Trump talk only- no Eagles talk allowed (Steelers talk is OK though)

[The Real timschochet 6,585]

4 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Nearly two-thirds of Democrats said President Biden should step aside and allow the party to select a different nominee, according to a new poll from the AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

The survey also found that 70 percent of Americans, including nearly half of Democrats, said they were not confident that Mr. Biden had the mental capacity to be president. That is a marked increase since February, when only about one-third of Democrats said they were not confident in his abilities.

Downtrodden Democrats are especially concerned that Mr. Biden can no longer win the election. Just 37 percent of Democrats said they thought he could win, compared with 72 percent of Republicans who said they thought former President Donald J. Trump could win.

Biden and his people believe that once he is locked in as the candidate this will change, and the public will vote for him in preference to Trump. They might very well be right about that but it’s a big gamble. 

I go back and forth on whether or not Biden will end up leaving the race. I was convinced this morning that he wouldn’t but the Schiff statement really surprises me, because Schiff is an insider. Is Pelosi next? Or Obama? 

[The Real timschochet 6,585]

George Washington, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson. Pretty rare individuals. The truth is how many of these guys are ever willing to give up power voluntarily? Those are the only 3 I can think of. It just doesn’t happen very often. 

[squistion 2,105]

18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

George Washington, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson. Pretty rare individuals. The truth is how many of these guys are ever willing to give up power voluntarily? Those are the only 3 I can think of. It just doesn’t happen very often. 

Truman and Lyndon Johnson knew they weren't going to win the election anyway, so they saved themselves the humiliation of a loss.

[thegeneral 3,100]

31 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I actually think the better news for others is pretty meaningless. When a person actually becomes a candidate the polling tends to completely change. 
But I do agree that what is needed to win this election for the Democrats is Trump vs Not Trump. Right now it’s Biden vs Not Biden, and that’s not working (for now at least.) 

The bottom line is Biden has no shot and isn’t getting it back. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

33 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Biden and his people believe that once he is locked in as the candidate this will change, and the public will vote for him in preference to Trump. They might very well be right about that but it’s a big gamble. 

I go back and forth on whether or not Biden will end up leaving the race. I was convinced this morning that he wouldn’t but the Schiff statement really surprises me, because Schiff is an insider. Is Pelosi next? Or Obama? 

Obama would be nail in the coffin.

He won’t want to do it though. Not publicly

[Reality 3,121]

Man, the rats are even jumping ship.

[Maximum Overkill 1,894]

20 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

The bottom line is Biden has no shot and isn’t getting it back. 

That's not what you said 2 months ago. What changed? We've been posting videos of his demented asss for years now, you never opened your eyes. 

[thegeneral 3,100]

43 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

That's not what you said 2 months ago. What changed? We've been posting videos of his demented asss for years now, you never opened your eyes. 

The debate happened. Now that a number of Dems in office, donors, talking heads are piling on him to get out he is a lost cause. They can’t reverse this now.

He doesn’t have to drop of course, but in my view he has no chance outside of something very extraordinary occurring. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,894]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

The debate happened. Now that a number of Dems in office, donors, talking heads are piling on him to get out he is a lost cause. They can’t reverse this now.

He doesn’t have to drop of course, but in my view he has no chance outside of something very extraordinary occurring. 

It's ok, he has COVID. This is their chance to oust him. The Dems are vicious 

[thegeneral 3,100]

Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

It's ok, he has COVID. This is their chance to oust him. The Dems are vicious 

If he has no chance of winning he said he would drop out. Let’s see if he actually does it. I have gone back and forth on this but have settled on he will drop out…at least for today

[Maximum Overkill 1,894]

Just now, thegeneral said:

If he has no chance of winning he said he would drop out. Let’s see if he actually does it. I have gone back and forth on this but have settled on he will drop out…at least for today

I think it's inevitable. This "COVID" diagnosis may be their ticket. 

[thegeneral 3,100]

51 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

I think it's inevitable. This "COVID" diagnosis may be their ticket. 

I mean it’s up to him to decide. If he were to step aside it has to be a huge hit to the ego. Personally think getting beat badly would be worse.

[Maximum Overkill 1,894]

Just now, thegeneral said:

I mean it’s up to him to decide. If he were to step aside it has to be a huge hit to the ego. Personally think getting beat badly would be worse.

But at least this would give him a chance to bail out with an excuse rather than be humiliated. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,226]

Trump had Covid when he was president 

[Maximum Overkill 1,894]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trump had Covid when he was president 

Joe's fragile  

[thegeneral 3,100]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trump had Covid when he was president 

Yeah the was rushed to the hospital and was telling people he didn’t want to die like his fat friend

[Gepetto 1,341]

BIDEN IS FINISHED AFTER THAT SPEAKING BY THE GOLD STAR FAMILIES.

Rewind about 28 minutes and especially the mother wearing red 21 minutes from the time of this post to see it.

 

[thegeneral 3,100]

Reports that Schumer told Joe today in a private meeting it would be best if he stepped back.

 

[Voltaire 5,280]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Reports that Schumer told Joe today in a private meeting it would be best if he stepped back.

 

Hopefully Hunter smacked Schumer over the head with a vase.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

President Biden has become more receptive in the last several days to hearing arguments about why he should drop his re-election bid, Democrats briefed on his conversations said on Wednesday, after his party’s two top leaders in Congress privately told him they were deeply concerned about his prospects.

Mr. Biden has not given any indication that he is changing his mind about staying in the race, the Democrats said, but has been willing to listen to rundowns of new and worrying polling data and has asked questions about how Vice President Kamala Harris could win.

The accounts suggest that Mr. Biden, privately at least, is striking a more open-minded posture than he did last week when he lashed out at a number of House Democrats who pressed him to step aside.

One person close to the president said that it would be wrong to call him receptive to the idea of dropping out but that he “is willing to listen.” But this person emphasized there was no sign that Mr. Biden was changing course at this point.

The descriptions emerged after Senator Chuck Schumer and Representative Hakeem Jeffries, the two top Democrats in Congress, each told Mr. Biden privately over the past week that their members were deeply concerned about his chances in November and the fates of House and Senate candidates should he remain at the top of the ticket, according to two people briefed on the conversations.

 

[mmmmm...beer 802]

Pelosi told the president he could destroy Democrats’ chances of winning the House if he stays in the race. Biden got defensive.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/17/politics/nancy-pelosi-biden-conversation/index.html

 

[Gepetto 1,341]

The conversation was private while it happened, but it's not private because all of these Democrats are pushing their narrative to the media immediately after they talk to Joe.

[Maximum Overkill 1,894]

7 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Reports that Schumer told Joe today in a private meeting it would be best if he stepped back.

 

Can I ask an honest question? Why are Liberals throwing out the doomsday narrative for if Trump is elected? 

Besides liberal riots, times were pretty damn good under Trump. We weren't funding wars, we all had more money in our pocket, the economy was great, nobody F'd with the US, etc. 

Why do Liberals act like the world is going to end if Trump gets elected. I know it's all Bullshizz, but why do they believe it? You as well? 

On another note, why are Liberals still pretending like the Biden Presidency was a success? Nobody is that dumb, no? 

[RLLD 4,191]

2 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Can I ask an honest question? Why are Liberals throwing out the doomsday narrative for if Trump is elected? 

Besides liberal riots, times were pretty damn good under Trump. We weren't funding wars, we all had more money in our pocket, the economy was great, nobody F'd with the US, etc. 

Why do Liberals act like the world is going to end if Trump gets elected. I know it's all Bullshizz, but why do they believe it? You as well? 

On another note, why are Liberals still pretending like the Biden Presidency was a success? Nobody is that dumb, no? 

I think there are two sources.

1) They actually believe it, and this is very likely the case.  I mean, it makes sense.  Think of the other things they believe....men can become women....the border is secure.....   so they likely really believe it.   They sorta believe anything they are told, if it comes from a source they have been indoctrinated to trust without question....its a religion

2) They know its not true, but they want their people to hold power, so they follow the lie for its usefulness

[GutterBoy 2,898]

It's done, he's dropping out.  As early as tonight.

Harris will be the nominee.

LFG.

[supermike80 1,876]

18 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Biden and his people believe that once he is locked in as the candidate this will change, and the public will vote for him in preference to Trump. They might very well be right about that but it’s a big gamble. 

I go back and forth on whether or not Biden will end up leaving the race. I was convinced this morning that he wouldn’t but the Schiff statement really surprises me, because Schiff is an insider. Is Pelosi next? Or Obama? 

the party is fractured.  I find it almost impossible to believe Schiff made this public statement without the backing from the party.  The party has turned against Biden and they are trying to force his hand.  

[Beaker15 236]

22 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

It's done, he's dropping out.  As early as tonight.

Harris will be the nominee.

LFG.

Landslide

[Cdub100 3,884]

When is the DNC convention? He'll drop out just before the event which will get all eyes on the convention. If he drops out sooner it's because he's pissed they forced him out.

[Tree of Knowledge 1,795]

Barrack Hussein asked him to step aside.  Expect Biden out after markets close on Friday.   

[The Real timschochet 6,585]

Axios is now reporting that top Democrats believe Biden will quit the race as early as this weekend; that he is looking for a face saving way out, and also wants to make sure that Kamala is locked in as the candidate. 

[squistion 2,105]

18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Axios is now reporting that top Democrats believe Biden will quit the race as early as this weekend; that he is looking for a face saving way out, and also wants to make sure that Kamala is locked in as the candidate. 

Let's take this with a grain of salt. Whenever I link to Axios I always get a bunch laughing emojis.

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/18/president-biden-drop-out-election-democrats

Several top Democrats privately tell us the rising pressure of party congressional leaders and close friends will persuade President Biden to decide to drop out of the presidential race, as soon as this weekend.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,226]

Hard to believe that there are males here that consider themselves men that are going to actually vote for Kamala. This isn’t the class president election.  It’s real.  

[MDC 7,269]

Is it not masculine to vote for any female candidate?  

[IGotWorms 4,057]

35 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Barrack Hussein asked him to step aside.   

Link? That would be big 

[HellToupee 1,687]

Opinion | ‘Poor Son of a B---h’: Biden Once Pitied an Older Politician Reluctant to Leave the Stage

As a senator, Biden could see when it was time for an elder to pass the torch.

Now that Biden himself has acknowledged that age is catching up to him, that moment takes on new meaning. Biden is now clinging to power when it’s obvious to all — except perhaps those related to him or dependent upon him for money and prestige — that he needs to step aside. [Eds note: In response to a request for comment, White House spokesperson Andrew Bates provided an email statement reading: “Joe Biden is grateful to be in good health and proud to be using his experience and drive to build on the most successful record of any modern president.”]

In his resistance, Biden is not unusual. Many of us have friends, family, or co-workers who had to be told that they could no longer be a surgeon, accountant, therapist, or some other profession. It’s heartbreaking to watch a person lose what they see as their reason for being.

But that’s where the empathy should end. In the same way a U.S. senator should not serve when he’s in a diminished capacity, a president of the United States cannot be of diminished capacity. Clinging to power is clinging to power, whether it’s concealing a true medical state or giving a Jan. 6 speech that exhorts your followers to march to the Capitol to “fight like hell.” They may not be of the same magnitude, but both reflect a willingness to put one’s interests above what is right for the country.

It’s time for Biden to leave the stage.

Watch: Democrats take to TV to urge Biden to drop out

He should immediately withdraw as the 2024 nominee and agree to have doctors assess whether he’s fit to serve the remaining months of his term. Fears of disruption is not an adequate excuse. One thing I’ve learned following politics is no one, least of all the paid political talking heads who clutter cable TV and social media, have a clue how those steps would scramble the 2024 election.

But that’s not the point. All of us who are outraged by Donald Trump’s careless handling of his presidency cannot and should not turn a blind eye when Biden and his team also behave recklessly.

Once upon a time, political machines could hide a president’s diminished capacity. A stroke left Woodrow Wilson enfeebled for the last 14 months of his presidency. And concealing Franklin D. Roosevelt’s declining health was considered a wartime necessity in the 1940s. Setting aside the reasoning behind those judgment calls, in an age of television and social media, it’s no longer possible to hide the state of the president’s health.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,226]

Just now, MDC said:

Is it not masculine to vote for any female candidate?  

 Not this one. I didn’t question anyone masculinity for voting for Hillary on its own.  But not in this case. 

[RLLD 4,191]

10 minutes ago, squistion said:

Let's take this with a grain of salt. Whenever I link to Axios I always get a bunch laughing emojis.

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/18/president-biden-drop-out-election-democrats

Several top Democrats privately tell us the rising pressure of party congressional leaders and close friends will persuade President Biden to decide to drop out of the presidential race, as soon as this weekend.

I have been suspicious of all this intrigue, but am starting to now believe maybe this is real information.   

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Hard to believe there are males here that consider themselves men who drop to their knees and worship before Trump’s tiny little pud, calling him alpha and father and begging for a load on their face  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,226]

To think, the fate of the country is being decided, and one of the negotiation points is a pardon for the president’s crackhead son. Nice job libtards. 

[MDC 7,269]

Just curious. I think Kamala is a terrible candidate and wouldn’t vote for her, but I’m not sure why that would call a Kamala voter’s masculinity into question. Our choice this year is 2 shiit candidates either way.