Philadelphia - Large Crowds of people have started a riot and loot multiple stores

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9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

There is no evidence that there is any link between the policies of more liberal district attorneys and increased violent crime. 

JFC 

[Engorgeous George 2,131]

23 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Gotta get the liquor 

 

Looks like the security rolldowns did little to stop them.

These particular looters seemed unoprepared.  If they had shopoping bags or backpacks they could have carried much more.

As for the Kyle Rittenhouse signal, he was an idiot.  His presence at any event could only serve to inflate chaos.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

Murders and violent crime in Portland way up. Again, Soros DA.  

[The Real timschochet 6,421]

6 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

JFC 

I’ve read dozens of articles on this. They’re mostly opinion pieces. Actual facts are short in supply. Violent crime is always tied to economic conditions; we have decades of data to prove that. But there has never been any evidence that tougher penalties serve as a deterrence, or that justice reform serves to increase crime levels. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

Yeah, all this thieving at stores is about poverty, not about letting those crimes go without prosecuting them. They're just trying to eat, like in Le Mis. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Such nonsense. 

Thugs are thugs. They’re not leftist, they’re not conservative. The left doesn’t encourage or cheer on thuggery. 

The Left has facilitated crime.  Fact.  They decriminalized shoplifting for crying out loud.

[listen2me 23 1,825]

19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s not simple. And no it’s not common sense that more or rougher imprisonment deters crime. In fact there’s a lot of evidence against that. 

The liberal viewpoint, that we need prison reform, justice reform, and most of all police reform, are important and solid ideas backed by years of analysis and study. Because they don’t feel right to you as a conservative you make snap judgments about their wisdom and effectiveness that have no bearing on reality. 
 

I am not arguing that every liberal solution is the right one, nor am I suggesting that every point you and other conservatives have made here is necessarily wrong. But I strongly reject simplistic approaches to complex problems, and knee jerk reactions, and this is one of the main attributes of the current Trump led Republican Party IMO. 

A lot of repeat offenders out there.  Even Dems say it.  So yes locking up these people for longer is better for the community.   

If kids don't want to use their chores money they put it in a piggy bank so they don't.   

If you don't want the same dirtbags committing the same crimes then don't let them.  They can't behind bars.  

This isn't rocket science.  It isn't like daddy is going away and cant be there for his kid.  Daddy aint there anyway.  Maybe daddy's habits wont rub off on junior if he is sent away.  

[Voltaire 5,198]

11 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Looks like the security rolldowns did little to stop them.

These particular looters seemed unoprepared.  If they had shopoping bags or backpacks they could have carried much more.

As for the Kyle Rittenhouse signal, he was an idiot.  His presence at any event could only serve to inflate chaos.

Kyle Rittenhouse is an ordinary person who got caught up in a bad situation because he ws trying to keep order and save his community in a situation where the police have lost control, either can't or won't do their job.. 

When the animals are on the loose and the authorities are nowhere to be found, you want the Kyle Rittenhouses and the rooftop Koreans and whatever brave ordinary people around to care enough to volunteer. I have nothing but respect for him.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

3 hours ago, Voltaire said:

He's right about all those things. The mayor of Seattle surrendered a police precinct to the rioters/looters and called it the Summer of Love despite self declared warlords taking over until people starting dying. Kamala Harris did raise money for the looters and rioters in Minnesota, people just protesting were never charted with anything and released, all the money raised went to arsonists/rioters/looters. George Soros does fund all these soft on crime prosectors. It's would come across as well informed but it's not true. It's amazing how ignorant you are about everything... including how you claim to have never heard of Ibrahim X. Kendi which seems damn near impossible but at least it is consistent with the rest of the things you don't know about.

Okay well fock you, .

Seattle - true. Do you even live there though? So quit your focking whining.

Soros - not even really possible. Prosecutors are employed by the city/county/state/feds. They are not privately paid for. Any focking dumbsh1t should know that.

Kamala - she didn’t fund raise but she did support people donating to an organization. That was not smart since the organization failed to vet who they were helping. Just one of the reasons I’ve never supported her anyway, assh0le

This Ibrahim person, I’ve said it many times now, I’ve not focking heard of him and I don’t give a sh1t. I probably don’t support whatever he was pushing either.

So, again, kiss my ass

[listen2me 23 1,825]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’ve read dozens of articles on this. They’re mostly opinion pieces. Actual facts are short in supply. Violent crime is always tied to economic conditions; we have decades of data to prove that. But there has never been any evidence that tougher penalties serve as a deterrence, or that justice reform serves to increase crime levels. 

If you have dirtbags run the streets.  If you have drugs all over a community.....the people with money move away.  Stores and jobs move away.  

So your way of helping an areas economic conditions is to deter normals with money and business away? 

Logic 101.  BRILLIANT 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Okay well fock you, .

Seattle - true. Do you even live there though? So quit your focking whining.

Soros - not even really possible. Prosecutors are employed by the city/county/state/feds. They are not privately paid for. Any focking dumbsh1t should know that.

Kamala - she didn’t fund raise but she did support people donating to an organization. That was not smart since the organization failed to vet who they were helping. Just one of the reasons I’ve never supported her anyway, assh0le

This Ibrahim person, I’ve said it many times now, I’ve not focking heard of him and I don’t give a sh1t. I probably don’t support whatever he was pushing either.

So, again, kiss my ass

Lol! Soros doesn’t spend money on DA’s now. Lol. Good one worms. 

[Engorgeous George 2,131]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’ve read dozens of articles on this. They’re mostly opinion pieces. Actual facts are short in supply. Violent crime is always tied to economic conditions; we have decades of data to prove that. But there has never been any evidence that tougher penalties serve as a deterrence, or that justice reform serves to increase crime levels. 

What were the crime trends following the Violent Crime Control and law Enforcement act of 1994.  I know you are aware of them as you frequently try to tout the assualt weapons ban statistics.  There were other programs and initiatives in that Bill.  What were their apparent effects.  Which way did crime trend when the democrats tried to get tough on crime.  which way are they trending now that Democratic reforms have been introduced into the system?  Even with cooked statistics and new definitions the evidence is there.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Lol! Soros doesn’t spend money on DA’s now. Lol. Good one worms. 

Show me where he pays salaries of line prosecutors.

Oh he doesn’t, right?

So what you actually mean — but lie and misrepresent — is that he’s donated to DA races.

So focking what? That’s called politics. I don’t love the influence of money either but was your stupid ass born yesterday?

[Engorgeous George 2,131]

5 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Kyle Rittenhouse is an ordinary person who got caught up in a bad situation because he ws trying to keep order and save his community in a situation where the police have lost control, either can't or won't do their job.. 

When the animals are on the loose and the authorities are nowhere to be found, you want the Kyle Rittenhouses and the rooftop Koreans and whatever brave ordinary people around to care enough to volunteer. I have nothing but respect for him.

I want adults, with mature judgment, and a plan.  i do not want kids with grandiose ideas, no experience or judgment, and no reasonable plan.  I admire his motivation.  I condem his stupidity.

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9 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Has anyone ever been against the criminal prosecution of looters and rioters? I mean anywhere?

Well I guess the republicans for the January 6 insurrectionists, but I mean democrats.

I certainly haven’t seen it here at the geek club, anyways 

Maybe you need to reconsider this whole "online" thing.  You're not very good at it.  In fact, I would say you're EXCEPTIONALLY bad at it.

Pro-Tip: You should NOT post every crazy, nonsensical lie or gaslight opportunity that pops into your head.  At the very least, maybe take 10 minutes to think about it before you hit "Submit Reply".

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Workboots department was untouched....

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3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Show me where he pays salaries of line prosecutors.

Oh he doesn’t, right?

So what you actually mean — but lie and misrepresent — is that he’s donated to DA races.

So focking what? That’s called politics. I don’t love the influence of money either but was your stupid ass born yesterday?

Yeah, he has no criteria for his donations. He just likes some of the them. 

[Cloaca du jour 2,147]

11 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

 

Is that Kamala Filming???  The cackles

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19 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Okay well fock you, .

Seattle - true. Do you even live there though? So quit your focking whining.

Soros - not even really possible. Prosecutors are employed by the city/county/state/feds. They are not privately paid for. Any focking dumbsh1t should know that.

Kamala - she didn’t fund raise but she did support people donating to an organization. That was not smart since the organization failed to vet who they were helping. Just one of the reasons I’ve never supported her anyway, assh0le

This Ibrahim person, I’ve said it many times now, I’ve not focking heard of him and I don’t give a sh1t. I probably don’t support whatever he was pushing either.

So, again, kiss my ass

If you don't live there, even though it's true, you can't use that as an example!

Oh, and if I haven't heard of the guy you can't use that as an example either!

[Voltaire 5,198]

31 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Okay well fock you, .

Seattle - true. Do you even live there though? So quit your focking whining.

Soros - not even really possible. Prosecutors are employed by the city/county/state/feds. They are not privately paid for. Any focking dumbsh1t should know that.

Kamala - she didn’t fund raise but she did support people donating to an organization. That was not smart since the organization failed to vet who they were helping. Just one of the reasons I’ve never supported her anyway, assh0le

This Ibrahim person, I’ve said it many times now, I’ve not focking heard of him and I don’t give a sh1t. I probably don’t support whatever he was pushing either.

So, again, kiss my ass

Some people may may be forgiven for not noticing that prosecutors are elected officials, not employees; Now, if they vote, they should know, since the office appears on their ballot but most Democrats are like that and just do what they're told. When you see lawyers who are oblivious as to how their own profession is organized, that would seem particularly shocking but since they also don't know who Ibrahim X. Kendi is, it makes more sense.

For people who aren't you, George Soros targets these sleepy prosecutor elections with political activist prosecutors who search for equity and don't want to put criminals in jail. And that's why he's relevant in these discussions about city prosecutors. https://nypost.com/2023/01/22/george-soros-spent-40m-getting-lefty-district-attorneys-officials-elected-all-over-the-country/

.I don't live in Seattle, no. While I find the local politics entertaining, its more like horror movies are entertaining, I wouldn't want to actually live there and get any on me. Hey, speaking of the Pacific Northwest,  I  happen to notice there's even a prosecutor race where you live, since you don't seem to know these things:: https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2023/08/multnomah-county-da-race-draws-money-from-betsy-johnson-kate-brown-political-action-committees.html

 

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31 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Okay well fock you, .

Seattle - true. Do you even live there though? So quit your focking whining.

Soros - not even really possible. Prosecutors are employed by the city/county/state/feds. They are not privately paid for. Any focking dumbsh1t should know that.

Kamala - she didn’t fund raise but she did support people donating to an organization. That was not smart since the organization failed to vet who they were helping. Just one of the reasons I’ve never supported her anyway, assh0le

This Ibrahim person, I’ve said it many times now, I’ve not focking heard of him and I don’t give a sh1t. I probably don’t support whatever he was pushing either.

So, again, kiss my ass

Check out this whiner. 

This person represents everything that is wrong with America. Just plain liberal ignorance. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

The book 1984 is written about people just like you.

The book Mein Kampf was written for people just like you.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

41 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Some people may may be forgiven for not noticing that prosecutors are elected officials, not employees; Now, if they vote, they should know, since the office appears on their ballot but most Democrats are like that and just do what they're told. When you see lawyers who are oblivious as to how their own profession is organized, that would seem particularly shocking but since they also don't know who Ibrahim X. Kendi is, it makes more sense.

For people who aren't you, George Soros targets these sleepy prosecutor elections with political activist prosecutors who search for equity and don't want to put criminals in jail. And that's why he's relevant in these discussions about city prosecutors. https://nypost.com/2023/01/22/george-soros-spent-40m-getting-lefty-district-attorneys-officials-elected-all-over-the-country/

.I don't live in Seattle, no. While I find the local politics entertaining, its more like horror movies are entertaining, I wouldn't want to actually live there and get any on me. Hey, speaking of the Pacific Northwest,  I  happen to notice there's even a prosecutor race where you live, since you don't seem to know these things:: https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2023/08/multnomah-county-da-race-draws-money-from-betsy-johnson-kate-brown-political-action-committees.html

 

99% of prosecutors are not elected, dummy. 

Also I don’t live in multnomah county

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah, he has no criteria for his donations. He just likes some of the them. 

I didn’t say that, moron. What I said is that ONE district attorney out of an office of scores or hundreds of prosecutors is elected, that yes money plays a role in that election as it does every focking election (were you born yesterday? ), and that of course no line prosecutors yet alone any DA is actually paid their salary by George Soros

[The Real timschochet 6,421]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

Okay well fock you, .

Seattle - true. Do you even live there though? So quit your focking whining.

Soros - not even really possible. Prosecutors are employed by the city/county/state/feds. They are not privately paid for. Any focking dumbsh1t should know that.

Kamala - she didn’t fund raise but she did support people donating to an organization. That was not smart since the organization failed to vet who they were helping. Just one of the reasons I’ve never supported her anyway, assh0le

This Ibrahim person, I’ve said it many times now, I’ve not focking heard of him and I don’t give a sh1t. I probably don’t support whatever he was pushing either.

So, again, kiss my ass

I really hate this response. 
 

I agree with almost all of your points here, and strongly disagree with Voltaire. But he didn’t insult you in any way. He is one of the few people here who never offer personal insults to anyone. He is a class act who states his opinion and is willing to engage in back and forth intelligent discussion. We could use a lot more of that, and a lot less of your insults, IMO. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I really hate this response. 
 

I agree with almost all of your points here, and strongly disagree with Voltaire. But he didn’t insult you in any way. He is one of the few people here who never offer personal insults to anyone. He is a class act who states his opinion and is willing to engage in back and forth intelligent discussion. We could use a lot more of that, and a lot less of your insults, IMO. 

“It's amazing how ignorant you are about everything... including how you claim to have never heard of Ibrahim X. Kendi which seems damn near impossible but at least it is consistent with the rest of the things you don't know about.”

Yeah real classy and respectful.

And I don’t really give a damn what you think of my responses. HTH

[The Real timschochet 6,421]

Just now, IGotWorms said:

“It's amazing how ignorant you are about everything... including how you claim to have never heard of Ibrahim X. Kendi which seems damn near impossible but at least it is consistent with the rest of the things you don't know about.”

Yeah real classy and respectful.

And I don’t really give a damn what you think of my responses. HTH

Lol OK. 

[Horseman 2,365]

8 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

99% of prosecutors are not elected, dummy. 

Also I don’t live in multnomah county

 

3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I didn’t say that, moron. What I said is that ONE district attorney out of an office of scores or hundreds of prosecutors is elected, that yes money plays a role in that election as it does every focking election (were you born yesterday? ), and that of course no line prosecutors yet alone any DA is actually paid their salary by George Soros

When the elected DA gets to appoint the ADAs it's a distinction without a difference when making the claim about being elected.  In reality, for a bought DA it's even better that way.  

[DonS 3,292]

1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said:

If you have dirtbags run the streets.  If you have drugs all over a community.....the people with money move away.  Stores and jobs move away.  

Just read this article on a local news site regarding two Seattle area Targets closing due to crime.  Kinda surprised the one near Pike Place Market wasn't one of them.

https://mynorthwest.com/3932815/target-close-2-seattle-stores-citing-crime-safety/

 

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2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

There is no evidence that there is any link between the policies of more liberal district attorneys and increased violent crime. 

I'll give you credit for slipping the adjective of violent in there.  Because it's getting hard to refute the turning the other cheek to property crimes isn't working out.

[Casual Observer 597]

3 hours ago, MDC said:

I’m on the L now - scary! I’ll let you know how it goes.  

Throw yourself in the midst of one of these looting sprees and tell me how it goes.

[Strike 5,186]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’ve read dozens of articles on this.

No you haven't.  HTH

[MDC 7,129]

4 minutes ago, Casual Observer said:

Throw yourself in the midst of one of these looting sprees and tell me how it goes.

I’ve lived in Philly for 20 years and never once was mugged or assaulted. I did witness a bum fight that devolved into a knifing once though.

You’d have crapped your pants.  

[listen2me 23 1,825]

11 minutes ago, DonS said:

Just read this article on a local news site regarding two Seattle area Targets closing due to crime.  Kinda surprised the one near Pike Place Market wasn't one of them.

https://mynorthwest.com/3932815/target-close-2-seattle-stores-citing-crime-safety/

 

Closing 2 in Seattle.   Also 7 others.....

How pathetic is it that we can guess the cities off the top of our head and land pretty on them?

[listen2me 23 1,825]

Just now, MDC said:

I’ve lived in Philly for 20 years and never once was mugged or assaulted. I did witness a bum fight that devolved into a knifing once though.

You’d have crapped your pants.  

20 years in Philly but no idea where to find weed? 

Man I bet you have really seen some stuff in your day.

:bandanaman:

[MDC 7,129]

Just now, listen2me 23 said:

20 year in Philly but no idea where to find weed? 

Man I bet you have really seen some stuff in your day.

:bandanaman:

I don’t hang out with potheads Focker.

[Casual Observer 597]

8 minutes ago, MDC said:

I’ve lived in Philly for 20 years and never once was mugged or assaulted. I did witness a bum fight that devolved into a knifing once though.

You’d have crapped your pants.  

You live in Fishtown.  If you've only witnessed one bum fight the entire time, you've huddled inside as much as possible as you've already admitted.  Please post your delusions elsewhere as they are no longer even funny and clutter the bored more than Rusty Doosh's delusional ramblings.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

49 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I didn’t say that, moron. What I said is that ONE district attorney out of an office of scores or hundreds of prosecutors is elected, that yes money plays a role in that election as it does every focking election (were you born yesterday? ), and that of course no line prosecutors yet alone any DA is actually paid their salary by George Soros

Well, the DA hires and fires his underlings. Oh that’s right. You don’t know how a DA’s office operates. 

[MDC 7,129]

4 minutes ago, Casual Observer said:

You live in Fishtown.  If you've only witnessed one bum fight the entire time, you've huddled inside as much as possible as you've already admitted.  Please post your delusions elsewhere as they are no longer even funny and clutter the bored more than Rusty Doosh's delusional ramblings.

I like when he tells people what to do.  

[Casual Observer 597]

7 minutes ago, MDC said:

I like when he tells people what to do.  

Someone has to tell you that your posts suck.