Coronavirus - Doomsday

[TimmySmith 2,782]

25 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

I wonder if I can get an appointment with ole billy to check my heart to make sure I'm doing ok. 

Lay off Bill. Some people sit around thinking what their life would have been like if they stolen a few truly great ideas. Not Bill, he's a doer. 

[jerryskids 6,827]

Found out a friend's mother-in-law is in critical condition with the Covid and not expected to make it.  I don't really know her except that she is morbidly obese, well over 3 bills.

If we get nothing else out of this Covid experience, can we at least stop the charade that any size is healthy?   

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Just now, jerryskids said:

Found out a friend's mother-in-law is in critical condition with the Covid and not expected to make it.  I don't really know her except that she is morbidly obese, well over 3 bills.

If we get nothing else out of this Covid experience, can we at least stop the charade that any size is healthy?   

No the left will double down.  Fat is beautiful.

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19 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Found out a friend's mother-in-law is in critical condition with the Covid and not expected to make it.  I don't really know her except that she is morbidly obese, well over 3 bills.

If we get nothing else out of this Covid experience, can we at least stop the charade that any size is healthy?   

Has anyone said any size is healthy?  I think the "any size can be beautiful" mantra has been out there, but I didn't know people said any size can be healthy.  If so, that flies in the face of all science.  I'd be shocked if any scientific type people would say that.  Unless they're woke of course.

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/well-have-herd-immunity-by-april-11613669731

 

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

16 minutes ago, Strike said:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/well-have-herd-immunity-by-april-11613669731

 

Should be faster than that, I cannot remember if I responded to you already with the below link but I have been watching it for a while. My parents and sister both live in Parker and we will be visiting them next week. Seems like Denver area is already approaching herd immunity.

https://www.tchd.org/823/COVID-19-Data

 

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Found out a friend's mother-in-law is in critical condition with the Covid and not expected to make it.  I don't really know her except that she is morbidly obese, well over 3 bills.

If we get nothing else out of this Covid experience, can we at least stop the charade that any size is healthy?   

 

2 hours ago, Strike said:

Has anyone said any size is healthy?  I think the "any size can be beautiful" mantra has been out there, but I didn't know people said any size can be healthy.  If so, that flies in the face of all science.  I'd be shocked if any scientific type people would say that.  Unless they're woke of course.

 

It is ridiculous, I am not overweight by any means but it would still be healthy for me to lose 10 pounds and try to get back to my highschool weight.

 

Edit: They were recently making fun of this cosmo cover on another forum i visit.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=cosmo+healthy+cover&client=firefox-b-1-d&sxsrf=ALeKk01ERAAA_nIBf3c8fJv6RcH4CKJx-w:1613759246381&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=flKeDnQMwkZXFM%2CSdbJSYmepWitaM%2C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSl0LGhgxLVLGBJAWBukV49Jrn1Dg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjah4jVyfbuAhUCbawKHb6RCGkQ9QF6BAgGEAE&biw=1753&bih=1048#imgrc=flKeDnQMwkZXFM

 

 

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5 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

Should be faster than that, I cannot remember if I responded to you already with the below link but I have been watching it for a while. My parents and sister both live in Parker and we will be visiting them next week. Seems like Denver area is already approaching herd immunity.

https://www.tchd.org/823/COVID-19-Data

 

Thanks for the link.  I live right on the border of Arapahoe and Douglas counties so that's very relevant data to me.  I've tried to follow that page as well as the state's page on Covid but hadn't looked too much lately, since things opened up.  But man we've come a long way quick.  We're down a couple levels in just a month or so.  That's awesome!!

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[lod001 1,344]

So of the 500k deaths, 94% had 3.8 comorbidities or causes per death. So that equates to 30540 actual covid deaths. Sounds like...wait for it...the flu.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EutXcs_XUAMXLMl?format=jpg&name=large

Unhealthy people are dying of this and the rest of us have to suffer. That's SOP for the USA. 

[nobody 2,691]

We’re all about survival of the weakest.  

[TimHauck 2,906]

25 minutes ago, lod001 said:

So of the 500k deaths, 94% had 3.8 comorbidities or causes per death. So that equates to 30540 actual covid deaths. Sounds like...wait for it...the flu.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EutXcs_XUAMXLMl?format=jpg&name=large

Unhealthy people are dying of this and the rest of us have to suffer. That's SOP for the USA. 

Lol welcome to the fake news from August

 

[Cdub100 3,929]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Lol welcome to the fake news from August

 

Just because you ignore it. Doesn't make it fake.

[TimHauck 2,906]

1 hour ago, Cdub100 said:

Just because you ignore it. Doesn't make it fake.

It’s not fake that most of the deaths had underlying conditions.

However many of them would still be alive if they didn’t get covid.  Covid was the underlying cause in 91% of the “with covid” deaths.

Also a lot of the “causes/comorbidities” listed on that page are just symptoms of covid.

[Cdub100 3,929]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

It’s not fake that most of the deaths had underlying conditions.

However many of them would still be alive if they didn’t get covid.  Covid was the underlying cause in 91% of the “with covid” deaths.

Also a lot of the “causes/comorbidities” listed on that page are just symptoms of covid.

That's not what the CDC says.

[TimHauck 2,906]

11 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

That's not what the CDC says.

Actually it is.   Check their weekly deaths file.

[Cdub100 3,929]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Actually it is.   Check their weekly deaths file.

No it's not. 

[TimHauck 2,906]

58 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

No it's not. 

If you’re referring to the 6% nonsense, those are ALL contributing factors, again with many of them just being symptoms of covid.   The “underlying” cause is the main factor that lead to their death, which according to the CDC/death certificates is over 91% of the “with covid” deaths.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,506]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

If you’re referring to the 6% nonsense, those are ALL contributing factors, again with many of them just being symptoms of covid.   The “underlying” cause is the main factor that lead to their death, which according to the CDC/death certificates is over 91% of the “with covid” deaths.

Do you think the government lies to the public on a consistent basis? 

[Cdub100 3,929]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

If you’re referring to the 6% nonsense, those are ALL contributing factors, again with many of them just being symptoms of covid.   The “underlying” cause is the main factor that lead to their death, which according to the CDC/death certificates is over 91% of the “with covid” deaths.

You know why nobody believes you? It's because of sh1t like this. It's only nonsense because it doesn't fit into your narrative. 

 

[TimHauck 2,906]

11 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

You know why nobody believes you? It's because of sh1t like this. It's only nonsense because it doesn't fit into your narrative. 

 

No, it’s nonsense because people distort/misinterpret the data.

Here is the actual page from the CDC, not some screenshot of 1 sentence with misleading commentary added:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities

Almost 40% of the deaths also list “respiratory failure.”  Gee, what do you think it is about covid that kills people?  It makes it hard to breathe.

 

[Cdub100 3,929]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No, it’s nonsense because people distort/misinterpret the data.

Here is the actual page from the CDC, not some screenshot of 1 sentence with misleading commentary added:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities

Almost 40% of the deaths also list “respiratory failure.”  Gee, what do you think it is about covid that kills people?  It makes it hard to breathe.

 

Hello pot.

[TimHauck 2,906]

9 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Hello pot.

Example?

[Cdub100 3,929]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Example?

You calling data that doesn't fit your narrative nonsense for one.

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Fauci says we might have to wear masks in to 2022.

[TimHauck 2,906]

12 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

You calling data that doesn't fit your narrative nonsense for one.

I said most of the deaths had underlying conditions.  But covid is what killed 91%+ of them.

[Strike 5,574]

Wanna read a hit piece?  This is an actual quote from an article on a major news website:

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Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, ignored federal guidelines and prioritized getting senior citizens — one of Florida’s most potent voting blocs — vaccinated first.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-governor-accused-playing-politics-covid-vaccine-n1258240

[TimHauck 2,906]

13 minutes ago, Strike said:

Wanna read a hit piece?  This is an actual quote from an article on a major news website:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-governor-accused-playing-politics-covid-vaccine-n1258240

Yeah that’s bad (by the author/nbc).  The argument also doesn’t really make much sense - if he’s doing it for votes, why do this for people that are going to vote for him anyway?

[Fireballer 2,642]

24 minutes ago, Strike said:

Wanna read a hit piece?  This is an actual quote from an article on a major news website:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-governor-accused-playing-politics-covid-vaccine-n1258240

JFC thats just as sh!tty as it gets

[Hardcore troubadour 15,506]

31 minutes ago, Strike said:

Wanna read a hit piece?  This is an actual quote from an article on a major news website:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-governor-accused-playing-politics-covid-vaccine-n1258240

Good ole Corky. He could always be counted on to print the BS that was fed to him back in the day. He’s a joke. 

[Fireballer 2,642]

How did I guess the answer to the last question before she said it?

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,506]

We were told the air was fine at ground zero after 9/11. We were told that IRAQ had WMD’s. The list goes on and on. Yet some are still willing to believe the government wouldn’t lie about elections/ Covid. I can’t explain it. 

[TimHauck 2,906]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

We were told the air was fine at ground zero after 9/11. We were told that IRAQ had WMD’s. The list goes on and on. Yet some are still willing to believe the government wouldn’t lie about elections/ Covid. I can’t explain it. 

Is every government in the world lying about it?

Of course some are, like China and North Korea.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,506]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Is every government in the world lying about it?

Of course some are, like China and North Korea.

This government has a history of lying, and it does it all the time. Maybe their data is legit, but they do not deserve the benefit of the doubt. And couple that with the fact that what they tell us doesn’t add up then I can’t see why everyone isn’t suspicious. Cuomo lied, there is no doubt. You think he’s an outlier? I don’t. I think he’s the first one to get caught. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

When is creepy joe going to fix all this. He spent a year saying he would have this under control if he were president.

He was even given a vaccine and he still can't manage it. C'mon joey, prove to the world you are who you say you are.   

[KSB2424 3,148]

So my wife's best friend has cancer, colorectul that spread to her lung and liver.  I don't know all the specifics but she has half her lungs and liver.  Good news is her recent scans and numbers are fairly good considering.  She's living with it but has it at bay right now.....obviously she'll fight it the rest of her life but things are as good as they can be right now.  With that said, having cancer and half of her lungs, Covid-19 would be an immediate death sentence.

She still cannot get vaccinated.  They have perfectly healthy teachers in front of her in "line".   Apparently these "front line workers" even if under 40 and healthy have priority over our friend.  

Complete B.S. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

2 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

So my wife's best friend has cancer, colorectul that spread to here lung and liver.  I don't know all the specifics but she has half her lungs and liver.  Good news is her recent scans and numbers are fairly good considering.  She's living with it but has it at bay right now.....obviously she'll fight it the rest of her life but things are as good as they can be right now all things considering.  With that said, having cancer and half of her lungs, Covid-19 would be a death sentence.

She still cannot get vaccinated.  They have perfectly healthy teachers in front of her in "line".   Apparently these "front line workers" even if under 40 and healthy have priority over our friend.  

Complete B.S. 

It's focking sickening.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

15 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

So my wife's best friend has cancer, colorectul that spread to her lung and liver.  I don't know all the specifics but she has half her lungs and liver.  Good news is her recent scans and numbers are fairly good considering.  She's living with it but has it at bay right now.....obviously she'll fight it the rest of her life but things are as good as they can be right now.  With that said, having cancer and half of her lungs, Covid-19 would be an immediate death sentence.

She still cannot get vaccinated.  They have perfectly healthy teachers in front of her in "line".   Apparently these "front line workers" even if under 40 and healthy have priority over our friend.  

Complete B.S. 

My 74 year old mom with stage 4 breast cancer couldn’t get vaccinated, but prisoners could. 
 

Good news is that she got vaccinated yesterday. Wife waiting on her 2nd dose

[KSB2424 3,148]

29 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said:

My 74 year old mom with stage 4 breast cancer couldn’t get vaccinated, but prisoners could. 
 

Good news is that she got vaccinated yesterday. Wife waiting on her 2nd dose

It's weird.  You would think people over 70 and those with obvious health concerns would be first in line.  So odd to me......

My friends sister is a nurse and has been vaccinated but she begged for her sister to get it instead of her, was denied.  Another friend is a teacher and she's done the same, willing to give up her spot for our friend.  Called her oncologist and all, but was told it can't happen that way.  I don't get it.  

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

7 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

It's weird.  You would think people over 70 and those with obvious health concerns would be first in line.  So odd to me......

My friends sister is a nurse and has been vaccinated but she begged for her sister to get it instead of her, was denied.  Another friend is a teacher and she's done the same, willing to give up here spot for our friend.  Called her oncologist and all, but was told it can't happen that way.  I don't get it.  

It is a bit of a mess. We have a new set of eligible people. It is people 65+ with 2 or more co-morbidities. Of course one of the options for a co-morbidity is smoking.