[** Official President Joe Biden Thread **]

[craftsman 1,045]

13 minutes ago, dogcows said:

I think you and the rest of the people on the right of this issue have an unhealthy obsession with the genitals of kids you don’t even know. Because you think you know better how to raise somebody else’s kids and handle their medical situations.

Again, right-wingers formed armed protests against mask orders, citing government interference in their lives. Same with vaccine mandates. But they have no problem telling women they can’t get abortions or parents that they can’t treat their child’s medical conditions. Quit trying to force your own shite “morals” on others. 

You don’t even have anywhere near accurate facts on transgender care, but you think your view of it trumps the decisions of parents for their own kids’ wellbeing. What other things do you want to force on people? Break up all gay marriages? Ban Islam? Force people to speak English at all times? Because I see it going that way. When a group realizes they can use the government to force their will on others, they don’t slow down.

Just leave transgender people alone, and stop believing the right-wing propaganda that millions of kids are being groomed and/or mutilated. It’s nonsense.

Wow. You wrote all of that to prove your views on this are simply out of touch with reality. 

 

 

[jerryskids 6,853]

3 hours ago, dogcows said:

I think you and the rest of the people on the right of this issue have an unhealthy obsession with the genitals of kids you don’t even know. Because you think you know better how to raise somebody else’s kids and handle their medical situations.

Again, right-wingers formed armed protests against mask orders, citing government interference in their lives. Same with vaccine mandates. But they have no problem telling women they can’t get abortions or parents that they can’t treat their child’s medical conditions. Quit trying to force your own shite “morals” on others. 

You don’t even have anywhere near accurate facts on transgender care, but you think your view of it trumps the decisions of parents for their own kids’ wellbeing. What other things do you want to force on people? Break up all gay marriages? Ban Islam? Force people to speak English at all times? Because I see it going that way. When a group realizes they can use the government to force their will on others, they don’t slow down.

Just leave transgender people alone, and stop believing the right-wing propaganda that millions of kids are being groomed and/or mutilated. It’s nonsense.

Nice, a bunch of red herrings.  You are just cycling through logical fallacies in this thread.  I'll ignore that shotgun blast of nonsense.

So you're position is that parents should be able to give puberty blockers and pursue surgery for their children.  No age limit I presume, because parents know best.

Let me throw out some of my own red herrings.  You believe that parents should be able to send their kids to conversion therapy.  They should ignore requests for using different names or pronouns, or recognizing in any way that they might be on the spectrum.  Parents know best, right?

My position makes them wait until kids are past puberty with its confusing effects, past the social pressures of high school, and approaching (but not reached) the full development of their prefrontal cortex.  Yours allows confused kids with woke parents to perform permanent, life-altering medical procedures, after which many people regret their decisions as they mature.  I sleep fine at night.   

[dogcows 1,030]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

My position makes them wait until kids are past puberty with its confusing effects, past the social pressures of high school, and approaching (but not reached) the full development of their prefrontal cortex.  Yours allows confused kids with woke parents to perform permanent, life-altering medical procedures, after which many people regret their decisions as they mature.  I sleep fine at night.

Your solution assumes you know better than “woke” parents and doctors how to raise their kids. And based on your posts regarding this issue, I am confident that every set of parents with a kid considering transition who has met with doctors is far better informed.

[jerryskids 6,853]

5 hours ago, dogcows said:

I think you and the rest of the people on the right of this issue have an unhealthy obsession with the genitals of kids you don’t even know. Because you think you know better how to raise somebody else’s kids and handle their medical situations.

Again, right-wingers formed armed protests against mask orders, citing government interference in their lives. Same with vaccine mandates. But they have no problem telling women they can’t get abortions or parents that they can’t treat their child’s medical conditions. Quit trying to force your own shite “morals” on others. 

You don’t even have anywhere near accurate facts on transgender care, but you think your view of it trumps the decisions of parents for their own kids’ wellbeing. What other things do you want to force on people? Break up all gay marriages? Ban Islam? Force people to speak English at all times? Because I see it going that way. When a group realizes they can use the government to force their will on others, they don’t slow down.

Just leave transgender people alone, and stop believing the right-wing propaganda that millions of kids are being groomed and/or mutilated. It’s nonsense.

I forgot to address the bolded.  Wow, just wow.  Wow.  Talk about an utter and complete lack of self-awareness of one's own party.  One group wants to control speech and thought, brokers no opposition, and the government is in line with it. I'll give you a hint, it's yours.   

[dogcows 1,030]

9 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I forgot to address the bolded.  Wow, just wow.  Wow.  Talk about an utter and complete lack of self-awareness of one's own party.  One group wants to control speech and thought, brokers no opposition, and the government is in line with it. I'll give you a hint, it's yours.   

No, you are mistaking conservative anger at cultural shifts, which are not being put into law. Conservatives do not like these cultural shifts, so attempt to pass laws to prevent them from occurring. Funny how the side that claims they hate government interference is the side passing laws telling parents how to raise their kids, or even forcing people to be parents that wanted an abortion instead. 

[jerryskids 6,853]

48 minutes ago, dogcows said:

No, you are mistaking conservative anger at cultural shifts, which are not being put into law. Conservatives do not like these cultural shifts, so attempt to pass laws to prevent them from occurring. Funny how the side that claims they hate government interference is the side passing laws telling parents how to raise their kids, or even forcing people to be parents that wanted an abortion instead. 

It's true that some states are passing laws to protect unborn children, while others are passing laws to make it easier to kill them.  That's what happens when SCOTUS overturns bad jurisprudence and returns the decision to the states, which is a conservative position.  

Federal agencies have been weaponized in recent years:  FBI, DOJ, IRS off the top of my head, they have attempted to take power away from states with bills like the voting act, and they work with social media to control info like the Hunter Biden story during the last presidential election.
 

[DonS 3,292]

HE. HAS. A. STUTTER.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-mocked-claiming-there-54-states-this-guy-completely-senile

 

[craftsman 1,045]

56 minutes ago, DonS said:

HE. HAS. A. STUTTER.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-mocked-claiming-there-54-states-this-guy-completely-senile

 

 

[avoiding injuries 1,595]

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,365]

Ironically Obama thinks there are 57

[shorepatrol 1,871]

1 hour ago, avoiding injuries said:

 

81 million votes. 

[Voltaire 5,322]

10 hours ago, dogcows said:

I think you and the rest of the people on the right of this issue have an unhealthy obsession with the genitals of kids you don’t even know. Because you think you know better how to raise somebody else’s kids and handle their medical situations.

Again, right-wingers formed armed protests against mask orders, citing government interference in their lives. Same with vaccine mandates. But they have no problem telling women they can’t get abortions or parents that they can’t treat their child’s medical conditions. Quit trying to force your own shite “morals” on others. 

You don’t even have anywhere near accurate facts on transgender care, but you think your view of it trumps the decisions of parents for their own kids’ wellbeing. What other things do you want to force on people? Break up all gay marriages? Ban Islam? Force people to speak English at all times? Because I see it going that way. When a group realizes they can use the government to force their will on others, they don’t slow down.

Just leave transgender people alone, and stop believing the right-wing propaganda that millions of kids are being groomed and/or mutilated. It’s nonsense.

They are being groomed and mutilated which is why we're doing our damnedest to get those practices banned from red states and communities. We don't want your sicko friends to get their hands on our kids.

Know this though: I am not looking for a nationwide ban on things, if the country is going to stay unified, there has to be a federalist system where people with red morality and people with blue morality can live in their own states with separate rules and don't fock with the other ones. If you don't like the one set of beliefs, well you can go over there. To break a Senate filibuster takes 60 votes, I think your side should take recourse in that, since the Republicans aren't the ones threatening the filibuster's existence.

My family will be relocating back to the US in a matter of months and the only places we are considering, exclusively, are the reddest parts of red states. (Spoiler alert: almost surely small town Florida). No offense, but my wife and I both find people with your belief to be culturally repulsive and abhorrent, and we don't want people who harbor such beliefs anywhere near our children: not culturally, socially, nor politically. Just the thought of a flight layover in California makes me ill.

[TimHauck 2,931]

6 hours ago, shorepatrol said:

81 million votes. 

The other guy got 74 million, so yes I’m sure there are a lot of people that don’t like Biden

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

8 hours ago, avoiding injuries said:

 

Oh my. Obamy hates Biden even more than before after that. 

[Shooter McGavin 618]

6 hours ago, Voltaire said:

 

My family will be relocating back to the US in a matter of months and the only places we are considering, exclusively, are the reddest parts of red states. (Spoiler alert: almost surely small town Florida). No offense, but my wife and I both find people with your belief to be culturally repulsive and abhorrent, and we don't want people who harbor such beliefs anywhere near our children: not culturally, socially, nor politically. Just the thought of a flight layover in California makes me ill.

What a snowflake

[dogcows 1,030]

7 hours ago, Voltaire said:

They are being groomed and mutilated which is why we're doing our damnedest to get those practices banned from red states and communities. We don't want your sicko friends to get their hands on our kids.

Know this though: I am not looking for a nationwide ban on things, if the country is going to stay unified, there has to be a federalist system where people with red morality and people with blue morality can live in their own states with separate rules and don't fock with the other ones. If you don't like the one set of beliefs, well you can go over there. To break a Senate filibuster takes 60 votes, I think your side should take recourse in that, since the Republicans aren't the ones threatening the filibuster's existence.

My family will be relocating back to the US in a matter of months and the only places we are considering, exclusively, are the reddest parts of red states. (Spoiler alert: almost surely small town Florida). No offense, but my wife and I both find people with your belief to be culturally repulsive and abhorrent, and we don't want people who harbor such beliefs anywhere near our children: not culturally, socially, nor politically. Just the thought of a flight layover in California makes me ill.

Nobody is grooming or mutilating. It’s astonishing to me how many people believe this nonsense.

We even had a Senator (Ron Johnson) say he is “well aware” of kids using kitty litter instead of bathrooms at school. It’s a completely made up story. 

But again, the right is proposing laws that force their beliefs onto others. If a kid thinks they are trans, who should be handling that situation? Their parents and doctors? Or right-wing politicians?

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

So dogcows is good with sex change operations for children. Got it. I hope he’s happy I didn’t call it mutilation. Even though it is. 

[Voltaire 5,322]

33 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Nobody is grooming or mutilating. It’s astonishing to me how many people believe this nonsense.

We even had a Senator (Ron Johnson) say he is “well aware” of kids using kitty litter instead of bathrooms at school. It’s a completely made up story. 

But again, the right is proposing laws that force their beliefs onto others. If a kid thinks they are trans, who should be handling that situation? Their parents and doctors? Or right-wing politicians?

 

Well, that was interesting. I don't think this interview shows what you think it shows, other than another famous blue state pervert trying to bully a decent person in a red state. Jon has fallen. To get back in the country's good graces, he should get over himself and stop trying to perv other people.

[Masshole 642]

 

[dogcows 1,030]

1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

Well, that was interesting. I don't think this interview shows what you think it shows, other than another famous blue state pervert trying to bully a decent person in a red state. Jon has fallen. To get back in the country's good graces, he should get over himself and stop trying to perv other people.

So, the attorney general of Arkansas is being bullied by a TV show host? First, that’s absurd. But if you believe that, elect a tougher one then. If she can’t handle a single reporter, how can you trust her to prosecute violent criminals?

Actual bullying is when kids are taken out of class by government agents, and their parents investigated for child abuse… just for dressing as the wrong gender.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-child-abuse-investigators-harassed-a-trans-8th-grader-even-after-a-court-told-them-to-stop/ar-AA11Gi0N

[JustinCharge 2,397]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So dogcows is good with sex change operations for children. Got it. I hope he’s happy I didn’t call it mutilation. Even though it is. 

putin gave up on waiting for the gop to ban it, so he is gonna do  it himself shortly.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

MSM has a full plate these days.  

1.  needs to peddle fake news that all republicans are white nationalists.
2.  make people afraid of DeSantis.
3.  Ramp up attacks on Elon Musk now that he owns twitter.
4.  keep news on the war one-sided to help democrats.
5.  cover up Pelosi calling for riots and try to divert the blame on republicans.
6.  ignore Biden gaffes (this takes up the most time).

[Voltaire 5,322]

1 hour ago, dogcows said:

So, the attorney general of Arkansas is being bullied by a TV show host? First, that’s absurd. But if you believe that, elect a tougher one then. If she can’t handle a single reporter, how can you trust her to prosecute violent criminals?

Actual bullying is when kids are taken out of class by government agents, and their parents investigated for child abuse… just for dressing as the wrong gender.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-child-abuse-investigators-harassed-a-trans-8th-grader-even-after-a-court-told-them-to-stop/ar-AA11Gi0N

Or when parents are stripped of the custody of their kids, who is then convinced to transition because a 23 year old trannie with green hair, nose ring, marijuana addiction and a gender studies degree, whose been two weeks into the first job of their life, thinks its the right thing to do.

[dogcows 1,030]

8 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Or when parents are stripped of the custody of their kids, who is then convinced to transition because a 23 year old trannie with green hair, nose ring, marijuana addiction and a gender studies degree, whose been two weeks into the first job of their life, thinks its the right thing to do.

I presented an actual well-documented situation affecting multiple families in Texas. You respond with some weird fantasy you made up? 

[Voltaire 5,322]

1 hour ago, dogcows said:

I presented an actual well-documented situation affecting multiple families in Texas. You respond with some weird fantasy you made up? 

Canada: https://globalnews.ca/news/6399468/bc-gender-change-court/

California:  https://nypost.com/2022/02/26/dad-lost-custody-after-questioning-sons-transgender-identity/

Allah bless this Washington state dad for relocating his family out of state rather than let the perverts cut off his son's pen*s: https://www.city-journal.org/transgender-identifying-adolescents-threats-to-parental-rights

[TimHauck 2,931]

1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

Canada: https://nypost.com/2022/02/26/dad-lost-custody-after-questioning-sons-transgender-identity/

Allah bless this Washington state dad for relocating his family out of state rather than let the perverts cut off his son's pen*s: https://www.city-journal.org/transgender-identifying-adolescents-threats-to-parental-rights

$209k for puberty blockers?  I will admit that I’m sure there is an ulterior motive for some of these clinics or whatever that stand to make a ton of money off of these practices (and I’ve applauded Matt Walsh for attacking that angle), but I don’t necessarily buy that many of these kids really need all that much “convincing” that they want to transition.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

5 hours ago, Voltaire said:

Canada: https://globalnews.ca/news/6399468/bc-gender-change-court/

California:  https://nypost.com/2022/02/26/dad-lost-custody-after-questioning-sons-transgender-identity/

Allah bless this Washington state dad for relocating his family out of state rather than let the perverts cut off his son's pen*s: https://www.city-journal.org/transgender-identifying-adolescents-threats-to-parental-rights

Facial! 

[RLLD 4,255]

Rink

lovely, Twitter is not going to protect the Democrats anymore.  Looks like the new leadership over at CNN is doing the same.

Less disparity in treatment will go long way to restore the integrity of media

[shorepatrol 1,871]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Rink

lovely, Twitter is not going to protect the Democrats anymore.  Looks like the new leadership over at CNN is doing the same.

Less disparity in treatment will go long way to restore the integrity of media

Nazi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RLLD 4,255]

31 minutes ago, shorepatrol said:

Nazi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know right?

I wonder, what if the religious nuts manage to get some power and then got the media et al  to all decide that anything the Democrats say is evil, Facist, worthy of cancel….I wonder how they would handle if it was done to THEM

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

This was pretty funny.

 

[dogcows 1,030]

On 10/30/2022 at 12:51 AM, Voltaire said:

My family will be relocating back to the US in a matter of months and the only places we are considering, exclusively, are the reddest parts of red states. (Spoiler alert: almost surely small town Florida). No offense, but my wife and I both find people with your belief to be culturally repulsive and abhorrent, and we don't want people who harbor such beliefs anywhere near our children: not culturally, socially, nor politically. Just the thought of a flight layover in California makes me ill.

Since life sucks in general, the good news about moving to a red state is that your life expectancy will be shorter.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/27/life-expectancy-us-conservative-liberal-states

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,365]

6 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Since life sucks in general, the good news about moving to a red state is that your life expectancy will be shorter.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/27/life-expectancy-us-conservative-liberal-states

Jeezus is that the garbage you read??  

[Horseman 2,493]

8 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Since life sucks in general, the good news about moving to a red state is that your life expectancy will be shorter.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/27/life-expectancy-us-conservative-liberal-states

[RLLD 4,255]

So Biden stated there were 54 states.....

Isn't this where the Don Lemons and others would be looking forlornly into the camera, if this were Trump, to tell us how troubling this is?

 

[lod001 1,344]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

So Biden stated there were 54 states.....

Isn't this where the Don Lemons and others would be looking forlornly into the camera, if this were Trump, to tell us how troubling this is?

 

Yep. Where they scream that he should be given a cognitive test. 

[lod001 1,344]

21 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Since life sucks in general, the good news about moving to a red state is that your life expectancy will be shorter.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/27/life-expectancy-us-conservative-liberal-states

So what's the difference in life expectancy? 5 hour more, 5 days? 

[dogcows 1,030]

3 minutes ago, lod001 said:

So what's the difference in life expectancy? 5 hour more, 5 days? 

Looks like it can vary a bit, but max 7 years?

Top 3 highest life-expectancy states: Hawaii 82.3, California 81.7, NY 81.4

Bottom 3: Alabama 75.5, Mississippi 74.9, West Virginia 74.8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_life_expectancy

[Horseman 2,493]

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

6 minutes ago, Horseman said:

 

 

Gross. And he said he was going to stop doing that.