drobeski 3,061 Posted November 3, 2016 They are going down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted November 3, 2016 I'm sorry, but unless Fox News is fabricating stuff (which I realize could be possible, but unlikely), this is pretty bad. Clinton could literally be imprisoned after getting elected as POTUS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,429 Posted November 3, 2016 They are going down Worms is unhinged. Crying for Mike to ban people Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 3, 2016 Worms is unhinged. Crying for Mike to ban people relax its just a FOX news witch hunt, nothing to actually see Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted November 3, 2016 I'm sorry, but unless Fox News is fabricating stuff (which I realize could be possible, but unlikely), this is pretty bad. Clinton could literally be imprisoned after getting elected as POTUS. sounds like a great reason for people to vote for her. No Trump, and No Clinton...where can we sign up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted November 3, 2016 Yes that's a very credible source you have Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,541 Posted November 3, 2016 It's easy to say "but Fox News", but when it comes to DOJ/FBI stuff their reporter doing the research is Catherine Herridge. She is rarely if ever wrong and doesn't overstate the information she obtains. She is as respected as any journalist out there. I wouldn't be dismissive of the information she provides to Fox. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted November 3, 2016 I'm sorry, but unless Fox News is fabricating stuff (which I realize could be possible, but unlikely), this is pretty bad. Clinton could literally be imprisoned after getting elected as POTUS. Not likely. If this has any legs other than a squabble between factions at the FBI, someone will take the fall, likely Huma or someone on that level, for hiding information. If it does point to Clinton, it will get squashed, and Congress will spend millions investigating it. I know how much you guys are salivating for it, but no Clinton is going to prison. Not gonna happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted November 3, 2016 but no Clinton is going to prison. Not gonna happen. I agree with this, the system has proven that they will protect them in every way possible. They are clearly above the law. I am just glad they are being exposed, if people still choose to blindly follow the Clinton's and their cohorts, that's on them (you). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted November 3, 2016 Not likely. If this has any legs other than a squabble between factions at the FBI, someone will take the fall, likely Huma or someone on that level, for hiding information. If it does point to Clinton, it will get squashed, and Congress will spend millions investigating it. I know how much you guys are salivating for it, but no Clinton is going to prison. Not gonna happen. Sincere question: would you agree that Hillary is dirty/corrupt? Bonus question: do you think she's corrupt enough that she's done something punishable by imprisonment? I don't think there's any way she'll go to prison. However, I'm a firm believer that where there's smoke, there's fire. My opinion is she's into some very dirty sh1t. At a minimum money-laundering and accepting bribes for votes, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 3, 2016 Worms is unhinged. Crying for Mike to ban peoplehe did ? Busy today, missed it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,264 Posted November 3, 2016 THIS is why you retards who said you're gonna vote for her because you don't like Trump make sound like idiots. I may not really like Trump but Hillary is focking criminal and will Fock up this country. Thank God this is happening finally. Yet you will still have those people "well I don't like Trump waaaah " crying and stil voting for her. I'll take the lesser of two evils please So Trump sexually assaulting women isn't a crime? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted November 3, 2016 How is a guy who has lied just as much...if not more...the lesser of two evils? How is a guy who may have raped a 13 year old, who has harassed multiple women, who has ogled 10 year old girls, who has walked in dressing rooms with 15 year old girls, who ogles his own daughter...the lesser of 2 evils? How is a guy that not only doesnt have a clue about the issues, he diesnt even seem inclined to learn...the lesser of two evils? How is a guy facing a case for fraud and racketeering...the lesser of 2 evils? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 3, 2016 cause while he has done all those things allegedly in his private life, Hillary has done them all while part of the Govt also Scotus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted November 3, 2016 Sincere question: would you agree that Hillary is dirty/corrupt? Bonus question: do you think she's corrupt enough that she's done something punishable by imprisonment? I don't think there's any way she'll go to prison. However, I'm a firm believer that where there's smoke, there's fire. My opinion is she's into some very dirty sh1t. At a minimum money-laundering and accepting bribes for votes, etc. First question-yes. I think everyone who gets to the point of the presidency has dirt on them or has dirty people around them. Second question-I don't think so. There was some serious envelope pushing that was done for no good reason as it relates to the email and server thing, but nothing that rises to that level. The whole "pay-for-play" thing doesn't register with me, since wealthy donors have been buying access to politicians forever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted November 3, 2016 First question-yes. I think everyone who gets to the point of the presidency has dirt on them or has dirty people around them. Second question-I don't think so. There was some serious envelope pushing that was done for no good reason as it relates to the email and server thing, but nothing that rises to that level. The whole "pay-for-play" thing doesn't register with me, since wealthy donors have been buying access to politicians forever. Agree. I've been challenging people to bring me the criminal charge - and it's just not there. You've got a few crazies here shouting "Treason!" and "Felony!" and "Jail time"! - and there's (so far) just no "there, there". At worst, it's a violation of professional conduct / departmental policy. The one I'd like to suss out more (or have you guys do it) is the destruction of emails and devices. Seems timing is the issue. Did they do it before or after being served? - And best case, they did it before being served, but got tipped off - That's some shady shiit to be sure. Even then, I'd see that as Obstruction at best. - Wholly shady, but I'm not sure it rises to felony levels - would be curious. Even then, they'd probably have a fall guy for that. HRC's smart (and slimy) enough not to put her paw prints directly on that kind of order. There is absolutely NO story in Pay for Play. That dog just isn't hunting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,429 Posted November 3, 2016 Pay for play at the State Department and pay to play with some congressman. from the 12th district of bumfock USA are different animals. You would think savy political observers would know that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted November 3, 2016 First question-yes. I think everyone who gets to the point of the presidency has dirt on them or has dirty people around them. Second question-I don't think so. There was some serious envelope pushing that was done for no good reason as it relates to the email and server thing, but nothing that rises to that level. The whole "pay-for-play" thing doesn't register with me, since wealthy donors have been buying access to politicians forever. Appreciate the candid responses. My curiosity is "Did she accept money from foreign people"? IE...was she bought to sway opinion on foreign affairs? I agree with your sentiment that to get to the WH you gotta make deals. That alone makes you dirty. I just happen to believe she's shameless and ultra-crooked. Believe me, I don't want Trump to be our POTUS. I'd rather have Rand Paul by a mile. Hell I'd take Ted Cruz over Trump. But I don't think Clinton honestly gives one sh1t about the US people. For her it's the ultimate power-trip and she'll do anything to get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 474 Posted November 3, 2016 Of course she accepted money from foreign governments. Errrr...the Clinton Foundation did. Because of all the good work they're doing in Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Turkey, Iraq... Oh wait...it's probably just the oil pipelines. Nevermind. She's a saint and has given dollars towards fighting AIDS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted November 3, 2016 Appreciate the candid responses. My curiosity is "Did she accept money from foreign people"? IE...was she bought to sway opinion on foreign affairs? I agree with your sentiment that to get to the WH you gotta make deals. That alone makes you dirty. I just happen to believe she's shameless and ultra-crooked. Believe me, I don't want Trump to be our POTUS. I'd rather have Rand Paul by a mile. Hell I'd take Ted Cruz over Trump. But I don't think Clinton honestly gives one sh1t about the US people. For her it's the ultimate power-trip and she'll do anything to get it. She's shameless, but not ultra-crooked. Maybe just uber-crooked. I have two things that reassure me. The first you'll disagree with, based on your belief that the Second Amendment is under fire, and that's that the Supreme court will not go to a far right wing majority. If she accomplishes nothing but getting two justices on the court, I'm happy with her. Second, there's no way she gets a second term, and Kasich has four years to make his case that he's the most qualified candidate in a generation for the job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 474 Posted November 3, 2016 Second, there's no way she gets a second term, and Kasich has four years to make his case that he's the most qualified candidate in a generation for the job. I can assure you and everyone else, if she wins this election, she's in the White House for 8 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted November 3, 2016 I can assure you and everyone else, if she wins this election, she's in the White House for 8 years. Then four justices on the court! I hope that either Trump or Hillary is a one term president. Like a four year enema. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted November 3, 2016 cause while he has done all those things allegedly in his private life, Hillary has done them all while part of the Govt also Scotus Hillary has raped kids and ogled her daughter? The only reason he hasnt done it while part of the government is because we haven't been dumb enough to elect him. And i wouldn't trust either of them with scotus. Wont like many of her choices...and he is a clueless idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted November 3, 2016 She's shameless, but not ultra-crooked. Maybe just uber-crooked. I have two things that reassure me. The first you'll disagree with, based on your belief that the Second Amendment is under fire, and that's that the Supreme court will not go to a far right wing majority. If she accomplishes nothing but getting two justices on the court, I'm happy with her. Second, there's no way she gets a second term, and Kasich has four years to make his case that he's the most qualified candidate in a generation for the job. I believe that IF she wanted AND believed she could get it, she would ban guns entirely except for LE and Military. I don't think there's much of an argument there. I could be wrong. I however, don't think it's anywhere near what she really wants to do. Going after guns is political suicide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,541 Posted November 3, 2016 I believe that IF she wanted AND believed she could get it, she would ban guns entirely except for LE and Military. I don't think there's much of an argument there. I could be wrong. I however, don't think it's anywhere near what she really wants to do. Going after guns is political suicide. Well, she said she thinks Australia has a good system. What is their current law regarding gun ownership? Use that as your guide for where she'd like to take us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,429 Posted November 4, 2016 he did ? Busy today, missed it. Yeah, you believe this guy? Can't handle a silly message board without running and crying for help. I wonder what the real world is like for a guy like that? Is he all this "triggered" and "safe space" crap I'm hearing about? What a sad little loser Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted November 4, 2016 Appreciate the candid responses. My curiosity is "Did she accept money from foreign people"? IE...was she bought to sway opinion on foreign affairs? I agree with your sentiment that to get to the WH you gotta make deals. That alone makes you dirty. I just happen to believe she's shameless and ultra-crooked. Believe me, I don't want Trump to be our POTUS. I'd rather have Rand Paul by a mile. Hell I'd take Ted Cruz over Trump. But I don't think Clinton honestly gives one sh1t about the US people. For her it's the ultimate power-trip and she'll do anything to get it. I tend to agree. But I also think that is true of trump as well. For him it's an ego thing. I only trust Hilary this far... she will try to build and protect her legacy. I know there will be some shady as fock stuff behind the scenes. But that is true with either I'm afraid. There simply isn't a single shred of integrity in either major party candidate. Remember when you were a kid and people said "you could be president someday?" Now, it's like "I hope you are too good to ever be president." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted November 4, 2016 Looks like Podesta was into some weird sh!t...I cant embed from my phone https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15893 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 4, 2016 WTF is that a new person heard from, welcome back Fireballer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,429 Posted November 4, 2016 My god. These people are truly sick and have to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted November 4, 2016 Then four justices on the court! The ONLY thing that doesn't scare me about Hillary. She's a Republican at heart so no more completely unqualified and untalented Sotomayors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted November 4, 2016 I believe that IF she wanted AND believed she could get it, she would ban guns entirely except for LE and Military. I don't think there's much of an argument there. I could be wrong. I however, don't think it's anywhere near what she really wants to do. Going after guns is political suicide. Yeah, she's not going to do anything that any other Democrat has done, and that's to try to pass more regulation. She knows it can't be done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joneo 556 Posted November 4, 2016 How is a guy who has lied just as much...if not more...the lesser of two evils? How is a guy who may have raped a 13 year old, who has harassed multiple women, who has ogled 10 year old girls, who has walked in dressing rooms with 15 year old girls, who ogles his own daughter...the lesser of 2 evils? How is a guy that not only doesnt have a clue about the issues, he diesnt even seem inclined to learn...the lesser of two evils? How is a guy facing a case for fraud and racketeering...the lesser of 2 evils? Well Skippy, the answer to all your questions is easy: Trump is the lesser of 2 evils because the Democrats ran the only person who is a worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thornton Melon 620 Posted November 4, 2016 How is a guy who has lied just as much...if not more...the lesser of two evils? How is a guy who may have raped a 13 year old, who has harassed multiple women, who has ogled 10 year old girls, who has walked in dressing rooms with 15 year old girls, who ogles his own daughter...the lesser of 2 evils? How is a guy that not only doesnt have a clue about the issues, he diesnt even seem inclined to learn...the lesser of two evils? How is a guy facing a case for fraud and racketeering...the lesser of 2 evils? Because he's not a Democrat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,586 Posted November 4, 2016 Because he's not Hillary Democrat Clinton. mmhmm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted November 4, 2016 mmhmm True...he is worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLS 314 Posted November 4, 2016 True...he is worse. Doubted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted November 5, 2016 WTF is this one all about? https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46229 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 5, 2016 I have no idea what it is, but it describes Hillary/Bill pretty well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted November 5, 2016 WTF is this one all about? https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46229 Apparently a Geek somehow got John Podesta's email Judging by the degree of unintelligibility I would guess drobeski. But the excessive fixation on socialism screams Phurfur Share this post Link to post Share on other sites