Step down Joe

[The Real timschochet 6,695]

So I’ve made no bones about the fact that, though I dislike Joe Biden, I think he’s done a pretty good job as President. And if he is on the ballot next year I will happily vote for him again, especially if the opponent is, as appears will be, Donald Trump. 

But…

Unlike some here, I believe in polls. Polls don’t lie. And every poll I’ve been reading lately tell me the same damn things: 

1. Biden’s  ratings remain dismally low. We’ve been told that this will change when people see the results of the infrastructure bill or the Reduce Inflation Act. We’ve been told this will change when folks start to feel better about the economy. But guess what? It’s not happening. And there’s no reason to believe it will happen a year from now. Public attitudes about Joe Biden seem to be entrenched. 

2. The public thinks he’s too old. Personally I don’t see anything wrong with Joe’s faculties, but the majority of Americans disagree. And this is not going to get any better. This issue is going to stick around all the way to the election. And there’s no good way to fight it. 

3. It was announced today that Hunter is going to be indicted next month. I still don’t think Joe had anything to do with this but at best it’s an unnecessary distraction. At worst it could be real trouble. Like Hillary’s emails, it’s a headache that we (those who want to see Democrats do well) don’t need. 
 

The bottom line is this: Trump could win. He could actually win. 
 

Since I do not want to see Trump win, I reluctantly have reached the conclusion that Joe Biden should announce that he is not seeking re-election. Now. Before it’s too late. 

 

 

[The Real timschochet 6,695]

As to who the candidate should be I’ve no idea at the moment. Anti-semite RFK Jr is a nonstarter. I like Kamala more than some, but she has even worse ratings than Biden. Gavin Newsom is slick and sleazy and unethical, sort of a California version of Bill Clinton, but he might make a good President. I’ve heard great things about Shapiro in Pennsylvania. 

[Ultra Max Power 214]

Amazes me how you guys will call RFK an antisemite, but not Joe Biden a racist. 

[shadrap 228]

it is apparent that Joe is not all there & people behind the scenes are running the country.   He will not run.  IMO

[The Real timschochet 6,695]

1 minute ago, Ultra Max Power said:

Amazes me how you guys will call RFK an antisemite, but not Joe Biden a racist. 

I have called Joe a racist at times. He’s an old fashioned racist though his policies are not racist IMO. RFK is a different animal altogether. 

[jonmx 2,429]

3 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said:

Amazes me how you guys will call RFK an antisemite, but not Joe Biden a racist. 

Biden is much close to being a pedophile and a racist than RFK jr is to being antisemetic.   It is a disgrace the lies the media gets away with and the idiots believe it. 

[MDC 7,326]

Biden and Trump should both step down but neither party has a viable alternative.

[Fnord 2,225]

Is there anyone at this point that wouldn't happily say goodbye to Biden and Trump both? Count me in.

[jerryskids 6,748]

I heard a quote today from Biden from April 2021.  It was amazing how much younger he sounded than he does now.  And he didn't sound young then.

 

[TheNewGirl 1,475]

41 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

So I’ve made no bones about the fact that, though I dislike Joe Biden, I think he’s done a pretty good job as President. And if he is on the ballot next year I will happily vote for him again, especially if the opponent is, as appears will be, Donald Trump. 

But…

Unlike some here, I believe in polls. Polls don’t lie. And every poll I’ve been reading lately tell me the same damn things: 

1. Biden’s  ratings remain dismally low. We’ve been told that this will change when people see the results of the infrastructure bill or the Reduce Inflation Act. We’ve been told this will change when folks start to feel better about the economy. But guess what? It’s not happening. And there’s no reason to believe it will happen a year from now. Public attitudes about Joe Biden seem to be entrenched. 

2. The public thinks he’s too old. Personally I don’t see anything wrong with Joe’s faculties, but the majority of Americans disagree. And this is not going to get any better. This issue is going to stick around all the way to the election. And there’s no good way to fight it. 

3. It was announced today that Hunter is going to be indicted next month. I still don’t think Joe had anything to do with this but at best it’s an unnecessary distraction. At worst it could be real trouble. Like Hillary’s emails, it’s a headache that we (those who want to see Democrats do well) don’t need. 
 

The bottom line is this: Trump could win. He could actually win. 
 

Since I do not want to see Trump win, I reluctantly have reached the conclusion that Joe Biden should announce that he is not seeking re-election. Now. Before it’s too late. 

 

 

1. I don't think it's working either.  It's going to take a lot longer than a year to recover, IMO. I am really starting to take note of the things that have increased in price, just when my hubs and I go out to dinner, things like that. 

2.  He is too old. He fumbles words, has problems ambulating, gets confused, and occasionally gets rude with people. He's taken over 300 days of vacations. Constantly checks his watch, leaves events early. If his faculties are indeed good, then he's an incredible rude man that gives NO indication that he cares about what he's doing. He's been an elected official in some regard for what, 50 years? There's probably nothing else he CAN or knows how to do. 

3. I think it's foolish to NOT think Joe had anything to do with Hunter. He absolutely used his position to get more money (10% for the big guy), and whatever other deals he struck. The whole family is a bunch of grifters; multiple businesses with money that's probably impossible to track, multiple email addresses, I mean...come on, man. All of it is shady as fock. 

[TheNewGirl 1,475]

4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I heard a quote today from Biden from April 2021.  It was amazing how much younger he sounded than he does now.  And he didn't sound young then.

 

I truly believe the Presidency ages you. If you look at Obama, he looks like he aged considerably thru his presidency. Biden truly reminds me of a dementia patient. His expressions, his movements, his speech. He does sound different now. 

Trump just goes and gets more work done. 

[TommyGavin 790]

52 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

So I’ve made no bones about the fact that, though I dislike Joe Biden, I think he’s done a pretty good job as President. And if he is on the ballot next year I will happily vote for him again, especially if the opponent is, as appears will be, Donald Trump. 

But…

Unlike some here, I believe in polls. Polls don’t lie. And every poll I’ve been reading lately tell me the same damn things: 

1. Biden’s  ratings remain dismally low. We’ve been told that this will change when people see the results of the infrastructure bill or the Reduce Inflation Act. We’ve been told this will change when folks start to feel better about the economy. But guess what? It’s not happening. And there’s no reason to believe it will happen a year from now. Public attitudes about Joe Biden seem to be entrenched. 

2. The public thinks he’s too old. Personally I don’t see anything wrong with Joe’s faculties, but the majority of Americans disagree. And this is not going to get any better. This issue is going to stick around all the way to the election. And there’s no good way to fight it. 

3. It was announced today that Hunter is going to be indicted next month. I still don’t think Joe had anything to do with this but at best it’s an unnecessary distraction. At worst it could be real trouble. Like Hillary’s emails, it’s a headache that we (those who want to see Democrats do well) don’t need. 
 

The bottom line is this: Trump could win. He could actually win. 

Since I do not want to see Trump win, I reluctantly have reached the conclusion that Joe Biden should announce that he is not seeking re-election. Now. Before it’s too late. 

 

 

[jerryskids 6,748]

6 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

I truly believe the Presidency ages you. If you look at Obama, he looks like he aged considerably thru his presidency. Biden truly reminds me of a dementia patient. His expressions, his movements, his speech. He does sound different now. 

Trump just goes and gets more work done. 

I certainly agree.  I don't like to say he is too old because it is ageist and lazy, but I can't think of a better adjective to encapsulate "he's showing severe mental degradation due to his age."

Jill should pull him aside and say we did it Hon, let's retire after this term and enjoy the grandkids.

[seafoam1 2,963]

10 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I certainly agree.  I don't like to say he is too old because it is ageist and lazy, but I can't think of a better adjective to encapsulate "he's showing severe mental degradation due to his age."

Jill should pull him aside and say we did it Hon, let's retire after this term and enjoy the grandkids.

Some of his grandkids. He doesn't acknowledge all of them. 

[jerryskids 6,748]

12 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Some of his grandkids. He doesn't acknowledge all of them. 

Yeah, I thought of that, but it didn't go with the feel-good message I was trying to convey.

[The Real timschochet 6,695]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Yeah, I thought of that, but it didn't go with the feel-good message I was trying to convey.

Such a prik move. It’s one reason I really dislike the guy. What a total a$$hole he must be. 

[The Real timschochet 6,695]

Reminds me of Tommy Lasorda, the old Dodgers manager. I was a fan as a kid. But when his son died of AIDS he wouldn’t acknowledge it. Lasorda was embarrassed that his baseball buddies might find out. He told everyone it was cancer and then held a funeral. His son’s boyfriend of many years was not invited. Really awful. 

[BunnysBastatrds 2,418]

 I thought he did. If not, why are all of the closet football gheys here?  I’m confused.

[thegeneral 3,141]

Biden versus Trump is embarrassing. I was convinced Biden would step aside this summer and announce he would not seek re-election. Ego and the trappings of that job are hard to walk away from. I get that.

Biden won the election he gets to do what he wants.

I do think there is a chance Biden does step aside. But not really sure how that would work at this point in terms of how they figure out the nom. 

[shorepatrol 1,870]

3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Personally I don’t see anything wrong with Joe’s faculties

 

JFC 

[Voltaire 5,297]

He's already said a few bajillion times that he's running again and I hope he does because he's likely to lose to Trump. If he doesn't run, I'm worried the Dems may turn to somebody with better odds.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,325]

2 hours ago, Fnord said:

Is there anyone at this point that wouldn't happily say goodbye to Biden and Trump both? Count me in.

I would happily sacrifice them both if the D didnt have every candidate being even further left

 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

The bottom line is this: Trump could win. He could actually win. 

Could?  Wake up, dude.  Trump has already closed what was a huge deficit, and he did it without debating or even campaigning.  Latest Presidential Odds, courtesy of MGM Canada:

Biden +175

Trump +225

If you corrupt LeftTards had just ignored the guy he’d be irrelevant right now.  But instead you weaponized and corrupted the Justice departments to influence an election.  And in doing so you made a lot of people really really angry.

I am going back on my word and will be voting for Trump.  Not because I like him.  Not because he’s a good leader, and not because he’s a good role model.  But because he’s the lesser of 2 evils - the other evil being the American Left.

[thegeneral 3,141]

23 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

Could?  Wake up, dude.  Trump has already closed what was a huge deficit, and he did it without debating or even campaigning.  Latest Presidential Odds, courtesy of MGM Canada:

Biden +175

Trump +225

If you corrupt LeftTards had just ignored the guy he’d be irrelevant right now.  But instead you weaponized and corrupted the Justice departments to influence the election.  And in doing so you made a lot of people really really angry.

I am going back on my word and will be voting for Trump.  Not because I like him.  Not because he’s a good leader, and not because he’s a good role model.  But because he’s the lesser of 2 evils - the other evil being the American Left.

I don’t buy this for a second. Trump has been the Republican front runner the entire time. Then when DeSantis turned out to be a total putz it was game over.

The system isn’t weaponized against Trump, he’s a sloppy mess who breaks laws all over the place. If the Republicans in the Senate had half a sack they would have finished him off in January before Biden took the oath. They had their chance and kicked the can down the road. 

 

[RogerDodger 798]

59 minutes ago, shorepatrol said:

JFC 

Dont worry, he'll change his mind on that tomorrow or next month.  Just like he did this: 

Giant foking blowhard just looking for a reaction. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

17 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I don’t buy this for a second. Trump has been the Republican front runner the entire time. Then when DeSantis turned out to be a total putz it was game over.

The system isn’t weaponized against Trump, he’s a sloppy mess who breaks laws all over the place. If the Republicans in the Senate had half a sack they would have finished him off in January before Biden took the oath. They had their chance and kicked the can down the road. 

Check this out.  Trump didn’t overtake Desantis until April.  In January Desantis had a large lead over Trump - 35% to 15%

[thegeneral 3,141]

6 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

Check this out.  Trump didn’t overtake Desantis until April.  In January Desantis had a large lead over Trump - 35% to 15%

Those are betting odds. In the polls Trump has been the guy the whole time Link 

At least that’s how I recall.

I agree that him being indicted has seemed to help him. Very bizarre. The other candidates being lame and the odd, undying love for Trump is the thing though. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

i think the dems want Newsom if Biden steps down, but we have not seen any polling for a Newsom vs Trump matchup.  Maybe he polls extremely poorly so the dems may be trying to push Biden across the finish line again.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Sometimes I think the GOP would fare a lot better if they did not disclose who the nominee was until the last possible second.  gives the MSM less ammo.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,418]

1 hour ago, JustinCharge said:

Sometimes I think the GOP would fare a lot better if they did not disclose who the nominee was until the last possible second.  gives the MSM less ammo.

 It actually doesn’t  It doesn’t matter when. The media is  armed and ready for whomever now. They knew nothing about Palin and within days knew if she shaved her poosay clean or has an airstrip bush. The complete opposite of how they handle dems like Obama. The media is now the fourth branch of government whether or not you want it to be. It’s jus a matter of time till they really go after the Judical branch.

 

 

 

 

 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

1 minute ago, BunnysBastatrds said:

 It actually doesn’t  It doesn’t matter when. The media is  armed and ready for whomever now. They knew nothing about Palin and within days knew if she shaved her poosay clean or has an airstrip bush. The complete opposite of how they handle dems like Obama. The media is now the fourth branch of government whether or not you want it to be. It’s jus a matter of time till they really go after the Judical branch.

i think it takes time for the msm to program the people. so it might work.  even a 3% shift could be the difference.

[The Real timschochet 6,695]

9 minutes ago, BunnysBastatrds said:

 It actually doesn’t  It doesn’t matter when. The media is  armed and ready for whomever now. They knew nothing about Palin and within days knew if she shaved her poosay clean or has an airstrip bush. The complete opposite of how they handle dems like Obama. The media is now the fourth branch of government whether or not you want it to be. It’s jus a matter of time till they really go after the Judical branch.

 

 

 

 

 

Totally inaccurate as well as crude and stupid. Nice combo! 

[SUXBNME 1,487]

13 minutes ago, BunnysBastatrds said:

 . The media is now the fourth branch of government whether or not you want it to be. It’s jus a matter of time till they really go after the Judical branch.

 

 

 

 

 

Well said, my friend. 

[SUXBNME 1,487]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Totally inaccurate as well as crude and stupid. Nice combo! 

Much like your mom 

[BunnysBastatrds 2,418]

8 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

i think it takes time for the msm to program the people. so it might work.  even a 3% shift could be the difference.

 They are taught incrementalism tactics to form opinion. Don’t try and change minds all at once. It takes time.Baby steps and then bigger steps. Might take years and decades. But there is a goal. And it’s a battle for all sides who all use it. IT’s fundamental political strategy in this split country of partisanship. All are at fault for allowing no term limits for congress. We’re fawked until we do. And they know it. Which is why I’ll never see it in my lifetime. 

 

[BunnysBastatrds 2,418]

11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Totally inaccurate as well as crude and stupid. Nice combo! 

Crude? I’m fawking bored and want to hear how.Pop rn and a brew. 

[The Real timschochet 6,695]

7 minutes ago, BunnysBastatrds said:

Crude? I’m fawking bored and want to hear how.Pop rn and a brew. 

Lol you must be bored to concern yourself with Sarah Palin&/ privates. 

[BunnysBastatrds 2,418]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Lol you must be bored to concern yourself with Sarah Palin&/ privates. 

 Wow. Just WOW. That’s your intellectual response and rebuttal? It’s an example you  blind ignorant follower. Do you have an intelligent coherent response other than the one above? I hope so. I don’t know how to respond now. But will full throttle if you do. 

 

[Engorgeous George 2,309]

48 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Lol you must be bored to concern yourself with Sarah Palin&/ privates. 

Your mind never wandered, even when Tina Fey impersonated her?  Never?

 

Mine did.  Just as mine wanders about Kristi Noem or AOC, or both at the same time.  Perhaps you are too busy reading polls to allow the mental dalliance.  Such a shame.  Imagination should be encouraged.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,317]

If Newsome runs then California is the main theme. How the hell is he going to defend what’s gone on there to the rest of the country? Normal people are fleeing California in droves, as are many businesses. Homeless drug addicts have taken over whole areas of cities. Shoplifting is legal. Good luck.