Jamies Winston

[Challenger 72]

Fully expect to be top 5 QB going forward.

 

I see the yards, I see the TDs, and all the talents surroundeing him. Only worry might be the int, even then the floor is around 18 to 20.

 

Bonus: No Bye Week

[Texas10 15]

I hope you're right, I've never been that high on him but I'm starting him going forward.

[brotherbock 349]

With my keeper Luck still sitting on IR, I've been running with Winston (who I drafted) and Alex Smith (who I had to pick up when Winston got hurricaned).

 

They've been fairly even so far, both doing well. I started Smith last week, I think Winston outscored him by 2 pts in our league. I'm rolling with Winston this week, just have to vs the Pats. But I'm hoping you're right, and I've thought the same thing since pre-season about Winston. Used my '2nd round' (in a 5 keeper league) on him, hasn't been a bad decision yet.

[weepaws 2,460]

When you look at avg points per game he ranks tied for 5th.

[Maulers1973 117]

I'd start him this week. The Patriots defense is lousy, and the game could be a shootout!

[jgcrawfish 232]

When you look at avg points per game he ranks tied for 5th.

shhhhhh...

[brotherbock 349]

 

I'd start him this week. The Patriots defense is lousy, and the game could be a shootout!

Aren't the Bucs giving up loads through the air too? I think a shootout is as much of a 'lock' as you can get.

[weepaws 2,460]

I would agree.

 

I like him in this matchup also.

[polecatt 403]

I have always found him to be quite consistent

He doesn't seem to often get you huge points but he is very steady in getting you a respectable amount

Occasionally he has a huge game

He's always a good break out candidate too

[Challenger 72]

I would call it a bad game for Winston, and he still scored me 20 points.

 

Main reason I kept Winston and dropped Dak. If Dak doesn't score a few TD every game, you will be looking at 150 to 200 yards of performance.

 

For QBs, always look for both yards and TDs.

[mark32esu 18]

Winston has hints of Bortles 2.0, doesn’t do sheizer during the 1st 3 qtrs but statistically tears it up in the 4th/garbage time.

[weepaws 2,460]

Darn only if that last pass would have been a TD.

 

Almost.

 

Still had a good ff game.

[LoOnAtIk 75]

Winston has hints of Bortles 2.0, doesnt do sheizer during the 1st 3 qtrs but statistically tears it up in the 4th/garbage time.

I'm glad I'm not the first person to bring this comparison up...

 

Winston is not a good NFL QB in my opinion but he's going to be slinging it a lot. Today he stunk basically the entire game then padded his stats at the end... I won't say garbage time because they still had a chance to win but still.

 

I've always been in the "Winston is overrated" boat and today's performance did nothing to change that opinion.

 

Where's TBay I wanna hear his/her 2 cents...

 

(Politically correct with the his/her in honor of Cam Newton)

[Kent 228]

I'm glad I'm not the first person to bring this comparison up...

 

Winston is not a good NFL QB in my opinion but he's going to be slinging it a lot. Today he stunk basically the entire game then padded his stats at the end... I won't say garbage time because they still had a chance to win but still.

 

I've always been in the "Winston is overrated" boat and today's performance did nothing to change that opinion.

 

Where's TBay I wanna hear his/her 2 cents...

 

(Politically correct with the his/her in honor of Cam Newton)

TBay knows. Everyone knows.

[Antiramie 50]

Winston is still making the same mistakes he did day 1:

 

- Locks onto one WR

- Throws into double/triple coverage

- Misses high a lot

- Cant throw a deep ball to save his life

- No touch

 

Jameis obviously has a lot of passion for the game. But the more I watch him the more I think his talent and football IQ were overrated. You arent going to succeed based on motivation and leadership alone. You have to actually improve your throwing and decision-making.

[LoOnAtIk 75]

Calling it now.... Mike Evans will be this year's Allen Robinson

[Gepetto 987]

If the kicker makes 2 of 3 field goals instead of missing 3, they beat the New England Patriots and this talk wouldn't even be happening about Winston.

[weepaws 2,460]

If threw that last pass for a TD we wouldn't be having it either.

[MDC 5,891]

Winston is still making the same mistakes he did day 1:

 

- Locks onto one WR

- Throws into double/triple coverage

- Misses high a lot

- Cant throw a deep ball to save his life

- No touch

 

Jameis obviously has a lot of passion for the game. But the more I watch him the more I think his talent and football IQ were overrated. You arent going to succeed based on motivation and leadership alone. You have to actually improve your throwing and decision-making.

Dumb

[mark32esu 18]

If the kicker makes 2 of 3 field goals instead of missing 3, they beat the New England Patriots and this talk wouldn't even be happening about Winston.

I couldn’t care less if they won or lost, my gripe is his fantasy production up until the last few minutes of the game.

[Challenger 72]

If the kicker makes 2 of 3 field goals instead of missing 3, they beat the New England Patriots and this talk wouldn't even be happening about Winston.

 

Actually if they only make 1 out of 3, like the 31 yards, TB would of won. Because NE got a freebie FB with the inside kick. (TB stopped them on 3 and out)

 

Overrated, if you compare him to Brady and Rogers. How about compare him to a superbowl winner like Flacco?

 

Yes, we all know he is a kid with tons of passion that wants to be the best. Watching him speaks/plays is like watching a college grad with dreams and hopes of being the richest man or save the planet. We all laugh inside and thinking it won't happen (including me, how naive of him), but he is on the right path.

[Phil Simms 11 127]

I started him (over Staff). Decent game 300 & a TD.

 

Would have been nice to get another TD but it is a passable performance. He outscored Brady, let's all complain about Brady too.

[Phil Simms 11 127]

Winston has hints of Bortles 2.0, doesn’t do sheizer during the 1st 3 qtrs but statistically tears it up in the 4th/garbage time.

 

What games were they in garbage time? Maybe just week 2? Week 1 was reverse garbage time where they were running out the clock so does not apply.

 

Nothing like that Bortles season at all.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

Rarely see Tampa play. I thought Winston looked like hot garbage and he looks like he blames a lot. His arm is a wet noodle. Was not impressed

[brotherbock 349]

Rarely see Tampa play. I thought Winston looked like hot garbage and he looks like he blames a lot. His arm is a wet noodle. Was not impressed

 

To be fair, it's easy to not be impressed by a QBs worst game of the season Someone who had never watched a lot of Patriots football wouldn't have been all that impressed by Week 1 Tom Brady.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Winston still sucks as an actual NFL qb, like he has since he entered the league. He will never be a winner. He has Evans luckily. Evans unfortunately suffers because Winston is not that good.

[CornKobb 48]

3 straight 300 yard games. Im benching his sorry tail

[Phil Simms 11 127]

Winston definitely had some questionable throws when pressured. Should have Alex Smithed those and was lucky not to be picked off.

 

Still think he will be good from a fantasy perspective, but may have a few bad turnover weeks.

[cavern 70]

he does pretty well from a fantasy perspective. i cannot help but wonder if the team has any 2nd thoughts regarding his long term potential...

[TBayXXXVII 2,117]

Winston is doing fine. Is he a finished product? No. Is he great? No. He has things he needs to work and that absolutely need to be fixed. After 36 career starts, I'm fine with where he is. He does need to get better, and I think he will. We'll see how it works out.

 

Currently, I think we can all agree (plus or minus), that the 4 best QB's in the league are Brady, Rodgers, Brees, and Roethlisberger. After 36 starts, here are their numbers...

 

Brady: 62.22% / 7740 yards / 52 Td's / 33 Int's / 84.0 passer rating. (at age 26)

Rodgers: 64.64% / 9412 yards / 66 Td's / 25 Int's / 98.3 passer rating. (at age 26 - 2 months away from 27)

Brees: 60.94% / 7246 yards / 46 Td's / 34 Int's / 80.8 passer rating. (at age 25 - 2 months away from 26)

Roethlisberger: 63.06% / 7557 yards / 46 Td's / 38 Int's / 88.5 passer rating. (at age 24 - 3 months away from 25)

 

Rodgers is way ahead of the curve (though he sat the longest behind an HOF QB and with great QB coaching - and was the oldest), but other than him, Winston isn't all that different than the other 3... and he's at least a year younger.

 

Winston: 59.79% / 9330 yards / 57 Td's / 36 Int's / 86.0 passer rating. (at age 23 - 3 months away from 24)

 

 

 

From a fantasy perspective, he did fine. Just looking at the raw numbers (because I actually don't have either he or Brady on any of my teams), he did better than Brady last night. I don't see how anyone would be able to complain about drafting him in their fantasy league.

[cavern 70]

thanks. appreciate that perspective. i have him in a dynasty, thus my wondering about long term potential

Winston is doing fine. Is he a finished product? No. Is he great? No. He has things he needs to work and that absolutely need to be fixed. After 36 career starts, I'm fine with where he is. He does need to get better, and I think he will. We'll see how it works out.

 

Currently, I think we can all agree (plus or minus), that the 4 best QB's in the league are Brady, Rodgers, Brees, and Roethlisberger. After 36 starts, here are their numbers...

 

Brady: 62.22% / 7740 yards / 52 Td's / 33 Int's / 84.0 passer rating. (at age 26)

Rodgers: 64.64% / 9412 yards / 66 Td's / 25 Int's / 98.3 passer rating. (at age 26 - 2 months away from 27)

Brees: 60.94% / 7246 yards / 46 Td's / 34 Int's / 80.8 passer rating. (at age 25 - 2 months away from 26)

Roethlisberger: 63.06% / 7557 yards / 46 Td's / 38 Int's / 88.5 passer rating. (at age 24 - 3 months away from 25)

 

Rodgers is way ahead of the curve (though he sat the longest behind an HOF QB and with great QB coaching - and was the oldest), but other than him, Winston isn't all that different than the other 3... and he's at least a year younger.

 

Winston: 59.79% / 9330 yards / 57 Td's / 36 Int's / 86.0 passer rating. (at age 23 - 3 months away from 24)

 

 

 

From a fantasy perspective, he did fine. Just looking at the raw numbers (because I actually don't have either he or Brady on any of my teams), he did better than Brady last night. I don't see how anyone would be able to complain about drafting him in their fantasy league.

[IMMensaMind 459]

Winston is still making the same mistakes he did day 1:

- Locks onto one WR

- Throws into double/triple coverage

- Misses high a lot

- Cant throw a deep ball to save his life

- No touch

Jameis obviously has a lot of passion for the game. But the more I watch him the more I think his talent and football IQ were overrated. You arent going to succeed based on motivation and leadership alone. You have to actually improve your throwing and decision-making.

This is good analysis; spot on. Jameis looks like Blake Bortles redux to me.

 

Dumb

And this proves it.

[jimaveli 119]

Bortles may be more 'athletic' than Crab Legs. Besides that, he's easily and with some distance a more dangerous qb to have on your real or fantasy teams. He misses more throws and makes more absurdly bad throws. And he can completely go into the tank if he has a bad start. Winston somehow gets folks to stay with him even when he's not playing well. With that, he can have decent 2nd halves and get back into games. He did it in college. He's still doing it now. Also, Nick Folk is almost certainly about to be jobless.

[CornKobb 48]

winston had a boatload of drops too last night. yes i am a owner of winston

 

rose colored glasses

[jgcrawfish 232]

bear in mind, he's still one of the younger QB's in the league while in his 3rd year. I was not all that impressed by him yesterday either to be honest, but the fact remains that if their kicker wasn't sh!tastic, they'd have won. He did just enough to win the game for them. At the same time, the Patriots are still horrible on defense. With those weapons, Tampa should put up 35+ pts so on the whole it was a bit disappointing.

[kobe808lak 7]

They should have toasted that defense.

[Viking14 5]

What a fourth Quarter!!!!!. I wish he could have calmed down in the first quarter. Still learning, a GREAT thrower, and he will learn to have some touch with experience.

[Frozenbeernuts 1,652]

Winston is doing fine. Is he a finished product? No. Is he great? No. He has things he needs to work and that absolutely need to be fixed. After 36 career starts, I'm fine with where he is. He does need to get better, and I think he will. We'll see how it works out.

 

Currently, I think we can all agree (plus or minus), that the 4 best QB's in the league are Brady, Rodgers, Brees, and Roethlisberger. After 36 starts, here are their numbers...

 

Brady: 62.22% / 7740 yards / 52 Td's / 33 Int's / 84.0 passer rating. (at age 26)

Rodgers: 64.64% / 9412 yards / 66 Td's / 25 Int's / 98.3 passer rating. (at age 26 - 2 months away from 27)

Brees: 60.94% / 7246 yards / 46 Td's / 34 Int's / 80.8 passer rating. (at age 25 - 2 months away from 26)

Roethlisberger: 63.06% / 7557 yards / 46 Td's / 38 Int's / 88.5 passer rating. (at age 24 - 3 months away from 25)

 

Rodgers is way ahead of the curve (though he sat the longest behind an HOF QB and with great QB coaching - and was the oldest), but other than him, Winston isn't all that different than the other 3... and he's at least a year younger.

 

Winston: 59.79% / 9330 yards / 57 Td's / 36 Int's / 86.0 passer rating. (at age 23 - 3 months away from 24)

 

 

 

From a fantasy perspective, he did fine. Just looking at the raw numbers (because I actually don't have either he or Brady on any of my teams), he did better than Brady last night. I don't see how anyone would be able to complain about drafting him in their fantasy league.

It's cute to see your optimism. After his 5th game of the third season, he is still locking onto receivers and making horrible decisions. He has enough confidence to not let a pick or almost pick rattle him, but it also smacks of having no conscience. He thinks it's someone else's fault probably, like Cutler, and he is going to do what he wants. If it screws the team over, well it's someone else's fault

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

 

To be fair, it's easy to not be impressed by a QBs worst game of the season Someone who had never watched a lot of Patriots football wouldn't have been all that impressed by Week 1 Tom Brady.

 

I have actually seen Winston before. Last year I loved him because I had Evans. He only looked to Evans. Truth is though the guy throws a wounded duck. His arm is really weak. And he still makes really bad decisions.

[Kent 228]

Winston is doing fine. Is he a finished product? No. Is he great? No. He has things he needs to work and that absolutely need to be fixed. After 36 career starts, I'm fine with where he is. He does need to get better, and I think he will. We'll see how it works out.

 

Currently, I think we can all agree (plus or minus), that the 4 best QB's in the league are Brady, Rodgers, Brees, and Roethlisberger. After 36 starts, here are their numbers...

 

Brady: 62.22% / 7740 yards / 52 Td's / 33 Int's / 84.0 passer rating. (at age 26)

Rodgers: 64.64% / 9412 yards / 66 Td's / 25 Int's / 98.3 passer rating. (at age 26 - 2 months away from 27)

Brees: 60.94% / 7246 yards / 46 Td's / 34 Int's / 80.8 passer rating. (at age 25 - 2 months away from 26)

Roethlisberger: 63.06% / 7557 yards / 46 Td's / 38 Int's / 88.5 passer rating. (at age 24 - 3 months away from 25)

 

Rodgers is way ahead of the curve (though he sat the longest behind an HOF QB and with great QB coaching - and was the oldest), but other than him, Winston isn't all that different than the other 3... and he's at least a year younger.

 

Winston: 59.79% / 9330 yards / 57 Td's / 36 Int's / 86.0 passer rating. (at age 23 - 3 months away from 24)

 

 

 

From a fantasy perspective, he did fine. Just looking at the raw numbers (because I actually don't have either he or Brady on any of my teams), he did better than Brady last night. I don't see how anyone would be able to complain about drafting him in their fantasy league.

It took me a few years to come to the realization that Kirk Cousins is a loser and a stat padder.

 

It's that itch on the back of your neck that you will scratch soon. The Itch is Winston. And he's a loser too. Deep down you know. Search your feelings.