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Are we living on stolen or conquered land here in the United States? 
 

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1 minute ago, peenie said:

Are we living on stolen or conquered land here in the United States? 
 

All land is stolen and conquered.

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1 minute ago, peenie said:

Are we living on stolen or conquered land here in the United States? 
 

Conquered. But if you want to give your piece of that land back go ahead. 

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Just now, peenie said:

Are we living on stolen or conquered land here in the United States? 
 

No, we traded casinos to the Indians for it. 

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That land called Palestine was a Muslim country for centuries. Not everyone that has been conquered goes away peacefully forever. I have no opinion other than that. 

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During the Gulf War, the first time I heard explosions nearby BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! I was scared to death and dove under a truck, which may not have been terribly smart as it had a fuel tank that could explode, but I didn't want any flying shrapnel either. I soon realized that nothing around me was exploding, nobody was shouting, the ground wasn't shaking. No, what I'd heard was us shooting at them for the first time.

Fortunately, I never did find out what it was like to be on the receiving end of a missile, only the sending end. Those of us in maintenance were a mile or three behind the M1A2s and Bradleys on the front line. Nearby, making all that noise, was the field artillery.

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10 minutes ago, peenie said:

That land called Palestine was a Muslim country for centuries. Not everyone that has been conquered goes away peacefully forever. I have no opinion other than that. 

It was Israel before it was Palestine. So we can keep playing that game.  Just for history I believe Jews predates Muslims by over 1000 years so the argument is invalid 

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Will look into how this compares to prior years when I get a chance.

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20 minutes ago, peenie said:

That land called Palestine was a Muslim country for centuries. Not everyone that has been conquered goes away peacefully forever. I have no opinion other than that. 

My understanding is Egypt held Gaza and picked a fight with Israel back in the 60s and lost.  As part of that conflict Israel claimed Gaza.  That's usually the way wars are settled.  Two countries get in a fight and territory changes hands.  

But the concept of Palestine being it's own country for centuries appears false.  It was conquered by the ottoman's who held it until world war I.  Then various factions have been fighting over the area ever since.  I'm sure it was conquered dozens of times before the Ottomans showed up.

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24 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

It was Israel before it was Palestine. So we can keep playing that game.  Just for history I believe Jews predates Muslims by over 1000 years so the argument is invalid 

MJCA

Make Jerusalem Christian Again

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Not sure about this, but someone asserted that Egypt wanted to drive a population of Arabs out of Gaza and have Gaza. Egypt didn't want Gaza + the inhabitants. Supposedly nobody wanted to give refuge to those particular inhabitants back in the day.

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55 minutes ago, peenie said:

That land called Palestine was a Muslim country for centuries. Not everyone that has been conquered goes away peacefully forever. I have no opinion other than that. 

How many centuries makes it's ok to behead babies in the 21st century?

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Israel should do a leaflet bombing campaign for a week straight. Open up a human rights corridor into egypt and tell everyone that leaves they have safe passage. If you stay you die. Then level all of the west bank. 

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15 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

Israel should do a leaflet bombing campaign for a week straight. Open up a human rights corridor into egypt and tell everyone that leaves they have safe passage. If you stay you die. Then level all of the west bank. 

Doesn't Israel already occupy the west bank?

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5 minutes ago, nobody said:

Doesn't Israel already occupy the west bank?

Sorry the Gaza strip 

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48 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

Israel should do a leaflet bombing campaign for a week straight. Open up a human rights corridor into egypt and tell everyone that leaves they have safe passage. If you stay you die. Then level all of the west bank. 

OK I’m going to re-enter this thread because it’s too important not to discuss. I’ll simply try to ignore the anti-Semites. 
 

To your point, Israel has just done the exact opposite. They have bombed the road to Egypt, blocking all exits for Palestinians. 

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45 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

OK I’m going to re-enter this thread because it’s too important not to discuss. I’ll simply try to ignore the anti-Semites. 
 

To your point, Israel has just done the exact opposite. They have bombed the road to Egypt, blocking all exits for Palestinians. 

I would think bombing exits so they can rescue hostages.

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On 10/9/2023 at 10:14 AM, The Real timschochet said:

Hey guys much as I would love to continue to discuss this subject, I find this CDub guy’s comments so distasteful that I really don’t want to participate. If that was his goal, mission accomplished. I’ll bow out so long as he keeps posting his hate. 

Hey guys, Tim is a pompous liar with zero self control. 

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

OK I’m going to re-enter this thread because it’s too important not to discuss. I’ll simply try to ignore the anti-Semites. 
 

To your point, Israel has just done the exact opposite. They have bombed the road to Egypt, blocking all exits for Palestinians. 

To me that means they intend wholesale slaughter of the Palestinians. 

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:doh: Go figure.

Ilhan Omar condemns Israel’s military response to Hamas

Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., attacked Israel's response to an unprecedented assault by Hamas in an extensive thread on social media Monday.

Omar, a longtime critic of Israel and advocate for Palestinians, seemed to equate the Israeli victims killed by Hamas terrorists this weekend and Palestinians killed in the ongoing Israeli response.

"Just as we honor the humanity of the hundreds of innocent Israeli civilians and 9 Americans who were killed this weekend, we must honor the humanity of the innocent Palestinian civilians who have been killed and whose lives are upended," she wrote.

Omar went on to highlight the hardships of living in Gaza, accusing Israel of operating an "apartheid" state in an attempt to explain violence by Hamas.

"Palestinian residents of the West Bank have scarcely better lives than Gazans — with the routine destruction of their ancestral homes, destruction of their crops, and violent attacks by Israeli settlers," Omar wrote on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.

Omar's office did not respond to questions from Fox News Digital asking her to elaborate on the thread.

The congresswoman did not clarify how she believed Israel should have responded to Saturday's attack, which has since left at least 1,000 Israelis dead and 2,700 more wounded. The Minnesota Democrat's only suggestion for a "solution to this horror" was "a negotiated peace — with Israelis and Palestinians enjoying equal rights and security guarantees."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-condemns-israels-military-response-hamas-solution-negotiated-peace

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1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

:doh: Go figure.

Ilhan Omar condemns Israel’s military response to Hamas

Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., attacked Israel's response to an unprecedented assault by Hamas in an extensive thread on social media Monday.

Omar, a longtime critic of Israel and advocate for Palestinians, seemed to equate the Israeli victims killed by Hamas terrorists this weekend and Palestinians killed in the ongoing Israeli response.

"Just as we honor the humanity of the hundreds of innocent Israeli civilians and 9 Americans who were killed this weekend, we must honor the humanity of the innocent Palestinian civilians who have been killed and whose lives are upended," she wrote.

Omar went on to highlight the hardships of living in Gaza, accusing Israel of operating an "apartheid" state in an attempt to explain violence by Hamas.

"Palestinian residents of the West Bank have scarcely better lives than Gazans — with the routine destruction of their ancestral homes, destruction of their crops, and violent attacks by Israeli settlers," Omar wrote on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.

Omar's office did not respond to questions from Fox News Digital asking her to elaborate on the thread.

The congresswoman did not clarify how she believed Israel should have responded to Saturday's attack, which has since left at least 1,000 Israelis dead and 2,700 more wounded. The Minnesota Democrat's only suggestion for a "solution to this horror" was "a negotiated peace — with Israelis and Palestinians enjoying equal rights and security guarantees."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-condemns-israels-military-response-hamas-solution-negotiated-peace

Well. I mean. She IS a terrorist sympathizer 

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6 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

:doh: Go figure.

Ilhan Omar condemns Israel’s military response to Hamas

Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., attacked Israel's response to an unprecedented assault by Hamas in an extensive thread on social media Monday.

Omar, a longtime critic of Israel and advocate for Palestinians, seemed to equate the Israeli victims killed by Hamas terrorists this weekend and Palestinians killed in the ongoing Israeli response.

"Just as we honor the humanity of the hundreds of innocent Israeli civilians and 9 Americans who were killed this weekend, we must honor the humanity of the innocent Palestinian civilians who have been killed and whose lives are upended," she wrote.

Omar went on to highlight the hardships of living in Gaza, accusing Israel of operating an "apartheid" state in an attempt to explain violence by Hamas.

"Palestinian residents of the West Bank have scarcely better lives than Gazans — with the routine destruction of their ancestral homes, destruction of their crops, and violent attacks by Israeli settlers," Omar wrote on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.

Omar's office did not respond to questions from Fox News Digital asking her to elaborate on the thread.

The congresswoman did not clarify how she believed Israel should have responded to Saturday's attack, which has since left at least 1,000 Israelis dead and 2,700 more wounded. The Minnesota Democrat's only suggestion for a "solution to this horror" was "a negotiated peace — with Israelis and Palestinians enjoying equal rights and security guarantees."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-condemns-israels-military-response-hamas-solution-negotiated-peace

Hopefully this will get her voted out 

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4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

and all the libs here support that biatch

 

No. We don’t. 
 

However I do support AOC’s statement condemning antisemitism at a pro-Palestine rally. 

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6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

and all the libs here support that biatch

 

No one does, shut up.

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Even if Palestine has legit beef, and honestly they may as that land has changed hands many times over history.  You lose all credibility and any support when you select a terrorist group like Hamas to lead. Even other Arab countries like Egypt don’t want Palestinians because they are nuts and a danger to society.  

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That’s how it works. BLM, DSA, Democrat pols, University facilities and student groups all support Palestine, er-go if you’re a Democrat you’re an anti-Semite. 

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4 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Your people do.

 

 

Oh so that means all queers support palestine.

You're not smart and lack deductive reasoning.  Stick to watching videos of dead babies.

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3 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

That’s how it works. BLM, DSA, Democrat pols, University facilities and student groups all support Palestine, er-go if you’re a Democrat you’re an anti-Semite. 

You idiots are so lame with your desperate attempts to make political gotchas.

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3 hours ago, nobody said:

My understanding is Egypt held Gaza and picked a fight with Israel back in the 60s and lost.  As part of that conflict Israel claimed Gaza.  That's usually the way wars are settled.  Two countries get in a fight and territory changes hands.  

But the concept of Palestine being it's own country for centuries appears false.  It was conquered by the ottoman's who held it until world war I.  Then various factions have been fighting over the area ever since.  I'm sure it was conquered dozens of times before the Ottomans showed up.

I don't believe the Egyptians want it now.  They've sealed that border pretty firmly from my understanding.  I think they've seen enough of their "brothers".

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I have to say, Biden is botching this pretty badly. Not all the pathetic attempts to blame him but there’s been no forceful response. At least not one that has broken through the noise. Feels like an absence of leadership at a critical time.

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