Atheists

[IGotWorms 4,058]

I'm not a religious man myself, though I wouldn't go so far as to call myself atheist. Agnostic is more like it. But point being: I'm not really one to defend religion or attack atheists generally.

 

However, what these folks are doing just goes way too far, IMO:

 

Atheist group targets presidential candidates' faith with billboards

Washington (CNN) – A prominent atheist group is using next month's Democratic National Convention to take aim at the presidential candidates' religion, putting up billboards targeting Mormonism and Christianity in Charlotte, North Carolina.

 

“Our political system is rife with religion and it depends too much on religion and not enough on substance," said David Silverman, president of American Atheists, sponsor of the ads.

 

"Religion is silly and religion has components that are inherently divisive. … There is no place for any of that in the political system,” he said.

 

The billboards go up Monday in Charlotte and will stay up for a month at a cost of roughly $15,000. The Democratic convention runs September 3-6.

 

The billboard targeting Christianity features an image of Jesus Christ on toast and this description of the faith: "Sadistic God; Useless Savior, 30,000+ Versions of ‘Truth,’ Promotes Hates, Calls it ‘Love.’ ”

 

The billboard targeting Mormonism lambastes – and, Mormons would say, distorts – specific Mormon doctrines: "God is a Space Alien, Baptizes Dead People, Big Money, Big Bigotry.”

 

The Mormon billboard features a man in white underwear, a reference to special Mormon garments.

 

Both billboards feature the line "Atheism: Simply Reasonable."

 

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/13/first-on-cnn-atheist-group-targets-presidential-candidates-faith-with-billboards/?hpt=hp_t1

 

I can't imagine these guys really think that such billboards will help their cause either. Are they just doing it for the attention?

[The Elevator Killer 557]

I'm not a religious man myself, though I wouldn't go so far as to call myself atheist. Agnostic is more like it. But point being: I'm not really one to defend religion or attack atheists generally.

 

However, what these folks are doing just goes way too far, IMO:

 

 

 

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/13/first-on-cnn-atheist-group-targets-presidential-candidates-faith-with-billboards/?hpt=hp_t1

 

I can't imagine these guys really think that such billboards will help their cause either. Are they just doing it for the attention?

 

Yeah, They sound like PETA. They care more about making headlines than helping animals.

[drobeski 3,061]

Why is islam always excluded from religious attacks by atheists ?

Scared ?

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Why is islam always excluded from religious attacks by atheists ?

Scared ?

 

The same reason hinduism is. Because it is largely irrelevant in this country.

[NorthernVike 2,087]

I classify myself as a 'Recovering Catholic'. 18 years of that shiot shoved down my throat. (that did'nt come out quite right)

[Phurfur 70]

The same reason hinduism is. Because it is largely irrelevant in this country.

 

Where do you live?

[drobeski 3,061]

The same reason hinduism is. Because it is largely irrelevant in this country.

you really do live in another planet

[The Pope 10]

I classify myself as a 'Recovering Catholic'. 18 years of that shiot shoved down my throat. (that did'nt come out quite right)

 

It came out right.....FOR ME!!!

 

[OilFieldTrash 0]

Let them waste their money. Odds are it is going into a Mormons or Christians pocket.

[gemynd 0]

Why is islam always excluded from religious attacks by atheists ?

Scared ?

 

It's not the first time the American Atheists group has released in-your-face billboards. Earlier this year, the group put up two billboards in heavily Muslim and Jewish enclaves in New Jersey and New York bearing messages in Arabic and Hebrew.

 

“You know it’s a myth … and you have a choice,” the billboards said. At the time, Silverman said the signs were intended to reach atheists in Muslim and Jewish areas who may feel isolated because they are surrounded by believers.

 

From the article.

 

[OldMaid 2,130]

I classify myself as a 'Recovering Catholic'. 18 years of that shiot shoved down my throat. (that did'nt come out quite right)

 

 

The priest thought it came out just fine.

[MedStudent 56]

I don't believe in God so I don't go to church. If someone wants to go to church every Sunday and listen to some guy tell them how to live their life then I could care less. I do really wonder though...how many people who call themselves Christian or any religion, really believe this stuff. no doubt that there are believers but I really wonder what the percentage of true believers there really are. I had my catholic education and church every sunday up until my confirmation. In the end I just didn't buy it.

[The Pope 10]

I don't believe in God so I don't go to church. If someone wants to go to church every Sunday and listen to some guy tell them how to live their life then I could care less. I do really wonder though...how many people who call themselves Christian or any religion, really believe this stuff. no doubt that there are believers but I really wonder what the percentage of true believers there really are. I had my catholic education and church every sunday up until my confirmation. In the end I just didn't buy it.

 

This makes the Baby Tebow cry.

 

[mobb_deep 920]

Atheist group targets presidential candidates' faith with billboards

Washington (CNN) – A prominent atheist group is using next month's Democratic National Convention to take aim at the presidential candidates' religion, putting up billboards targeting Mormonism and Christianity in Charlotte, North Carolina.

 

“Our political system is rife with religion and it depends too much on religion and not enough on substance," said David Silverman, president of American Atheists, sponsor of the ads.

 

That's 100% true.

 

"Religion is silly and religion has components that are inherently divisive. … There is no place for any of that in the political system,” he said.

 

That's also 100% true. The "silly" comment wasn't necessary I guess.

 

The billboards go up Monday in Charlotte and will stay up for a month at a cost of roughly $15,000. The Democratic convention runs September 3-6.

 

The billboard targeting Christianity features an image of Jesus Christ on toast and this description of the faith: "Sadistic God; Useless Savior, 30,000+ Versions of ‘Truth,’ Promotes Hates, Calls it ‘Love.’ ”

 

The billboard targeting Mormonism lambastes – and, Mormons would say, distorts – specific Mormon doctrines: "God is a Space Alien, Baptizes Dead People, Big Money, Big Bigotry.”

 

The Mormon billboard features a man in white underwear, a reference to special Mormon garments.

 

Both billboards feature the line "Atheism: Simply Reasonable."

 

Some of this is a bit , but still based mostly on facts. I don't see the big issue with most of this.

 

The only part I really take issue with is "Atheism: Simply Reasonable." It really isn't... Although I'm an Atheist, I don't think I'm any more reasonable than a Christian, Mormom, Hindu, etc. etc. I just find evolution more plausible, so that's what I go with. I don't have any issues with people who believe otherwise. Shrug.

[cbfalcon 825]

I don't believe in God so I don't go to church. If someone wants to go to church every Sunday and listen to some guy tell them how to live their life then I could care less. I do really wonder though...how many people who call themselves Christian or any religion, really believe this stuff. no doubt that there are believers but I really wonder what the percentage of true believers there really are. I had my catholic education and church every sunday up until my confirmation. In the end I just didn't buy it.

 

 

I've had moments in which I felt something that made me say "well maybe"....But in the end my mind just can't work it out. The only argument that I can find for truly believing is simply that tons of people believe.

 

But I'm very "whatever" about it. My ex-wife was Christian and it was cool. I never cared. My daughter will be raised as a Christian and I am cool with it. Parents, friends, etc. All the same. Good for them I say.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

I have noticed that a majority of Atheists appear to worship politics, and particularly the Democratic Party. Seems like a religion to me.

[drobeski 3,061]

That's 100% true.

 

 

 

That's also 100% true. The "silly" comment wasn't necessary I guess.

 

 

 

Some of this is a bit , but still based mostly on facts. I don't see the big issue with most of this.

 

The only part I really take issue with is "Atheism: Simply Reasonable." It really isn't... Although I'm an Atheist, I don't think I'm any more reasonable than a Christian, Mormom, Hindu, etc. etc. I just find evolution more plausible, so that's what I go with. I don't have any issues with people who believe otherwise. Shrug.

[penultimatestraw 473]

Why is islam always excluded from religious attacks by atheists ?

Scared ?

As an atheist, let me go on record as against the tactic of attacking anyone's religion, or lack thereof. Believe it or not, there are fringe atheists just like any other belief system.

 

That being said, I believe Islam is no different than the others in the scope of its mythology.

[penultimatestraw 473]

I have noticed that a majority of Atheists appear to worship politics, and particularly the Democratic Party. Seems like a religion to me.

I don't think most atheists would identify themselves as Democrats, but Republicans certainly have allied with fundamental Christianity.

[GobbleDog 997]

Although I'm an Atheist, I don't think I'm any more reasonable than a Christian, Mormom, Hindu, etc. etc.

 

Nothing unreasonable about believing in whacked-out supernatural stories.?. That's the very definition of unreasonable.

[ZeroTolerance 584]

My take on atheism: they can no better prove that no type of god or supernatural being exists than the religious can prove one does.

 

(I personally believe that if such being(s) exist, they aren't micromanaging the universe or this world and deciding on virtual whims who to help and who not to, etc)

[Greedo 13]

Why is islam always excluded from religious attacks by atheists ?

Scared ?

 

In this case, there is no muslim running for president.

[OilFieldTrash 0]

My take on atheism: they can no better prove that no type of god or supernatural being exists than the religious can prove one does.

 

(I personally believe that if such being(s) exist, they aren't micromanaging the universe or this world and deciding on virtual whims who to help and who not to, etc)

 

Well said

[shotsup 832]

Does the Pope go to church ?

[mobb_deep 920]

Nothing unreasonable about believing in whacked-out supernatural stories.?. That's the very definition of unreasonable.

 

I feel like both beliefs are faith based, so they're mutually reasonable and unreasonable. Basically what ZT said.

[cbfalcon 825]

My take on atheism: they can no better prove that no type of god or supernatural being exists than the religious can prove one does.

 

I've been trying to prove for years that there are no invisible silent ghosts that do nothing at all following me everywhere I go. I think it would offer me peace of mind..but admittedly I am having a tough time finding proof that they aren't there, so I totally feel this argument

[jets24 6]

That's 100% true.

 

 

 

That's also 100% true. The "silly" comment wasn't necessary I guess.

 

 

 

Some of this is a bit , but still based mostly on facts. I don't see the big issue with most of this.

 

The only part I really take issue with is "Atheism: Simply Reasonable." It really isn't... Although I'm an Atheist, I don't think I'm any more reasonable than a Christian, Mormom, Hindu, etc. etc. I just find evolution more plausible, so that's what I go with. I don't have any issues with people who believe otherwise. Shrug.

 

Calling Christ a "useless Savior" is more than just a bit - . It's opinionated and completely uncalled for. I have no problem with their legal right to post a positive message about their beliefs or lack of them. However, this crosses an unnecessary line. Jesus Christ was a real person that walked this earth and seemed to set an amazing example of how we should treat each other. Just like some others in this world, Ghandi, Mother Theresa, etc. We consider him our Savior. Nothing wrong with that. "Useless" if far from what he was and still is.

[frank 2,307]

My take on atheism: they can no better prove that no type of god or supernatural being exists than the religious can prove one does.

 

 

That's a silly position. I can't prove the Trix Rabbit is real and living on Pluto. You can't prove he isn't. That doesn't mean both positions are equally valid.

[ZeroTolerance 584]

That's a silly position. I can't prove the Trix Rabbit is real and living on Pluto. You can't prove he isn't. That doesn't mean both positions are equally valid.

It means atheists are absurdly arrogant over what is essentially just an opinion.

[frank 2,307]

It means atheists are absurdly arrogant over what is essentially just an opinion.

I'm not one of those people. I don't give a crap what anyone believes. I also think they shouldn't be d1cks about it. However, it is not just my opinion that there is no Trix Rabbit living on Pluto. Believing that there is one is not reasonable.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

The atheists should run their own candidate for POTUS.

[MDC 7,447]

I'm not one of those people. I don't give a crap what anyone believes. I also think they shouldn't be d1cks about it. However, it is not just my opinion that there is no Trix Rabbit living on Pluto. Believing that there is one is not reasonable.

 

I mostly agree with you but there is at least evidence of intelligent design in nature, so believing in a creator isn't as totally baseless as believing the Trix rabbit lives on Pluto.

[frank 2,307]

there is at least evidence of intelligent design in nature,

 

No there isn't.

[GobbleDog 997]

That's a silly position. I can't prove the Trix Rabbit is real and living on Pluto. You can't prove he isn't. That doesn't mean both positions are equally valid.

[Gepetto 1,368]

No there isn't.

 

So you think the design of nature is stupid instead? Or that is not designed at all? It just magically appears?

[MDC 7,447]

No there isn't.

 

Yes, there is. If push comes to shove I probably lean toward atheism too but when you look at the complexity of organisms or even symmetries in a grain of sand I can see why some people interpret that as intelligent design.

 

A belief in the Trix rabbit has no supporting evidence at all - you're overstating your case.

[GobbleDog 997]

So you think the design of nature is stupid instead? Or that is not designed at all? It just magically appears?

Seems magical, but given the vastness of time and universe(s) it's inevitable - not magic.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

It means atheists are absurdly arrogant over what is essentially just an opinion.

 

 

Some of these atheists are just as pushy as the missionaries who come to your door cramming God down your throat.

 

Leave me the fock alone and let me believe whatever I believe. If I have questions, I'll come to you.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Where do you live?

 

I live in Murfreesboro Tennesee, which is home of the ever more infamous mosque controversy. The rednecks here are trying to block a mosque being built, and have already torched the construction equipment once.

 

When I said "irrelevant" I mean that the Muslims have no political clout in this country. Quite frankly, as a "nonaffiliated spiritual seeker" (meaning I don't know what is out there but try to seek it) I generally find the Christians to be far more of a threat in this part of the world than the Muslims.

[BLS 314]

Oh look....a political thread!

 

Yeah!