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37 minutes ago, Reality said:

I have to admit, cutting a check for 100 million dollars and handing it to Hamas is a move even I didn't see coming. 

I know this administration is probably the most inept in history but, I didn't think it could possibly be this bad. Unreal.

"We believe we have an understanding with Hamas..." :doh:

Even you focking idiots on the left have to admit this is a horrible idea.

 

But Hamas pinky promised.  

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40 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Anyway both sides can lose?

Both sides WILL lose, and I’m sure that will make a Jew hating, Muslim hating bigot like you happy. 

Hamas will see their leadership and most of their organization as it currently stands destroyed. They will gain nothing for their efforts other than to place the people they claim to lead in abject misery. Countless innocent Palestinians will suffer and die. 

Israel will spend billions, lose many of the IDF (and likely most of the hostages), create even more enmity and hatred and will be even less safe and secure in the long run than they are now. 
 

This is a tragedy of epic proportions. But hey, given your proclivities you should be delighted and cheering it on. 

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Having grown up with and lived around many Jews, I never knew how many of them hated Israel. That must be a new thing. 

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Almost no American Jews hate Israel. There are many American Jews, however, who are highly critical of past and present Israeli policies towards the Palestinians, especially those of the Netanyahu government. Only morons can’t tell the difference. 

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Almost no American Jews hate Israel. There are many American Jews, however, who are highly critical of past and present Israeli policies towards the Palestinians, especially those of the Netanyahu government. Only morons can’t tell the difference. 

Anti Semite just can't stay away!!! 🤣

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1 minute ago, Strike said:

Anti Semite just can't stay away!!! 🤣

Real Tim thinks Netanyahu caused this. It’s sick and ignorant, but he’s a leftist first. Always. 

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44 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Almost no American Jews hate Israel. There are many American Jews, however, who are highly critical of past and present Israeli policies towards the Palestinians, especially those of the Netanyahu government. Only morons can’t tell the difference. 

What policies are they against?

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57 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Both sides WILL lose, and I’m sure that will make a Jew hating, Muslim hating bigot like you happy. 

Hamas will see their leadership and most of their organization as it currently stands destroyed. They will gain nothing for their efforts other than to place the people they claim to lead in abject misery. Countless innocent Palestinians will suffer and die. 

Israel will spend billions, lose many of the IDF (and likely most of the hostages), create even more enmity and hatred and will be even less safe and secure in the long run than they are now. 
 

This is a tragedy of epic proportions. But hey, given your proclivities you should be delighted and cheering it on. 

The right loves war, as long as it's not with Russia.

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9 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

What policies are they against?

If you’re serious (and I doubt it) the harsh restrictions on Gaza and the West Bank, the continued advancement of settlements, the treatment of Palestinians within Israel as second class citizens, various war crimes over the years, and the refusal to accept a two state solution to the Israeli/Palestinian dilemma. 

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5 hours ago, Reality said:

I have to admit, cutting a check for 100 million dollars and handing it to Hamas is a move even I didn't see coming. 

I know this administration is probably the most inept in history but, I didn't think it could possibly be this bad. Unreal.

"We believe we have an understanding with Hamas..." :doh:

Even you focking idiots on the left have to admit this is a horrible idea.

 

I also heard recently from a Congressman or Senator (can't remember who) and he fought agaiinst it but the Biden administration also gave $3 plus billion to Iran , and the media didn't report about it as it was kept quiet.

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I missed it if it was mentioned, but the reason people tear down posters of kidnapped Israelis is because those posters humanize the victims.  It is very difficult to support an evil, soulless cult like Hamas if you have to face the fact that you support a group that seeks out Jewish babies, women, and innocent victims to torment.

For the same reason, the MSDNC inundates us with pictures of suffering Palestinians.  To increase their humanization in our eyes.

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How can you have a two state solution when one side never mind won’t acknowledge the other states right to exist, but state that their goal is to destroy it and the people within?

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3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Both sides WILL lose, and I’m sure that will make a Jew hating, Muslim hating bigot like you happy. 

Hamas will see their leadership and most of their organization as it currently stands destroyed. They will gain nothing for their efforts other than to place the people they claim to lead in abject misery. Countless innocent Palestinians will suffer and die. 

Israel will spend billions, lose many of the IDF (and likely most of the hostages), create even more enmity and hatred and will be even less safe and secure in the long run than they are now. 
 

This is a tragedy of epic proportions. But hey, given your proclivities you should be delighted and cheering it on. 

They really have you programed so well. Look how mad you are following me around all for a tribe that would sell you down the river for latva

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33 minutes ago, Reality said:

Probably the Crusades.

 

Good grief :(

Another of the dozens of breaking news stories I hear of first at the Geek Club over the last two decades.

thanks.

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3 hours ago, jerryskids said:

I missed it if it was mentioned, but the reason people tear down posters of kidnapped Israelis is because those posters humanize the victims.  It is very difficult to support an evil, soulless cult like Hamas if you have to face the fact that you support a group that seeks out Jewish babies, women, and innocent victims to torment.

For the same reason, the MSDNC inundates us with pictures of suffering Palestinians.  To increase their humanization in our eyes.

It’s not the same reason. It’s the exact opposite reason. We need to humanize Israelis AND Palestinians. 

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2 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

They really have you programed so well. Look how mad you are following me around all for a tribe that would sell you down the river for latva

Well it is my tribe Ya know. 
 

And don’t talk to me about programmed. I’m not the guy denying the Holocaust. Don’t you realize: how ridiculous and hateful you sound? You’re probably a decent guy in real life but your mind has clearly been twisted. 

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13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Well it is my tribe Ya know. 
 

And don’t talk to me about programmed. I’m not the guy denying the Holocaust. Don’t you realize: how ridiculous and hateful you sound? You’re probably a decent guy in real life but your mind has clearly been twisted. 

That explains a lot.

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29 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s not the same reason. It’s the exact opposite reason. We need to humanize Israelis AND Palestinians. 

Well, yeah.  The media understands the power of humanizing, or dehumanizing, people in order to influence the opinions of the masses.

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These protesters are a menace. Look like a bunch of criminals with their faces covered and chant like they're filled with anger and hate. 

 

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18 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

If you’re serious (and I doubt it) the harsh restrictions on Gaza and the West Bank, the continued advancement of settlements, the treatment of Palestinians within Israel as second class citizens, various war crimes over the years, and the refusal to accept a two state solution to the Israeli/Palestinian dilemma. 

I was following you until the last part.  Hasn’t Israel offered a two state solution many times over the years and the Palestinians always refuse?

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9 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Let's wait and see if she was murdered by someone screaming DEATH TO JEWS after listening to left wing talk radio.

Yeah honestly if this lady was trying to get Muslims and Jews to play nice, it probably could have been someone from either side who was against that.

Or a home invader that had no idea who she was.

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4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah honestly if this lady was trying to get Muslims and Jews to play nice, it probably could have been someone from either side who was against that.

Or a home invader that had no idea who she was.

At this point we don't know anything, unlike the trump supporter that murdered the kid and tried to murder his mom for being muslim

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US tax payers are funding Hamas. Biden didn't like the trouble of going through Iran, so, he gave it directly to Hamas.

 

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I’m not saying we should declare war on all Muslims like Gutterboy has stated, but we do have to at least scrutinize people that come from terrorist hot spots. 

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3 hours ago, Reality said:

US tax payers are funding Hamas. Biden didn't like the trouble of going through Iran, so, he gave it directly to Hamas.

 

You know the humanitarian aid is a 20-truck convoy delivering bottled water, food, medical supplies etc. and not cash right? 

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3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah honestly if this lady was trying to get Muslims and Jews to play nice, it probably could have been someone from either side who was against that.

Or a home invader that had no idea who she was.

 

Detroit's Muslim community is relatively peaceful, mild mannered, and decently assimilated, certainly compared to Europe. I had a ton of Muslim classmates in Wayne State University back in the day (there's a high probability I took classes alongside Rashida Talib), and they were good, kind people to me but my goodness, there was frequently a deep anti-Jewish resentments percolating under the surface.

With the rhetoric coming out of the Middle East being so toxic right now,  it doesn't surprise me that Dearborn would host a rally in support of Hamas, and that at least one murderous nutbag willing to go to extreme lengths to bring their Middle East resentments here has killed a prominent Jewish lady. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, the body count of murdered Jews on US soil since this terror strike two weeks ago is one... this one lady here in Detroit (I'm not holding my breathe on a different reason) ... or have there been more?  I did see some fights at rallies that brought two sides too close to each other.

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4 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I was following you until the last part.  Hasn’t Israel offered a two state solution many times over the years and the Palestinians always refuse?

Yes and no, but it’s too lengthy to get into. But I was referring to complaints against the Netanyahu government in particular. 

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1 hour ago, KSB2424 said:

As I said up thread, it is to dehumanize the victims.  You can't support a soulless, evil group like Hamas if you internalize the human atrocities they perform with a smile.

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