Maximum Overkill 1,884 Posted February 15, 2024 5 minutes ago, TimHauck said: The Lakewood Church shooter legally obtained HER gun AND IT DIDN'T AIM AND FIRE ITSELF. GUN + VIOLENT LIBERAL = BAD STUFF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 719 Posted February 15, 2024 I saw some crazy statistics the other day regarding where countries rank in gun violence. The US was at or near the top.......UNTIL...... If you removed the numbers from the top 5 violent cities....all Democrat run....the US drops to like 180 on the list. Can't find the link to verify but it makes sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,702 Posted February 15, 2024 Just now, Nomad99 said: I saw some crazy statistics the other day regarding where countries rank in gun violence. The US was at or near the top.......UNTIL...... If you removed the numbers from the top 5 violent cities....all Democrat run....the US drops to like 180 on the list. Can't find the link to verify but it makes sense. I think digby tried to cite this made up stat a few years ago. But it’s completely made up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,702 Posted February 15, 2024 1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said: AND IT DIDN'T AIM AND FIRE ITSELF. GUN + VIOLENT LIBERAL = BAD STUFF Did you see her video warning about pedo teachers? She may not have been a liberal after all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,884 Posted February 15, 2024 8 minutes ago, TimHauck said: The Lakewood Church shooter legally obtained HER gun REALLY?? Did IT have a permit to carry, NO! Did IT have a permit to transport, NO Did IT have a permit to KILL PEOPLE, NO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 719 Posted February 15, 2024 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: I think digby tried to cite this made up stat a few years ago. But it’s completely made up Like I said....couldn't verify. I do know that if you removed the self defense #'s it drops significantly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,022 Posted February 15, 2024 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/shooting-kansas-city-chiefs-super-bowl-celebration-union-station-rcna138883 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,702 Posted February 15, 2024 6 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: REALLY?? Did IT have a permit to carry, NO! Did IT have a permit to transport, NO Did IT have a permit to KILL PEOPLE, NO Do you need a permit to carry in Texas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,884 Posted February 15, 2024 Just now, TimHauck said: Do you need a permit to carry in Texas? Not on private property, aka a church Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,182 Posted February 15, 2024 51 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,253 Posted February 15, 2024 13 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: If only one legally armed civilian was there to stop this disaster. Think of how many lives could of been saved. One, from reports thus far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,182 Posted February 15, 2024 Thank god for the patriots that subdued these guys. There are still some strong men out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,779 Posted February 15, 2024 1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said: Dim bulb libs will just say it is the White Supremists killing all the blacks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,253 Posted February 15, 2024 1 hour ago, edjr said: Maholmes did it? what a sad fall from grace There was a time when suspects apprehended for a mass shooting would not be able to stand on their own after apprehension. Their clothes barely look mussed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,702 Posted February 15, 2024 39 minutes ago, Nomad99 said: Like I said....couldn't verify. I do know that if you removed the self defense #'s it drops significantly. Here’s the thread where digby (now known as @Stryker Ryker) showed once again how dumb he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,183 Posted February 15, 2024 17 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Completely irrelevant issue and I don’t think it applies to violent crimes anyhow. Not irrelevant, when you consider human nature, its entirely relevant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,183 Posted February 15, 2024 16 hours ago, cmh6476 said: I assume it's confrontational and spur of the moment. It could be treated as an act of domestic terrorism. I'm afraid this will effect future celebrations. Perhaps there is some way to fit this into the "hate crime" BS? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,182 Posted February 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Here’s the thread where digby (now known as @Stryker Ryker) showed once again how dumb he is. Did he mention metal helmets? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,702 Posted February 15, 2024 1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said: Aren’t you black? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,552 Posted February 15, 2024 24 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Thank god for the patriots that subdued these guys. There are still some strong men out there. Notice the contrast from the heroes to the perpetrators. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,579 Posted February 15, 2024 25 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: There was a time when suspects apprehended for a mass shooting would not be able to stand on their own after apprehension. Their clothes barely look mussed. Night sticks are the answer. Ask Rodney King Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,022 Posted February 15, 2024 I'm not sure why we think we can boil down all the issues related to gun violence on two partisan lines. Did anyone watch that Netflix thing where the lady was kidnapped and nobody believed her or her boyfriend? Yeah those cops sucked but the reality is our police departments are not resourced enough to deter, prevent, investigate, and provide enough evidence to convict all crime. So you end up with a certain fragment of society that feels like they can take advantage of this and get away with a life of crime. Your gun wielding, guns can save us mentality, or police and policy can save us by restricting gun access in the country neither one will get at the core of the problem described in the previous paragraph. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,673 Posted February 15, 2024 But fingers were pointed here claiming some geeks were making this political. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,022 Posted February 15, 2024 What might make a difference, is if you take these guys, to s public place in the city and advertise it, end them through execution by firing range and demonstrate that this behavior won't be tolerated. We're too soft and sensitive to do that any more, but a few of those and this might start thinking differently about the way in which they live. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,022 Posted February 15, 2024 1 minute ago, HellToupee said: But fingers were pointed here claiming some geeks were making this political. Oh great and here comes Biden to save the day. Instead of waiting for facts and evidence come out before we draw conclusions we pander to an audience. Does the administration not realize this makes him look like a P.O.S.? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,637 Posted February 15, 2024 Doesn't matter. Liberals chose to stand down while people looted and rioted over 9 felons per year getting killed by police while resisting arrest. All while being placated by the liberals in power and their army of wokies. And now liberals want to restrict guns. Sorry. You chose your path. 20-50 random people will just have to keep dying every year. We can't leave citizens defenseless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Psychic Observer 498 Posted February 15, 2024 4 minutes ago, nobody said: And now liberals want to restrict guns. .... We can't leave citizens defenseless. That's quite a leap in logic. If only it was possible to restrict guns while not leaving citizens defenseless. Dare to dream. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,183 Posted February 15, 2024 4 minutes ago, nobody said: Doesn't matter. Liberals chose to stand down while people looted and rioted over 9 felons per year getting killed by police while resisting arrest. All while being placated by the liberals in power and their army of wokies. And now liberals want to restrict guns. Sorry. You chose your path. 20-50 random people will just have to keep dying every year. We can't leave citizens defenseless. I might add.....let these liberals who are so willing to tolerate crime and criminals have to pay for all their own protection, force them to live in the areas that their policies are yielding to criminals.....MAKE THEM FACE THE CONDITIONS THEY SO HAPPILY CREATE FOR OTHERS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,253 Posted February 15, 2024 12 minutes ago, cmh6476 said: What might make a difference, is if you take these guys, to s public place in the city and advertise it, end them through execution by firing range and demonstrate that this behavior won't be tolerated. We're too soft and sensitive to do that any more, but a few of those and this might start thinking differently about the way in which they live. Time to revoke the 8th amendment. I support punishment which is both cruel and unusual for heinous crimes like mass murder or being a scochet. Lock these perps in stocks on the public square for 72 hours. Provide amnesty or immunity to any citizen who touches them in any manner. Let the community express their norms with the only proviso being no guns or knives as we want it to last. Bats, hand tools, pipes, sledge hammers, caustics, abrasives, rotting asian carp, gerbils should all be fair game as should playing Barry Manilow and Neil Sedaka on a loop. If they survive their 72 hours fine, release them. If they do not, justice has been served and a teachable moment has been optimized.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,182 Posted February 15, 2024 Police killings have increased since Floyd. Where’s the protests? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,789 Posted February 15, 2024 Man, this kind of thing makes me nostalgic for the days when a couple kids with a couple of pressure cookers innocently bombed the surrounding crowd. #BostonStrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,879 Posted February 15, 2024 Diversity is out strength. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,510 Posted February 15, 2024 17 hours ago, squistion said: I know... it happens all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,779 Posted February 15, 2024 32 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Police killings have increased since Floyd. Where’s the protests? DNC funded those protests. They will be back. Just give it a few months Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,510 Posted February 15, 2024 14 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said: This is mentally ill thinking. In order to stop a shooting, the legally armed person would have to sense that someone was about to whip out a gun and shoot people. One could be in a room of armed Marines, pull out a gun and kill a few of them before getting taken down. Oh, and the guys who did the subduing here did so without guns. Think of how many lives could be saved if we don't let crooks and crazy people buy guns. Are you for the right of crooks and crazy people to buy guns? Here's why you're wrong, and uncapable of understanding why. The overwhelmingly vast majority of open/carry gun owners, have a complete and total understanding of gun safety and use. I don't know the laws in that town/state pertaining to open/carry, but I'm willing to bet that there were people there with guns. You like to point out that the person was subdued by people who didn't have guns (even though you don't know if they did or not), but you're not willing to realize that while there were people there with guns, no one used them. That's because, again, those people have respect for guns and what can come from their use. They wouldn't just willy nilly open fire just to kill one or two people. To you, the existence of the gun initially is the problem, not the people. That's why you can't comprehend common sense and logic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,510 Posted February 15, 2024 13 hours ago, nobody said: I don't think it's that big of a deal. There are 20,000 gun murders a year. "Mass shootings" make up what? 30 per year? If you're not going to care about the 20k, why care about the 30? It's because those 30 generally fit their narrative while the majority of the other 20k don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted February 15, 2024 47 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Police killings have increased since Floyd. Where’s the protests? All the stores pulled out where the rioters are. No reason to riot if ya can't get a free TV and some sneakers. Even they know that destroying an empty building is a waste of time and energy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,022 Posted February 15, 2024 Jackson Mahomes rises to the occasion https://www.totalprosports.com/nfl/jackson-mahomes-praised-heroic-act-shooting-chiefs-super-bowl-parade/?fbclid=IwAR2Z5406V4ys0JKekLC4I0i141E8ndX6tHXE9T-HTp-UPNn6DzgjpX7YdX4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,405 Posted February 15, 2024 4 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Mine did? I'm not the inbred moron advocating taking away people's constitutional rights, you f****** imbecile. So you support the rights of violent criminals and crazy people to have guns. What an idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites