Coronavirus - Doomsday

[jerryskids 7,085]

51 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

"It would be absolutely impossible" to test positive because you got the vaccine, says Jeremy Kamil, a virologist at Louisiana State University Health Shreveport.

This is because the tests are "testing for something not in the vaccine," says Dr. Seth Cohen, an infectious disease physician and medical director of Infection Prevention & Control at the University of Washington Medical Center.

The vaccine and the tests are based upon different parts of the COVID virus. "All the vaccines in the United States use the spike genetic material," says Kamil. "All of the home tests detect something called nucleocapsid," a protein not found in the vaccine.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/10/04/1126542224/coronavirus-booster-faq-can-it-cause-a-positive-test-when-should-you-get-it

Thanks.   

[nobody 2,883]

1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said:

You're calling it a vaccine now?

Good catch.  Shot.

[Baker Boy 1,710]

https://www.foxnews.com/health/orange-county-ca-declares-state-emergency-surge-viruses
 

Orange County, CA, declares state of emergency over surge in viruses

Southern California county is seeing record pediatric infections

 

 

[jerryskids 7,085]

3 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

https://www.foxnews.com/health/orange-county-ca-declares-state-emergency-surge-viruses
 

Orange County, CA, declares state of emergency over surge in viruses

Southern California county is seeing record pediatric infections

 

 

That's all RSV.  It even says Covid is on the decline.  (but it could go up$#@!)

[Baker Boy 1,710]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

That's all RSV.  It even says Covid is on the decline.  (but it could go up$#@!)

It is because of the lockdown. People’s immune systems have been compromised because of a lack of exposure to germs etc.

[jerryskids 7,085]

26 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

It is because of the lockdown. People’s immune systems have been compromised because of a lack of exposure to germs etc.

Gotcha.  I particularly worry about the infants who were isolated for their early development.  I expect them to have significant problems with immune issues as they age.  The Party of Science will of course fall back on "we had to save the infants from the 0.0000000000000001% Covid death rate, it was out of love!"

[TimHauck 3,307]

20 hours ago, Horseman said:

Pooper McGavin!

Isolating kids during Covid caused the RSV epidemic we are currently having.  Dummy.

My wife is bikini model HOT.  Don't be a hater because you had a bunch of snot nosed kids with some fatty.

 

11 hours ago, Baker Boy said:

It is because of the lockdown. People’s immune systems have been compromised because of a lack of exposure to germs etc.

Oh, so you admit staying home resulted in at worst a delay in Covid infections?

On that note, I’d be interested to see if the “record” RSV infections of the past 2 years are really just the same total they would have been but spreading out those that would have likely occurred in 2020 into 2021 and 2022

[Baker Boy 1,710]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

 

Oh, so you admit staying home resulted in at worst a delay in Covid infections?

On that note, I’d be interested to see if the “record” RSV infections of the past 2 years are really just the same total they would have been but spreading out those that would have likely occurred in 2020 into 2021 and 2022

Check that out and get back to me.

[lickin_starfish 2,006]

I am amazed that all the un-injected people I know are still alive and well. It's a miracle!

[Baker Boy 1,710]

2 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

I am amazed that all the un-injected people I know are still alive and well. It's a miracle!

And we are not getting Covid like the jab people are.

[TimHauck 3,307]

9 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Check that out and get back to me.

Don’t mind if I do.

 

It’s an even better picture than I thought.  Cumulative hospitalizations for RSV from October 2021-September 2022 were actually lower than from October 2019-April 2020.  So, Baker Boy and Horseman wrong again.  Sorry guys
 

[Baker Boy 1,710]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Don’t mind if I do.

 

It’s an even better picture than I thought.  Cumulative hospitalizations for RSV from October 2021-September 2022 were actually lower than from October 2019-April 2020.  So, Baker Boy and Horseman wrong again.  Sorry guys
 

Unfortunately the graph in the tweet is not the same as the graph in the link how did that happen?

[TimHauck 3,307]

2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Unfortunately the graph in the tweet is not the same as the graph in the link how did that happen?

Click on “cumulative rates”

[Shooter McGavin 618]

13 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Gotcha.  I particularly worry about the infants who were isolated for their early development.  I expect them to have significant problems with immune issues as they age.  The Party of Science will of course fall back on "we had to save the infants from the 0.0000000000000001% Covid death rate, it was out of love!"

That's not what happened, Baker Boy is wrong.  What happened is the past 2 years with the quarantines and distancing, RSV hasn't spread much, so there became a large number of children that were never exposed, and now that we're pretty much back to normal, they're all getting exposed.  So it's like 3 years of cases all happening in one year.  Make sense?

[DonS 3,319]

On 11/2/2022 at 6:19 AM, lod001 said:

 Yeah, we are the ones that are dying.  How'd that work out for you, loser? Boosted her dumb ass right into a heart attack and a coffin, where she deserved to be.

 

Oof.  Looks like that Julie b1tch got a healthy dose of karma.  

[TimHauck 3,307]

On 11/2/2022 at 9:19 AM, lod001 said:

 Yeah, we are the ones that are dying.  How'd that work out for you, loser? Boosted her dumb ass right into a heart attack and a coffin, where she deserved to be.

 

 

3 minutes ago, DonS said:

Oof.  Looks like that Julie b1tch got a healthy dose of karma.  

Stay classy…

[Hawkeye21 2,454]

31 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

And we are not getting Covid like the jab people are.

Did you ever get covid?  I ended up having it twice.  The second time was very mild.

[DonS 3,319]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

 

Stay classy…

You mean like that b1tch that says COVID kills the right people?   I'm just pointing out the irony is all. 

[TimHauck 3,307]

Just now, DonS said:

You mean like that b1tch that says COVID kills the right people?   I'm just pointing out the irony is all. 

She wasn’t classy either 

[DonS 3,319]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

She wasn’t classy either 

 

 

[Baker Boy 1,710]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Did you ever get covid?  I ended up having it twice.  The second time was very mild.

Not that I know of, I may have but whenever I was tested it came back "not detected".

[Horseman 2,684]

55 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Don’t mind if I do.

 

It’s an even better picture than I thought.  Cumulative hospitalizations for RSV from October 2021-September 2022 were actually lower than from October 2019-April 2020.  So, Baker Boy and Horseman wrong again.  Sorry guys
 

"Currently having"  We're in year 2022-2023 dumbass.  

[lickin_starfish 2,006]

I caught the coovids once, but the symptoms were mild because I wasn't vaccinated.

[TimHauck 3,307]

1 hour ago, Horseman said:

"Currently having"  We're in year 2022-2023 dumbass.  

So lockdowns caused an RSV epidemic 2 years later, but not 1 year later?  Dumbass

[jerryskids 7,085]

2 hours ago, Shooter McGavin said:

That's not what happened, Baker Boy is wrong.  What happened is the past 2 years with the quarantines and distancing, RSV hasn't spread much, so there became a large number of children that were never exposed, and now that we're pretty much back to normal, they're all getting exposed.  So it's like 3 years of cases all happening in one year.  Make sense?

I understand this argument and it is surely part of the increase, but let's wait a few years and see how it plays out.  Hopefully there will be no long-term susceptibility issue with diseases in general, but I'm not optimistic. 

[Horseman 2,684]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

So lockdowns caused an RSV epidemic 2 years later, but not 1 year later?  Dumbass

This year dumbass. Can't you read?  If you learn how to read a graph go ahead and map it out against when schools opened with the appropriate year delay added in. 

I know it's hard for you, but, try using your brain instead of pulling BS off of twitter.  I mean even the MSM news outlets are reporting the cause of RSV we are seeing this year correctly. 

 

[Horseman 2,684]

18 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

So lockdowns caused an RSV epidemic 2 years later, but not 1 year later?  Dumbass

You know you've really fallen off the dummy truck when Pooper McGavin gets it right and you don't.

2 hours ago, Shooter McGavin said:

That's not what happened, Baker Boy is wrong.  What happened is the past 2 years with the quarantines and distancing, RSV hasn't spread much, so there became a large number of children that were never exposed, and now that we're pretty much back to normal, they're all getting exposed.  So it's like 3 years of cases all happening in one year.  Make sense?

Nice job Pooper.  Thanks for pooping in!

[TimHauck 3,307]

1 hour ago, Horseman said:

This year dumbass. Can't you read?  If you learn how to read a graph go ahead and map it out against when schools opened with the appropriate year delay added in. 

I know it's hard for you, but, try using your brain instead of pulling BS off of twitter.  I mean even the MSM news outlets are reporting the cause of RSV we are seeing this year correctly. 

 

Wait are you claiming there were a meaningful # of schools closed in October 2021?  Because that’s not true at all.   Many were requiring masks though at least at first and more people were probably actually keeping their kids home if they were sick, so maybe that helped keep down RSV cases…

Heck the MSM was even talking about RSV outbreaks last winter, I’m sure it was talked about here.  Yet, looking at the data, that wasn’t really true—the season started earlier and lasted longer, but cumulatively was similar to pre-Covid years.

Even this year, it started earlier again, but TBD if that will mean it will actually be worse overall.   And it would need to be significantly worse for the total of the 3 years to be worse than it would have been if Covid never happened.

[Shooter McGavin 618]

2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

I understand this argument and it is surely part of the increase, but let's wait a few years and see how it plays out.  Hopefully there will be no long-term susceptibility issue with diseases in general, but I'm not optimistic. 

There won't be.

https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2020/05/all-social-distancing-weakening-our-immune-systems

[lod001 1,345]

On 11/2/2022 at 1:45 PM, Shooter McGavin said:

Fine with me if you never want another vaccine again, or any medication for that matter.

Sad (for you) that you cannot tell useless garbage that never worked with medication that does. Yeah, I take certain medicine because it works and is needed. I didn't take the useless EXPERIMENTAL jab because I figured it wouldn't work and figured it would kill people. I was right on both.

[TimHauck 3,307]

17 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Sad (for you) that you cannot tell useless garbage that never worked with medication that does. Yeah, I take certain medicine because it works and is needed. I didn't take the useless EXPERIMENTAL jab because I figured it wouldn't work and figured it would kill people. I was right on both.

But ivermectin works great despite no legitimate evidence, right?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,543]

32 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

But ivermectin works great despite no legitimate evidence, right?

tylenol and cough syrup worked for me as well

 

[jerryskids 7,085]

51 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

There won't be.

https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2020/05/all-social-distancing-weakening-our-immune-systems

That article appears to refer to adults; I see no mention of infants. 

It seems the medical community has not pinpointed the underlying mechanisms, but the hygiene hypothesis for young children is a real thing supported by epidemiological data.  Here is an article about it regarding asthma, and RSV in particular, from the FDA:

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/consumers-biologics/asthma-hygiene-hypothesis

And this about autoimmune disorders, from Frontiers in Immunology and Nature:

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2020.615192/full

https://www.nature.com/articles/nri.2017.111

From this last article:

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The incidence of autoimmune diseases has been steadily rising. Concomitantly, the incidence of most infectious diseases has declined. This observation gave rise to the hygiene hypothesis, which postulates that a reduction in the frequency of infections contributes directly to the increase in the frequency of autoimmune and allergic diseases. This hypothesis is supported by robust epidemiological data, but the underlying mechanisms are unclear.

So we might see a significant increase in allergies and autoimmune disorders from the isolation.  

BTW MIT Medical is a care network, not a research organization.

This one cites your article and then seems to somewhat refute it, for infants/young children anyway:

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In a paper that appeared in the journal Perspectives in Public Health in 2016, Prof. Sally F. Bloomfield and colleagues examine Dr. Strachan’s original paper.

They write: “The immune system is a learning device, and at birth it resembles a computer with hardware and software but few data. Additional data must be supplied during the first year of life, through contact with microorganisms from other humans and the natural environment.”

...

The authors point to the post-hygiene hypothesis theory known as the old friends (OF) mechanismTrusted Source.

Introduced in 2003, it suggests that the important exposures to microbes in early life are not actually colds, measles, or other childhood ailments, but rather those microbes that were already around during the hunter-gatherer period, when the immune system was evolving.

These microbes include species that live in both indoor and outdoor environments, and they come from the skin, gut, and respiratory tracts of other people.

“OF exposures are vital,” say the researchers, “because they interact with the regulatory systems that keep the immune system in balance and prevent overreaction, which is an underlying cause of allergies. Diversity of microbial exposure is key.”

They note that the most important times in life for OF exposure are during pregnancy, delivery, and the first months of infancy. They also add that continuing exposure from the mother and siblings is vital.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-have-pandemic-lockdowns-affected-the-immune-system#Some-microbes-are-friends,-others-are-not

[TimHauck 3,307]

On 11/2/2022 at 9:15 AM, lod001 said:

Well the tests are completely useless, like I said a year or so ago, so yes. Latest peer reviewed study.

https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/peer-reviewed-study-confirms-fatal

 

On 11/2/2022 at 9:19 AM, Reality said:

Yeah, they told us very early on the tests were garbage. No surprise.

Lol at you idiots

 

Don’t forget your “journal” car decals!

 

 

 

 

[nobody 2,883]

Another study on the trash pile.

[TimHauck 3,307]

On 7/23/2022 at 5:20 PM, TimHauck said:

Well since you guys have nothing other than vaccine effectiveness against infection, here are some of the lies from the GC in this thread, just off the top of my head, all of which have been factually proven wrong:

-flu was just being marked as covid

-most positive Covid test results were false positives

-total death rate of Covid was only 0.003% (or some other ridiculously low #)

-total deaths didn’t increase in 2020 (debunking the “Johns Hopkins study” that said this was really why I started posting here in the first place)

-94% of Covid deaths were “with not from”

-the vaccines don’t work to reduce hospitalization and death

-the vaccines have killed 100k+ (I think this is mostly just lod at least)

-ivermectin/HCQ/Vitamin D etc are miracle drugs

-Delta was caused by the vaccine

 

Sure I’m forgetting some.    But it was just Fauci and Birx that were lying, right?

forgot to bump this earlier, I know some others were added along the way.  But I’ll grant “amnesty” for those that admit they were wrong about these.

[edjr 6,898]

Get ya 5th boostah. Big Pharma needs money. 

[lickin_starfish 2,006]

Timmy won't get his bivalent booster, even though the CDC says he needs it to prevent serious illness. I don't think he believes the science.

Get your booster, Timothy.

[Shooter McGavin 618]

Went to the supermarket the other day and saw over 75% of the people were wearing masks.  Also they were mostly old.  Thought maybe I intruded on the immunocompromised shopping hours but no I was good.  People masking up again.  I thought about punching them and yelling FREEDOM but I had to make dinner.

[Gladiators 2,032]

27 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

Went to the supermarket the other day and saw over 75% of the people were wearing masks.  Also they were mostly old.  Thought maybe I intruded on the immunocompromised shopping hours but no I was good.  People masking up again.  I thought about punching them and yelling FREEDOM but I had to make dinner and I didn’t want to get my ass kicked.

Smart move.