Alias Detective 1,454 Posted August 6 Who has this feature and doesn’t turn this annoyance off before taking the vehicle out of park? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,327 Posted August 6 Are you talking about the engine turning off when the break is applied at a stop? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,643 Posted August 6 I despise this feature. Occasionally I forget to turn it off and the car stops when I’m at a red light. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 746 Posted August 6 The devil himself engineered this 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,683 Posted August 6 Wreak havic on your car for the sake of the environment! This is as dumb as it gets. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,093 Posted August 6 1st thing I do after starting my car is hit the disable button 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,331 Posted August 6 Both of my vehicles are 2004. One has a tape player. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 988 Posted August 6 28 minutes ago, Horseman said: Wreak havic on your car for the sake of the environment! This is as dumb as it gets. Damm straight! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,594 Posted August 6 Dumbest idea ever. The "smarter" they make the car, the dumber the driver becomes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,742 Posted August 7 Wife has this. Awful 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drizzay 737 Posted August 7 I've found that when my air conditioning or heat is set to Auto (and is usually blowing pretty high in the middle of summer/winter), the feature turns itself off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,844 Posted August 7 I don't have it, but why is it so bad? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeMatt 272 Posted August 7 1 hour ago, SUXBNME said: Dumbest idea ever. The "smarter" they make the car, the dumber the driver becomes. You must have a super duper smart car then !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarneyFife 43 Posted August 7 Thank a left wing tree hugging lunatic. Is there anything these people don’t destroy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,918 Posted August 7 Trump's EPA agrees with everyone who hates this "feature": https://www.newsweek.com/automatic-start-stop-technology-new-cars-fuel-efficiency-2071062 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,327 Posted August 7 I disabled mine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,215 Posted August 7 I don’t understand why most cars don’t even have an option to set it to always be off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,327 Posted August 7 7 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I don’t understand why most cars don’t even have an option to set it to always be off Most cars have an on/off button for it, otherwise you can go into the computer and disable it all together. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,025 Posted August 7 Never owned a car with this feature. Have been in cars with this feature and don't see what the big deal is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,215 Posted August 7 2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Never owned a car with this feature. Have been in cars with this feature and don't see what the big deal is. Biggest concern is it’s not good for the engine. It’s also annoying. In mine it’s slow to turn back on, so you can’t press the gas that quick when the light turns green. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,025 Posted August 7 Just now, TimHauck said: Biggest concern is it’s not good for the engine. It’s also annoying. In mine it’s slow to turn back on, so you can’t press the gas that quick when the light turns green. From my understanding is that it's only wear and tear on the starter and battery, so they designed better starters and batteries to compensate. Maybe @SUXBNME can offer an opinion on if it's bad for the engine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,643 Posted August 7 1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said: I disabled mine How? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,643 Posted August 7 45 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: From my understanding is that it's only wear and tear on the starter and battery, so they designed better starters and batteries to compensate. Maybe @SUXBNME can offer an opinion on if it's bad for the engine. So I asked the dealer about this when I bought the car and he said the same thing, “better starter and battery”. So I asked why they haven’t used those better parts before this feature or with the cars without this feature? Its bullshiit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,025 Posted August 7 2 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said: So I asked the dealer about this when I bought the car and he said the same thing, “better starter and battery”. So I asked why they haven’t used those better parts before this feature or with the cars without this feature? Its bullshiit. No it's common sense. Why would you put a battery and starter in a car that is designed to start multiple times per day when you don't need it to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,991 Posted August 7 17 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: No it's common sense. Why would you put a battery and starter in a car that is designed to start multiple times per day when you don't need it to? Why would you make a car engine stop and start multiple times when you don't need to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,025 Posted August 7 7 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: Why would you make a car engine stop and start multiple times when you don't need to? Save gas and reduce emissions 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,991 Posted August 7 5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Save gas and reduce emissions Doing the math, auto stop/start would save me an average of 5% of fuel consumption. That's .91 gallons of gas for a savings of $2.82 per week. I don't see a need for me to drive a truck that has crippled performance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,215 Posted August 7 1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said: From my understanding is that it's only wear and tear on the starter and battery, so they designed better starters and batteries to compensate. Maybe @SUXBNME can offer an opinion on if it's bad for the engine. Well he did already say in this thread that this was dumb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,327 Posted August 7 50 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said: How? What make/model? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,025 Posted August 7 11 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: Doing the math, auto stop/start would save me an average of 5% of fuel consumption. That's .91 gallons of gas for a savings of $2.82 per week. I don't see a need for me to drive a truck that has crippled performance. Well no one is making you, but anyway, curious as to how it cripples performance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,025 Posted August 7 12 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Well he did already say in this thread that this was dumb Being dumb and being bad for the engine are 2 different things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,643 Posted August 7 21 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: What make/model? Grand Cherokee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,991 Posted August 7 11 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Well no one is making you, but anyway, curious as to how it cripples performance? The Government "incentivizes" manufacturers to put ESS on all newer vehicles through regulations. So yeah, we are pretty much made to have it, unless you want a 10 year old vehicle. It cripples performance by having to start the engine before accelerating from a stop. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,025 Posted August 7 5 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: The Government "incentivizes" manufacturers to put ESS on all newer vehicles through regulations. So yeah, we are pretty much made to have it, unless you want a 10 year old vehicle. It cripples performance by having to start the engine before accelerating from a stop. Sounds terrible. I drive a 10 year old vehicle. It's pretty good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,327 Posted August 7 2 hours ago, avoiding injuries said: Grand Cherokee The Jeep Grand Cherokee, like many modern vehicles, features an Auto Stop/Start system, also known as ESS (Engine Stop-Start), which automatically shuts off the engine when the vehicle is stopped to save fuel. To manually disable the system, there's a dedicated stop/start switch. Pressing this switch will turn off the system, and the switch's light will indicate that it's disabled. The system can be re-enabled by pressing the switch again. How it works: The Auto Stop/Start system activates automatically when the engine is started. When the vehicle is brought to a complete stop, the engine will shut down. To restart the engine, simply release the brake pedal or gently press the accelerator. The instrument cluster's stop/start page can be used to check the system's status. The system is designed to save fuel by not idling while the vehicle is stationary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,611 Posted August 7 5 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: Most cars have an on/off button for it, otherwise you can go into the computer and disable it all together. This is what I did for mine as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,387 Posted August 7 Y'all still have cars? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,797 Posted August 7 My wife's and daughter's car both have that feature... Some how it got permanently shutoff on my wife's car... All I know is that I hated it especially on a hot day and getting stopped at a traffic light for some time... Damn first world problems... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,646 Posted August 7 So this feature is supposed to reduce emissions and be better for the environment. They found it's not good for the battery, so they mine more lithium (which is worse for the environment that the initial problem), to address the current problem, which isn't as efficient as if they never addressed the "initial problem" in the first place. This is another "we need to stop cutting down trees and produce plastic instead" situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites