So I Wrote a Novel.

[mmmmm...beer 837]

I wrote a book. Thriller. FBI agent, reservations,  missing kids, some Ojibwe spirit stuff.

Got some pretty good feedback from my ARC folks I sent it out to.  Several were LEO's and Indians.  Lots of positive responses.  So I guess I got those parts right.  

I cleaned it up and sent it out to a handful of agents.  We'll see how she goes.

Anyone readers for fun and leisure?

I have a few series planned.  Mostly procedural cop/supernatural stuff set in Indian Country.  Think Darkwinds meets Jack Reacher.

[MDC 8,297]

Congrats. Writing a novel is a major accomplishment.  

I’d be happy to read the first chapter if you’re willing. 

[mmmmm...beer 837]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

Congrats. Writing a novel is a major accomplishment.  

I’d be happy to read the first chapter if you’re willing. 

Shoot me a PM with your email.

I guess anyone can for that matter.

[Strike 6,163]

Is it called "Mr. Ishida's bookstore?"

[MikeMatt 550]

This is how I got hooked on crack ! First one was free. !!!

[BeenHereBefore 1,701]

5 minutes ago, MikeMatt said:

This is how I got hooked on crack ! First one was free. !!!

Then what ?

 

[mmmmm...beer 837]

2 hours ago, Strike said:

Is it called "Mr. Ishida's bookstore?"

I don't get it ...

[BeenHereBefore 1,701]

2 hours ago, mmmmm...beer said:

I wrote a book. Thriller. FBI agent, reservations,  missing kids, some Ojibwe spirit stuff.

Got some pretty good feedback from my ARC folks I sent it out to.  Several were LEO's and Indians.  Lots of positive responses.  So I guess I got those parts right.  

I cleaned it up and sent it out to a handful of agents.  We'll see how she goes.

Anyone readers for fun and leisure?

I have a few series planned.  Mostly procedural cop/supernatural stuff set in Indian Country.  Think Darkwinds meets Jack Reacher.

Awesome and good for Bro., I have a book in me about the Zodiac Killer an who I think he was but didn't get there yet. I should though and not a known suspect, Anyhow wish you many success!

[seafoam1 3,616]

4 hours ago, mmmmm...beer said:

I don't get it ...

Mr. Ishida's Bookstore" is a fictional location and the title of a novel written by the author known as "timschochet". It is not a physical, real-world bookstore. 

[seafoam1 3,616]

7 hours ago, MDC said:

Congrats. Writing a novel is a major accomplishment.  

I’d be happy to read the first chapter if you’re willing. 

[MLCKAA 586]

9 hours ago, mmmmm...beer said:

I wrote a book. Thriller. FBI agent, reservations,  missing kids, some Ojibwe spirit stuff.

Got some pretty good feedback from my ARC folks I sent it out to.  Several were LEO's and Indians.  Lots of positive responses.  So I guess I got those parts right.  

I cleaned it up and sent it out to a handful of agents.  We'll see how she goes.

Anyone readers for fun and leisure?

I have a few series planned.  Mostly procedural cop/supernatural stuff set in Indian Country.  Think Darkwinds meets Jack Reacher.

Sounds like you might enjoy the work of Louise Erdrich.

[mmmmm...beer 837]

9 minutes ago, MLCKAA said:

Sounds like you might enjoy the work of Louise Erdrich.

Ah interesting.  She and I are enrolled in the same Tribe, Turtle Mountain Chippewa out of North Dakota.  Cool... Maybe I'll reach out and see if she's too good to give me pointers.  Haha..

She came and talked to the kids at high school back home when my wife was a student there.

[Fnord 2,728]

9 hours ago, mmmmm...beer said:

I wrote a book. Thriller. FBI agent, reservations,  missing kids, some Ojibwe spirit stuff.

Got some pretty good feedback from my ARC folks I sent it out to.  Several were LEO's and Indians.  Lots of positive responses.  So I guess I got those parts right.  

I cleaned it up and sent it out to a handful of agents.  We'll see how she goes.

Anyone readers for fun and leisure?

I have a few series planned.  Mostly procedural cop/supernatural stuff set in Indian Country.  Think Darkwinds meets Jack Reacher.

Good for you! That ain't easy... I started one in 1993 when I still had hopes and dreams... haven't finished it yet! 

[Nomad99 872]

Dear Penthouse......I never thought this would happen. Riveting

[BunnysBastatrds 2,734]

 That’s a great accomplishment. Congratulations. You also could look into James Lee Burke and his Detective Robicheaux character. I’ve read almost all of them. Great influence on me and great story teller. Good reference on character and story development.

[cyclone24 1,984]

Did you even mention us??!!!

[Engorgeous George 2,379]

5 hours ago, mmmmm...beer said:

Ah interesting.  She and I are enrolled in the same Tribe, Turtle Mountain Chippewa out of North Dakota.  Cool... Maybe I'll reach out and see if she's too good to give me pointers.  Haha..

She came and talked to the kids at high school back home when my wife was a student there.

I always thought of the Chippewa as being in Wisconsin, Minnesota, and up into southern regions of Canada.  I did not realize they were so far west.  As one gets into Minnesota and the Dakotas I think of that as Sioux terrritory.

[peenie 2,039]

Congratulations!  
I think writing and being creative is so hard. I hope your novel becomes punished and is turned into a successful Netflix show!

[Engorgeous George 2,379]

5 hours ago, mmmmm...beer said:

Ah interesting.  She and I are enrolled in the same Tribe, Turtle Mountain Chippewa out of North Dakota.  Cool... Maybe I'll reach out and see if she's too good to give me pointers.  Haha..

She came and talked to the kids at high school back home when my wife was a student there.

I always thought of the Chippewa as being in Wisconsin, Minnesota, and up into southern regions of Canada.  I did not realize they were so far west.  As one gets into Minnesota and the Dakotas I think of that as Sioux terrritory.

 

 

Just read a blurb on Wikipedia about this tribe.  Maybe learned a little something.

[MikeMatt 550]

43 minutes ago, BunnysBastatrds said:

 That’s a great accomplishment. Congratulations. You also could look into James Lee Burke and his Robicheaux character. I’ve read almost all of them. Great influence on me and great story teller. Good reference on character and story development.

Do you read it or just look at the pictures like me ?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,607]

28 minutes ago, peenie said:

Congratulations!  
I think writing and being creative is so hard. I hope your novel becomes punished and is turned into a successful Netflix show!

Can’t wait to see the renditions where the Indians are made black and the detective is non binary Islamist. Would be incredible

nice job Mr Falcon 

[Alias Detective 1,483]

15 hours ago, mmmmm...beer said:

Shoot me a PM with your email.

I guess anyone can for that matter.

Pick me!

[easilyscan 1,132]

Congratulations!

It's something I've always thought about, but it never went any further than that.

[mmmmm...beer 837]

3 hours ago, Engorgeous George said:

I always thought of the Chippewa as being in Wisconsin, Minnesota, and up into southern regions of Canada.  I did not realize they were so far west.  As one gets into Minnesota and the Dakotas I think of that as Sioux terrritory.

We pushed them out.  Sioux means "the enemy" in our language.

[jerryskids 7,284]

18 hours ago, mmmmm...beer said:

Shoot me a PM with your email.

I guess anyone can for that matter.

Congrats man, that is so great!  I've had in mind writing a book, but I keep finding distractions, the largest of which is this cesspool.  I have a few ideas, one of which is to write about a lightly trafficked chat site with a bunch of mentally unstable posters. 

Anyway, I'll shoot you a PM if you'd like to send me a part to read.  Also, please send some of the crack you sent to @MikeMatt to get him hooked.   

[mmmmm...beer 837]

9 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Congrats man, that is so great!  I've had in mind writing a book, but I keep finding distractions, the largest of which is this cesspool.  I have a few ideas, one of which is to write about a lightly trafficked chat site with a bunch of mentally unstable posters. 

Anyway, I'll shoot you a PM if you'd like to send me a part to read.  Also, please send some of the crack you sent to @MikeMatt to get him hooked.   

I'll just send it to you on messenger Jerry.

Yeah you all heard me right.  I'm FB messenger friends with THE Jerry.

[mmmmm...beer 837]

4 hours ago, peenie said:

Congratulations!  
I think writing and being creative is so hard. I hope your novel becomes punished and is turned into a successful Netflix show!

Awwwwee thanks Peenie.

If it's not picked up after awhile I'll just self pub on Amazon Direct Publishing.  So it'll get out there one way or another.

[mmmmm...beer 837]

3 hours ago, Alias Detective said:

Pick me!

You'd be honest anyway.  Probably...

[SaintsInDome2006 891]

18 hours ago, mmmmm...beer said:

I wrote a book. Thriller. FBI agent, reservations,  missing kids, some Ojibwe spirit stuff.

Got some pretty good feedback from my ARC folks I sent it out to.  Several were LEO's and Indians.  Lots of positive responses.  So I guess I got those parts right.  

I cleaned it up and sent it out to a handful of agents.  We'll see how she goes.

Anyone readers for fun and leisure?

I have a few series planned.  Mostly procedural cop/supernatural stuff set in Indian Country.  Think Darkwinds meets Jack Reacher.

This is really awesome. Yes I’ve read quite a bit of that stuff, congratulations. Cheers. Buy beer to celebrate!

[mmmmm...beer 837]

19 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

This is really awesome. Yes I’ve read quite a bit of that stuff, congratulations. Cheers. Buy beer to celebrate!

Ahhh the handle of my youth.  25 years ago when I chose that handle I loved me some beer.  Now... can't sleep right if I drink and feel like salty hot garbage for days.  I'm more the mmmmm...coffee guy now.

[thegeneral 3,852]

Good luck. Please give updates on the whole process.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,607]

1 hour ago, mmmmm...beer said:

I'll just send it to you on messenger Jerry.

Yeah you all heard me right.  I'm FB messenger friends with THE Jerry.

What no mention of being Facebook friends with me??? Whatever!! 

[mmmmm...beer 837]

34 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Good luck. Please give updates on the whole process.

You know one of the things I've learned is just how much folks get paid who get their book published.  Essentially it's fairly improbable your book will be selected by an agent to represent.  Like less than 5% or something like that.  If you do get an agent, and they sell your book, they will give you an advance.  It sounds like those advances are fairly small.  Say $3-15k depending on your publishing house.  The advance is what you get paid total if your book doesn't sell enough copies to go beyond that.  You get paid something like 15% of the net proceeds for each book sold.  So for simplicities sake, your book sells for $10, profit off that is $5, you'd get 15% of that $5... meaning $0.75 cents per book.  So, until the advance is realized, meaning those $0.75 per book adds up to the $3-15k or whatever you get nothing beyond.    

If your book hits and you sell beyond your advance is really the only time you make anything else.

If you decide to go with Kindle Direct Publishing through Amazon.  YOU control the release.  You get 70% of every sale.  There really are no costs to recoup other than the cost to get a cover designed and the cost of hiring a pro editor to make sure your book doesn't suck grammatically or at least makes sense.  KDP is really the only way to go unless you are a very established author.  But going that way, you had to do all the work.  Which really doesn't seem to be that bad if you are an adult and have done anything on the computer before.

Another thing, there is a HUGE rift right now on use of AI for authoring.  There are essentially two main camps.  AI is the devil, and shouldn't be used for ANYTHING to include grammar, sentence structure, outline... about anything.  The other camp is, it's the way of the future and if you don't use it, go back to ink and quill on parchment.  The are some nuances, but it's a fairly interesting debate right now.  The lines on what AI usage is acceptable or not are very gray.  What is AI-Created vs AI-Assisted.  Created is apparently when you say, hey write me a triller.  AI-Assisted is more along the lines of, hey here is a sentance, does it make sense or, hey I'm not quite sure if my dialog I'm writing here flows, etc.  Nobody has an answer on what's what right now, other than the Masters of Fine (MFA) people that anything done by AI is bad and wrong, including punctuation  correction.  I feel like those folks are more driven by showing you how much they suffered to create their art, than the actual product.  Nothing is good unless you've slaved over prose for years.

It's a weird scene right now.  But interesting to learn.

[mmmmm...beer 837]

4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

What no mention of being Facebook friends with me??? Whatever!! 

Hahah... well... you didn't mention it so I didn't want to be first.  There are several guys on here who are my FB friends.

[SUXBNME 1,646]

What a novel idea

[jerryskids 7,284]

2 hours ago, mmmmm...beer said:

Ahhh the handle of my youth.  25 years ago when I chose that handle I loved me some beer.  Now... can't sleep right if I drink and feel like salty hot garbage for days.  I'm more the mmmmm...coffee guy now.

I was going to suggest a glass of chardonnay.   

2 hours ago, mmmmm...beer said:

I'll just send it to you on messenger Jerry.

Yeah you all heard me right.  I'm FB messenger friends with THE Jerry.

A rare privilege...

1 hour ago, mmmmm...beer said:

You know one of the things I've learned is just how much folks get paid who get their book published.  Essentially it's fairly improbable your book will be selected by an agent to represent.  Like less than 5% or something like that.  If you do get an agent, and they sell your book, they will give you an advance.  It sounds like those advances are fairly small.  Say $3-15k depending on your publishing house.  The advance is what you get paid total if your book doesn't sell enough copies to go beyond that.  You get paid something like 15% of the net proceeds for each book sold.  So for simplicities sake, your book sells for $10, profit off that is $5, you'd get 15% of that $5... meaning $0.75 cents per book.  So, until the advance is realized, meaning those $0.75 per book adds up to the $3-15k or whatever you get nothing beyond.    

If your book hits and you sell beyond your advance is really the only time you make anything else.

If you decide to go with Kindle Direct Publishing through Amazon.  YOU control the release.  You get 70% of every sale.  There really are no costs to recoup other than the cost to get a cover designed and the cost of hiring a pro editor to make sure your book doesn't suck grammatically or at least makes sense.  KDP is really the only way to go unless you are a very established author.  But going that way, you had to do all the work.  Which really doesn't seem to be that bad if you are an adult and have done anything on the computer before.

Another thing, there is a HUGE rift right now on use of AI for authoring.  There are essentially two main camps.  AI is the devil, and shouldn't be used for ANYTHING to include grammar, sentence structure, outline... about anything.  The other camp is, it's the way of the future and if you don't use it, go back to ink and quill on parchment.  The are some nuances, but it's a fairly interesting debate right now.  The lines on what AI usage is acceptable or not are very gray.  What is AI-Created vs AI-Assisted.  Created is apparently when you say, hey write me a triller.  AI-Assisted is more along the lines of, hey here is a sentance, does it make sense or, hey I'm not quite sure if my dialog I'm writing here flows, etc.  Nobody has an answer on what's what right now, other than the Masters of Fine (MFA) people that anything done by AI is bad and wrong, including punctuation  correction.  I feel like those folks are more driven by showing you how much they suffered to create their art, than the actual product.  Nothing is good unless you've slaved over prose for years.

It's a weird scene right now.  But interesting to learn.

This is great info, thanks.