Official President Trump Impeachment Inquiry Thread

[Voltaire 5,322]

9 hours ago, MDC said:

Many Geeks routinely wish for former presidents and presidential candidates to be jailed or hung for treason. Being impeached seems relatively tame by comparison.

There were a lot of “lock her up” chants during and after the election at Trump rallies. Although, I don’t recall any Geeks advocating for Hillary to be arrested, I think the chances are pretty good someone went there.

The transition from Washington to Adams was an easy one between allies but Adams and Jefferson were brutal to each other (they made friends in old age). Adams did nothing to Jefferson. He lost a bitter election to a detestable rival and handed over the keys and walked away. Meanwhile Jefferson didn’t put him in jail. 

We’ve had old presidents hand over power to bitter rivals ever since. We’ve had new ones not put old ones in jail. That’s how third world sh1ttholes operate. And it’s a big reason why Hillary is a free woman. The loser hands over power and walks away. The winner leaves the loser alone.

Break that tradition and Shiite hits the fan.

 

 

[IGotWorms 4,059]

4 hours ago, Intense Observer said:

They still don't understand that the actual transcript was released and shows no quid pro quo.

Schittforbrains and the lawfare mafia never dreamed that the transcript would be released and they could claim anything they wanted with the CIAWB Complaint. The media would provide cover and the useful idiots would take it as gospel.

Then Trump released the transcript.

They have been scrambling like rats ever since. Fabricating a second WB. Fabricating a conversation between Trump and Ukraine that never actually happened. Sending their henchmen back to Ukraine to try and get people to change their statements. Releasing selective texts to support their false narrative. Withholding testimony that supports the transcript and no qpq.

They are focked and they know it.

 

Can you even comprehend  how utterly insane you are?

[Voltaire 5,322]

I’ve been trying to figure out if I am less outraged by a president getting a blowjob or one trying to investigate brazen corruption. When I think of it in those terms, it seems clear that the guy cheating on his wife with an intern is worse.

At the time when Bill was getting impeached, I was unmarried and never had young women working for me, so I was probably more forgiving than I should have been. I still wouldn’t come close to impeaching though. That’s between him, Hillary, and Monica, it’s none of my business.

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Really, I still think presenting false information to lie us into war is the worst offense but I realize I’m the only one.

[drobeski 3,061]

4 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Can you even comprehend  how utterly insane you are?

Can you refute any of his post ? All of this has happened. Where is the focking whistle blower you and so many others put so much value into ? Why doesn't he matter anymore ? 

You know why and living in the dream land isnt going to change it. 

 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1187556774922145792

Let's go back to near the beginning of what Worms, Newbs, MDC, Honcho and possibly Hawkeye call the right wing conspiracy theory that the FBI/CIA was out to get Trump.

It has finally come to light that Lisa Page edited the 302s for Flynn's interview. She worked with McCabe, Strzok, Priestrap, Brennan, Clapper and Comey to frame Flynn. 

[Strike 5,606]

5 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Can you even comprehend  how utterly insane you are?

Can you even comprehend how utterly retarded you are?

[Hawkeye21 2,404]

1 hour ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1187556774922145792

Let's go back to near the beginning of what Worms, Newbs, MDC, Honcho and possibly Hawkeye call the right wing conspiracy theory that the FBI/CIA was out to get Trump.

It has finally come to light that Lisa Page edited the 302s for Flynn's interview. She worked with McCabe, Strzok, Priestrap, Brennan, Clapper and Comey to frame Flynn. 

I don't believe I was involved.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don't believe I was involved.

Do you believe there was a plot to stop Trump being elected then remove Trump from office or is it all just a right wing conspiracy?

[Hawkeye21 2,404]

Just now, Filthy Fernadez said:

Do you believe there was a plot to stop Trump being elected then remove Trump from office or is it all just a right wing conspiracy?

I believe Trump is a terrible President and unfit for the WH.  I don't know about all the rest.  The biggest thing I care about is finding someone better to replace him.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

10 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I believe Trump is a terrible President and unfit for the WH.  I don't know about all the rest.  The biggest thing I care about is finding someone better to replace him.

So read up on it. Or are you admitting you're willfully ignorant of the facts surrounding the efforts to remove Trump?

Perhaps your belief that Trump is a horrible President and unfit for office is based upon nothing more than what you've been told by the same folks that want to frame him.

[Hawkeye21 2,404]

1 minute ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

So read up on it. Or are you admitting you're willfully ignorant of the facts surrounding the efforts to remove Trump?

Perhaps your belief that Trump is a horrible President and unfit for office is based upon nothing more than what you've been told by the same folks that want to frame him.

I don't doubt there are efforts to remove Trump.  Wouldn't surprise me, really.  I've disliked Trump for a very long time, well before he ran for President.  I don't like the kind of person he is and I don't like how he does business.

[Gladiators 1,995]

19 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I believe Trump is a terrible President and unfit for the WH.  I don't know about all the rest.  The biggest thing I care about is finding someone better to replace him.

I agree with most of your post (except for the bolded).  Trump is doing so much winning, he should be President of Earth.  

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

So it's now proven Flynn was framed and Mueller surpressed this exculpatory evidence to obtain his guilty plea. The day after Flynn pleads guilty, Judge Contreras is removed from case and Brady-law judge Sullivan is given this case.

That confirms not only was Special Counsel was in on it but there was a sting operation to catch them red handed.

[Hawkeye21 2,404]

1 minute ago, Gladiators said:

I agree with most of your post (except for the bolded).  Trump is doing so much winning, he should be President of Earth.  

I disagree but that's fine, I understand.

[MDC 7,514]

I like how the crowd that cries about FBG’s intolerance is the same group that immediately lashes out in spittle spraying retard fury anytime someone criticizes Orange Jesus.  

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don't doubt there are efforts to remove Trump.  Wouldn't surprise me, really.  I've disliked Trump for a very long time, well before he ran for President.  I don't like the kind of person he is and I don't like how he does business.

So how would you feel if a prosecutor didn't like you and tried to frame you? How would you feel if a President you did like was being framed?

FFS do you even know how focked up that mentality is? You don't like him so you don't care if the govt tries a coup to remove him?!

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

I like how the crowd that cries about FBG’s intolerance is the same group that immediately lashes out in spittle spraying retard fury anytime someone criticizes Orange Jesus.  

Criticism is fine; a coup is not.

[Hawkeye21 2,404]

Just now, Filthy Fernadez said:

So how would you feel if a prosecutor didn't like you and tried to frame you? How would you feel if a President you did like was being framed?

FFS do you even know how focked up that mentality is? You don't like him so you don't care if the govt tries a coup to remove him?!

I'm not sold on the opinion that he hasn't done anything wrong though.  He's done little in his life to make be think he's innocent of any wrongdoings as President.  I think he has violated the emoluments clause and that he's abused his power and therefore I think an investigation is warranted.

[sderk 1,040]

6 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I'm not sold on the opinion that he hasn't done anything wrong though.  He's done little in his life to make be think he's innocent of any wrongdoings as President.  I think he has violated the emoluments clause and that he's abused his power and therefore I think an investigation is warranted.

Pretty much you are repeating here the left's mantra when talking about people they don't like.

Guilty until proven innocent.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

10 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I'm not sold on the opinion that he hasn't done anything wrong though.  He's done little in his life to make be think he's innocent of any wrongdoings as President.  I think he has violated the emoluments clause and that he's abused his power and therefore I think an investigation is warranted.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/10/emoluments-clause-case-trump-dismissed/

Transcript was released and all those with firsthand knowledge assert there was no quid pro quo. The Ukrainians reopened investigation months before the call. 

What else you got?

[Hawkeye21 2,404]

6 minutes ago, sderk said:

Pretty much you are repeating here the left's mantra when talking about people they don't like.

Guilty until proven innocent.

Everyone forms opinions before knowing all the facts.  There is not political party for that, it's just human nature.  I agree that some want to take action before anything is proven but that's not me.

I don't think I have once called for Trump to be impeached or removed from office on here or FBG yet.  I don't think it's going to happen either.  I'm fine with letting him finish his term and being voted out.  If concrete evidence is provided at some point then I will say it.

[Voltaire 5,322]

34 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

So read up on it.

For some people that’s torture. Personally, I have already had way more than enough of it and just want it over with.

Calgon, take me away.

[Hawkeye21 2,404]

11 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/10/emoluments-clause-case-trump-dismissed/

Transcript was released and all those with firsthand knowledge assert there was no quid pro quo. The Ukrainians reopened investigation months before the call. 

What else you got?

My concern has more to do with his properties that he owns and all the conflicts of interest with himself and his family.

[RLLD 4,256]

10 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

My concern has more to do with his properties that he owns and all the conflicts of interest with himself and his family.

And I think you touch on what might be the most key point.

I think the Dem's tried this and gave up on it too easy, I think this has teeth, but the Dem's are too focused on getting rid of him, and are missing the real opportunities that are right in front of them....and this one is real IMHO

[Cdub100 3,936]

On 10/22/2019 at 1:48 PM, drobeski said:

In a CEM class in Michigan,  havent got to pay attention much. How did the vote go ?

Where in Michigan?

[Hawkeye21 2,404]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

And I think you touch on what might be the most key point.

I think the Dem's tried this and gave up on it too easy, I think this has teeth, but the Dem's are too focused on getting rid of him, and are missing the real opportunities that are right in front of them....and this one is real IMHO

That's because the Dem's are morons and can't get out of their own way.

[lickin_starfish 1,942]

19 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

My concern has more to do with his properties that he owns and all the conflicts of interest with himself and his family.

Were you concerned with Hussein weaponizing the FBI, CIA, and IRS against his political opponents?

Are you concerned with Joe Biden abusing his power as VP to effect dealings in Ukraine for his benefit?

Are you concerned that Bill and Hillary used their charity as a slush fund, taking millions from foreign governments?

Concerned with Warren lying about her ethnicity to game the system?

Those are all based on fact, your concern with Trump is based on feelings.

[MDC 7,514]

6 minutes ago, RLLD said:

And I think you touch on what might be the most key point.

I think the Dem's tried this and gave up on it too easy, I think this has teeth, but the Dem's are too focused on getting rid of him, and are missing the real opportunities that are right in front of them....and this one is real IMHO

Republicans didn’t care when Trump didn’t release his tax returns or when he said his kids would serve in his administration while managing his foreign businesses on his behalf.

Why would they care now? 

[Hawkeye21 2,404]

Just now, lickin_starfish said:

Were you concerned with Hussein weaponizing the FBI, CIA, and IRS against his political opponents?

Are you concerned with Joe Biden abusing his power as VP to effect dealings in Ukraine for his benefit?

Are you concerned that Bill and Hillary used their charity as a slush fund, taking millions from foreign governments?

Those are all based on fact, your concern with Trump is based on feelings.

It's all a concern, yes.  Why wouldn't I be?  My concerns with Trump are not all based on feelings.  I admit that feelings do get involved but there's more to it than that.

[lickin_starfish 1,942]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

It's all a concern, yes.  Why wouldn't I be?  My concerns with Trump are not all based on feelings.  I admit that feelings do get involved but there's more to it than that.

Innocent until proven guilty in this country, as sad as it makes you feel.

[RLLD 4,256]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

Republicans didn’t care when Trump didn’t release his tax returns or when he said his kids would serve in his administration while managing his foreign businesses on his behalf.

Why would they care now? 

But the Dem's aren't interested in convincing the Republicans, they want to manipulate the people, the ones who vote for Republicans....that is their goal and opportunity.

I think the Dem's can easily sell the idea of conflict of interest to people, I submit that going down that road is the easiest and best way to convince people to dislike Trump and influence Republicans.  Politicians care about one thing.....power, but that power is retained by making voters like them...

I think their strategy went off the rails, and they are missing a golden opportunity.....JMHO

[MDC 7,514]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

But the Dem's aren't interested in convincing the Republicans, they want to manipulate the people, the ones who vote for Republicans....that is their goal and opportunity.

I think the Dem's can easily sell the idea of conflict of interest to people, I submit that going down that road is the easiest and best way to convince people to dislike Trump and influence Republicans.  Politicians care about one thing.....power, but that power is retained by making voters like them...

I think their strategy went off the rails, and they are missing a golden opportunity.....JMHO

We’ve known Trump is as corrupt as they come and a piece of human dogsh1t for 30 years now. Nobody cared in 2016, I don’t see why they’d care today. 

[Hawkeye21 2,404]

Just now, lickin_starfish said:

Innocent until proven guilty in this country, as sad as it makes you feel.

There is nothing wrong with having concerns.  Let's not act like Trump supporters have never made up their mind on other Presidents without them being proven guilty.

I don't know if Trump is actually guilty or not but I have a strong feeling he may be with certain things and I'm entitled to that.

[Mr. Hand 482]

13 hours ago, 12th Man said:

Hawkeye is foolish like Sho but he's not Sho. I beat Sho sill y while he was here. He had me blocked. No way Hawkeye would engage me if h he were a  Sho alias. 

 

I know he isn't Sho, Hawkeye is much smarter. Sho has no grasp of reality and is in full blown TDS.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,518]

9 minutes ago, MDC said:

We’ve known Trump is as corrupt as they come and a piece of human dogsh1t for 30 years now. Nobody cared in 2016, I don’t see why they’d care today. 

Cuck.

[Casual Observer 597]

34 minutes ago, MDC said:

We’ve known Trump is as corrupt as they come and a piece of human dogsh1t for 30 years now. Nobody cared in 2016, I don’t see why they’d care today. 

I haven't known any of that.  The more troubling thing about him is the he was a liberal donor for many years.  They seemed not care as long they were getting his money.  He decides to run for Pres. and now he's the Anti-Christ.

[RLLD 4,256]

32 minutes ago, MDC said:

We’ve known Trump is as corrupt as they come and a piece of human dogsh1t for 30 years now. Nobody cared in 2016, I don’t see why they’d care today. 

I think Trump is likely less corrupt than Mitch McConnell, Burris, Mollohan, or even Pelosi.  But I am on board that he likely has some level of corruption, as have presidents before him.

I hold him more accountable than his predecessors for being rude, unrefined, and less of a liar; not that he lies less, he just sucks at it.....

So if we can agree that being a politician in and of itself equates to a certain level of corruption, I think that is a start.

Now, back to the topic, I think there is a winning strategy to get rid of Trump, and I think the Dem's had it, but abandoned it for more juicy stuff.   Either that is true or they think they can manipulate voters to dislike him in other ways. It could be that they know they cannot impeach, so the strategy is still smear him, but in a specific way......not sure.....not sure how smearing him this time will work any better.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

57 minutes ago, RLLD said:

And I think you touch on what might be the most key point.

I think the Dem's tried this and gave up on it too easy, I think this has teeth, but the Dem's are too focused on getting rid of him, and are missing the real opportunities that are right in front of them....and this one is real IMHO

Then you would be wrong. The Dems didn't take that bait.

You've already acknowledged Trump has set the Dems up on other things and this is no different. With unlimited resources (hat tip to Soros a.k.a. Lawfare Group) if they gave up on it, it's because they saw it for what it was; bait.

[MDC 7,514]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think Trump is likely less corrupt than Mitch McConnell, Burris, Mollohan, or even Pelosi.  But I am on board that he likely has some level of corruption, as have presidents before him.

I hold him more accountable than his predecessors for being rude, unrefined, and less of a liar; not that he lies less, he just sucks at it.....

So if we can agree that being a politician in and of itself equates to a certain level of corruption, I think that is a start.

Now, back to the topic, I think there is a winning strategy to get rid of Trump, and I think the Dem's had it, but abandoned it for more juicy stuff.   Either that is true or they think they can manipulate voters to dislike him in other ways. It could be that they know they cannot impeach, so the strategy is still smear him, but in a specific way......not sure.....not sure how smearing him this time will work any better.

What’s the winning strategy? You said they should get on Trump for having conflicts of interest. I pointed out that we’ve known this since 2016 if not longer. 

Dems big issue isn’t Trump it’s that they lack a coherent party platform or quality candidates who can actually win the primary at least.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

47 minutes ago, MDC said:

We’ve known Trump is as corrupt as they come and a piece of human dogsh1t for 30 years now. Nobody cared in 2016, I don’t see why they’d care today. 

He worked for years exposing crime to the FBI and spent the last 4 years being vetted by the world's premier intelligence agencies. They found nothing. NOTHING.

Cleanest POTUS ever.