Frozenbeernuts 1,653 Posted September 30, 2018 All the haters watching? I admit that I freaked a little, but I think his mistakes were more because of his coach. They need to keep giving him options downfield. Great to see him succeed in this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,562 Posted September 30, 2018 Not watching but I saw 5 TRs in the first half, jeez that crazy good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Cubs 133 Posted September 30, 2018 5 TDs and the 1st half is not lover Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvarr 13 Posted September 30, 2018 Counter to Goff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted September 30, 2018 Best QB game in nfl history so far? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,653 Posted September 30, 2018 I'm just pissed that I Benched Trubisky for Goff! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobSanders_33 127 Posted September 30, 2018 How many geniuses on this board have Tribs & Goff going for them in 2Qb leagues? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 571 Posted September 30, 2018 Guy in my league does, thankfully not against me. Tampa stinks so I wouldn't be too excited Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpenceToons 70 Posted September 30, 2018 I admit that I freaked a little, but I think his mistakes were more because of his coach. Â I think if we rewound the tape, we'd see that you were laying it on him for being flustered or indecisive or whatever. And it's this coach that's put him in this position to be shooting the lights out today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,653 Posted September 30, 2018 Â I think if we rewound the tape, we'd see that you were laying it on him for being flustered or indecisive or whatever. And it's this coach that's put him in this position to be shooting the lights out today. Oh yeah. He made mistakes and I dont mean to take them back, but people thought he was a bust. The coach does need to put him in a position to make the plays, but he can also hold him back, which is what happened the first two weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,653 Posted September 30, 2018 How many geniuses on this board have Tribs & Goff going for them in 2Qb leagues? I have both in one league, but it's not a 2 qb league Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted September 30, 2018 Mitch on my bench. Mahomes tomorrow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUsualSuspect 207 Posted October 1, 2018 I have both in one league, but it's not a 2 qb league Youre amazing man. Its like you never make the wrong decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,653 Posted October 1, 2018 Youre amazing man. Its like you never make the wrong decision. I make them all the time. I sat Robert Woods for Antonio Callaway. I was going with a gut instinct and was wrong. I also sat Gabriel for Mccoy. I drafted Fournette 5th overall over Gordon and Kamara. That one really stings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,579 Posted October 1, 2018 bears fans are cute Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoOnAtIk 75 Posted October 1, 2018 How many geniuses on this board have Tribs & Goff going for them in 2Qb leagues? I do but only because Alex Smith on bye and Bortles stunk it up last week. Wasnt starting Trubisky with any kind of confidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 405 Posted October 1, 2018 My Tar Heel boy is for real! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted October 1, 2018 i don't want to chase points...but man, that's a LOT of points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 571 Posted October 1, 2018 Tampa pass defense is a train wreck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,202 Posted October 1, 2018 Mitch Trubisky has 15 career TD's in 16 games... 6 of those TD's came yesterday. That should tell you more about Tampa's defense than Mitch Trubisky. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted October 1, 2018 Mitch Trubisky has 15 career TD's in 16 games... 6 of those TD's came yesterday. That should tell you more about Tampa's defense than Mitch Trubisky. He's a 2nd yr QB. It's not unheard of for those to make the leap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,883 Posted October 1, 2018 Mitch Trubisky has 15 career TD's in 16 games... 6 of those TD's came yesterday. That should tell you more about Tampa's defense than Mitch Trubisky. TB gave up 7 total passing TDs through the 3 games prior to this one. And that included Rothlisberger and Brees. Trubisky nearly matched that in 1 game. I'm not saying their defense is all that good, but have you seen some of the scores this week? Â Rams give up 31 Vikings give up 38 Bengals 36 Falcons 37 Texans 34 Colts 37 Dolphins 38 Jets 31 Browns 45 Raiders 42 Giants 33 49ers 29 Chargers 27 Oh, and the Bears? 10 This is the state of the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 571 Posted October 1, 2018 Sure and maybe that's what happens, but I think his point is the only good game he's had was yesterday against a near-historically bad pass defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,883 Posted October 1, 2018 Sure and maybe that's what happens, but I think his point is the only good game he's had was yesterday against a near-historically bad pass defense. The guy is taking steps forward. He made only one bad decision the whole game. That's what the Bears coaching staff is looking for out of him. He was probably the least experienced QB coming out of college ever. He had a terrible coach last year and is learning a completely new system this year. Â Sure, he has to show he can keep it up, but what is the point of crawling out of the woodwork after he has a tremendous game and saying it's not because of him that the Bears did well. Last I checked, Tampa came into this game 2-1. Â Go Bears! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 571 Posted October 1, 2018 If the Bears D keeps up what they are doing, they won't even need mitchy to be great just efficient, which he hasn't been until yesterday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,653 Posted October 2, 2018 I just watched the highlights of Trubisky in the NFL app. Holy shlt, this dude has some unreal talent. He isn't perfect yet for a whole game, but damn did his TD passes look perfect. I was feeling down about going after him instead of Mahomes in dynasty. Remember when all those bad training camp reports were hitting on Trubs and Mahomes??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,202 Posted October 2, 2018 He's a 2nd yr QB. It's not unheard of for those to make the leap. Â I'll agree with you if you can name 1 other QB in NFL history who had a 16 game stretch where 40% of his total TD count came in one of those 16 games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 496 Posted October 2, 2018 I see alot of Rick Mirer in him. But that's just my own personal opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,883 Posted October 2, 2018 For young QBs in a new sytem it's not about the TDs right off the bat. Even his coach said that. It's about them getting comfortable and learning the system so they can then use their talents to execute once they are up to speed. Â Elway in his first 11 games 7 TDs and 14 INTs Steve Young in his first 19 games had 11 TDs and 21 INTs Drew Brees in his first 16 games had 17 TDs and 16 INTs Brees' 2nd year he had 11TDs and 15 INTs in 11 games. Brees in his 3rd year he jumped to 27 and 7 and never looked back. Â These are all bad numbers from some pretty good QBs at he start of their careers. Â And you make it sound like since Trubisky got 6 TDs in one game that it's a bad thing. He did what you want a young QB to do and flash some of what his skills are at times. Trubisky has the least experience coming out of college at the QB position than just about any QB drafted any year. The Bears new this and are willing to take their time with him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 571 Posted October 2, 2018 Trubisky is like the bronze medal at the Olympics. It's nice but not anywhere as good as silver and gold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,653 Posted October 2, 2018 Trubisky is like the bronze medal at the Olympics. It's nice but not anywhere as good as silver and gold. Until Trubisky becomes consistent and owns the NFC North for a decade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 571 Posted October 2, 2018 As a Bears fan you wouldn't trade him for mahomes or Watson? Bears D will be a much bigger factor than mitchy will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,202 Posted October 2, 2018 For young QBs in a new sytem it's not about the TDs right off the bat. Even his coach said that. It's about them getting comfortable and learning the system so they can then use their talents to execute once they are up to speed. Â Elway in his first 11 games 7 TDs and 14 INTs Steve Young in his first 19 games had 11 TDs and 21 INTs Drew Brees in his first 16 games had 17 TDs and 16 INTs Brees' 2nd year he had 11TDs and 15 INTs in 11 games. Brees in his 3rd year he jumped to 27 and 7 and never looked back. Â These are all bad numbers from some pretty good QBs at he start of their careers. Â And you make it sound like since Trubisky got 6 TDs in one game that it's a bad thing. He did what you want a young QB to do and flash some of what his skills are at times. Trubisky has the least experience coming out of college at the QB position than just about any QB drafted any year. The Bears new this and are willing to take their time with him. Â If you're responding to me, you've clearly missed my point. My point wasn't that Trubisky is a bust or a bum who got lucky. My point was that his 6 TD game was more of an indictment of Tampa's terrible pass defense (that you know, ranked 32nd in the NFL before that game even started), than it was on Trubisky's progression as a QB. Also, to address your earlier comment, the only reason the Bucs gave up "only" 7 passing TD's in the first 3 games, was because they gave up 4 rushing TD's as well. Teams who are ranked 32nd in points against find many ways to give up points... not just in through the air. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,202 Posted October 2, 2018 As a Bears fan you wouldn't trade him for mahomes or Watson? Bears D will be a much bigger factor than mitchy will.  Here is a list of all the QB's taken in the first 2 rounds since the 2015 draft. If I had to rank them, I think I'd have Trubisky rated higher than the guys I've emboldened.  Baker Mayfield Sam Darnold Josh Allen Josh Rosen Lamar Jackson Patrick Mahomes Deshaun Watson DeShone Kizer Jared Goff Carson Wentz Paxton Lynch Christian Hackenberg Jameis Winston Marcus Mariota   That doesn't mean my mind couldn't be changed. Just how I see them currently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 571 Posted October 2, 2018 It's more fitting to compare him to his own draft class, I reckon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,202 Posted October 2, 2018 It's more fitting to compare him to his own draft class, I reckon  Meh. I don't necessarily think so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoBucky1 2 Posted October 2, 2018 The guy wasn't supposed to play last year but was thrown in because Glennon is trash. He had the worst offensive coaching staff as well as garbage for talent around him. His number one WR last year is out of the league this year. He had no chance for success last season. He has all new coaches and talent around him this year but is still extremely inexperienced and we all know time is the only thing that will change that. Hes shown good things and bad things, like all young QBs do. He has 18 total td's and 10 picks. His numbers mirror Goff's at the same time of career, and Goff went through the same crap with terrible coaching his first year. Give it time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,883 Posted October 2, 2018 Â Â That doesn't mean my mind couldn't be changed. Just how I see them currently. Obviously you think he is one the worst QBs taken in the last 3 years. If that's your take, the that's your take. But at this point to say your mind could be changed, well, that's a bit obvious. I mean, if he comes on and becomes a top 5 QB over the next year or two, then what else could be said? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bgard72 10 Posted October 2, 2018 I really like him, but also think he just needs to keep on learning and improving things. I think he'll be a very good QB. However, this Tampa Bay game....I honestly have never seen a worse defense in my life. They seemed lost in the secondary trying to cover and Mitch had all day to throw. So...I take the game with a grain of salt but hope it provides him some confidence going forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites