MLCKAA 574 Posted July 12, 2023 It would be so awesome if cdub deleted this thread. Some people would have withdrawal symptoms! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,672 Posted July 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said: Look how far we've come! Now we're in the denial phase that this ever happened. When I read this post I thought to myself there is no way this was actually true even with the craziness of the time, so I went to the source data expecting the graph to be fake, but I'll be damned if that shìt wasn't in the Rasmussen data. So either they did a good job of creating a fake source data set to go with the graph or people actually went shìtbag crazy. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted July 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, nobody said: When I read this post I thought to myself there is no way this was actually true even with the craziness of the time, so I went to the source data expecting the graph to be fake, but I'll be damned if that shìt wasn't in the Rasmussen data. So either they did a good job of creating a fake source data set to go with the graph or people actually went shìtbag crazy. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. It got pretty bad. I'm a federal worker who fought the mandate and never got vaccinated. I paid a lot of attention to the segregate the unvax'd from society movement. People we're saying some pretty horrific things. CNN's Leana Wen was on air promoting not allowing the unvax'd to leave their homes or be allowed to see a doctor. CNN ! This was a main stream idea. Even government policies that were coming out for unvax'd workers bordered on discrimination (may be a class action lawsuit in the works). The government sure opened a can of worms with its covid response, mandates and propaganda. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,100 Posted July 12, 2023 This is the way it was before Obama legalized media propaganda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,875 Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, nobody said: When I read this post I thought to myself there is no way this was actually true even with the craziness of the time, so I went to the source data expecting the graph to be fake, but I'll be damned if that shìt wasn't in the Rasmussen data. So either they did a good job of creating a fake source data set to go with the graph or people actually went shìtbag crazy. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. 20% of Republicans thought we should send the unvaccinated to camps? Not sure I believe this data… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted July 12, 2023 How is this thread still going? Is covid even a thing anymore? I can't remember the last time I heard of someone getting it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,100 Posted July 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: How is this thread still going? Is covid even a thing anymore? I can't remember the last time I heard of someone getting it. I had it two weeks ago for the third time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,100 Posted July 12, 2023 "The main issue is that accidental escape is in fact highly likely – it's not some fringe theory." Robert Garry admitting that Covid was "probably" made in a lab. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted July 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: I had it two weeks ago for the third time How was it? Easier to get over? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted July 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: How is this thread still going? Is covid even a thing anymore? I can't remember the last time I heard of someone getting it. It was only one of the biggest turning points in modern history. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,100 Posted July 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: How was it? Easier to get over? Had a 102 fever and pounding headache for a day then I was fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted July 12, 2023 26 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: How is this thread still going? Is covid even a thing anymore? I can't remember the last time I heard of someone getting it. Seriously. And even if people get sick, who the fock is still testing themselves? 22 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: I had it two weeks ago for the third time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,430 Posted July 12, 2023 26 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said: It was only one of the biggest turning points in modern history. They don’t want to talk about it anymore. It’s a big loser for them. It’s their MO 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted July 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: They don’t want to talk about it anymore. It’s a big loser for them. It’s their MO Yep and a lot of the newly released FOIA documents show the "science" behind our policies was driven by politics and money and not actual science... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted July 12, 2023 57 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said: It was only one of the biggest turning points in modern history. it is incredibly historic. It showed how badly the govt is, without a doubt, corrupt. That the agencies like the CDC, NIH, etc. are liars and cannot be trusted. they tried to act like they just made mistake but they flat out lied to people which has killed 1000s. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted July 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, lod001 said: it is incredibly historic. It showed how badly the govt is, without a doubt, corrupt. That the agencies like the CDC, NIH, etc. are liars and cannot be trusted. they tried to act like they just made mistake but they flat out lied to people which has killed 1000s. They severely impacted an entire generation of kids. Children lost 1.5 years of in person learning and we are seeing the results with testing scores down across the board in all grades. There is no "catchup plan" that learning window is gone and in 5,10,15 years those kids are now in the workforce with reduced skillsets. So expect more burden on the back end of this. Childhood obesity, depression, suicide and drug use all accelerated during the lockdown and again there is no plan to walk to this back. We're too focused on trans rights and other BS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,430 Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Ultra Max Power said: They severely impacted an entire generation of kids. Children lost 1.5 years of in person learning and we are seeing the results with testing scores down across the board in all grades. There is no "catchup plan" that learning window is gone and in 5,10,15 years those kids are now in the workforce with reduced skillsets. So expect more burden on the back end of this. Childhood obesity, depression, suicide and drug use all accelerated during the lockdown and again there is no plan to walk to this back. We're too focused on trans rights and other BS. So while we are still dealing with the aftermath, the centrists don’t want to talk about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted July 14, 2023 NEW: Coronavirus Subcommittee Releases Bombshell Email Showing Fauci Knew Gain-of-Function Research Happened in Wuhan – RedState In the letter, dated February 1, 2020, Fauci summarized a meeting held by the White House task force that he attended with other scientists about the origins of the coronavirus. He wrote that the scientists expressed concerns about a paper by an Indian research group suggesting “that there were mutations in the virus that would be most unusual to have evolved naturally in the bats and that there was a suspicion that this mutation was intentionally inserted.” It continued: The suspicion was heightened by the fact that scientists in Wuhan University are known to have been working on gain-of-function experiments to determine the molecular mechanisms associated with bat viruses adapting to human infection, and the outbreak originated in Wuhan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,542 Posted July 14, 2023 On 7/12/2023 at 8:57 AM, lod001 said: it is incredibly historic. It showed how badly the govt is, without a doubt, corrupt. That the agencies like the CDC, NIH, etc. are liars and cannot be trusted. they tried to act like they just made mistake but they flat out lied to people which has killed 1000s. They didnt just lie. They helped finance the creation of this virus. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,430 Posted July 16, 2023 Like I said early on in this thread, the numbers were bullshit. Still are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted July 16, 2023 Democrats got squirrel'd. The World Government feasted on their vulnerability and inability to think for themselves. They could tell Liberals anything and they'd do it, WITHOUT QUESTION. They knew this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,875 Posted July 16, 2023 On 7/12/2023 at 11:12 AM, Ultra Max Power said: They severely impacted an entire generation of kids. Children lost 1.5 years of in person learning and we are seeing the results with testing scores down across the board in all grades. There is no "catchup plan" that learning window is gone and in 5,10,15 years those kids are now in the workforce with reduced skillsets. So expect more burden on the back end of this. Childhood obesity, depression, suicide and drug use all accelerated during the lockdown and again there is no plan to walk to this back. We're too focused on trans rights and other BS. I don’t believe suicides increased among children in 2020 and 2021. From what I’ve read they actually typically are higher during the school year than summer. Not that that’s really a reason for zoom schooling obviously and we should have opened more schools during the 2020-2021 year (many did) , but it’s not a great argument against it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted July 17, 2023 21 hours ago, TimHauck said: I don’t believe suicides increased among children in 2020 and 2021. From what I’ve read they actually typically are higher during the school year than summer. Not that that’s really a reason for zoom schooling obviously and we should have opened more schools during the 2020-2021 year (many did) , but it’s not a great argument against it. I've seen it reported both ways, but per the CDC the attempts were up. Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says (nbcnews.com) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted July 19, 2023 NYT is now promoting conspiracy theories... "The official number [of Covid-19 deaths] is probably an exaggeration because it includes some people who had [the] virus when they died even though it was not the underlying cause of death," Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,542 Posted July 19, 2023 Our federal government has decided to stop helping fund the development of the next Covid virus: https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Notice-Memo.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,491 Posted July 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, Strike said: Our federal government has decided to stop helping fund the development of the next Covid virus: https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Notice-Memo.pdf Wow, we sure funded a lot of stuff going on there, even AFTER we knew that the lab in China had serious flaws and posed several health risks. Funding research to develop CoV viruses like SARS and MERS to BETTER infect populations. Nice. And Fauci is a piece of shiiite. Quote In a letter dated June 8, 2016, EcoHealth provided a response to NIAI 2016 letter. EcoHealth explained that the goal of its proposed work was to construct MERS and MERS-like chimeric CoVs in order to understand the potential origins of MERS-CoV in bats by studying bat MERS-like CoVs in detail. EcoHealth stated that it believed it was highly unlikely that the proposed work would have any pathogenic potential, but that should any of these recombinants show evidence of enhanced virus growth greater than certain specified benchmarks involving log growth increases, or grow more efficiently in human airway epithelial cells, EcoHealth would immediately: (1) stop all experiments with the mutant, (2) inform the NIAID Program Officer of these results, and (3) participate in decision-making trees to decide appropriate paths forward. Quote Based on the information provided by EcoHealth, NIAID concluded that the proposed work was not subject to the GoF research pause. In a letter dated July 7, 2016, however, NIAID informed EcoHealth that should any of the MERS-like or SARS- like chimeras generated under the grant show evidence of enhanced virus growth greater than 1 log over the parental backbone strain, EcoHealth must stop all experiments with these viruses and provide NIAID Program Officer and Grants Management Specialist, and WIV Institutional Biosafety Committee, with the relevant data and information related to these unanticipated outcomes. Quote The NIH stated that it had received reports that WIV had been conducting research at its facilities in China that posed serious biosafety concerns and, as a result, created health and welfare threats to the public in China and other countries, including the United States. The letter stated that during the period of programmatic suspension, the NIH would continue to review the activities under the grant, taking into consideration information provided by EcoHealth to further assess compliance by EcoHealth and WIV. Among the information and materials requested by NIH from EcoHealth, NIH also directed EcoHealth to arrange for WIV to submit to an outside inspection team charged to review the lab facilities and lab records, with specific attention to addressing the question of whether WIV staff had SARS-CoV-2 in their possession prior to December 2019. Other excerpts from Strikes link indicate that we asked EcoHealth, WIV and other facilities/agencies to provide PROOF that they didn't fock things up, and they were either late in delivering that information or it was never delivered at all. CoVid was TOTALLY created in a lab, in China. And it got out some how. Fauci knew this. Everyone knew this. This makes me so sad and angry for us all. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,672 Posted July 19, 2023 24 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Wow, we sure funded a lot of stuff going on there, even AFTER we knew that the lab in China had serious flaws and posed several health risks. Funding research to develop CoV viruses like SARS and MERS to BETTER infect populations. Nice. Covid was TOTALLY created in a lab, in China. And it got out some how. Fauci knew this. Everyone knew this. Not everyone. When some people here saw that ground 0 was Wuhan which just so happened to be where china has a lab studying coronaviruses, some people here buried their heads in the sand and insisted it was from people eating bats or some shìt because that's what their team blue talking points insisted was true. And even now those people will move on from denial to it doesn't matter. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted July 19, 2023 39 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Wow, we sure funded a lot of stuff going on there, even AFTER we knew that the lab in China had serious flaws and posed several health risks. Funding research to develop CoV viruses like SARS and MERS to BETTER infect populations. Nice. And Fauci is a piece of shiiite. Other excerpts from Strikes link indicate that we asked EcoHealth, WIV and other facilities/agencies to provide PROOF that they didn't fock things up, and they were either late in delivering that information or it was never delivered at all. CoVid was TOTALLY created in a lab, in China. And it got out some how. Fauci knew this. Everyone knew this. This makes me so sad and angry for us all. The trial needs to be televised. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted July 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Reality said: The trial needs to be televised. Have the execution be PPV and use the proceeds to compensate folks who lost their jobs due to the govt mandates. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,875 Posted July 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Ultra Max Power said: NYT is now promoting conspiracy theories... "The official number [of Covid-19 deaths] is probably an exaggeration because it includes some people who had [the] virus when they died even though it was not the underlying cause of death," This was only really true since Omicron. Frustrating to see many people on twitter talk about this and say “this was true all along!!!” when it was not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted July 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, TimHauck said: This was only really true since Omicron. Frustrating to see many people on twitter talk about this and say “this was true all along!!!” when it was not. Hospitals were absolutely conflating with and from covid deaths pre omicron. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,797 Posted July 19, 2023 On 7/12/2023 at 5:15 AM, Ultra Max Power said: Look how far we've come! Now we're in the denial phase that this ever happened. Almost 50% of Dems wanted to fine and imprison critics of the vaccine. Critics. Let that sink in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted July 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Ultra Max Power said: NYT is now promoting conspiracy theories... "The official number [of Covid-19 deaths] is probably an exaggeration because it includes some people who had [the] virus when they died even though it was not the underlying cause of death," I tried to tell the tard that the numbers were all lies. Incredible watching someone be so wrong on everything covid related and yet continuing to spout off. 5 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said: Hospitals were absolutely conflating with and from covid deaths pre omicron. As we see, he continues being the retarded clown. Just to prove what a stupid pile of sh1t & lair he is I give you dates: June 7, 2021. Proof that death were counted wrong BEFORE omicron & yes, if they were counting wrong, so was everyone else. There was $ in it. Nothing this asshat says is to be believed at this point He's just a total fucktard. https://abc7news.com/covid-death-count-alameda-county-deaths-19-cases/10755419/ Omicron shows up in November of 2021. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,875 Posted July 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Almost 50% of Dems wanted to fine and imprison critics of the vaccine. Critics. Let that sink in. And over 20% of Republicans wanted to send the unvaccinated to quarantine camps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,911 Posted July 19, 2023 Get those Jabs Kid!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted July 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, TimHauck said: This was only really true since Omicron. Frustrating to see many people on twitter talk about this and say “this was true all along!!!” when it was not. Keep fighting the good fight Tim! As more and more of the truth gets revealed over the years people like you will look stupid. Good thing for you is, over time people forget what was said/done or don't care. Normals said the counting of covid deaths was highly suspect from the jump. The crazies wanted them silenced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,797 Posted July 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: And over 20% of Republicans wanted to send the unvaccinated to quarantine camps Centrist says what? 20% is a far cry from 50%. 20% of people approve of congress. You can get 20% of people to say the moon is made of cheese. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted July 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Almost 50% of Dems wanted to fine and imprison critics of the vaccine. Critics. Let that sink in. People were considered critical of the vaccine if they touted natural immunity. I got all the protection I needed with zero side effects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,875 Posted July 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said: Hospitals were absolutely conflating with and from covid deaths pre omicron. CDC tracked both “with Covid” and deaths where it was the underlying cause on the death certificate. Through the end of 2021, that # was around 90%+. Starting in 2022 it quickly shifted to about 2/3. This is from someone who has been critical of the government (who also shows that you are being disingenuous by cutting off the first paragraph which shows the NYT quote was only referring to “recent weeks”) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,875 Posted July 19, 2023 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: Centrist says what? 20% is a far cry from 50%. 20% of people approve of congress. You can get 20% of people to say the moon is made of cheese. It says I don’t believe the results are actually accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites