People inherently suck and when you give people unlimited unchecked power they completely suck.  The problems with our Executive branch.

1.  It is way too big with over 4 million employees and is only answerable to one elected official (the President) who has no grasp at what they all do.

2.  They have way too much power.   They write massive amount of regulations loosely based on laws which are often greatly expanded over what was passed by the legislature.   The executive branch angencies effectively writes the rules, enforces the rules, and makes judgement on the rules many having their own courts or have a DC circuit which has become nothing but a rubber stamp for executive abuses.  

3.  Attempts by the legislature to hold the executive agencies accountable is laughable.   They pull in these bureaucrats into testify before Congress and they stonewall, outright lie or hide behind things like that is 'classified', or that is an 'on-going investigation, or 'we can't reveal our methods'.

4.  The are becoming armed to the hilt.  Even non-military agencies like the NIH are purchasing huge amount of assault weapons and have a ridiculous amount of ammo stockpiled.  Why? 

5.  They secretly hire 'assets' off the books and strong-arm corporations to do an end run around the Constitution Our Executive Branch hires outsiders to do thier dirty deeds that they are prohibited by the Bill of Rights to abuse citizens.   

 

Our Executive Branch has fundamental flaws in how it has evolved and has become a cesspool of corruption and is far closer to fascism than a Constitutional Republic.  This is not a Democrat vs. Republican or Liberal vs. Conservstive issue.   This is an issue of freedom vs. Tyranny.   Don't let your hatred towards a particular politician blind you from what is going on.  Without transparency and accountability we are doomed from these corrupt powers.  

Jon, when you tone yourself down, you have valid points. I agree with much of the above. So why do you frequently go from statements like the above to "liberals are all brownshirts" and blame them for all of society's ills in a split second? 

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

BDS activated!

[MDC 7,267]

3 minutes ago, jonmx said:

They are all facts.  Whether or not you wish to believe our beloved  CIA could not plan and coverup assassinations is on you.  And they absolutely had plans to blowup planes killing innocent civilians and blame it on Cuba.   They were some ruthless blood-thirsty power-hungry bastards in the higher ups of our government...and there still are today.  

Oh I believe that. I’m saying you couch plausible theory with partisan conspiracies in one giant bouillabaisse and I don’t take homework assignments and won’t start parsing it out Point by point. I have the day off and I’m taking my son to Meg 2.

[seafoam1 2,913]

TDS must hurt.

[jerryskids 6,706]

7 hours ago, jonmx said:

Our entire Executive Branch has become rotten to the core.   It needs to be gutted and to have massive reforms which includes checks and accountability.    The US Executive branch has turned into the most massive and powerful organization in the history of  mankind.  People inherently suck and when you give people unlimited unchecked power they completely suck.  The problems with our Executive branch.

1.  It is way too big with over 4 million employees and is only answerable to one elected official (the President) who has no grasp at what they all do.

2.  They have way too much power.   They write massive amount of regulations loosely based on laws which are often greatly expanded over what was passed by the legislature.   The executive branch angencies effectively writes the rules, enforces the rules, and makes judgement on the rules many having their own courts or have a DC circuit which has become nothing but a rubber stamp for executive abuses.  

3.  Attempts by the legislature to hold the executive agencies accountable is laughable.   They pull in these bureaucrats into testify before Congress and they stonewall, outright lie or hide behind things like that is 'classified', or that is an 'on-going investigation, or 'we can't reveal our methods'.

4.  The are becoming armed to the hilt.  Even non-military agencies like the NIH are purchasing huge amount of assault weapons and have a ridiculous amount of ammo stockpiled.  Why? 

5.  They secretly hire 'assets' off the books and strong-arm corporations to do an end run around the Constitution Our Executive Branch hires outsiders to do thier dirty deeds that they are prohibited by the Bill of Rights to abuse citizens.   

 

Our Executive Branch has fundamental flaws in how it has evolved and has become a cesspool of corruption and is far closer to fascism than a Constitutional Republic.  This is not a Democrat vs. Republican or Liberal vs. Conservstive issue.   This is an issue of freedom vs. Tyranny.   Don't let your hatred towards a particular politician blind you from what is going on.  Without transparency and accountability we are doomed from these corrupt powers.  

I just listened to Vivek on an Honestly pod; he agrees with you and claims that if elected, he'll dismantle a bunch of federal agencies.  I doubt he could do what he proposes but he provides compelling arguments.

[Dizkneelande 1,093]

48 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Jon, when you tone yourself down, you have valid points. I agree with much of the above. So why do you frequently go from statements like the above to "liberals are all brownshirts" and blame them for all of society's ills in a split second? 

You called 75 million Americans traitors 

[Fnord 2,175]

36 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

You called 75 million Americans traitors 

Link?

[Dizkneelande 1,093]

5 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Link?

You puzzy you deleted it

[BunnysBastatrds 2,408]

Redistricting state counties/parishes depending on what party is in charge and census data every ten years. Saw an interesting interview with James Baker and Colin Powell discussing this. Why do you think lines are constantly being redrawn and blue states are blue and red states are red? The two parties in all states control how the voting lines are drawn. 

[jonmx 2,425]

2 hours ago, Fnord said:

Jon, when you tone yourself down, you have valid points. I agree with much of the above. So why do you frequently go from statements like the above to "liberals are all brownshirts" and blame them for all of society's ills in a split second? 

 But if of a political party walks in lock-step and cheers on the every expanding and abusive powers, aren't they being brownshirts?.   It really has nothing to do about liberalism as real liberals would stand up against an abusive government.   The Democrats have become overrun by authoritarian leftists.  And of course there are many establishment Republicans also walk in lock-step to these authoritarian elitists.  Unless people wake up and realize we are losing our country, we are doomed.

[jonmx 2,425]

2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

I just listened to Vivek on an Honestly pod; he agrees with you and claims that if elected, he'll dismantle a bunch of federal agencies.  I doubt he could do what he proposes but he provides compelling arguments.

I have seen his name thrown around, but I have not listened to him yet.  People that recognize the problem of our every expanding Executive Branch need to unite.   The estsblishment powers have learned over the decades how to keep people divided (race, abortion, now gender idiocy) while they expand their reach and dismantle the Constitution.  

[jerryskids 6,706]

16 minutes ago, jonmx said:

I have seen his name thrown around, but I have not listened to him yet.  People that recognize the problem of our every expanding Executive Branch need to unite.   The estsblishment powers have learned over the decades how to keep people divided (race, abortion, now gender idiocy) while they expand their reach and dismantle the Constitution.  

Pod:  https://www.thefp.com/p/vivek-ramaswamy-wants-a-second-american-487

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Vivek Ramaswamy, at 37 years old, is the first ever millennial Republican presidential candidate. He graduated from Harvard, then Yale Law School, and worked as a partner at a hedge fund before starting a successful biotech company, where he made millions.

It’s an impressive background. But he lacks any political experience, so he’s not someone pundits think has a shot in the already crowded GOP primary field. And yet, somehow, his name is in the news almost every single day. His tweets are constantly going viral. And recent polling suggests that he’s hitting a nerve with the American people: it’s only August and Vivek is polling in third place, ahead of established politicians and a former vice president. 

On today’s show, Vivek explains he thinks he can win the nomination and the presidency—by beating Trump by going further than Trump, and by being a kind of Trump 2.0. He talks about why he thinks we’ve lost our soul as a nation, and why he thinks we need a “second American revolution.” And—from immigration to foreign policy to dismantling the Department of Education—what a President Ramaswamy, with all of his radical proposals, would do for the country. 

 

[TBayXXXVII 2,519]

The problem with this country is that whenever there's a problem at the local level, meaning as small as a 500 resident town, the result needs to be kicked up to the federal level all the time.  We handle too many things in DC when the vast majority of things should be handled at the state level, as intended.  The result is national polarization, too much control at the federal level, and too much bull crap in the media.... abortion is something that comes to mind with this, and so is marriage.  Neither of these things need to be handled at the federal level, but simply at the state level.  Too many people complain on other people's behalves and want the minority to force the majority into things they don't want.  It's quite simple really, if you want a law passed, vote for the people IN YOUR state, who will do it.

The only things that should be taken care of at that federal level is infrastructure (the way it's intended - not the liberal version where everything falls under infrastructure), military, protect the borders, and taxation.  Not that hard.  If you don't like the way things are done in your state, vote in the other people or move.  If you have an opinion that 9 other people disagree with, why should they have to live by your opinion?

[Fnord 2,175]

47 minutes ago, jonmx said:

 But if of a political party walks in lock-step and cheers on the every expanding and abusive powers, aren't they being brownshirts?.   It really has nothing to do about liberalism as real liberals would stand up against an abusive government.   The Democrats have become overrun by authoritarian leftists.  And of course there are many establishment Republicans also walk in lock-step to these authoritarian elitists.  Unless people wake up and realize we are losing our country, we are doomed.

Thank you. I don't entirely agree with your assessment of the Democratic party; but will certainly concede that at times the hard leftists seem to be driving the bus. 

I single you out a lot because your rhetoric gets extreme. I hate when people default to disparaging large groups of people based on the words or actions of a minority of those people. You do that frequently. Good to see you actually concede that "real liberals" are not on board with authoritarianism. I appreciate your tempered response. 

[Cloaca du jour 2,148]

Trying to focus on a very small % of population instead of making the country stronger as a whole

[Fnord 2,175]

13 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

The problem with this country is that whenever there's a problem at the local level, meaning as small as a 500 resident town, the result needs to be kicked up to the federal level all the time.  We handle too many things in DC when the vast majority of things should be handled at the state level, as intended.  The result is national polarization, too much control at the federal level, and too much bull crap in the media.... abortion is something that comes to mind with this, and so is marriage.  Neither of these things need to be handled at the federal level, but simply at the state level.  Too many people complain on other people's behalves and want the minority to force the majority into things they don't want.  It's quite simple really, if you want a law passed, vote for the people IN YOUR state, who will do it.

The only things that should be taken care of at that federal level is infrastructure (the way it's intended - not the liberal version where everything falls under infrastructure), military, and taxation.  Not that hard.  If you don't like the way things are done in your state, vote in the other people or move.  If you have an opinion that 9 other people disagree with, why should they have to live by your opinion?

Well said. I think the grotesque gerrymandering that is regularly engaged in would need to be dealt with before we could make any real changes in this area, though. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,519]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

Well said. I think the grotesque gerrymandering that is regularly engaged in would need to be dealt with before we could make any real changes in this area, though. 

If the scope of government fell at the local level, gerrymandering wouldn't even be an issue.  The only reason why it's a real issue is to win congressional seats.  If you reduce the power of the congress by keeping everything as local as possible, there's virtually no need to for gerrymandering.

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

14 hours ago, jonmx said:

 

4.  The are becoming armed to the hilt.  Even non-military agencies like the NIH are purchasing huge amount of assault weapons and have a ridiculous amount of ammo stockpiled.  Why? 

 

 

This is an interesting question. The most practical answer is the "uni-party" at some level fears a full blown military coup. 

Would you want to take orders from an idiot like Joe Biden ( or Susan Rice or Neera Tanden as a proxy for Obama or big corporate interests) if you were career military and you spent decades watching your friends and comrades die for greed, oil and political stupidity?

Would you want to take orders from an imbecile like Donald Trump under those same circumstances? 

Think about if you and I and others here were high ranking military, and we spent decades in service, ascended to top positions of power, and we were told again and again about stupid things that needed to be done to appease nimrods like W Bush, Clinton, Obama, Biden, Hillary and Trump. How long could one show restraint with all that? Then we saw Biden abandoned billions in weapons to kill future generations of American soldiers across the world. Biden literally handed us all the tax bill to make it easier for our children to die so he could have a single talking point against Trump about Afghanistan. 

I suspect the levers of the "uni-party" know it's coming. The current military apparatus is going to buckle on them eventually. It's always happened in history. Always. Some government kept screwing it all up, then the military decided they just had enough. 

I also find it interesting how often the activist radicals here and at "the other place" can't wait to start laying into you and mocking you, at every turn. Never with information and substance, just more gaslighting and condescension.  The real answer is they don't hate you, they hate the truth. They go after you as a proxy for their denial. 

[squistion 2,105]

13 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

Our morals are so weak right now that weve got an open satanist in government.  if you wanted to explain our terrible situation to anyone in the past 2000 years, thats all youd need to say and they would instantly understand all of our problems.

An open satanist? 

What drugs are you on?

[Reality 3,121]

9 hours ago, Fnord said:

Jon, when you tone yourself down, you have valid points. I agree with much of the above. So why do you frequently go from statements like the above to "liberals are all brownshirts" and blame them for all of society's ills in a split second? 

Rich.

[Thornton Melon 618]

What's really wrong is the feds have been pissing on this more and more as time goes on:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,408]

12 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said:

Trying to focus on a very small % of population instead of making the country stronger as a whole

O.1% of our population are tranyfreaks. But we treat them and their voices like they are a simple minority above the disabled. 

 

 

[iam90sbaby 2,562]

Easy:

Too many foreigners 

 

What do I win?

[avoiding injuries 1,555]

America has had it too easy for too long.

”Tough times create strong men, strong men create easy times. Easy times create weak men, weak men create tough times.”

Sprinkle in the corruption of our government, open borders with benefits and all the other policies that are designed to weaken us and I’m surprised we are still holding on. Barely. 

[League Champion 1,909]

Maybe we should ask, What's wrong with our people??? 

 

 

[League Champion 1,909]

This is all you need to know about this Country. In case you're wondering what's wrong. 

 

 

[Cloaca du jour 2,148]

Hey...it was a free playstation...thats like free crack

[weepaws 3,167]

On 8/4/2023 at 1:39 AM, jonmx said:

Our entire Executive Branch has become rotten to the core.   It needs to be gutted and to have massive reforms which includes checks and accountability.    The US Executive branch has turned into the most massive and powerful organization in the history of  mankind.  People inherently suck and when you give people unlimited unchecked power they completely suck.  The problems with our Executive branch.

1.  It is way too big with over 4 million employees and is only answerable to one elected official (the President) who has no grasp at what they all do.

2.  They have way too much power.   They write massive amount of regulations loosely based on laws which are often greatly expanded over what was passed by the legislature.   The executive branch angencies effectively writes the rules, enforces the rules, and makes judgement on the rules many having their own courts or have a DC circuit which has become nothing but a rubber stamp for executive abuses.  

3.  Attempts by the legislature to hold the executive agencies accountable is laughable.   They pull in these bureaucrats into testify before Congress and they stonewall, outright lie or hide behind things like that is 'classified', or that is an 'on-going investigation, or 'we can't reveal our methods'.

4.  The are becoming armed to the hilt.  Even non-military agencies like the NIH are purchasing huge amount of assault weapons and have a ridiculous amount of ammo stockpiled.  Why? 

5.  They secretly hire 'assets' off the books and strong-arm corporations to do an end run around the Constitution Our Executive Branch hires outsiders to do thier dirty deeds that they are prohibited by the Bill of Rights to abuse citizens.   

 

Our Executive Branch has fundamental flaws in how it has evolved and has become a cesspool of corruption and is far closer to fascism than a Constitutional Republic.  This is not a Democrat vs. Republican or Liberal vs. Conservstive issue.   This is an issue of freedom vs. Tyranny.   Don't let your hatred towards a particular politician blind you from what is going on.  Without transparency and accountability we are doomed from these corrupt powers.  

Any faith in man is vain faith, all Faith in God is righteous and true, let’s stop pretending why this country, this world is so corrupted, the removal of Praising God.  God’s Word warm is this would happen, and promises us that it’s going to get worst, so just kick back if your faith is in the Lord and enjoy the ride into peace, comfort, joy, but if your faith is in man, the ride to hell will be tormented and hot.  

God bless. 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

2 hours ago, League Champion said:

Maybe we should ask, What's wrong with our people??? 

 

 

 

In this video you posted, the term "scholars" or "young scholars" is used because major social media platforms ( aside from Twitter) will demonetize you and/or deplatform you for using the term "thugs"  

Seen as too racist.