paulinstl 295 Posted September 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Casual Observer said: Weren't these jobs filled before the pandemic? Or is this going to be an excuse used by liberals as to why unlimited immigration from Mexico is a good thing? Why does everything have to be political? We are in the midst of a once in a lifetime pandemic. There are still many people that are leery of working in situations with direct contact with others. Why do you think there is a shortage of Uber and taxi drivers and nurses? Great plan, allow people into the country who don't speak English and have them be waiters and waitresses. Politics has nothing to do with this, nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,500 Posted September 20, 2021 23 minutes ago, paulinstl said: Why does everything have to be political? We are in the midst of a once in a lifetime pandemic. There are still many people that are leery of working in situations with direct contact with others. Why do you think there is a shortage of Uber and taxi drivers and nurses? Great plan, allow people into the country who don't speak English and have them be waiters and waitresses. Politics has nothing to do with this, nothing. It isn’t a Once in a lifetime pandemic, politics has made it a pandemic. Covid is here to stay, how long do you want to play the game? Don’t be afraid to see what you see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,528 Posted September 20, 2021 16 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said: Went to a bar the other night...wings were listed at Market Price . Wtf its a chicken wing not lobster. I guess there is a shortage of wings... I worked with a wing place. pre-covid= 40# case was $100 currently= 40# case is around $170-180. they either have to raise prices or change portion size. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,055 Posted September 20, 2021 52 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: It isn’t a Once in a lifetime pandemic, politics has made it a pandemic. Covid is here to stay, how long do you want to play the game? Don’t be afraid to see what you see. Absolutely. You wouldn't have people saying, "Unvaccinated people are Republicans" if this weren't political. Unvaccinated and Republican wouldn't even be in the same sentence if this hadn't become a political virus. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,863 Posted September 20, 2021 4 hours ago, listen2me 23 said: I can see that. But you are saying this phenomenon happened over night? (Within a year) Yeah, it happened when they realized their jobs were not secure since they were all laid off/furloughed in March 2020 (most of which would have happened for at least 6+ weeks regardless of any restrictions that were implemented). Many of which used that time that they didn't have a job to get different education/training or a different job. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,941 Posted September 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Absolutely. You wouldn't have people saying, "Unvaccinated people are Republicans" if this weren't political. Unvaccinated and Republican wouldn't even be in the same sentence if this hadn't become a political virus. That’s just facts. 88% of Dems are vaccinated vs. 55% of Republicans. Only 46% of people who support Trump more than the GOP are vaccinated. Link 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casual Observer 597 Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, paulinstl said: Why does everything have to be political? We are in the midst of a once in a lifetime pandemic. There are still many people that are leery of working in situations with direct contact with others. Why do you think there is a shortage of Uber and taxi drivers and nurses? Great plan, allow people into the country who don't speak English and have them be waiters and waitresses. Politics has nothing to do with this, nothing. Because everything is political. I didn't make it so, but I can't help but notice the anticipated politicization of a topic before it happens. The left is very predictable in this way. The logical conclusion of your comments in this thread is that there are people able to work these jobs, but don't want to be in close proximity to others, though they are not receiving unemployment benefits. There's a hole in that conclusion somewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,500 Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, MDC said: That’s just facts. 88% of Dems are vaccinated vs. 55% of Republicans. Only 46% of people who support Trump more than the GOP are vaccinated. Link It’s a poll and has no facts behind it but believe what you want. The 2 group with the highest unvaccinated rates are Black Americans and people with advanced degrees. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,055 Posted September 20, 2021 3 hours ago, MDC said: That’s just facts. 88% of Dems are vaccinated vs. 55% of Republicans. Only 46% of people who support Trump more than the GOP are vaccinated. Link IMO polls do not equal facts. I'd be interesting in seeing the actual questions on these polls. I know plenty of Republicans (that doesn't mean they are Trump supporters, BTW), that got vaccinated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted September 20, 2021 3 hours ago, MDC said: That’s just facts. 88% of Dems are vaccinated vs. 55% of Republicans. Only 46% of people who support Trump more than the GOP are vaccinated. Link these numbers are completely made up and if you trust them then you may be even more gullible than I thought 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,941 Posted September 20, 2021 Sorry guys. Facts don’t care about your feelings. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,863 Posted September 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Baker Boy said: It’s a poll and has no facts behind it but believe what you want. The 2 group with the highest unvaccinated rates are Black Americans and people with advanced degrees. Link? The only thing I saw on "advanced degrees" being hesitant was based on a facebook poll, and it was only referring to PhD's as being somewhat hesitant. Those with Masters and MD's/JD's were not. And the PhD data was later retracted due to the fact that they couldn't trust the self-reported data from facebook. In addition, even the initial data still showed PhD's as being less hesitant than those living in areas with the 2 highest quartile Trump votes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,055 Posted September 20, 2021 I wonder if paulie still thinks this isn't political? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,086 Posted September 21, 2021 9 hours ago, MDC said: That’s just facts. 88% of Dems are vaccinated vs. 55% of Republicans. Only 46% of people who support Trump more than the GOP are vaccinated. Link That link to a POLL is wack. It’s says 76% of AA’s are vaccinated. it’s widely known the AA community is lagging behind on getting vaccinated. There have been news specials about it on all kinds of networks. https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/569483-why-arent-black-americans-getting-vaccinated https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/07/vaccine-equity-black-americans-biden-491973 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 418 Posted September 21, 2021 17 hours ago, TimHauck said: Yeah, it happened when they realized their jobs were not secure since they were all laid off/furloughed in March 2020 (most of which would have happened for at least 6+ weeks regardless of any restrictions that were implemented). Many of which used that time that they didn't have a job to get different education/training or a different job. Is there data to support this? I don’t wanna throw anecdotal evidence at this in response again, like I did before. The way I understand your position is this: people aren’t driving trucks, warehousing, waiting tables, doing construction, etc because they got better jobs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,570 Posted September 21, 2021 Must be all those new really well paying green energy jobs that are taking our local busboys. Err I mean buspersons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LOD01 194 Posted September 21, 2021 17 hours ago, MDC said: That’s just facts. 88% of Dems are vaccinated vs. 55% of Republicans. Only 46% of people who support Trump more than the GOP are vaccinated. Link What a tard. Polls are useless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,941 Posted September 21, 2021 35 minutes ago, LOD01 said: What a tard. Polls are useless. Your feelings are what matter. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,086 Posted September 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, MDC said: Your feelings are what matter. MDC that poll is wildly flawed. There are two groups who lag behind in vaccinations. Rural community whites and African Americans. They both have one thing in common albeit for different reasons. General distrust of government and/or Big Pharma. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: MDC that poll is wildly flawed. There are two groups who lag behind in vaccinations. Rural community whites and African Americans. They both have one thing in common albeit for different reasons. General distrust of government and/or Big Pharma. More overt racism from cuck, based in fake news. Here are the facts, they may contradict a fake NBC "poll". https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/percent-of-total-population-that-has-received-a-covid-19-vaccine-by-race-ethnicity/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel={"colId":"Location","sort":"asc"} Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,863 Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, MLCKAA said: Is there data to support this? I don’t wanna throw anecdotal evidence at this in response again, like I did before. The way I understand your position is this: people aren’t driving trucks, warehousing, waiting tables, doing construction, etc because they got better jobs. I was mostly referring to the restaurant industry, which seems to be the hardest hit: https://www.nrn.com/workforce/four-reasons-workers-are-staying-away-restaurant-industry-and-what-you-can-do-about-it https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/14/us-restaurant-workers-covid-pandemic-labor-shortages https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/09/17/fast-food-labor-shortage/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,863 Posted September 21, 2021 26 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: MDC that poll is wildly flawed. There are two groups who lag behind in vaccinations. Rural community whites and African Americans. They both have one thing in common albeit for different reasons. General distrust of government and/or Big Pharma. This is a fair statement. But for some reason Republicans (which "rural community whites" overwhelmingly are) don't want to admit that they have low vaccination rates also, instead just saying "but what about the blacks???" 15 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: More overt racism from cuck, based in fake news. Here are the facts, they may contradict a fake NBC "poll". https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/percent-of-total-population-that-has-received-a-covid-19-vaccine-by-race-ethnicity/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel={"colId":"Location","sort":"asc"} Thanks for the data. So 52% vs. 43% for white vs. black, not a crazy difference, and of course the white number is being increased by white Democrats. This is evident because in the Southern states the gap is closer, with blacks actually have a higher percentage vaccinated than whites in Louisiana and Mississippi, and equal in Alabama and West Virginia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,941 Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, KSB2424 said: MDC that poll is wildly flawed. Because there was a problem with the methodology? Or because you don’t like the result? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,170 Posted September 21, 2021 20 hours ago, MDC said: That’s just facts. 88% of Dems are vaccinated vs. 55% of Republicans. Only 46% of people who support Trump more than the GOP are vaccinated. Link True or false? No one asked about party affiliation when getting vaccinated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 295 Posted September 21, 2021 20 hours ago, TheNewGirl said: I wonder if paulie still thinks this isn't political? I was referring to the lack of service workers, nothing more. It's everybody here who wants to make more of it. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,189 Posted September 21, 2021 On 9/20/2021 at 1:46 PM, MDC said: That’s just facts. 88% of Dems are vaccinated vs. 55% of Republicans. Only 46% of people who support Trump more than the GOP are vaccinated. Link Statistical facts only count when you want them to. blacks = bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,086 Posted September 21, 2021 9 hours ago, MDC said: Because there was a problem with the methodology? Or because you don’t like the result? Because the "poll" where they randomly ask people questions normally over a phone is different than hard data. i.e. when you fill out a form before you get vaccinated. I'm just saying as soon as I saw 76% of AA's were vaccinated it was clear as day your link was trash as all other hard data is nowhere even close to that. IIRC I filled out a small form before my vaccination. Name, gender, race, age etc. You know the normal stuff. I don't recall if I had to write down who I voted for. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,086 Posted September 21, 2021 9 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: True or false? No one asked about party affiliation when getting vaccinated. Bingo, I just pointed that out and didn't see your post. They have data based on forms filled out when you get vaccinated. Age, race, ect. A random poll where they call people is trash. Just like the "polls" in 2016 election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyColtsFan 36 Posted September 21, 2021 4 hours ago, paulinstl said: I was referring to the lack of service workers, nothing more. It's everybody here who wants to make more of it. Exactly, because they just want to blame every negative thing on a president who represents the opposing party. The worker shortage in the service industry is people not wanting to work thanks to stimulus checks and unemployment combined with people not coming back to restaurants and doing other things plus the insane demand for workers with so much opening at once. It's similar to car inventory. The pandemic postponed buyer timetables, and then came a buying spree that destroyed inventory. But posters here will jam their square beliefs peg into a round political hole every chance they get and not read past a headline. Dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,941 Posted September 21, 2021 34 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Because the "poll" where they randomly ask people questions normally over a phone is different than hard data. i.e. when you fill out a form before you get vaccinated. I'm just saying as soon as I saw 76% of AA's were vaccinated it was clear as day your link was trash as all other hard data is nowhere even close to that. IIRC I filled out a small form before my vaccination. Name, gender, race, age etc. You know the normal stuff. I don't recall if I had to write down who I voted for. You know that polls are typically conducted by phone with a margin of error right? Okay he difference is that this one made you sad and mad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,941 Posted September 21, 2021 32 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Bingo, I just pointed that out and didn't see your post. They have data based on forms filled out when you get vaccinated. Age, race, ect. A random poll where they call people is trash. Just like the "polls" in 2016 election. The 2016 polls said Hilkary would win the popular vote by 3%. She won it by 2%. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,170 Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, KSB2424 said: Bingo, I just pointed that out and didn't see your post. They have data based on forms filled out when you get vaccinated. Age, race, ect. A random poll where they call people is trash. Just like the "polls" in 2016 election. Yup. All polls are garbage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyColtsFan 36 Posted September 22, 2021 Just now, TBayXXXVII said: Yup. All polls are garbage. That's what she said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,170 Posted September 22, 2021 Just now, IndyColtsFan said: That's what she said. When? That b!tch!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyColtsFan 36 Posted September 22, 2021 Just now, TBayXXXVII said: When? That b!tch!!! When she told me my pole was garbage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted September 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, IndyColtsFan said: When she told me my pole was garbage. She gave you too much credit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,086 Posted September 22, 2021 So @MDC you stand by the 76% of African Americans are vaccinated poll result you posted? I’ll even give you a 5% margin of error both ways. You stand by that? Yes or no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,170 Posted September 22, 2021 28 minutes ago, IndyColtsFan said: When she told me my pole was garbage. Put it in her azz next time then. That'll serve her right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyColtsFan 36 Posted September 22, 2021 58 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Put it in her azz next time then. That'll serve her right. Will do! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,102 Posted September 22, 2021 2 hours ago, MDC said: The 2016 polls said Hilkary would win the popular vote by 3%. She won it by 2%. Just like George H Bush over Clinton? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites