*Official 2020 Election Thread*

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

You're the one who posted a link from Twitter that said "Official Sources Called this Election Differently".  That's exactly what you were referencing to fool people into thinking the election was "officially" called.

No.  I posted it because Trump claimed he won when he didn't, at least not yet.  Stop trying so hard to make it something it's not.

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Sure - let the banks suck it up. Also, regarding the colleges - almost every single one of them are controlled and run by liberals.  That needs to change.  So these same liberals are saying students are getting screwed and at the same time jacking up tuition every year to obscene levels.  F'n Hypocrites.

Is there anything preventing conservative run colleges?

[OldMaid 2,130]

37 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

She’s been gone for a while. Yet still, nothing as dumb as “mostly peaceful” as cities burned. 

And let’s not pretend the left is the only side that preys on people’s emotions. "Biden is a puppet for the radical, left socialists. The democrats stole this election. They want to take your guns." I wonder what emotion that plays to? C’mon you’re better than this.

And while I agree "mostly peaceful" protest is a dumb saying- the people who were looting and burning weren’t part of that. They were opportunist taking advantage of what was going on. Do you think they gave a about the BLM movement. Hell no. They just wanted to get theirs and wreck stuff.

[tanatastic 2,062]

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Is there anything preventing conservative run colleges?

There are plenty of them already. A lot. 

[tanatastic 2,062]

1 minute ago, OldMaid said:

And let’s not pretend the left is the only side that preys on people’s emotions. "Biden is a puppet for the radical, left socialists. The democrats stole this election. They want to take your guns." I wonder what emotion that plays to? C’mon you’re better than this.

 

They WERE better than this before Trump mania. Now they are absolutely not better than this at all. It’s a full on cult now.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,471]

4 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

And let’s not pretend the left is the only side that preys on people’s emotions. "Biden is a puppet for the radical, left socialists. The democrats stole this election. They want to take your guns." I wonder what emotion that plays to? C’mon you’re better than this.

And while I agree "mostly peaceful" protest is a dumb saying- the people who were looting and burning weren’t part of that. They were opportunist taking advantage of what was going on. Do you think they gave a about the BLM movement. Hell no. They just wanted to get theirs and wreck stuff.

I saw a BLM rep in Chicago say looting was reparations and it was ok because the store had insurance. So someone can’t be part of or support BLM and also loot? So if I asked the looters if they were down with BLM, they would say no? Come on. I don’t know if Biden is a puppet yet. He hasn’t had to answer those questions.  Because you and the rest of his voters weren’t interested, so he wasn’t asked. You got fed what they wanted you to hear, nothing more.  The cult of OMB only cared about Trump. 

[OldMaid 2,130]

 

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I saw a BLM rep in Chicago say looting was reparations and it was ok because the store had insurance. So someone can’t be part of or support BLM and also loot? So if I asked the looters if they were down with BLM, they would say no? Come on. I don’t know if Biden is a puppet yet. He hasn’t had to answer those questions.  Because you and the rest of his voters weren’t interested, so he wasn’t asked. You got fed what they wanted you to hear, nothing more.  The cult of OMB only cared about Trump. 

Jesus, is every thing black and white in your world. Of course there will be outliers. There were reports that some of the looters were right wingers, too, trying to make it look like antifa. But the vast majority of the looters were punks plain and simple. 

Man, you guys are exhausting. 

And I will bet $1000.00 this Dominion thing is bullshit, too.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,471]

4 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

 

Jesus, is every thing black and white in your world. Of course there will be outliers. There were reports that some of the looters were right wingers, too, trying to make it look like antifa. But the vast majority of the looters were punks plain and simple. 

Man, you guys are exhausting. 

And I will bet $1000.00 this Dominion thing is bullshit, too.

 

Then I condemn any right wingers involved.  Too bad the left and their leadership and their celebrity spokesmen and women wouldn’t do that. A lot of destruction and a few deaths could have been avoided. The riots and looting is on the left. And that’s really really sad that we now live in a country where this kind of vile crap is justified and accepted. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

10 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

 

Jesus, is every thing black and white in your world. Of course there will be outliers. There were reports that some of the looters were right wingers, too, trying to make it look like antifa. But the vast majority of the looters were punks plain and simple. 

Man, you guys are exhausting. 

You are buying news reports that claim right wingers were looting disguised as antifa and we are exhausting. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,471]

I saw Rand Paul and his wife attacked on the street by leftists. Steve Scalice was shot by a left wing Bernie Bro. Left wing organizations, including Biden staffers, bailed out looters and rioters. Left wing district attorneys refused to even hold looters and rioters never mind prosecute them. They rioted at Trumps inauguration. I saw none of that at Obama’s or during his eight years. And Old Maid and the left are trying to draw a right wing equivalent. Stick to the one incident at Charlottesville. It’s all you got. I can see why you say it’s exhausting trying to defend it. It has to be tiring trying to convince people they didn’t see what they saw. 

[drobeski 3,061]

19 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

 

Ok, slow down. Hold the phone for a second. You people need to realize what you're saying.

Even if this is true, you can't just allow people to know this. The ramifications would be huge. I'm talking about actual revolution against the left on an industrial scale. They won't just be out of power, they'll be permanently branded as enemies of America. Do we really want that? I don't think so. That's too much.

So instead of allowing this kind of stuff to be known, how about we just let Biden be president if he promises to do some of the stuff Trump wants? We'll do amnesty, add a few or several justices to SCOTUS, and make PR and DC states to get four more senators, but we are very flexible on everything else.

Plus, election fraud isn't that big of a deal if you really think hard about it. We should remember that they were coming from a good place when they did it. They aren't evil monsters hell bent on controlling people through the destruction of the middle class and total erasure of American history and identity. They don't want to make everyone slaves haha. That's silly. No, they're just misguided so let's go easy on them and that starts with not talking about this.

I'm not going to talk about this and neither should you. Only the media gets to report whether this is true or not, regular people can't do that. So actually this is illegal to even think about. If this wasn't fake then how come it's not on every news channel? Yeah that's it. This is fake actually. The news isn't reporting on it so it's fake. This would be a huge story and they'd make a lot of money by covering it but they aren't because it's fake yeah. Ok, alright this is fake. This is a fake story fake news. I think we should move on to something else. Fake news is dangerous to our democracy.

Fixed 

[OldMaid 2,130]

12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Then I condemn any right wingers involved.  Too bad the left and their leadership and their celebrity spokesmen and women wouldn’t do that. A lot of destruction and a few deaths could have been avoided. The riots and looting is on the left. And that’s really really sad that we now live in a country where this kind of vile crap is justified and accepted. 

Biden called out the looters and rioters, but I agree the celebrities should have, also. They are too afraid of the Twitter mob, that just like the right, they think speak for the majority. 

[OldMaid 2,130]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I saw Rand Paul and his wife attacked on the street by leftists. Steve Scalice was shot by a left wing Bernie Bro. Left wing organizations, including Biden staffers, bailed out looters and rioters. Left wing district attorneys refused to even hold looters and rioters never mind prosecute them. They rioted at Trumps inauguration. I saw none of that at Obama’s or during his eight years. And Old Maid and the left are trying to draw a right wing equivalent. Stick to the one incident at Charlottesville. It’s all you got. I can see why you say it’s exhausting trying to defend it. It has to be tiring trying to convince people they didn’t see what they saw. 

https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/s894/BILLS-116s894is.xml

[Hardcore troubadour 15,471]

1 minute ago, OldMaid said:

Biden called out the looters and rioters, but I agree the celebrities should have, also. They are too afraid of the Twitter mob, that just like the right, they think speak for the majority. 

Biden staffers bailed out looters and rioters who went right out and looted and rioted again. Did Biden tell them to stop? I don’t recall Biden getting in front of a camera and telling them to stop. Maybe he did.  But that would be a lot more effective than condemning it when prodded. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,471]

1 minute ago, OldMaid said:

https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/s894/BILLS-116s894is.xml

Holy cow. Durbin introduced a bill. So what? That’s your rebuttal to what we saw BLM and Antifa doing all summer ? Base on an op-Ed a DOJ “official” wrote in The NY Times? I’ve seen Louis Gohmert go on Fox and give his two cents. I didn’t give it much credence. I don’t give that much either. 

[OldMaid 2,130]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Biden staffers bailed out looters and rioters who went right out and looted and rioted again. Did Biden tell them to stop? I don’t recall Biden getting in front of a camera and telling them to stop. Maybe he did.  But that would be a lot more effective than condemning it when prodded. 

Did they bail out looter and rioters, or protesters, or both? The articles that come up say protestors, but I’m sure you’ll want to split hairs.

 

Meh... not going down this rabbit hole, as it just really serves no purpose other than to prove we can go back and forth all day and point out the flaws in each other’s party. They both have aspects that aren’t good. But go ahead and tell yourself your side is better.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,117]

12 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Biden called out the looters and rioters, but I agree the celebrities should have, also. They are too afraid of the Twitter mob, that just like the right, they think speak for the majority. 

GTFO.  The Twitter Mob IS made up of all liberals, democrats and leftists.  Those mobs aren't right wingers, not even close.  There is no Right wing Twitter mob or Right Wing mob in general.

Girl, you are trying to draw an equivalence to the right where none exists.  This is all on your side of the aisle.

[OldMaid 2,130]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Holy cow. Durbin introduced a bill. So what? That’s your rebuttal to what we saw BLM and Antifa doing all summer ? Base on an op-Ed a DOJ “official” wrote in The NY Times? I’ve seen Louis Gohmert go on Fox and give his two cents. I didn’t give it much credence. I don’t give that much either. 

Both sides commit violence. Stop pretending otherwise. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,117]

2 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Both sides commit violence. Stop pretending otherwise. 

Sure they do.  Your side just commits it on a scale the right doesn't even come close to matching.

[Dizkneelande 1,101]

16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I saw Rand Paul and his wife attacked on the street by leftists. Steve Scalice was shot by a left wing Bernie Bro. Left wing organizations, including Biden staffers, bailed out looters and rioters. Left wing district attorneys refused to even hold looters and rioters never mind prosecute them. They rioted at Trumps inauguration. I saw none of that at Obama’s or during his eight years. And Old Maid and the left are trying to draw a right wing equivalent. Stick to the one incident at Charlottesville. It’s all you got. I can see why you say it’s exhausting trying to defend it. It has to be tiring trying to convince people they didn’t see what they saw. 

It’s like we are living in alternative universes. I’m waiting for the guy from fringe to show up with free tabs of acid.

[drobeski 3,061]

8 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Did they bail out looter and rioters, or protesters, or both? The articles that come up say protestors, but I’m sure you’ll want to split hairs.

 

Meh... not going down this rabbit hole, as it just really serves no purpose other than to prove we can go back and forth all day and point out the flaws in each other’s party. They both have aspects that aren’t good. But go ahead and tell yourself your side is better.

Its irrefutable,  I'm sorry you're too mentally deranged to see it. Get well soon. 

[DonS 3,292]

5 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

It’s like we are living in alternative universes. I’m waiting for the guy from fringe to show up with free tabs of acid.

Anna Torv

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,471]

8 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Both sides commit violence. Stop pretending otherwise. 

I don’t.  I mentioned Charlottesville, the one significant act of right wing violence under Trump. You don’t list any specific acts from the left. Take your pick. There are plenty. Maybe the two cops shot in LA while they were sitting in their car. Didn’t get Biden’s or Kamalas take on that. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,117]

2 minutes ago, drobeski said:

Its irrefutable,  I'm sorry you're too mentally deranged to see it. Get well soon. 

Dude, she's already an Old Maid and still thinks that way.  If she ain't better by now, she ain't ever gettin' better.

[Dizkneelande 1,101]

2 minutes ago, DonS said:

Anna Torv

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,471]

17 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Did they bail out looter and rioters, or protesters, or both? The articles that come up say protestors, but I’m sure you’ll want to split hairs.

 

Meh... not going down this rabbit hole, as it just really serves no purpose other than to prove we can go back and forth all day and point out the flaws in each other’s party. They both have aspects that aren’t good. But go ahead and tell yourself your side is better.

People were being arrested en masse for protesting? Where, Taiwan? I don’t think so. You’re allowed to protest in this country. Peacefully. When it stops being peaceful then arrests are made. 

[KSB2424 3,148]

20 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Both sides commit violence. Stop pretending otherwise. 

It's like a ratio of 8:1 though.

Just because a Golden Retriever bites once in a blue moon doesn't mean it's the same as a pit bull.  

[vuduchile 1,945]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I saw a BLM rep in Chicago say looting was reparations and it was ok because the store had insurance. So someone can’t be part of or support BLM and also loot? So if I asked the looters if they were down with BLM, they would say no? 

I have a major problem with any local, state or national leader who doesn’t immediately call for the looting and destruction to stop.  
 

That reparations and insurance line really makes my blood boil.  
 

Both my businesses are insured, but that doesn’t mean it would be easy to rebuild them if they were looted and/ or burned. 
 

Beyond that, if these asswipes really wanted reparations for all the blacks killed by cops, they should try to loot and burn their local police station and see how that works out.   
 

Last I checked, cops aren’t in the business of selling big screens and sneakers.  

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

33 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Both sides commit violence. Stop pretending otherwise. 

You’re wasting your time. They’re dug in deep with their views.  

[BirdGang 385]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

You’re wasting your time. They’re dug in deep with their views.  

Keep your blinders on princess, you are a mascot for the violent tantrum party. 

[Gepetto 1,370]

1 hour ago, tanatastic said:

Any revolt from trump supporters will be a band of white hillbillies in a few towns waving flags and maybe a few people get shot. The revolt from liberals however in the hypothetical scenario where Trump is handed the presidency would be catastrophic. Like whole cities burned to the ground bad. 

They'll burn their own cities down, Philadelphia, Detroit, Atlanta, L.A., D.C.  Any decent people living in those cities should get out should Trump somehow get another 4 years.

[tanatastic 2,062]

Just now, Gepetto said:

They'll burn their own cities down, Philadelphia, Detroit, Atlanta, L.A., D.C.  Any decent people living in those cities should get out should Trump somehow get another 4 years.

Yes. But that’s a far fetched scenario and won’t matter. All the states are dropping the voter fraud lawsuits. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,471]

3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

You’re wasting your time. They’re dug in deep with their views.  

Let’s see you list some organized, mass riots and looting by right wingers lately. You can’t.  So shut it with your nonsense. It’s become tiresome watching you throw things out with no backing. At least OM is fighting the fight and it’s respected.  You’re just a fool yelling things out. 

[Cdub100 3,923]

21 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

It's like a ratio of 8:1 though.

Just because a Golden Retriever bites once in a blue moon doesn't mean it's the same as a pit bull.  

100-1

[listen2me 23 1,873]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Then tell the banks that made the loan to suck it up. Have the colleges that made all that money give it back. Why should the tax payer be on the hook? 

Exactly.  

These Liberal azz schools charge big bucks for kids to go listen to liberal propaganda.  Just to create raging hormonal liberals.  Only to turn around and vote Democrat to say "hey we shouldnt have to pay that."

Bizzaro world.  

The Left wants to reform everything  and "build back better".  Then reform the education system and loans.   Instead they will just pass it off to joe taxpayer like always.  Always someone else's problem.  God forbid choices have consequences.  

 

[KSB2424 3,148]

6 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

100-1

I was being generous. 

[KSB2424 3,148]

5 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Exactly.  

These Liberal azz schools charge big bucks for kids to go listen to liberal propaganda.  Just to create raging hormonal liberals.  Only to turn around and vote Democrat to say "hey we shouldnt have to pay that."

Bizzaro world.  

The Left wants to reform everything  and "build back better".  Then reform the education system and loans.   Instead they will just pass it off to joe taxpayer like always.  Always someone else's problem.  God forbid choices have consequences.  

 

If the gov't wants to stop predatory lending or even reducing interest rates to damn near zero, so be it.  However people take out loans on their own accord, you should pay it back.  It's called being a grown up.  

[listen2me 23 1,873]

1 hour ago, TimmySmith said:

You are buying news reports that claim right wingers were looting disguised as antifa and we are exhausting. 

The left covers their eyes.  Only opening them when their masters from CNN show something.  

There are countless videos that show BLM protesters flipping tables of people having dinner.  Spitting at people.  Looting.

I agree with OM that many are opportunistic punks who are looking for free stuff or something to hurt.  But alos many were straight up BLM protesters.

The idea that some of these were right wingers disguised is so funny.  Where does it come from?  Countless video with people chanting f trump.  F white people.  Death to america.  Burn it down.  

These videos are simple to find and are posted daily for months on twitter.  It is indisputable.

[Reality 3,121]

1 hour ago, OldMaid said:

There were reports that some of the looters were right wingers, too, trying to make it look like antifa. 

This is one of my favorites.

It's hard to believe but, apparently, half the country is actually this gullible... 

[Cdub100 3,923]

5 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

I was being generous. 

Me too