steelers2101 7 Posted September 8, 2011 Out 2-3 months is the word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted September 8, 2011 Breaking news: Manning had 3rd surgery on neck this morning. Frankly, I'm stunned they haven't put him on IR yet. Jesus, let the guy heal this major injury. I don't know that if I'm a Colts fan I want Manning playing at all this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 157 Posted September 8, 2011 Peyton Manning, QB IND News: ESPN reports sources told them Colts QB Peyton Manning had a cervical fusion on his neck Thursday morning and is out a minimum of 2-3 months. There is no word if he will be put on injured reserve, which would end his season. Kerry Collins will start Week 1 in Manning's absence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lamb of God 15 Posted September 8, 2011 I think I'm gonna drop him for Kolb who is available. I can't see Peyton coming back this year, 2-3 months thats 3/4 of the Fantasy season and I'm just waiting for the IR call. He's not gonna waste any roster space on my team. Bye Bye douche. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RamslovaMartzhata 3 Posted September 8, 2011 If he's anything like my buddy who had a very similar, if not the same injury and surgeries... He may be done for life. Of course he may get better treatment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PATSSOX 22 Posted September 8, 2011 Out 2-3 months is the word. Yup just get a text. Manning in 5th round now not such a good value Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted September 8, 2011 Yup just get a text. Manning in 5th round now not such a good value I got Kerry Collins off waivers. Good value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roroco 75 Posted September 8, 2011 I got Kerry Collins off waivers. Good value. If your league starts 3 QBs... sure... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Goomy Noomy Roo 50 Posted September 8, 2011 Hey Garrard is looking for a gig! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dpbuddha 9 Posted September 8, 2011 Cervical fusion confirmed. They fused his cervix to his labia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Nice 40 Posted September 8, 2011 ESPN's Chris Mortensen confirms that Peyton Manning underwent cervical fusion surgery on his neck Thursday morning.Manning's recovery timetable is 2-3 months at minimum. Per Mort, there's no word yet on the possibility of injured reserve. We imagine the Colts will hold off on that decision as long as possible, though the season is circling the drain. Manning won't play before Halloween and possibly not until Thanksgiving. Kerry Collins is still just a low-end QB2 in what will likely be a more run-oriented offense than it's been under Manning. Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Austin Collie, and Pierre Garcon all take severe blows. http://rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1493/peyton-manning Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RicemanX 20 Posted September 8, 2011 Well, at least now we know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,086 Posted September 8, 2011 So do we drop him from our rosters now or wait till they put him on IR? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texas10 15 Posted September 8, 2011 So do we drop him from our rosters now or wait till they put him on IR? I'd like to know what you guys think on this, I have Stafford which I'm happy with but I'm scared now since I have 1 option. Do we drop Peyton and grab Kerry or another off the wire? I know some people in my league that have crap QBs and will grab Kerry after this news so I need to decide fast.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
browns16-0 30 Posted September 8, 2011 I have Stafford as well, so I am going to keep Peyton on my roster for the time being. My hope is that Manning will be back in time for the FF playoffs. But, if someone comes available I really want or need on the ww I will probably eventually drop him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,368 Posted September 8, 2011 I've had this Surgery and so did Steve Slaton. He's done for the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patmos 2 Posted September 8, 2011 Who else is available on the wire besides Collins? I'm in Indy and I can't recommend Collins. If Manning is out all year and the Colts have a losing record, I have to believe we will see what we have in Painter. Collins is a stop-gap and will continue only if the Colts are winning (my opinion only). All the talk here is that Manning is out for the season. I see him coming back late only if we are in contention to still get into the playoffs, and that's a real longshot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shovelheadt 71 Posted September 8, 2011 I live and work here in Indy. The work day officially ended as soon as this story hit. Seriously..entire rows of IT guys are standing around right now contemplating suicide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texas10 15 Posted September 8, 2011 Who else is available on the wire besides Collins? I'm in Indy and I can't recommend Collins. If Manning is out all year and the Colts have a losing record, I have to believe we will see what we have in Painter. Collins is a stop-gap and will continue only if the Colts are winning (my opinion only). All the talk here is that Manning is out for the season. I see him coming back late only if we are in contention to still get into the playoffs, and that's a real longshot. My Wire has Fitzpatrick, Henne, Tavarus, Campbell, Collins, Newton. Just some off my head, yea it's slim pickins! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,086 Posted September 8, 2011 Who else is available on the wire besides Collins? I'm in Indy and I can't recommend Collins. If Manning is out all year and the Colts have a losing record, I have to believe we will see what we have in Painter. Collins is a stop-gap and will continue only if the Colts are winning (my opinion only). All the talk here is that Manning is out for the season. I see him coming back late only if we are in contention to still get into the playoffs, and that's a real longshot. Exactly, and I don't see that happening. I think I'm dropping him before any other QBs go down and the WW gets even thinner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shovelheadt 71 Posted September 8, 2011 Hey Garrard is looking for a gig! So is Palmer (praying) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,086 Posted September 8, 2011 Cervical fusion confirmed. They fused his cervix to his labia. :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomServo 0 Posted September 8, 2011 :lol: Looks like the Madden curse got the wrong Peyton! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mzf5c5 0 Posted September 8, 2011 I live and work here in Indy. The work day officially ended as soon as this story hit. Seriously..entire rows of IT guys are standing around right now contemplating suicide. Don't tell me this, you live way to close to me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,086 Posted September 8, 2011 Dropped him for Klob. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted September 8, 2011 Who was the QB in Indy during Peyton's last year at Tennessee? Harbaugh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted September 8, 2011 as a Charger fan, I am truly saddened by the turn of events, I hope his career isnt over. Hes a class act, a funny dude (on SNL) and a likeable guy, who gives everything. I hope this isnt the end of a legend. If this was Michael Vick or even Tom Brady I would be :banana: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patmos 2 Posted September 8, 2011 The doctor on TV (ESPN I think) just said this type of surgery is 3 months minimum PLUS rehab. On a bright note, he said Peyton should recover fine and be ready next year although he will experience a 10% loss in his range of motion, which he thought was no big deal?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TennisMenace 156 Posted September 10, 2011 So do we drop him from our rosters now or wait till they put him on IR? I'll drop him as soon as I find someone worthy to replace him. Slim pickings of course. Basically you pick up a guy hoping he will get a chance to be a start (Carter, Murray, Tate, Jax kid). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmbryant09 1 Posted September 10, 2011 As a Colts blogger, he's pretty much done for the year. That being said, depending on your situation, I'd hold onto him for at least a few weeks, for 2 reasons: 1. You hear how Manning's progressing. If things are positive, ahead of schedule, maybe you try and wait it out. If he's behind schedule, or god forbid, he suffered another setback, obviously dump him. 2. What is the Colts record. If the Colts are 0-5, or 1-4 or something, just drop him. However, if they manage to pull out a few wins and remain competitive, I wouldn't be shocked to see Manning come back weeks 12-17 (their bye week is 11). I believe that is just over 2 months from the surgery date, and 2 months was the absolute best case scenario. Obviously a long shot, but how foolish would you feel if you dropped him now, saw him return week 12, throw for 300/3 each week while you lost every game because you starting Chad Henne. Also, it depends on your options. If you're looking to pick up Kerry Collins or Luke McCown or T. Jackson - why bother?!?!? You're more likely to find a QB mid-season who can be productive. If, on the other hand, you can pick up D. McNabb, K. Kolb (dunno why he's available in that other guy's league), then you probably shouldn't hesitate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lamb of God 15 Posted September 10, 2011 Dropped him for Klob. Funny I'm thinkin of doing the same thing. I think Peyton's done for the year and I need a good backup while I can get one and Kolb is the best one out there in my league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patmos 2 Posted September 10, 2011 As a Colts blogger, he's pretty much done for the year. That being said, depending on your situation, I'd hold onto him for at least a few weeks, for 2 reasons: 1. You hear how Manning's progressing. If things are positive, ahead of schedule, maybe you try and wait it out. If he's behind schedule, or god forbid, he suffered another setback, obviously dump him. 2. What is the Colts record. If the Colts are 0-5, or 1-4 or something, just drop him. However, if they manage to pull out a few wins and remain competitive, I wouldn't be shocked to see Manning come back weeks 12-17 (their bye week is 11). I believe that is just over 2 months from the surgery date, and 2 months was the absolute best case scenario. Obviously a long shot, but how foolish would you feel if you dropped him now, saw him return week 12, throw for 300/3 each week while you lost every game because you starting Chad Henne. Also, it depends on your options. If you're looking to pick up Kerry Collins or Luke McCown or T. Jackson - why bother?!?!? You're more likely to find a QB mid-season who can be productive. If, on the other hand, you can pick up D. McNabb, K. Kolb (dunno why he's available in that other guy's league), then you probably shouldn't hesitate. I agree with this thinking. It seems like the Colts' thinking has two factors: (1) the division can be won with a 9-7 record (2) if they can get Peyton back in December for even one game before the playoffs, then the slight chance that he would be available is worth a roster spot at this time. So, if Houston starts on a good run and looks to be a 10-11 win team, it's over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mzf5c5 0 Posted September 10, 2011 As a Colts blogger, he's pretty much done for the year. That being said, depending on your situation, I'd hold onto him for at least a few weeks, for 2 reasons: 1. You hear how Manning's progressing. If things are positive, ahead of schedule, maybe you try and wait it out. If he's behind schedule, or god forbid, he suffered another setback, obviously dump him. 2. What is the Colts record. If the Colts are 0-5, or 1-4 or something, just drop him. However, if they manage to pull out a few wins and remain competitive, I wouldn't be shocked to see Manning come back weeks 12-17 (their bye week is 11). I believe that is just over 2 months from the surgery date, and 2 months was the absolute best case scenario. Obviously a long shot, but how foolish would you feel if you dropped him now, saw him return week 12, throw for 300/3 each week while you lost every game because you starting Chad Henne. Also, it depends on your options. If you're looking to pick up Kerry Collins or Luke McCown or T. Jackson - why bother?!?!? You're more likely to find a QB mid-season who can be productive. If, on the other hand, you can pick up D. McNabb, K. Kolb (dunno why he's available in that other guy's league), then you probably shouldn't hesitate. You said everything correctly, I am also almost to the point that if letting him sit the year, no matter what our record is, would be better for his future, that is the correct and thing he and the Colts should do. I would rather have him a few more years, then rush him back and it end it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seattle_pt1 0 Posted September 11, 2011 The doctor on TV (ESPN I think) just said this type of surgery is 3 months minimum PLUS rehab. On a bright note, he said Peyton should recover fine and be ready next year although he will experience a 10% loss in his range of motion, which he thought was no big deal?? As someone who rehabs these patients I can confidently say his season is over and likely his career. They performed the surgery as a last ditch effort to regain strength in his C7 myotome. The C7 myotome controls the tricep muscle which allows him to extend the elbow. Research shows that most patients do not improve after a fusion. He will likely not regain full strength because the fusion will not take all the pressure off of his nerve. If he was a normal guy working at a desk, he would live a relatively normal life. As an elite QB he will be hard pressed to regain that elite form. The rehab will help, but the nerve signal to the muscle has to get through to allow the muscle to function fully. Strength training will only go so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seadog54 20 Posted October 9, 2011 No he doesn't, He makes them a very good team, but facts are facts, if you don't think they win a game without him, ever, you know NOTHING about football. What are you talking about? I am pretty sure the Colts just won a preseason game, they did it without Manning. So Mathis and Freeney are nothing? Really? Peyton could make Roy Williams look like a top 5 WR, I don't doubt that. Heck, if I could catch, I could be a rock star. I am not bitter, I just found your comment stupid. I don't know what is going on, as a Colts fan, you learn that they don't release much. I am hopefull he plays still this year. If not, I would rather him heal and come back strong next year. I have more faith in Collins than I do Painter and I feel Colins gives us a better chance to play. Indy still has a lot of talent on the team and they can win games. They do not become the worst team in the NFL, they have made the playoffs the last 9 years and did it as a team. Ask Manning, he will tell you. How them 0-5 Dolt's looking now?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted October 10, 2011 How them 0-5 Dolt's looking now?? Like the worst team in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gocolts 300 Posted October 10, 2011 If there is an all time MVP in the NFL it's Peyton Manning. Not just becasue he is arguably the best QB ever -- he is also his teams leader , the teams play caller , and no other player I have ever seen has ever been more important to his team. Take Brady away -- they still won 11 games Take Brees away they could still win a few take Rivers away they still win a few Take Peyton away - they don't win 5 games all year and that might be lofty. :pointstosky: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Law 241 Posted October 10, 2011 After 5 weeks, it's hard to say who will get the #1 pick (Luck), but if the Colts were to get that pick, would they take Luck? I mean, you'd have to think Manning comes back and plays at least another 3-5 years. Why take Luck to sit? Or would they do the inconceivable and trade Manning at some point, like a year after Luck watching? I'm just saying that, typically, when you have a QB of Manning's stature, you don't take his heir this far out, this high up. Usually it would be a 2nd or 3rd round type of guy. But then, they haven't done that yet and that's why they are where they are. Teams that could REALLY use Luck right off are Denver, Miami (in the running), Seattle, SF, Washington, and maybe KC. Everyone else has a star QB or recently took a QB early. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beemo 0 Posted October 10, 2011 After 5 weeks, it's hard to say who will get the #1 pick (Luck), but if the Colts were to get that pick, would they take Luck? If the team holds onto the #1 pick, it's pretty much a given that the Colts take Luck. Ideally, Luck would see how well Rodgers is doing and allow the team to let him sit on the bench and learn from Manning. Manning could play for another 2-3 years then transition into coaching and let Luck take over. Of course, that assumes Manning has no plans to keep playing into his early 40s like some QBs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mzf5c5 0 Posted October 10, 2011 How them 0-5 Dolt's looking now?? Like they need a new coaching staff! I am honestly thinking they are going to purposely tank the season, even if they could win some games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
