Coronavirus - Doomsday

[jerryskids 6,798]

Welp, my daughter was tested and officially has the Covid, and I saw her Friday, so I've been exposed.  She has some normal cold symptoms but otherwise isn't bad.  I contacted Mayo, they suggest waiting 5-7 days for testing, so I've got a standing test order and I'll go in later this week.  Took my antioxidants (C, Quercetin, sambucus elderberry (see below)) and Zinc.  Getting lots of Vitamin D doing yardwork today.

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The berries and flowers of elderberry are packed with antioxidants and vitamins that may boost your immune system. They could help tame inflammation, lessen stress, and help protect your heart, too. Some experts recommend elderberry to help prevent and ease cold and flu symptoms.Sep 21, 2020

Ordered some NAC; Walmart claims to have it and that it will be here Friday.  

Not going for the Ivermectin unless I start to sense symptoms.  My PCP is a D.O., I wonder if she would hook me up?  If not if any of you have a way please PM me.  (BTW she is an A- cup but otherwise a cute little spinner).  May also look into monoclonal options to be prepared.

My biggest concern is that Mayo will delay my scan and treatment next week, but I feel like I should be honest with them, and hopefully if I test negative it won't impact anything.

Wish me luck.   

[Strike 5,543]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Welp, my daughter was tested and officially has the Covid, and I saw her Friday, so I've been exposed.  She has some normal cold symptoms but otherwise isn't bad.  I contacted Mayo, they suggest waiting 5-7 days for testing, so I've got a standing test order and I'll go in later this week.  Took my antioxidants (C, Quercetin, sambucus elderberry (see below)) and Zinc.  Getting lots of Vitamin D doing yardwork today.

Ordered some NAC; Walmart claims to have it and that it will be here Friday.  

Not going for the Ivermectin unless I start to sense symptoms.  My PCP is a D.O., I wonder if she would hook me up?  If not if any of you have a way please PM me.  (BTW she is an A- cup but otherwise a cute little spinner).  May also look into monoclonal options to be prepared.

My biggest concern is that Mayo will delay my scan and treatment next week, but I feel like I should be honest with them, and hopefully if I test negative it won't impact anything.

Wish me luck.   

Aren't you vaccinated?

[TimmySmith 2,782]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Welp, my daughter was tested and officially has the Covid, and I saw her Friday, so I've been exposed.  She has some normal cold symptoms but otherwise isn't bad.  I contacted Mayo, they suggest waiting 5-7 days for testing, so I've got a standing test order and I'll go in later this week.  Took my antioxidants (C, Quercetin, sambucus elderberry (see below)) and Zinc.  Getting lots of Vitamin D doing yardwork today.

Ordered some NAC; Walmart claims to have it and that it will be here Friday.  

Not going for the Ivermectin unless I start to sense symptoms.  My PCP is a D.O., I wonder if she would hook me up?  If not if any of you have a way please PM me.  (BTW she is an A- cup but otherwise a cute little spinner).  May also look into monoclonal options to be prepared.

My biggest concern is that Mayo will delay my scan and treatment next week, but I feel like I should be honest with them, and hopefully if I test negative it won't impact anything.

Wish me luck.   

Good luck.  Just so you know, my wife and son had it a few weeks ago.  20 year old son, no problems.  Wife suffered, very much like the flu.  After I brought home Quercetin, NAC, she changed overnight. Should have got it to her sooner, but she was misdiagnosed with a negative test, so she suffered for a week.  I never got it, or I already had it, who knows. 

[TheNewGirl 1,491]

On 10/3/2021 at 7:58 AM, DonS said:

Question regarding blood clots:

so do they just all of a sudden form or do they build up over time?  Curious if this is something that can be detected via CAT scan / ultrasound / whatever before they become large enough to kill. 

I am a two time survivor. 

They build up over time, but I am not sure "how much" time. My first one I had no signs or symptoms until I was in the ER and couldn't breathe, they have no idea here it came from. . My second one I actually had arm swelling, and after a few scans my vascular surgeon mentioned that I had a lot of "collateral" veins in my arm, so it's possible it had been going on for a long time, but I was asymptomatic until then (thoracic outlet syndrome). 

If you have symptoms they can see them in your arms/legs via ultrasound. CT scan to see them in your lungs. The symptoms can occasionally mimic other issues, so many people think its just a pulled muscle in their leg or arm or something. 30% of people who have clots and don't get treatment die from them. 

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

19 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Welp, my daughter was tested and officially has the Covid, and I saw her Friday, so I've been exposed.  She has some normal cold symptoms but otherwise isn't bad.  I contacted Mayo, they suggest waiting 5-7 days for testing, so I've got a standing test order and I'll go in later this week.  Took my antioxidants (C, Quercetin, sambucus elderberry (see below)) and Zinc.  Getting lots of Vitamin D doing yardwork today.

Ordered some NAC; Walmart claims to have it and that it will be here Friday.  

Not going for the Ivermectin unless I start to sense symptoms.  My PCP is a D.O., I wonder if she would hook me up?  If not if any of you have a way please PM me.  (BTW she is an A- cup but otherwise a cute little spinner).  May also look into monoclonal options to be prepared.

My biggest concern is that Mayo will delay my scan and treatment next week, but I feel like I should be honest with them, and hopefully if I test negative it won't impact anything.

Wish me luck.   

 

I would suggest to skip the Ivermectin and get regeneron antibody treatment as soon you test positive. Try to find someone to prescribe it to you.

 

You need to start the treatment while your O2 is still in the 90's, so you cannot wait on taking it.

 

Edit: Someplaces even give antibody treatment as a prophylaxis, you may want to look into what your state does. Maybe your oncologist can even help you get it if you have been exposed.

It is FDA approved for this function.

https://www.healio.com/news/infectious-disease/20210730/fda-authorizes-regeneron-antibody-cocktail-for-postexposure-prophylaxis-of-covid19

[Casual Observer 597]

17 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Welp, my daughter was tested and officially has the Covid, and I saw her Friday, so I've been exposed.  She has some normal cold symptoms but otherwise isn't bad.  I contacted Mayo, they suggest waiting 5-7 days for testing, so I've got a standing test order and I'll go in later this week.  Took my antioxidants (C, Quercetin, sambucus elderberry (see below)) and Zinc.  Getting lots of Vitamin D doing yardwork today.

Ordered some NAC; Walmart claims to have it and that it will be here Friday.  

Not going for the Ivermectin unless I start to sense symptoms.  My PCP is a D.O., I wonder if she would hook me up?  If not if any of you have a way please PM me.  (BTW she is an A- cup but otherwise a cute little spinner).  May also look into monoclonal options to be prepared.

My biggest concern is that Mayo will delay my scan and treatment next week, but I feel like I should be honest with them, and hopefully if I test negative it won't impact anything.

Wish me luck.   

You're not gay and scared, are you?

[Casual Observer 597]

6 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

I am a two time survivor. 

They build up over time, but I am not sure "how much" time. My first one I had no signs or symptoms until I was in the ER and couldn't breathe, they have no idea here it came from. . My second one I actually had arm swelling, and after a few scans my vascular surgeon mentioned that I had a lot of "collateral" veins in my arm, so it's possible it had been going on for a long time, but I was asymptomatic until then (thoracic outlet syndrome). 

If you have symptoms they can see them in your arms/legs via ultrasound. CT scan to see them in your lungs. The symptoms can occasionally mimic other issues, so many people think its just a pulled muscle in their leg or arm or something. 30% of people who have clots and don't get treatment die from them. 

Are you saying that you had venous thoracic outlet syndrome, i.e., a blood clot in the subclavian vein?

[Gladiators 1,987]

On 10/3/2021 at 9:58 AM, DonS said:

Question regarding blood clots:

so do they just all of a sudden form or do they build up over time?  Curious if this is something that can be detected via CAT scan / ultrasound / whatever before they become large enough to kill. 

Good question.  I think they build up over time.  Not sure what sort of timeline you're thinking, but I believe it can be days, which is why the hospital puts some sort of compression device on people's legs who are immobile.  My brother in law was in the hospital for a week when he was 17.  I don't know if they had the compression device on his legs for his stay, but the day after he went home, he had a massive pulmonary embolism.  5 years later and he still can't walk, talk or eat on his own.  Scary stuff...

[Cdub100 3,908]

33 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Welp, my daughter was tested and officially has the Covid, and I saw her Friday, so I've been exposed.  She has some normal cold symptoms but otherwise isn't bad.  I contacted Mayo, they suggest waiting 5-7 days for testing, so I've got a standing test order and I'll go in later this week.  Took my antioxidants (C, Quercetin, sambucus elderberry (see below)) and Zinc.  Getting lots of Vitamin D doing yardwork today.

Ordered some NAC; Walmart claims to have it and that it will be here Friday.  

Not going for the Ivermectin unless I start to sense symptoms.  My PCP is a D.O., I wonder if she would hook me up?  If not if any of you have a way please PM me.  (BTW she is an A- cup but otherwise a cute little spinner).  May also look into monoclonal options to be prepared.

My biggest concern is that Mayo will delay my scan and treatment next week, but I feel like I should be honest with them, and hopefully if I test negative it won't impact anything.

Wish me luck.   

Says you can't get messages.

[TimHauck 2,876]

36 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Welp, my daughter was tested and officially has the Covid, and I saw her Friday, so I've been exposed.  She has some normal cold symptoms but otherwise isn't bad.  I contacted Mayo, they suggest waiting 5-7 days for testing, so I've got a standing test order and I'll go in later this week.  Took my antioxidants (C, Quercetin, sambucus elderberry (see below)) and Zinc.  Getting lots of Vitamin D doing yardwork today.

Ordered some NAC; Walmart claims to have it and that it will be here Friday.  

Not going for the Ivermectin unless I start to sense symptoms.  My PCP is a D.O., I wonder if she would hook me up?  If not if any of you have a way please PM me.  (BTW she is an A- cup but otherwise a cute little spinner).  May also look into monoclonal options to be prepared.

My biggest concern is that Mayo will delay my scan and treatment next week, but I feel like I should be honest with them, and hopefully if I test negative it won't impact anything.

Wish me luck.   

Good luck.   So what is NAC exactly?

[TheNewGirl 1,491]

25 minutes ago, Casual Observer said:

Are you saying that you had venous thoracic outlet syndrome, i.e., a blood clot in the subclavian vein?

Yes. 

I had first rib resection June 2020. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

jerry, I understand you're dealing with cancer at the moment and your immune system is compromised.  I wish you good luck in staying healthy, but please consult with your doctor before taking ivermectin or anything else that could potentially be dangerous to you given your diagnosis and situation.

[Casual Observer 597]

14 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Yes. 

I had first rib resection June 2020. 

Interesting.  So did I (same month and year).

[TheNewGirl 1,491]

1 minute ago, Casual Observer said:

Interesting.  So did I (same month and year).

WOW! That is interesting. 

[Casual Observer 597]

5 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

WOW! That is interesting. 

It's a rare occurrence and when I describe what happened and the corrective surgeries, there is an undeniable look of horror on people's faces.

[DonS 3,292]

55 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

I am a two time survivor. 

They build up over time, but I am not sure "how much" time. My first one I had no signs or symptoms until I was in the ER and couldn't breathe, they have no idea here it came from. . My second one I actually had arm swelling, and after a few scans my vascular surgeon mentioned that I had a lot of "collateral" veins in my arm, so it's possible it had been going on for a long time, but I was asymptomatic until then (thoracic outlet syndrome). 

If you have symptoms they can see them in your arms/legs via ultrasound. CT scan to see them in your lungs. The symptoms can occasionally mimic other issues, so many people think its just a pulled muscle in their leg or arm or something. 30% of people who have clots and don't get treatment die from them. 

 

46 minutes ago, Gladiators said:

Good question.  I think they build up over time.  Not sure what sort of timeline you're thinking, but I believe it can be days, which is why the hospital puts some sort of compression device on people's legs who are immobile.  My brother in law was in the hospital for a week when he was 17.  I don't know if they had the compression device on his legs for his stay, but the day after he went home, he had a massive pulmonary embolism.  5 years later and he still can't walk, talk or eat on his own.  Scary stuff...

Thanks for the info both of you.  Scary sh1t to be sure.  Hopefully I won't get them since I received the red headed stepchild J&J shot.  If they don't form until next year then maybe my cancer follow up CT scan will show if any are lurking.

 

[TheNewGirl 1,491]

7 minutes ago, Casual Observer said:

It's a rare occurrence and when I describe what happened and the corrective surgeries, there is an undeniable look of horror on people's faces.

Exactly. 

It is very rare. I think that's why when I saw my arm swelling, I kind of knew that it would be more than just "Here, take these blood thinners and go home." 

[Casual Observer 597]

2 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Exactly. 

It is very rare. I think that's why when I saw my arm swelling, I kind of knew that it would be more than just "Here, take these blood thinners and go home." 

Yes.  At first I thought I tore my tricep on that side (I was bench pressing when it happened).

[Thornton Melon 620]

10 minutes ago, DonS said:

 

Thanks for the info both of you.  Scary sh1t to be sure.  Hopefully I won't get them since I received the red headed stepchild J&J shot.  If they don't form until next year then maybe my cancer follow up CT scan will show if any are lurking.

 

The J & J shot is the one more prone to blood clots. Good luck, Don 

[DonS 3,292]

5 minutes ago, Thornton Melon said:

The J & J shot is the one more prone to blood clots. Good luck, Don 

Yep, that's why I asked. 

I should've said "even though" I got the J&J. 

 

[Thornton Melon 620]

14 minutes ago, DonS said:

Yep, that's why I asked. 

I should've said "even though" I got the J&J. 

 

Well, the good news is I think it's predominantly women that get the blood clots, so you should be fine....unless you identify as one 

[jerryskids 6,798]

1 hour ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

I would suggest to skip the Ivermectin and get regeneron antibody treatment as soon you test positive. Try to find someone to prescribe it to you.

 

You need to start the treatment while your O2 is still in the 90's, so you cannot wait on taking it.

 

Edit: Someplaces even give antibody treatment as a prophylaxis, you may want to look into what your state does. Maybe your oncologist can even help you get it if you have been exposed.

It is FDA approved for this function.

https://www.healio.com/news/infectious-disease/20210730/fda-authorizes-regeneron-antibody-cocktail-for-postexposure-prophylaxis-of-covid19

This is great info, thanks!   

[DonS 3,292]

5 minutes ago, Thornton Melon said:

Well, the good news is I think it's predominantly women that get the blood clots, so you should be fine....unless you identify as one 

This is just one more example of straight white men in Big Pharma keeping the disadvantaged down! 

 

[jerryskids 6,798]

1 hour ago, Cdub100 said:

Says you can't get messages.

Fixed, deleted a bunch to clean it out.

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Good luck.   So what is NAC exactly?

n-acetyl-cysteine. 

55 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

jerry, I understand you're dealing with cancer at the moment and your immune system is compromised.  I wish you good luck in staying healthy, but please consult with your doctor before taking ivermectin or anything else that could potentially be dangerous to you given your diagnosis and situation.

I will. 

[TimHauck 2,876]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

 

n-acetyl-cysteine. 

 

What does it do?

[jerryskids 6,798]

39 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

What does it do?

It helps to build glutathione, one of the body's most important antioxidants.

[Fireballer 2,642]

 

[jerryskids 6,798]

China PCR test orders soared before first confirmed COVID case

Report on government contracts show surges in Wuhan-area purchases from May 2019

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TOKYO -- Purchases of PCR tests in China's Hubei Province surged months before the first official reports of a novel coronavirus case there, according to a report by Australia-based company Internet 2.0.

About 67.4 million yuan ($10.5 million at current rates) was spent on PCR tests in Hubei during 2019, nearly double the 2018 total, with the upswing starting in May, according to the report.

Internet 2.0 collected and analyzed data from a website that aggregates information on public procurement bids in China. The analysis team consists of former officials from intelligence agencies in the U.S., the U.K., Australia, and other countries.

The report casts further doubt on China's official line about the origins of the virus, a topic that has fueled tensions between Beijing and Washington.

PCR, or polymerase chain reaction, tests are used to detect the presence of a particular genetic sequence in a sample, and they have applications beyond COVID-19 testing. But the report alleges the unusual uptick likely signals awareness of a new disease spreading in and around Wuhan, the capital of Hubei Province.

Orders doubled from universities, jumped fivefold from the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention and surged tenfold from animal testing bureaus. Purchases from hospitals declined by more than 10%.

Monthly procurement data shows a spike in orders in May, especially from CDC buyers and the People's Liberation Army.

"We believe the increased spending in May suggests this as the earliest start date for possible infection," the report said.

Purchases rose sharply from July through October as well, in particular from the Wuhan University of Science and Technology. The institution spent 8.92 million yuan on PCR tests in 2019, about eight times its total for the previous year.

The university, along with local hospitals and public health authorities, plays a direct role in responding to outbreaks of new diseases, according to the report.

The involvement of these groups provides evidence that "the increase of purchasing was most likely linked to the emergence of COVID-19 in Hubei Province in 2019," the report said. "We assess with high confidence that the pandemic began much earlier than China informed the [World Health Organization] about COVID-19."

The U.S. and China have butted heads over the issue since the early days of the pandemic. Beijing told the WHO that the first symptomatic case was recorded Dec. 8, 2019. But some in the U.S. allege that the virus was circulating in humans before then, with claims that it leaked from a research laboratory.

"We can't say for sure with just" the public procurement information, said Akira Igata, a visiting professor at Tama Graduate School of Business in Tokyo who examined that data independently, "but it's strong information for making the case that there was awareness of a virus outbreak around Wuhan several months to half a year before that December."

"This report could provide an opportunity for countries to press China for information again," Igata said.

Satellite images from Wuhan hospital parking lots show a sharp increase in activity starting in August 2019, according to a study last year by researchers from Harvard and other institutions. But a report in August by U.S. intelligence agencies found no confirmation as to whether the disease spilled over from an animal host or leaked from a lab.

"There has been no sharing of usable data from China regarding how and when COVID-19 started," said David Robinson, one of the authors of the latest report. "Zero transparency has fueled a lot of hypothesis, theory, misinformation as well as heartache for the victims."

"Internet 2.0 has used our skills to try and provide some reliable data for the world coming to terms with the impacts of this pandemic," he added, referring to the cybersecurity company that published the report.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/China-PCR-test-orders-soared-before-first-confirmed-COVID-case

It takes a special level of koolaid drinking to still believe that this didn't come from the Wuhan lab.  But yeah, let's have the government and big tech squash "misinformation." 

[Fireballer 2,642]

13 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

 

It takes a special level of koolaid drinking to still believe that this didn't come from the Wuhan lab.  But yeah, let's have the government and big tech squash "misinformation." 

Trump saying it came from the Wuhan lab is enough to put all the strength of the MSM and social media against it.

[Utilit99 4,099]

7 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Trump saying it came from the Wuhan lab is enough to put all the strength of the MSM and social media against it.

Yep. Just like kameltoe saying she would never take a vaccine that Trump recommended. 

Afghanistan was a success. The border is closed tightly. The economy is great. People are going back to work. Masks are needed for the vaccinated. Kids need to be vaccinated. biden is in charge and is sane. kameltoe is working hard. biden is a centrist. Other nations are all in on supporting the US and biden. White supremacy is the nations biggest threat. blm matters. antifa is fake. Everything bad is Trump's fault. The capital selfie fest was worse than 9/11. Border agents keeping from storming the US illegally is worse than slavery. 

On and on you can prove these idiots wrong with little to no effort. 

Liberals have no shame. I don't know how they look themselves in the mirror.

[listen2me 23 1,873]

So it rings true again.

What is the difference between a conservative conspiracy and the truth?

6 months (or 18 months in some cases)

Trump tried to tell people from the jump.  

[TimmySmith 2,782]

8 hours ago, Fireballer said:

Trump saying it came from the Wuhan lab is enough to put all the strength of the MSM and social media against it.

All to sell clicks. Destroying America and murdering people for clicks. And of course their followers are too stupid to know they're dupes.

[Fireballer 2,642]

10 hours ago, Fireballer said:

 

Agree with Varitas" methods or not, how can anyone watch this and not think it's criminal that there is no consideration for previous infection when pushing these mandates?  

[TimmySmith 2,782]

1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

Agree with Varitas" methods or not, how can anyone watch this and not think it's criminal that there is no consideration for previous infection when pushing these mandates?  

It's a company, who owns politicians, doing what they do. We need to go after the politicians who own stock and are making their decisions based on that.

[lod001 1,344]

The Nuge is the best. Sums it up perfectly.

 

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

5 minutes ago, lod001 said:

The Nuge is the best. Sums it up perfectly.

 

Celebrities on the news who support my views = the best

Celebrities on the news who don't support my views = liberal, commie, sheep, whack job, pedophiles

[lod001 1,344]

44 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Celebrities on the news who support my views = the best

Celebrities on the news who don't support my views = liberal, commie, sheep, whack job, pedophiles, LOSERS

You missed one.

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

3 minutes ago, lod001 said:

You missed one.

I missed more than that but I got my point across.  Nugent is a nut job too.

[Utilit99 4,099]

8 hours ago, lod001 said:

The Nuge is the best. Sums it up perfectly.

 

The best!! 

[Fireballer 2,642]

These fukin idiots...what a joke. Who in the fuk would this propaganda influence?