When do you think Metallica “Sold Out” ??

[TommyGavin 790]

I say the Black album with Nothing Else Matters but I saw an interview with them on Howard Stern and they say people said they “sold out” with Fade to Black

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

Load and Re-load were sellouts.

The last four albums have kicked ass, including St. Anger.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Never cared for em

[weepaws 3,153]

A great time to preach the Word of God, Ive done it, and it’s great too see people get filled with the Holy Spirit of righteousness and go home.  Let’s all pray that no one shows up to their horrible concert.  Amen. 

[supermike80 1,800]

6 minutes ago, TommyGavin said:

I say the Black album with Nothing Else Matters but I saw an interview with them on Howard Stern and they say people said they “sold out” with Fade to Black

I love fade to black

[TommyGavin 790]

1 minute ago, weepaws said:

A great time to preach the Word of God, Ive done it, and it’s great too see people get filled with the Holy Spirit of righteousness and go home.  Let’s all pray that no one shows up to their horrible concert.  Amen. 

Take your bible cr@p somewhere else. It’s music for Christ’s sake. 

[TommyGavin 790]

9 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Load and Re-load were sellouts.

The last four albums have kicked ass, including St. Anger.

Yeah Load and Re- Load were terrible as was St Anger but they made their way back. 
 

Anyone seeing them in this tour ? Different opening acts in each city  Different set list each night in each city - no duplicates- that’s crazy  

 

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

When they sued Napster.

[bostonlager 2,664]

Load. 

I know I'm in the minority, but I love the black album. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

Just now, TommyGavin said:

Yeah Load and Re- Load was terrible as was St Anger but they made their way back. 
 

Anyone seeing them in this tour ? Different opening acts in each city  Different set list each night in each city - no duplicates- that’s crazy  

 

I looked into tickets in Dallas, but it was crazy expensive, and sitting in the cheap seats is not an option because the sound up there bounces around to badly that you can't even tell what song they're playing. I gook my son there the last time they played, and we wound up going down to a lower level and hanging out with the drunken riff raff in a standing area that the security people let us into . We had a blast. A few years I took both sons to see them in the round in Little Rock, and it was incredible. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

2 minutes ago, bostonlager said:

Load. 

I know I'm in the minority, but I love the black album. 

It's a great album, as is St. Anger. 

I believe "Master of Puppets" to be their best album and No. 2 greatest of all time behind "Paranoid," but "Death Magnetic" is my favorite. 

[TommyGavin 790]

3 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

When they sued Napster.

But they still played good music though. But yes that was a low point. 
 

There was a funny animation back then - Napster Bad !

[crackattack 520]

This is a fun discussion topic. I'm not a huge metallica fan, so I don't know the answer. But with regards to a band "selling out", I've always had some questions about that. 

When a band "makes it", usually they had a style, an it factor. As a band ages or matures, are they allowed to change their music style and taste? Or does that make them sell outs.

What if they soften their play style as they get older? Nothing like watching 60 y/o trying to rock like 20 somethings. 

I remember someone in metallica saying something like "yeah we sold out, we sell out every night we play". Or something like that.

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

https://www.stubhub.com/pantera-arlington-tickets-8-18-2023/event/151254636/?quantity=2&sections=1527492&ticketClasses=8379&seatTypes=&listingQty=

I'm not paying $500 a ticket to sit in OK seats.

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

2 minutes ago, crackattack said:

This is a fun discussion topic. I'm not a huge metallica fan, so I don't know the answer. But with regards to a band "selling out", I've always had some questions about that. 

When a band "makes it", usually they had a style, an it factor. As a band ages or matures, are they allowed to change their music style and taste? Or does that make them sell outs.

What if they soften their play style as they get older? Nothing like watching 60 y/o trying to rock like 20 somethings. 

I remember someone in metallica saying something like "yeah we sold out, we sell out every night we play". Or something like that.

They make music they want to make and listen to. They don't pander to their audience. They do what they want, hence St. Anger.

I see Kings of Leon as sellouts.

Great first two albums, good third album and then a total sellout to pander to an audience.

One of the most boring concerts I've ever seen, and I saw them on their second tour like 20 feet from the stage in a small venue. They played everything note for note. 

I don't need some 45 minute Phish jam, but mix it the fock up to make your live shows interesting.

[jerryskids 6,558]

9 minutes ago, crackattack said:

This is a fun discussion topic. I'm not a huge metallica fan, so I don't know the answer. But with regards to a band "selling out", I've always had some questions about that. 

When a band "makes it", usually they had a style, an it factor. As a band ages or matures, are they allowed to change their music style and taste? Or does that make them sell outs.

What if they soften their play style as they get older? Nothing like watching 60 y/o trying to rock like 20 somethings. 

I remember someone in metallica saying something like "yeah we sold out, we sell out every night we play". Or something like that.

Interesting, as I'm like you and wasn't into Metallica early or into their deeper tracks, so to me I really like Unforgiven and Nothing Else Matters from Black.  But I can see fans of their earlier work considering them a "sellout" for that.

I was in HS and college during the 80s, when it seemed all of the bands I liked sold out for the synth 80s sound, as well as (what you describe as) an inevitable mellowing with age, I guess.  Yes, Rush, Elton John, Billy Joel, Styx, Chicago, many more.  

[bostonlager 2,664]

Nickelback is a bigger sellout. Their first 2 albums were badass. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,923]

They all seem like diks. 

[Herbivore 1,115]

38 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

When they sued Napster.

This. I loved their 1st 4 albums, all the bsides like Am I Evil and Breadfan. Saw them live with Cliff. Black Album was good, just not awesome like everything else they had put out so far. Since, theyre good, but kind of meh to me.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

The black album is by far the most popular M album to zoomers.  They all know Enter Sandman.  But thats the album the “core” fans hate. 

[Cdub100 3,826]

You have to sell out to make it big. I don't fault them for that. I do blame them for attacking downloaders. 

[SUXBNME 1,457]

They never sold out, imo. They just wanted to make different music and the hardcore fans didn't like the new direction. 

[SUXBNME 1,457]

43 minutes ago, TommyGavin said:

But they still played good music though. But yes that was a low point. 
 

There was a funny animation back then - Napster Bad !

FIRE ---BAD!!!
 

 

[BunnysBastatrds 2,310]

40 minutes ago, TommyGavin said:

Take your bible cr@p somewhere else. It’s music for Christ’s sake. 

 He’s one of the sh!theads who believe playing music backwards is evil. Guess what dumbo, grab any Christian albums and go to the song that sings about love god. Play that backwards you crayon eating short bus driver. It will tell you that love god is a subliminal message, played backwards, dogevol. The 700 club needs your donations so they can fly on their private jets.

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

25 minutes ago, SUXBNME said:

They never sold out, imo. They just wanted to make different music and the hardcore fans didn't like the new direction. 

Ding. It would have been selling out to keep pandering to them.

[posty 2,611]

I agree with Rusty…. St. Anger is a pretty good album…. When it first came out I didn’t like it either, but then listened to it again much later and enjoyed it…

[TommyGavin 790]

24 minutes ago, SUXBNME said:

FIRE ---BAD!!!
 

 

You crazy focker. I never thought to look on YouTube- I’m not savvy like that that. 
 

That was a good time with all of those animations- do you remember that main site they were hosted on ? Lots of good content. Now it’s all til tock cr@p. 

[MDC 7,122]

I’m old so the black album.

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

They didn’t sell out they evolved like most bands with staying power. I hate them and think they are awful but you can’t discount their legacy. 

[Gepetto 1,288]

I remember hearing Metallica sold out way back when the black album came out.

I like it and everything before it.

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

21 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

They didn’t sell out they evolved like most bands with staying power. I hate them and think they are awful but you can’t discount their legacy. 

I get what they did with "Load" and "Re-load." 

Grunge was on top, so they shifted away from crazy riffs and solos to a more southern bluesy metal sounds with lots of rich textures.

"Death Magnetic" came along at just the right time, particularly "All Nightmare Long," which could have been the soundtrack for what I experienced during and after Hurricane Ike.

"Crawl through the wreckage one more time ... "