R8RMick 242 Posted August 28, 2015 Of course, if Randle finishes the season with 2,000 total yards and 10 TD, he will get zero credit from all th haters. It's just business my man, no hating. I'd be the first to throw props. On a related note, still watching the Frisco-Boys rerun, Lael Collins is out there running with the second and third teamers and is an absolute beast. Many of the leagues rook offensive linemen have been struggling this pre-season, but Dallas absolutely hit the mother lode with this guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirensong 111 Posted August 28, 2015 How much does the Scandrick injury effect your defense? well, you've read the press lately. he was already one of the top slot guys in the league, then started 13 games last season at RCB. gave up no TDs on 69 targets, with 2 FF and 2 INT. played angry, and brought an edge to the defense. that said, CB is the deepest position group on the team. furthermore, the D line is starting to get pressure, which is going to make the back end look better. it's significant that the 1st round pick--who was having a great camp--couldn't even break into the top 3 corners. patmon flashed a lot of ability last season, and even if claiborne can't hold off jones as the starter, mo is still better than most 4th corners. so it doesn't hurt nearly as bad as the lee injury last season. long story short, losing scandrick means giving up a few more TDs this season, through big plays or extended drives. but it could be much, much worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magnificent Bastard 191 Posted August 28, 2015 R8RMick I disagree with your man-crush on Murray being Dallas savior. Dallas made a dynasty with Preston Pearson and Robert Newhouse. Tony Dorsett found his own holes. Emmitt Smith was average back who had holes anybody could of ran through. Good grief Dallas finally made a good decision getting rid of a guy who has been healthy 1 out of 4 years. Ill put Murray in the Herschel Walker category. Just another guy that will fill the good will store racks . Dumbest shite I've ever read around here. I'm a die hard NYG fan, and love to tweak the Cowboy fans. But Emmitt Smith average? Pure 100% stupidity. A dynasty with Pearson and Newhouse? A Dynasty is one super bowl now? Dorsett also belongs to the one Suoer bowl club. Emmitt has 3, and probably would have had more if Jerruh didn't run off Jimmy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squintz82 45 Posted August 28, 2015 The Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports no running back has separated himself at Cowboys camp, and the expectation is Dallas uses a committee approach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,191 Posted August 28, 2015 Very late pick up Dunbar . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,259 Posted August 28, 2015 The Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports no running back has separated himself at Cowboys camp, and the expectation is Dallas uses a committee approach. They can talk about using committee all they want, but the fact is McFadden is a terrible rb. Why would they use a rb with no talent in a pure timeshare? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,259 Posted August 28, 2015 The Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports no running back has separated himself at Cowboys camp, and the expectation is Dallas uses a committee approach. They can talk about using committee all they want, but the fact is McFadden is a terrible rb. Why would they use a rb with no talent in a pure timeshare? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,259 Posted August 28, 2015 The Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports no running back has separated himself at Cowboys camp, and the expectation is Dallas uses a committee approach. They can talk about using committee all they want, but the fact is McFadden is a terrible rb. Why would they use a rb with no talent in a pure timeshare? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R8RMick 242 Posted August 28, 2015 I actually think if McFragile can stay healthy he gives them far better upside. Of course that's not saying much since he's barely played. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted August 28, 2015 Why would they use a rb with no talent in a pure timeshare? Bcoz: 1. Terrible in Oakland may not necessarily mean terrible in Dallas. 2. He was a freakish bargain deal - no reason not to take a look at a 6'2" runner with some speed for that price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R8RMick 242 Posted August 28, 2015 Bcoz: 1. Terrible in Oakland may not necessarily mean terrible in Dallas. 2. He was a freakish bargain deal - no reason not to take a look at a 6'2" runner with some speed for that price. I'd like to point out that after Oakland sacked McFragile in Week 10, the team had something resembling a running game and went 3-3 down the stretch. I just think Jerry Jones has an epiphany of resurrecting McFragile's career behind that bad-ass offensive line. I also think he's better than Randle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted August 29, 2015 The Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports no running back has separated himself at Cowboys camp, and the expectation is Dallas uses a committee approach. DMC won't be part of it for long. He will be hurt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted August 29, 2015 I think the oline is who you're drafting here. I like Randle for that reason, big concern is his health right now though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,191 Posted August 29, 2015 Telling you that Dunbar late is the play , both McFadden and Randle will be missing time from injury or stealing underware . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeH 6 Posted August 30, 2015 Watching Cowboys vs. Vikes. DMC running really well tonight. One cut and heading straight up the field. Randle did way too much dancing, and was hit behind the line a couple of times. Randle played the first two series so far, DMC the next two. I really think people taking Randle in the 3rd or 4th are not going to like the outcome. DMC in the 8-9th could be great value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drizzay 719 Posted August 30, 2015 Meh, I wouldn't get too excited. He is doing it against all 2nd teamers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeH 6 Posted August 30, 2015 Meh, I wouldn't get too excited. He is doing it against all 2nd teamers. Are you watching the game? Just curious if your assuming that or not. I'm don't know much about the Vikes D, but I hadn't heard anything about the 2nd team being in yet. DMC did a lot of damage early in the 2nd qtr. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drizzay 719 Posted August 30, 2015 Yeah, 3 of his 4 runs in the 2nd quarter were against the Viking's 2nd team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 30, 2015 Watching Cowboys vs. Vikes. DMC running really well tonight. One cut and heading straight up the field. Randle did way too much dancing, and was hit behind the line a couple of times. Randle played the first two series so far, DMC the next two. I really think people taking Randle in the 3rd or 4th are not going to like the outcome. DMC in the 8-9th could be great value. For how long though? Ive seen the story on DMC before...he looks good for a few weeks...and then is hurt or badly dinged and he is either out or you can't trust him enough to start him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,259 Posted August 30, 2015 For how long though? Ive seen the story on DMC before...he looks good for a few weeks...and then is hurt or badly dinged and he is either out or you can't trust him enough to start him. I wouldnt trust DMC to stay healthy running to get the mail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thePRO 78 Posted August 30, 2015 Yeah, 3 of his 4 runs in the 2nd quarter were against the Viking's 2nd team They said 9 of 11 starters were still in.... Maybe they were wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirensong 111 Posted August 30, 2015 Yeah, 3 of his 4 runs in the 2nd quarter were against the Viking's 2nd team meh--murray only averaged 3.7 last preseason, playing well into the 2Q in both of his games. DAL fans were panicking that the RB couldn't stay healthy, that the run game was going to suck, and that romo was going to lose a bunch of games for them. sound familiar? in preseason, i'm more interested in how a RB runs than his average. is he hitting holes hard? is he making decisive cuts? is he tentative? honestly, DMC is making a case for the #1 spot lately, and randle is looking more like a reliever. broaddus is convinced that DMC should be the starter, and i'm less and less inclined to disagree with him. at any rate, randle's ADP should be dropping, and DMC late is looking like a better and better value. i expect both of them to play substantial snaps next week, so we'll know more then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted August 30, 2015 Alot of talking heads and analysts are saying DMC has all but taken control of the lead RB role in Dal. Yes it's just blab but there's still a bit of fire around this smoke. Enough for me to say I'd rather chance a 9th rounder (GL after tonite) on DMC than a 3rd or 4th on Randle. Heck Iv been saying that for months, but it's only coming into reality lately. Also Siren, I wouldn't bet on seeing them get extensive snaps next week. They are evaluating within and not many guys play week 4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plasma george 62 Posted August 30, 2015 (GL after tonite) I agree....but what's this mean ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirensong 111 Posted August 30, 2015 Alot of talking heads and analysts are saying DMC has all but taken control of the lead RB role in Dal. Yes it's just blab but there's still a bit of fire around this smoke. Enough for me to say I'd rather chance a 9th rounder (GL after tonite) on DMC than a 3rd or 4th on Randle. Heck Iv been saying that for months, but it's only coming into reality lately. Also Siren, I wouldn't bet on seeing them get extensive snaps next week. They are evaluating within and not many guys play week 4. yup--i had expected someone to separate by now, but it hasn't happened. i've been projecting randle as a solid 4th rounder, but he's fading a bit. we'll see about the snaps in P4. garrett is big on deciding competitions on the field, and DAL needs to know what they have prior to week 1. if i had to make a prediction, i'd say that they'll split the first half. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted August 30, 2015 I agree....but what's this mean ? Good luck after tonight. His ADP is moving on up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squintz82 45 Posted August 31, 2015 Yahoo! Sports' Charles Robinson reports the Cowboys believe Darren McFadden is the "best of the bunch" at running back. Robinson reports the Cowboys are committed to a running back by committee, but he added Dallas would have likely ridden McFadden's hot hand on Saturday night had it been a regular season game. Owner Jerry Jones has talked up Joseph Randle all offseason, but it appears McFadden has a real chance to lead the team in touches if he can stay healthy. The uncertainty surrounding the situation makes Randle un-draftable in the fourth round. According to Yahoo's Charles Robinson, the Cowboys' plan to use an RBBC backfield is "not a bluff," and the rotation will be a "committee in the purest NFL form." Per Robinson, "the Cowboys are adamant that their elite offensive line can be the glue that elevates a collection of parts into a greater whole." In other words, the Cowboys are banking on their O-Line and less on the talent of their backfield, which is questionable to be kind with Joe Randle, Darren McFadden, and Lance Dunbar vying for work. Had Saturday night's preseason game been a regular season one, Robinson believes the Cowboys "would have ridden McFadden's hot hand," despite Randle starting the game. Robinson guesses none of the Cowboys' backs will rush for more than 850 yards this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted August 31, 2015 I don't believe the DMC we've seen last few years can do it. He was Mr. 2.5 with Oak. Randle did 6.7 last year iirc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,259 Posted August 31, 2015 Sooo after one game of looking OK he is now the man? The season needs to start. This 180 week to week is getting out of control Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 753 Posted August 31, 2015 DMC is out. got a papercut when he signed his first endorsement contract. That papercut is now seriously infected. He may be out for the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SexyRexy 60 Posted August 31, 2015 I just drafted and after a pick trade had back to back 6ths. I went Spiller and Randle who slide to 6th round. Couldn't be happier with this. Guess Randle slid to 6th bc of this DMC nonsense particularly what was reported the second our draft started. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,191 Posted August 31, 2015 It's going to be interesting to see how this works out , but in my last two drafts I might make a push very late last pick for Dunbar . Why not just a feeling they are both PPR . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,259 Posted August 31, 2015 I can understand not wanting the risk of Randle, but dmc is not the answer. Im not buying in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted August 31, 2015 For those that saw the game - it wasn't even close. DMC was clearly the best Cowboys back on the field... Can he stay healthy? Prolly not - but that's a different discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted August 31, 2015 For those that saw the game - it wasn't even close. DMC was clearly the best Cowboys back on the field... Can he stay healthy? Prolly not - but that's a different discussion. And how did he look the week before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,995 Posted August 31, 2015 And how did he look the week before? Certainly not as sharp as this week.... Then again, last week he had no Romo, a back up offensive line and was still getting into playing shape... Not to suggest Randle hasn't looked good at times too.... I just feel DMC can do things Randle can't - given equal conditions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted August 31, 2015 Laughing at all the 3rd and 4th round Randle buyers. Almost came to blows in a draft the other day with the Randle owner when I said "No one wants the starting rb for the cowboys in rnd 9?" When DMC was still on the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted August 31, 2015 Starting to think that when DMC goes down with injury Randle might just be a top 3 RB. I get this weird feeling he's going to go nuts. I regret not being able to nab him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobSanders_33 127 Posted August 31, 2015 At this point I think the dream of landing a RB1 or high RB2 out of the Dallas backfield depends on injury. I think that Dunbar will have the passing game and hurry up role which will give him 20% of the snaps. I don't know who will lead and who will be the second primary back but it is likely to be split 50/30 or even at the best case 60/20. Even at 60/20/20 it leaves at as an low RB2. Randle and DMC don't have a defined goal line role and either could be used week to week. Unless on of those guys goes downs its a situation to avoid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AintNoStoppinMeNow 68 Posted August 31, 2015 What would truly be funny (or cruel, interesting, mind boggling, etc) would be if a FA like FJAX or Ray Rice came in and ended up being the guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
