iam90sbaby 2,158 Posted July 23, 2020 In Florida they don't even call it unemployment they call it "re-employment" and I'm not on a W-2 so I'm not eligible. I got the UPA for a few weeks but it stopped when I went back to work at the beginning of the month. I only know a handful of people now collecting government checks, the rest of us have been working again for a few weeks now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,246 Posted July 23, 2020 2 hours ago, FlyinHeadlock said: Should be a loan. No income tax refund check until it's all paid back. Fock that. Print me off 12 Ben Franklins and call it even. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,033 Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Frozenbeernuts said: I don't know how it would create that much more man hours. People get paid based on their income, well at least in IL. Is unemployment a set amount in some states? I guess not all states are the same, but in IL they already know how much applicants have made and base their unemployment pay based on that amount. Since they already have the amount someone makes, just add a percentage based off of that. If someone gets the maximum their state allows, then add 50-75% on top. If someone lives in a state that hands out less unemployment, like Indiana, tough shlt. In Michigan the max you can get is 362 a week no matter what you make Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TommyGavin 790 Posted July 23, 2020 Back to the unemployment - my boys (21/18) were collecting and they didn’t bat an eye when they got called back to their bartender/bar back jobs - they were so done being home and not working. Unfortunately they are now making very little $$ with outdoor seating in 90+ degree weather. Prior to Covid On a good Friday/ Saturday night and football Sunday they would make $200 to $300 a night Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,653 Posted July 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, kilroy69 said: In Michigan the max you can get is 362 a week no matter what you make In IL its over 600 with a dependent. Michigan has Lower unemployment for a reason, so you would get less money than IL residents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,741 Posted July 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said: I don't know how it would create that much more man hours. People get paid based on their income, well at least in IL. Is unemployment a set amount in some states? I guess not all states are the same, but in IL they already know how much applicants have made and base their unemployment pay based on that amount. Since they already have the amount someone makes, just add a percentage based off of that. If someone gets the maximum their state allows, then add 50-75% on top. If someone lives in a state that hands out less unemployment, like Indiana, tough shlt. AZ max is 250 a week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,741 Posted July 24, 2020 38 minutes ago, TommyGavin said: Back to the unemployment - my boys (21/18) were collecting and they didn’t bat an eye when they got called back to their bartender/bar back jobs - they were so done being home and not working. Unfortunately they are now making very little $$ with outdoor seating in 90+ degree weather. Prior to Covid On a good Friday/ Saturday night and football Sunday they would make $200 to $300 a night Neither of my kids have gotten called back to work. Boy is 25, was doing convention a/v setup at resorts, girl 21 worked at a concert venue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TommyGavin 790 Posted July 24, 2020 9 hours ago, shorepatrol said: Neither of my kids have gotten called back to work. Boy is 25, was doing convention a/v setup at resorts, girl 21 worked at a concert venue Hopefully they are still collecting unemployment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,773 Posted July 24, 2020 12 hours ago, TommyGavin said: Back to the unemployment - my boys (21/18) were collecting and they didn’t bat an eye when they got called back to their bartender/bar back jobs - they were so done being home and not working. Unfortunately they are now making very little $$ with outdoor seating in 90+ degree weather. Prior to Covid On a good Friday/ Saturday night and football Sunday they would make $200 to $300 a night I bartend Friday nights right now. It's an outdoor bar (covered with an awning) People cannot sit at the bar, it is configured in a way, that the bar has 7 tables that can handle 2 to 3 people. It is me and my sister in law (38DD), she does most of the tables and I do most of the service drinks. typically we would make 300+, so far this year we have made $175 to $250. The servers have not lost a penny and still make $350 per shift. I am not sour at the money, it is just extra money for me. it seems wildly unfair and they should tip the bartenders more than they normally would, that is what I would do. They are mostly young selfish focks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 377 Posted July 24, 2020 $2400 ($1200 + $1200) is lot of money to be missing out on. Should be $1200 to anyone making $100,000 or less and $600 for everyone else. Seems more fair. I make a little over a hundred thou (mostly cuz I work the OT nobody wants) but I can still use $2400. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,773 Posted July 24, 2020 I only got like 700 last time in 2020 I will get 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted July 24, 2020 So, maybe I am not quite getting hit as hard with this stuff, but why do people need a $1200 handout at this time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,773 Posted July 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: So, maybe I am not quite getting hit as hard with this stuff, but why do people need a $1200 handout at this time? Lots of less fortunate people have lost their jahbs and haven't been able to WFH for the past 5 months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted July 24, 2020 1 minute ago, edjr said: Lots of less fortunate people have lost their jahbs and haven't been able to WFH for the past 5 months. I get that, but isn't that what unemployment is for? Shouldn't we leverage the mechanisms in place to cover people who are out of work instead of making new ones that could (have) pay people more money to not work than to work? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,087 Posted July 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: I get that, but isn't that what unemployment is for? Shouldn't we leverage the mechanisms in place to cover people who are out of work instead of making new ones that could (have) pay people more money to not work than to work? Unemployment is *normally* a bridge to help people from one job to another. It also only pays a percentage of what one was making. Why not make that percentage 100% while schools, stores, all things shut down because of the Pandemic? Once it opens back up, unemployment goes back to its original plan too. Example, single mother of two elementary school kids who had to quit her job because schools are all virtual at home now. It's freaking weird times, schools are at home, etc. I fully support unemployment being adjusted accordingly. Where I do agree was that flat $600, that was ridiculous and knee jerk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, KSB2424 said: Unemployment is *normally* a bridge to help people from one job to another. It also only pays a percentage of what one was making. Why not make that percentage 100% while schools, stores, all things shut down because of the Pandemic? Once it opens back up, unemployment goes back to its original plan too. Example, single mother of two elementary school kids who had to quit her job because schools are all virtual at home now. It's freaking weird times, schools are at home, etc. I fully support unemployment being adjusted accordingly. Where I do agree was that flat $600, that was ridiculous and knee jerk. Agreed. I am onboard with augmenting the current unemployment numbers and perhaps extend the timeline if this goes too long. However, the blanket checks without any mechanism to take into account prior income and other assistance seems to be too much and too reactionary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,246 Posted July 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: So, maybe I am not quite getting hit as hard with this stuff, but why do people need a $1200 handout at this time? Because they take enough of my $ and piss it away???? That is more than a good enough reason. It's my FUCKIN $1200 to begin with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted July 24, 2020 40 minutes ago, lod001 said: Because they take enough of my $ and piss it away???? That is more than a good enough reason. It's my FUCKIN $1200 to begin with. BS. If you are at the Geek Club, you don't qualify for the $1200. You make too much money. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,017 Posted July 24, 2020 Think I’ll put in new gutters with my check. MAGA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted July 24, 2020 Anyone who has been getting an extra $600 a week for unemployment should be exempt from any new handouts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,086 Posted July 24, 2020 Hold up...dems want the 600 a week continued...the Reps want it lowered... So the dems can act like they are for the working man...then later they can say look at the wasted tax money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,246 Posted July 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said: Hold up...dems want the 600 a week continued...the Reps want it lowered... So the dems can act like they are for the working man...then later they can say look at the wasted tax money only if they lose in Nov. Trump needs to up the payout. That's how you buy votes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,809 Posted July 24, 2020 There needs to be a mechanism for employers to report individuals who they have offered jobs to but we're turned down. On UE and been offered a job but turned it down? No more UE for you. Get back to work, slacker! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,033 Posted July 24, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 3:33 PM, lod001 said: Beautiful. I'll probably put that $ towards buying an AR-15. I am going to get this. Michigan laws are so stupid for hunting with a rifle where I live. It has to be a walled cartridge and has to be basically be a pistol round. So I am going with a 45/70 trapper. https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/prodimages/72655-DEFAULT-l.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,246 Posted July 25, 2020 13 hours ago, kilroy69 said: I am going to get this. Michigan laws are so stupid for hunting with a rifle where I live. It has to be a walled cartridge and has to be basically be a pistol round. So I am going with a 45/70 trapper. https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/prodimages/72655-DEFAULT-l.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,204 Posted July 25, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 8:12 PM, shorepatrol said: Neither of my kids have gotten called back to work. Boy is 25, was doing convention a/v setup at resorts, girl 21 worked at a concert venue What college degrees get you those jobs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted July 25, 2020 5 hours ago, Alias Detective said: What college degrees get you those jobs? I think some engineering degrees are actually valuable for that. Some techs have to basically know how EVERYTHING works and how to fix it, then they sit backstage for several days on-call waiting for something to break, then they have to fix it super fast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,653 Posted July 25, 2020 On 7/24/2020 at 8:51 AM, KSB2424 said: Unemployment is *normally* a bridge to help people from one job to another. It also only pays a percentage of what one was making. Why not make that percentage 100% while schools, stores, all things shut down because of the Pandemic? Once it opens back up, unemployment goes back to its original plan too. Example, single mother of two elementary school kids who had to quit her job because schools are all virtual at home now. It's freaking weird times, schools are at home, etc. I fully support unemployment being adjusted accordingly. Where I do agree was that flat $600, that was ridiculous and knee jerk. Trickle down economics only works when you give the rich more money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 195 Posted July 25, 2020 All these idiots sitting at home thinking they have struck it rich with that $600 a week are about to find out that the music is gonna stop and they won't have a chair to sit in. https://www.yahoo.com/money/millions-of-americans-will-stay-jobless-for-six-months-or-more-205047951.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,033 Posted July 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, LOD01 said: All these idiots sitting at home thinking they have struck it rich with that $600 a week are about to find out that the music is gonna stop and they won't have a chair to sit in. https://www.yahoo.com/money/millions-of-americans-will-stay-jobless-for-six-months-or-more-205047951.html My Boss said 2 months. I am on 3. I have prepared for a year. Anything extra the feds give will help but I am not counting on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted July 25, 2020 1 minute ago, LOD01 said: All these idiots sitting at home thinking they have struck it rich with that $600 a week are about to find out that the music is gonna stop and they won't have a chair to sit in. https://www.yahoo.com/money/millions-of-americans-will-stay-jobless-for-six-months-or-more-205047951.html Eviction relief also ends July 25th. There's gonna be a lot of people thrown out of their homes, apartments and condos very soon unless the government steps in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,086 Posted July 25, 2020 Hard to find work if your whitey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thornton Melon 549 Posted July 25, 2020 On 7/24/2020 at 8:51 AM, edjr said: I only got like 700 last time in 2020 I will get 0 It'll be based on your 2019 tax return, just like last time. You'll get the same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 195 Posted July 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Cloaca du jour said: Hard to find work if your whitey Gotta go to a non democrat held area for a fair shot at a job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted July 26, 2020 7 hours ago, riversco said: Eviction relief also ends July 25th. There's gonna be a lot of people thrown out of their homes, apartments and condos very soon unless the government steps in. Byeeee. Time to leave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted July 26, 2020 58 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: Byeeee. Time to leave. I wonder if this would be the time to browse apartment complexes for people selling all their stuff via flyers or garage sales. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,773 Posted July 28, 2020 On 7/25/2020 at 5:50 PM, Thornton Melon said: It'll be based on your 2019 tax return, just like last time. You'll get the same thing. I know this next will be based on 2019, I assumed if there were another payment after April 2021 it would be based on 2020 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,097 Posted July 28, 2020 On 7/25/2020 at 2:50 PM, Thornton Melon said: It'll be based on your 2019 tax return, just like last time. You'll get the same thing. The first check hit prior to 2019 filing date so if you hadn't filed yet it was based off 2018 return. This was the case for me. Guess I'll be getting less this 2nd time around since our AGI was higher in 2019. Oh well, I'll still put the cash towards a PS5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,033 Posted July 28, 2020 The republicans offer is dead on arrival. They need like 6 dems to cross over and not to lose any republicans. Neither will happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,017 Posted July 28, 2020 Pelosi doesn’t want the economy to get better. It’s pretty obvious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites