kilroy69 994 Posted June 14, 2019 They are all done for. Most of them have shot themselves in the foot by being backed into a corner on reperations. Outside of the 13 percent of the us that is black no one supports this really. Biden is going to be the choice and trump is going to shred him like paper. His cancer claim is just dumb and he's a creep. Not one of these people can unseat an incumbent president overseeing a good economy. Keep in mind only 2 incumbent presidents in modern history have lost. It's like the island of misfit presidential candidates. Maybe if you combine them all the Dems have a chance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted June 14, 2019 I would vote for yang and Bernie Anybody else im voting green Unless some crazy legal stuff happens Trump is winning Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted June 14, 2019 Yang is promising X dollars a year for everyone, right? Is this straight across the board or only for folks below a certain income level? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted June 14, 2019 12k a year straight across the board Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted June 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, bandrus1 said: 12k a year straight across the board Really? No stipulations at all? Sh1t. I'll be pulling for him (damn, there I go saying it) to get the nomination then. If a Dem is gonna win I might as well get some straight cash homie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 1,838 Posted June 14, 2019 if everyone ends up with an extra 12k a year, what’s going to stop companies from charging more money, for goods and services, because they know everyone now has an extra $1,000/month? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted June 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, OldMaid said: if everyone ends up with an extra 12k a year, what’s going to stop companies from charging more money, for goods and services, because they know everyone now has an extra $1,000/month? Very good question. I'd be interested to hear how he responds if he is asked that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted June 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, OldMaid said: if everyone ends up with an extra 12k a year, what’s going to stop companies from charging more money, for goods and services, because they know everyone now has an extra $1,000/month? Or cutting pay to the tune of 12k a year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,645 Posted June 14, 2019 Buttgeig is smart, adult and not corrupt. He meets the Dem checkbox by being gay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 518 Posted June 14, 2019 Id go Biden because he is the most moderate. I was hoping he would embrace that but it seems like he is moving left, which is understandable in the primaries. I like Yang but need to know more. I listened to Tulsi Gabbard on the Joe Rogan podcast and liked her as well. Again, need to know more, though. I havent fully educated myself on them all yet. Heres a link to some info on their positions https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2019/jun/13/2020-election-issues-democrats-policies-climate-change-abortion-immigration-healthcare-where-candidates-stand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,659 Posted June 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, wiffleball said: Buttgeig is smart, adult and not corrupt. He meets the Dem checkbox by being gay. He worked for McKinsey. He's corrupt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted June 14, 2019 3 hours ago, DonS said: So are you an anti-snipper or proud member of The Purple Helmet Army? Battlelines are being drawn up. Which side are you on? I am cut, but I chose not to do it to my son, couldn't really see the point (tip) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted June 14, 2019 2 hours ago, OldMaid said: if everyone ends up with an extra 12k a year, what’s going to stop companies from charging more money, for goods and services, because they know everyone now has an extra $1,000/month? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted June 14, 2019 Yang at least seems like a real guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,465 Posted June 14, 2019 Any queer or female candidate should be dismissed immediately. They make our country look weak and we will not be taken seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted June 14, 2019 Just now, bostonlager said: Any queer or female candidate should be dismissed immediately. They make our country look weak and we will not be taken seriously. You're trying too hard 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,465 Posted June 14, 2019 1 minute ago, The Observer said: You're trying too hard It's because I care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,039 Posted June 14, 2019 Really waiting for it to get whittled down some more, but right now the candidates who have I have positive impressions of this early are Pete Buttigieg, Julián Castro, Kamala Harris, John Hickenlooper, Jay Inslee, Tim Ryan and Elizabeth Warren. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted June 14, 2019 9 hours ago, OldMaid said: if everyone ends up with an extra 12k a year, what’s going to stop companies from charging more money, for goods and services, because they know everyone now has an extra $1,000/month? But but but free market! Competition! Blah blah blah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,465 Posted June 14, 2019 9 hours ago, OldMaid said: if everyone ends up with an extra 12k a year, what’s going to stop companies from charging more money, for goods and services, because they know everyone now has an extra $1,000/month? You will also see drug use and overdoses increase sharply because a certain segment of the population is not responsible enough to use it correctly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted June 14, 2019 57 minutes ago, bostonlager said: Any queer or female candidate should be dismissed immediately. They make our country look weak and we will not be taken seriously. Please take this to another thread. We already know how various non-Dem folks feel about Dems. Just like we know how Dem folks feel about Trump. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,465 Posted June 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, DonS said: Please take this to another thread. We already know how various non-Dem folks feel about Dems. Just like we know how Dem folks feel about Trump. Thanks. That was a serious comment. If the democrats want to lose again they will nominate a female or a queer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted June 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, bostonlager said: That was a serious comment. If the democrats want to lose again they will nominate a female or a queer. That may be the case, which is why I stated in OP to get folks thoughts about candidates they like for whatever reason and not just who has best chance to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,091 Posted June 14, 2019 Beto, Bernie, Biden, Warren, Harris are immediate vote for Trump candidates. Wang and Buttigieg I will give strong consideration. I do have some reservations about a small town mayor from a small state running the country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,207 Posted June 14, 2019 11 hours ago, OldMaid said: if everyone ends up with an extra 12k a year, what’s going to stop companies from charging more money, for goods and services, because they know everyone now has an extra $1,000/month? A lot of people don't think of such unintended consequences. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted June 14, 2019 12 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I would only vote for Andrew Yang over Trump, I agree with 20 of his 25 policies he has listed The guy wants to lower the voting age to 16. What a nightmare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted June 14, 2019 16 hours ago, drobeski said: What policies can they/are they running on other than not trump ? Like what legit this will be better for America stuff do they got ? Bump....anyone ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted June 14, 2019 So Yang wants to give everyone $1000 per month. Where is that money coming from? And what are drug addicts going to do with that extra income? Also, where does money come from for these? $1 Billion Local Local Journalism Fund Free Marriage Counseling for All Free Financial Counseling for All Paid Family Leave Increase Assistance for Single Parents Fund Medical Technology Innovation Prosperity Grants On and on... Then in addition: Empower MMA Fighters Support the Dream Act Lower Voting Age to 16 Weird. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted June 14, 2019 Your questions are answered in the interview posted. Do your own work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,659 Posted June 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, sderk said: So Yang wants to give everyone $1000 per month. Where is that money coming from? And what are drug addicts going to do with that extra income? Also, where does money come from for these? $1 Billion Local Local Journalism Fund Free Marriage Counseling for All Free Financial Counseling for All Paid Family Leave Increase Assistance for Single Parents Fund Medical Technology Innovation Prosperity Grants On and on... Then in addition: Empower MMA Fighters Support the Dream Act Weird. Just print it. Or take it from others. But not the donors. Their money is sheltered or off shore. I doubt the SJW's in Hollywood or Silicone valley actually pay much income tax. It's all good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted June 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, sderk said: So Yang wants to give everyone $1000 per month. Where is that money coming from? And what are drug addicts going to do with that extra income? He might actually have a sneaky smart idea. For maybe only a few grand he's counting on Darwinism taking it's course. The junkies will probably end up overdosing and killing themselves so their overall drain on society will be cut short. The result would be a net savings for America. He probably owns stock in the company that manufactures Narcan just to hedge his bets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted June 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, DonS said: He might actually have a sneaky smart idea. For maybe only a few grand he's counting on Darwinism taking it's course. The junkies will probably end up overdosing and killing themselves so their overall drain on society will be cut short. The result would be a net savings for America. He probably owns stock in the company that manufactures Narcan just to hedge his bets. He might also be thinking, if he offers up free stuff, people will vote for him. And if he makes 16 year olds able to vote, what high school kid doesn't want free stuff? Especially if it sparkles and has a bow on it with a $ sign in front of it. Reelection confirmed in 2024. You see those guys going onto college campuses and asking the students why they want to vote for Hillary. Then the students stutter their answers to the point of embarrassment. Can you imagine what those interviews would look like if they were to interview 16 year olds and ask why they want to vote for someone like Harris? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted June 14, 2019 I wouldn't waste too much time worrying about Mr Free Money. He's not even making a blip on the radar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,659 Posted June 14, 2019 You won't here many democrats scoff at this guys lunacy. The worst they will say is that they will consider it. Can't upset the children. The democrats really are the me too party. Batshit crazy idea thrown out there? 23 of them, me too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted June 14, 2019 I think Biden remains the best prospect they have, and the most well-equipped to take on Trump. The rest are not much to speak of, how is it that they are fielding such a weak assortment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted June 14, 2019 3 hours ago, sderk said: The guy wants to lower the voting age to 16. What a nightmare. And that’s something that is not in the presidents power Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted June 14, 2019 Also you do understand that yangs policy essentially eliminates welfare including for illegals which he has specifically stated. Also eliminates food stamps and 127 other govt welfare programs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted June 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Ray Lewis's Limo Driver said: I think Biden remains the best prospect they have, and the most well-equipped to take on Trump. The rest are not much to speak of, how is it that they are fielding such a weak assortment? Maybe they anticipate a big downfall in economy and more racial / gender unrest and don't want to win in 2020 so as to make Trump look bad? Although, if they do lose in 2020, there biggest nightmare would be that Trump and the economy keep working hard for the American people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,904 Posted June 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Also you do understand that yangs policy essentially eliminates welfare including for illegals which he has specifically stated. Also eliminates food stamps and 127 other govt welfare programs Based on the little bit I listened to of the Joe Rogan interview, the $1k per month would decrease if they're receiving other government handouts, but it wouldn't eliminate any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,592 Posted June 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Gladiators said: Based on the little bit I listened to of the Joe Rogan interview, the $1k per month would decrease if they're receiving other government handouts, but it wouldn't eliminate any. from my understanding if they are on Welfare, they can stay on the hassles of welfare, but once they opt into the new program, they wouldnt be able to get any other govt handouts I haven't finished Rogan's yet, but watched Shapiro and Rubin, what I understood of alot of it, is that the 1000, for example a lot of people are getting 700$ a month in handouts so essentially these people would only get an additional 300, but when you factor in the money spent on administrative fees its a net zero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites