RLLD 4,275 Posted June 24, 2015 Really impressed with the direction and actions resulting from this event. The people of Charleston are amazing, inspiring, evolved...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted June 24, 2015 You'll never get the redneck trailer trash to stop flying their racist flags, but there shouldn't be any state or local entities ever flying/hanging it. It's offensive to an entire race. It's like the swastika. you know black guys out there fly it too. I know it's hard to understand, but the flag doesn't mean hate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted June 24, 2015 GOD HATES FLAGS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,433 Posted June 24, 2015 you know black guys out there fly it too. I know it's hard to understand, but the flag doesn't mean hate. Really? I have never seen a black guy flying a Rebel flag. Are some of your best friends black, too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted June 24, 2015 Really? I have never seen a black guy flying a Rebel flag. Are some of your best friends black, too? I have some close friends that are black and I'm the only non-minority elected to the board of directors for a nonprofit for minority males in Houston. Yes, I have seen black guys in SC fly a rebel flag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted June 24, 2015 Really? I have never seen a black guy flying a Rebel flag. Are some of your best friends black, too? I have. One of my buddies does it. It's quite common in SC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted June 24, 2015 I have some close friends that are black and I'm the only non-minority elected to the board of directors for a nonprofit for minority males in Houston. Yes, I have seen black guys in SC fly a rebel flag. this explains a whole lot. I thought your few black friends we're big fans of The Hobbit and were calling you Tolkein. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted June 24, 2015 Mungwater Kardashian. He is a Mung shark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted June 24, 2015 Mungwater Kardashian. He is a Mung shark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted June 24, 2015 It's happening. Huge groundswell. Walmart, ebay, ect. All halting sales of any confederate merchandise. It's a shame it took such a horrible tragedy to bring the issue to the forefront again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted June 24, 2015 leave it to America to make an incredibly pointless gesture in the face of tragic underrated violence. I wonder how long it will take for us to start destroying Dixie Chicks CDs again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted June 24, 2015 leave it to America to make an incredibly pointless gesture in the face of tragic underrated violence. I wonder how long it will take for us to start destroying Dixie Chicks CDs again? Or them attacking Dixie league baseball. Honestly it wouldn't surprise me. People always have to find something to attack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted June 24, 2015 Definitely true. However you notice how calm and respectful people from my home state are being about it. There's no reports of looting or rioting there. The culture there is different from places like Baltimore. It's a shame something like this happened there because some of the nicest people you will meet are from the south. Comparing a situation where police are involved in the death of a civilian and a nutbag shooting up a church is apples and oranges. Why would people feel the need to riot and loot in this situation as compared to Baltimore? Not that there is a need to do it in any situation, but the situations that often lead to rioting aren't in play here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,850 Posted June 24, 2015 As a bored Republican, I view the tragic murder of 9 black churchgoers in South Carolina as a prime opportunity to complain about black people in Baltimore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted June 24, 2015 As a bored Republican, I view the tragic murder of 9 black churchgoers in South Carolina as a prime opportunity to complain about black people in Baltimore. Or a chance to compliment all thise nice folks proudly displaying a racist symbol because it's not racist to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,807 Posted June 24, 2015 Who knew a flag had the ability to shoot a gun... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,807 Posted June 24, 2015 So what's next? Renaming military bases that are named after Confederate Generals? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted June 24, 2015 Who knew a flag had the ability to shoot a gun... Once again, posty comes in right on time with a nonsensical post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,807 Posted June 24, 2015 Once again, posty comes in right on time with a nonsensical post. My co-poster is a little behind on news stories... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted June 24, 2015 So what's next? Renaming military bases that are named after Confederate Generals? Hood, Benning, Bragg, Lee, Polk, quite a few of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted June 24, 2015 You know, the swastika is an ancient symbol, revered in Hinduism and Buddhism. In and of itself, it's not racist. The symbol itself didn't kill any Jews, gypsys, homosexuals, or any of the other groups deemed subhuman by the Nazis. I think I'll fly a flag with the swastika outside my home, and say fock you to the PC police. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted June 24, 2015 My co-poster is a little behind on news stories... Perhaps you can link me to the news story that claimed a flag shot a gun or had the ability to shoot a gun. TIA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted June 24, 2015 You know, the swastika is an ancient symbol, revered in Hinduism and Buddhism. In and of itself, it's not racist. The symbol itself didn't kill any Jews, gypsys, homosexuals, or any of the other groups deemed subhuman by the Nazis. I think I'll fly a flag with the swastika outside my home, and say fock you to the PC police. The nazi swastika and Buddhist swastika are different, one is counterclockwise and the other is clockwise. Different symbols Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted June 24, 2015 The nazi swastika and Buddhist swastika are different, one is counterclockwise and the other is clockwise. Different symbols History of the swastika. http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007453 In Hinduism, it's used both clockwise and counterclockwise, each representing different things. Variations of it are or have been used in dozens of cultures and religions. Does that make it okay for me to fly a swastika flag since it really only came to represent genocide in the 20th century? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted June 24, 2015 History of the swastika. http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007453 In Hinduism, it's used both clockwise and counterclockwise, each representing different things. Variations of it are or have been used in dozens of cultures and religions. Does that make it okay for me to fly a swastika flag since it really only came to represent genocide in the 20th century? If you want. If you want to go down that route, include the Christian cross on the list. Lots of killings and hate done with that thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,850 Posted June 24, 2015 If you want. If you want to go down that route, include the Christian cross on the list. Lots of killings and hate done with that thing Crusades! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted June 24, 2015 Crusades! Just pointing out how dumb it is to compare a confederate flag to a nazi symbol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted June 24, 2015 Just pointing out how dumb it is to compare a confederate flag to a nazi symbol. How is it dumb? It's a symbol that many equate with racism and oppression, and, some would argue, genocide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 601 Posted June 24, 2015 How is it dumb? It's a symbol that many equate with racism and oppression, and, some would argue, genocide. It's a flag of a nation that existed 150 years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted June 24, 2015 It's a flag of a nation that existed 150 years ago. And a symbol of racism, oppression, and, some would say, genocide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,995 Posted June 24, 2015 I think I'll fly a flag with the swastika outside my home, and say fock you to the PC police. More people should say fock you to the PC police. Good for you. Please post pics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,807 Posted June 24, 2015 And so it begins... School board bans ‘Dixie’ song, ‘Rebels’ mascot http://eagnews.org/school-board-bans-dixie-song-rebels-mascot/ SAN DIEGO, Calif. – School across the country are reacting to a recent racially motivated church shooting in South Carolina by distancing themselves from the Old South. Police believe 21-year-old Dylann Roof attended a bible study at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in downtown Charleston June 17 before opening fire on a dozen people, killing a total of nine black men and women, and injuring one other, The Washington Post reports. “Federal law enforcement officials said Roof, who is white, declared his hatred for black people before opening fire, and the U.S. Justice Department has said it is investigating the attack as a hate crime,” according to the Post. Leading up to the attack, Roof posted pictures to social media of himself burning the American flag and holding a confederate flag – in one image also posing with a handgun, CNN reports. In the wake of the deadliest racially motivated shooting in U.S. history, schools across the country are now attempting to do away with their connection to the confederacy, most recently in San Diego. Tuesday, California Assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez called on officials in the San Diego Unified School District to change the name of Robert E. Lee Elementary in response to the attack, Fox 5 reports. “The flag in particular, and anyone associated with this army, in general, have been associated with intolerance, racism and hate, none of which have a place in our schools,” Gonzalez wrote in a letter to SDUSD Superintendent City Marten. “It is also important to note that the area in which the elementary school is located is truly representative of South San Diego – a vibrant, multi-ethnic community with a strong African-American presence that deserves a school named after someone we can all admire. “Robert E. Lee is not that person.” District officials did not respond to Fox 5’s request for comment, but instead issued a bland statement. “We are sensitive to the concerns voiced by some members of the community that it may not be appropriate to have a school named after Robert E. Lee. We see this as a wonderful opportunity to have a larger community dialogue with students, staff and families about the school name and look at the history and research surrounding Lee in order to make a collectively informed decision about changing the name or retaining it,” the statement read. “Should the community determine a name change is appropriate, there is a clear process for school naming that is inclusive of a variety of stakeholders and provides clear rationale for a new name.” The same day, board members with the Fort Smith school district in Arkansas also moved to ban references to the Old South from Southside High School. Board members banned the school song “Dixie,” and moved to change the school’s rebel mascot for next school year, 5 News reports. Board member Susan McFerran told the news site the changes were inspired by the Charleston shooting, and suggested by the school’s alumni. “There was a 30 year class reunion this weekend,” McFerran said Monday. “It come to our attention that the public has been pretty upset about the Confederate flag, which has already been removed, the rebel mascot (and) the playing of the ‘Dixie.’” Reaction to the changes prompted mixed reactions from locals. Caleb Coleman told News 5 he doesn’t think the changes are for the better. “It will be kind of different, almost like a different school I think,” Coleman said. “All the different people that have gone through this school with athletics and different things, it will almost be like the school they didn’t play for really.” Others, like 1981 grad Kelly Wingfield, remember when the Confederate flag flew over Southside, and is glad to see it go. “I feel like maybe it is time to get rid of it,” Winfield told News 5. “(For) some people it does bring bad memories of a bad time in our history. I think it would be just probably better.” McFerran said the changes will mean new uniforms for sports teams, though she didn’t divulge how much the mascot and other changes will ultimately cost taxpayers. “We’ve got orchestra, the band, Dixie bells, the cheerleaders, football team, basketball team, softball team, soccer, tennis, golf,” she said of the uniform changes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,783 Posted June 24, 2015 And so it begins... It was the song that killed those people? I thought was the flag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,850 Posted June 24, 2015 I thought the initial shooting was bad but how I see the real victims are hillbillies who might lose their favorite flags and mascots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted June 24, 2015 Comparing a situation where police are involved in the death of a civilian and a nutbag shooting up a church is apples and oranges. Why would people feel the need to riot and loot in this situation as compared to Baltimore? Not that there is a need to do it in any situation, but the situations that often lead to rioting aren't in play here. Did you notice how nobody rioted after the Boston bombing...yay Boston...stupid Baltimore...its all the same you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted June 24, 2015 It was the song that killed those people? I thought was the flag. Nobody has said either...yet you keep posting it. BTW...people have been getting rid of things like Rebels for a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfreak 84 Posted June 24, 2015 That period of history 1860's is a low point in u.s. history and non of it's artifacts should be used as symbols of celebration they should be placed in museums and history textbooks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,063 Posted June 24, 2015 Just a whole lotta stupid flying around here. The confederacy was what it was and the flag stands for many things, including fighting a civil war so you can keep your slaves. But this is America and free speech and all, so all this banning sh1t is just going too far. Maybe just everybody tone it down a bit and we can call it good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted June 24, 2015 Just a whole lotta stupid flying around here. The confederacy was what it was and the flag stands for many things, including fighting a civil war so you can keep your slaves. But this is America and free speech and all, so all this banning sh1t is just going too far. Maybe just everybody tone it down a bit and we can call it good? I'm all for keeping sh!t like the Confederate flag around. I like stuff that allows me to instantly identify people as total focking idiots and deal with them accordingly. It's like getting them to wear a dunce cap, only they do it voluntarily and will actually fight for their right to wear it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,173 Posted June 24, 2015 So out of this whole tragedy the main, overriding thing people are talking about is a flag? Good grief. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
