Fox News and Conservative Talk Radio

[DAVID RUFFIN 1]

In my opinion these are the angriest groups of Republicans. They watch Fox News or listen to Conservative Talk Radio and they think it makes them an expert on politics. The only knowledge they have of politics is parroted talking points without any facts to back them up. When you defeat them in debate they will resort to calling you names like “Liberal,” “commie,” “socialist” or “baby-killer” etc. They think all liberals are socialists that want to take their money and give it to people who don’t deserve it.

[jerryskids 5,401]

Apparently you missed my recent link to a study which shows that liberals are worse than conservatives at empathizing with the positions of the other side?

 

My link

[Mike Honcho 4,141]

Apparently you missed my recent link to a study which shows that liberals are worse than conservatives at empathizing with the positions of the other side?

 

My link

 

Probably cause liberals can't empathize with stupidity.

[drobeski 3,061]

Probably cause liberals can't empathize with stupidity.

Because they are too stupid to realize they are the stupidity.

[NorthernVike 2,080]

Because they are too stupid to realize they are the stupidity.

Win

[Mike Honcho 4,141]

Because they are too stupid to realize they are the stupidity.

 

Good one...

[TimmySmith 2,782]

On the flip side, the angriest liberals are those who populate daytime talk shows. "I only bin wit her twice an she think I the baby diddy."

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Ruffin gets pumelled by tge first response to his thread, and it went down hill for him from there.

 

Typical for a "liberal, commie, Socialist baby-killer".

[DAVID RUFFIN 1]

Ruffin gets pumelled by tge first response to his thread, and it went down hill for him from there.

 

Typical for a "liberal, commie, Socialist baby-killer".

 

 

 

Good one.

[cyclone24 1,836]

Liberals......all for freedom of speech and everyone having a voice....as long as it doesnt disagree with them.

 

 

All these leftist leaning websites, news channels, blogs, etc.....and liberals cant stop fondling themselves over FOX news. ONE station.

 

Fox is this, Fox is that...blah blah blah......Ya know..if you dipsh!ts would just come out and say..."We dont want to hear an opposing view" .i could at least respect that as opposed to whining about one station and running around acting like your sh!t doesnt stink.

[DAVID RUFFIN 1]

Liberals......all for freedom of speech and everyone having a voice....as long as it doesnt disagree with them.

 

 

All these leftist leaning websites, news channels, blogs, etc.....and liberals cant stop fondling themselves over FOX news. ONE station.

 

Fox is this, Fox is that...blah blah blah......Ya know..if you dipsh!ts would just come out and say..."We dont want to hear an opposing view" .i could at least respect that as opposed to whining about one station and running around acting like your sh!t doesnt stink.

 

 

 

Name calling.... I rest my case.

[jerryskids 5,401]

Probably cause liberals can't empathize with stupidity.

You unintentionally captured the essence of your problem. You are so convinced that you are right that you write off opposing views as "stupid." Congrats on that epiphany, although you don't realize you had it.

 

Because they are too stupid to realize they are the stupidity.

 

Or put another way...

[Big Blue 06 195]

Look, Fox News clearly has a bias towards the right. They also have some blowhard talking heads that love to hear themselves speak. I don't think this is really news to anyone.

 

However, Fox News doesn't have the market cornered on opinionated, biased talking heads. There are plenty of news stations that lean to the left the same way. It's always been this way and will always be this way.

[Mike Honcho 4,141]

You unintentionally captured the essence of your problem. You are so convinced that you are right that you write off opposing views as "stupid." Congrats on that epiphany, although you don't realize you had it.

 

 

 

Or put another way...

 

I think we captured your problem, you have no sense of humor...

[edjr 5,717]

Because they are too stupid to realize they are the stupidity.

 

wahhhhh

[drobeski 3,061]

wahhhhh

[cyclone24 1,836]

Name calling.... I rest my case.

 

 

Its ok...you didnt really have one.

[jerryskids 5,401]

Good one...

 

 

I think we captured your problem, you have no sense of humor...

Thanks for the example of understanding humor.

[Reality 2,711]

I'de probably go ahead and peenie this thread. It's still early inthe day.

[Mike Honcho 4,141]

Thanks for the example of understanding humor.

 

I understood his humor fine, and my comment was on how bad it was(ie he did a rubber/glue joke)...so we should scratch sarcasm and humor from the list of things you get.

[MDC 5,963]

If you think they're angry now just wait until Romney loses. You're going to have Republitards calling for secession and moaning about how they would've won if it weren't for media bias, union thugs and Diabold.

 

Comedy gold around here in November!

[DAVID RUFFIN 1]

I'de probably go ahead and peenie this thread. It's still early inthe day.

 

 

 

 

I must have hit a nerve.

[jerryskids 5,401]

I must have hit a nerve.

Maybe a funny bone.

[IGotWorms 3,430]

Don't we have this argument all the time?

 

Fox news, Limbaugh, etc. = stupid

 

MSNBC, Al Gore's radio station, etc. = stupid

 

I occasionally watch MSNBC because it's fun to see them bash conservatives. But I know the "news" I'm getting is pretty biased, and that before I believe anything that's said is indisputable fact, I had better check out some independent sources.

 

Anyone who gets their actual news from these sources and believes them to be honest and fully accurate is an idiot.

[Greedo 13]

While I don't care to actually count, I see far more "Fox News says" quoted from those on the right here than "look what MSNBC or Keith Olbermann says" from the left.

 

I don't look to any of them in general for legitimate news or thorough, quality analysis, unless a specific article or topic can be quite convincing. Nor should anyone.

[Herbivore 917]

Liberals......all for freedom of speech and everyone having a voice....as long as it doesnt disagree with them.

 

 

All these leftist leaning websites, news channels, blogs, etc.....and liberals cant stop fondling themselves over FOX news. ONE station.

 

Fox is this, Fox is that...blah blah blah......Ya know..if you dipsh!ts would just come out and say..."We dont want to hear an opposing view" .i could at least respect that as opposed to whining about one station and running around acting like your sh!t doesnt stink.

 

Could you give an example?

[KSB2424 3,087]

Could you give an example?

Hint: Waffle Fries

[DAVID RUFFIN 1]

Ruffin gets pumelled by tge first response to his thread, and it went down hill for him from there.

 

Typical for a "liberal, commie, Socialist baby-killer".

 

 

I forgot to mention that van in front of my house.

[DankNuggs 305]

The whole liberal party is trying to herd a bunch of cats from all the special interest groups who all think they need to be deferred to and placated first...

 

 

If you were to toss out all conservative thought you'd still have a giant clusterfock of special interest groups fighting for their share of the pie...

 

The only thing they can all agree about is that they can hate the other side... Dems are 99% talk on actually doing things to help these special interest groups... All this talk about unity is BS, everyone on that side is in it for themselves...

 

If they didn't have fox news to rail against they'd have a second to realize that their 'platform' doesn't remotely help them... It oppresses them, concentrates their power into people that aren't going to make anything better for them. These are the true snakeoil salesmen... Hope and Change... grandiosity with zero substance.

 

unions are a microcosm of this... They spout all the same BS, and basically they soak business, and they soak their new recruits, and they give it all to a corrupt bureaucracy that favors a chosen few (not based on merit). The young hardworking kid gets laid off while the older union bureaucrat reaps the benefit with his guaranteed job and bene's and above market pay... Its pretty sad.

 

 

Think for yourself because the world will try to scam you if it can...

[BudBro 123]

i was searching for the sunday night football game on the radio while driving through denver and stumbled across the "progressive" radio station out of boulder. the 2 hosts were passionate in their description of the evil republican party and used almost the exact language and scenarios that are used against obama on the conservative stations. it is almost as if the narrative is the same, just the names are interchangeable. they didn't give a phone number for a chance to call in and talk though.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

The whole liberal party is trying to herd a bunch of cats from all the special interest groups who all think they need to be deferred to and placated first...

 

 

If you were to toss out all conservative thought you'd still have a giant clusterfock of special interest groups fighting for their share of the pie...

 

The only thing they can all agree about is that they can hate the other side... Dems are 99% talk on actually doing things to help these special interest groups... All this talk about unity is BS, everyone on that side is in it for themselves...

 

If they didn't have fox news to rail against they'd have a second to realize that their 'platform' doesn't remotely help them... It oppresses them, concentrates their power into people that aren't going to make anything better for them. These are the true snakeoil salesmen... Hope and Change... grandiosity with zero substance.

 

unions are a microcosm of this... They spout all the same BS, and basically they soak business, and they soak their new recruits, and they give it all to a corrupt bureaucracy that favors a chosen few (not based on merit). The young hardworking kid gets laid off while the older union bureaucrat reaps the benefit with his guaranteed job and bene's and above market pay... Its pretty sad.

 

 

Think for yourself because the world will try to scam you if it can...

 

You raise some valid points about the Democratic Party. It is, of course, many disparate interests, some of whom don't give a rat's fock about the other (environmentalists and labor for instance).

 

But don't pretend the same is not true of the other party. You have the Wall Street crowd allying themselves with Jesus and Guns to get the trailer park dweller to vote for them in spit of the fact that they are busy broom handling him in the cornhole.

 

In conclusion, both parties are conglomerations of disparate interest that form together to form corrupt pieces of sh!t.

[Cdub100 3,450]

Apparently you missed my recent link to a study which shows that liberals are worse than conservatives at empathizing with the positions of the other side?

 

My link

 

For me Who voteed D, D & R in the last 3 presidential elections. what turns me off talking to right wing friends is just how angry they are. I don't consider myself liberal or Conservative so I can't empathize with the anger. Just like I can't empathize with the government owes me something crowd. I don't get any of you hacks.

[jerryskids 5,401]

For me Who voteed D, D & R in the last 3 presidential elections. what turns me off talking to right wing friends is just how angry they are. I don't consider myself liberal or Conservative so I can't empathize with the anger. Just like I can't empathize with the government owes me something crowd. I don't get any of you hacks.

 

Since my purpose in this thread seems to be to disprove misconceptions, here is an article from the NYT referencing several studies which show that conservatives are happier than liberals:

 

WHO is happier about life — liberals or conservatives? The answer might seem straightforward. After all, there is an entire academic literature in the social sciences dedicated to showing conservatives as naturally authoritarian, dogmatic, intolerant of ambiguity, fearful of threat and loss, low in self-esteem and uncomfortable with complex modes of thinking. And it was the candidate Barack Obama in 2008 who infamously labeled blue-collar voters “bitter,” as they “cling to guns or religion.” Obviously, liberals must be happier, right? Wrong. Scholars on both the left and right have studied this question extensively, and have reached a consensus that it is conservatives who possess the happiness edge. Many data sets show this. For example, the Pew Research Center in 2006 reported that conservative Republicans were 68 percent more likely than liberal Democrats to say they were “very happy” about their lives. This pattern has persisted for decades. The question isn’t whether this is true, but why.

 

Many conservatives favor an explanation focusing on lifestyle differences, such as marriage and faith. They note that most conservatives are married; most liberals are not. (The percentages are 53 percent to 33 percent, according to my calculations using data from the 2004 General Social Survey, and almost none of the gap is due to the fact that liberals tend to be younger than conservatives.) Marriage and happiness go together. If two people are demographically the same but one is married and the other is not, the married person will be 18 percentage points more likely to say he or she is very happy than the unmarried person.

 

The story on religion is much the same. According to the Social Capital Community Benchmark Survey, conservatives who practice a faith outnumber religious liberals in America nearly four to one. And the link to happiness? You guessed it. Religious participants are nearly twice as likely to say they are very happy about their lives as are secularists (43 percent to 23 percent). The differences don’t depend on education, race, sex or age; the happiness difference exists even when you account for income.

 

Whether religion and marriage should make people happy is a question you have to answer for yourself. But consider this: Fifty-two percent of married, religious, politically conservative people (with kids) are very happy — versus only 14 percent of single, secular, liberal people without kids.

 

An explanation for the happiness gap more congenial to liberals is that conservatives are simply inattentive to the misery of others. If they recognized the injustice in the world, they wouldn’t be so cheerful. In the words of Jaime Napier and John Jost, New York University psychologists, in the journal Psychological Science, “Liberals may be less happy than conservatives because they are less ideologically prepared to rationalize (or explain away) the degree of inequality in society.” The academic parlance for this is “system justification.”

 

The data show that conservatives do indeed see the free enterprise system in a sunnier light than liberals do, believing in each American’s ability to get ahead on the basis of achievement. Liberals are more likely to see people as victims of circumstance and oppression, and doubt whether individuals can climb without governmental help. My own analysis using 2005 survey data from Syracuse University shows that about 90 percent of conservatives agree that “While people may begin with different opportunities, hard work and perseverance can usually overcome those disadvantages.” Liberals — even upper-income liberals — are a third less likely to say this.

 

So conservatives are ignorant, and ignorance is bliss, right? Not so fast, according to a study from the University of Florida psychologists Barry Schlenker and John Chambers and the University of Toronto psychologist Bonnie Le in the Journal of Research in Personality. These scholars note that liberals define fairness and an improved society in terms of greater economic equality. Liberals then condemn the happiness of conservatives, because conservatives are relatively untroubled by a problem that, it turns out, their political counterparts defined.

 

Imagine the opposite. Say liberals were the happy ones. Conservatives might charge that it is only because liberals are unperturbed by the social welfare state’s monstrous threat to economic liberty. Liberals would justifiably dismiss this argument as solipsistic and silly.

 

There is one other noteworthy political happiness gap that has gotten less scholarly attention than conservatives versus liberals: moderates versus extremists.

 

Political moderates must be happier than extremists, it always seemed to me. After all, extremists actually advertise their misery with strident bumper stickers that say things like, “If you’re not outraged, you’re not paying attention!”

 

But it turns out that’s wrong. People at the extremes are happier than political moderates. Correcting for income, education, age, race, family situation and religion, the happiest Americans are those who say they are either “extremely conservative” (48 percent very happy) or “extremely liberal” (35 percent). Everyone else is less happy, with the nadir at dead-center “moderate” (26 percent).

 

What explains this odd pattern? One possibility is that extremists have the whole world figured out, and sorted into good guys and bad guys. They have the security of knowing what’s wrong, and whom to fight. They are the happy warriors.

 

Whatever the explanation, the implications are striking. The Occupy Wall Street protesters may have looked like a miserable mess. In truth, they were probably happier than the moderates making fun of them from the offices above. And none, it seems, are happier than the Tea Partiers, many of whom cling to guns and faith with great tenacity. Which some moderately liberal readers of this newspaper might find quite depressing.

 

Arthur C. Brooks is the president of the American Enterprise Institute and the author of “The Road to Freedom” and “Gross National Happiness.”

 

 

My link

[MedStudent 56]

Since my purpose in this thread seems to be to disprove misconceptions, here is an article from the NYT referencing several studies which show that conservatives are happier than liberals:

 

 

 

My link

 

Interesting article Jerry. It just proves the old adage:

"ignorance is bliss."

[IGotWorms 3,430]

Interesting article Jerry. It just proves the old adage:

"ignorance is bliss."

 

 

I was gonna say, I'd probably be happier too if I didn't concern myself with facts.

[jerryskids 5,401]

To help the reading-impaired:

 

So conservatives are ignorant, and ignorance is bliss, right? Not so fast, according to a study from the University of Florida psychologists Barry Schlenker and John Chambers and the University of Toronto psychologist Bonnie Le in the Journal of Research in Personality. These scholars note that liberals define fairness and an improved society in terms of greater economic equality. Liberals then condemn the happiness of conservatives, because conservatives are relatively untroubled by a problem that, it turns out, their political counterparts defined.

 

Imagine the opposite. Say liberals were the happy ones. Conservatives might charge that it is only because liberals are unperturbed by the social welfare state’s monstrous threat to economic liberty. Liberals would justifiably dismiss this argument as solipsistic and silly.

 

YWIA

[MDC 5,963]

What I've learned from this thread is that if conservatives are on the whole happier or more empathetic, that means they can't also be angry.

[SUXBNME 1,354]

The whole liberal party is trying to herd a bunch of cats from all the special interest groups who all think they need to be deferred to and placated first...

 

 

If you were to toss out all conservative thought you'd still have a giant clusterfock of special interest groups fighting for their share of the pie...

 

The only thing they can all agree about is that they can hate the other side... Dems are 99% talk on actually doing things to help these special interest groups... All this talk about unity is BS, everyone on that side is in it for themselves...

 

If they didn't have fox news to rail against they'd have a second to realize that their 'platform' doesn't remotely help them... It oppresses them, concentrates their power into people that aren't going to make anything better for them. These are the true snakeoil salesmen... Hope and Change... grandiosity with zero substance.

 

unions are a microcosm of this... They spout all the same BS, and basically they soak business, and they soak their new recruits, and they give it all to a corrupt bureaucracy that favors a chosen few (not based on merit). The young hardworking kid gets laid off while the older union bureaucrat reaps the benefit with his guaranteed job and bene's and above market pay... Its pretty sad.

 

 

Think for yourself because the world will try to scam you if it can...

I like this DankNuggs fella

[Savage Beast 1]

All political nuts are angry. And their political party affiliations have nothing to do with it.

 

Here is an example angry Democrats attacking a FOX News crew.

 

[penultimatestraw 473]

To help the reading-impaired:

 

 

 

YWIA

I don't understand the point of that section, and the article it links is not available. Care to explain?