Kyle Rittenhouse trial

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,286]

2 minutes ago, peenie said:

But he didn't live there...

I live in a little town outside Palm Springs, the only city I frequent is about 15 miles away from my house, its called Palm Springs

I even worked in Palm Springs.  But I don't live there so I should watch it burn down

 

[peenie 1,906]

5 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Tell me how that matters

I'm not following this case (nor the Arbery case) and I really don't know the facts, so feel free to educate me. It seems, from the news I heard a while back, that this kid went to a protest with a gun. He wasn't trying to protest with the people but rather harm the people protesting. Sort of like, a black panther party person going to KKK rally, you know, looking for trouble. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,286]

4 minutes ago, peenie said:

I'm not following this case (nor the Arbery case) and I really don't know the facts, so feel free to educate me. It seems, from the news I heard a while back, that this kid went to a protest with a gun. He wasn't trying to protest with the people but rather harm the people protesting. Sort of like, a black panther party person going to KKK rally, you know, looking for trouble. 

this is about the dumbest thing you have said, and you say a lot of uneducated things

here I will lay this out so my 9 year old can understand

Kyle works in Kenosha

Kyle seeing riots in Kenosha where he works, went to town to provide medical aide for RIOTERS

Kyle was threatened numerous times

Kyle gets a rifle to protect himself but still continues to offer aide and get medical help for any injured

Kyle sees a flaming dumpster being pushed towards a gas station

Kyle diverts the dumpster and gets told by the dead dude, if I find you alone I will kill you

Riot chases and threatens Kyle, he retreats

Kyle gets hit over the head multiple times with a skateboard, he defends himself which is his right

Kyle puts his gun down after other dude puts his hands up

Liar on stand yesterday pulls gun and admits Kyle only shot him after he pointed glock at him

are you following yet?

 

[Voltaire 5,273]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

this is about the dumbest thing you have said, and you say a lot of uneducated things

here I will lay this out so my 9 year old can understand

Kyle works in Kenosha

Kyle seeing riots in Kenosha where he works, went to town to provide medical aide for RIOTERS

Kyle was threatened numerous times

Kyle gets a rifle to protect himself but still continues to offer aide and get medical help for any injured

Kyle sees a flaming dumpster being pushed towards a gas station

Kyle diverts the dumpster and gets told by the dead dude, if I find you alone I will kill you

Riot chases and threatens Kyle, he retreats

Kyle gets hit over the head multiple times with a skateboard, he defends himself which is his right

Kyle puts his gun down after other dude puts his hands up

Liar on stand yesterday pulls gun and admits Kyle only shot him after he pointed glock at him

are you following yet?

 

Nice summary. Somebody is paying attention to the details.^^^^

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,286]

3 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Nice summary. Somebody is paying attention to the details.^^^^

minor details

[avoiding injuries 1,545]

3 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Nice summary. Somebody is paying attention to the details.^^^^

The only thing missing to avoid having to read any of this thread is that one of the deceased was a habitual child molester and there are certain posters defending him. 

[Voltaire 5,273]

10 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

The only thing missing to avoid having to read any of this thread is that one of the deceased was a habitual child molester and there are certain posters defending him. 

All three turds shot were criminals with long rap sheets: A child molester, a wife beater, and a burglar were the top of the list. Focking eleven counts of child molestation of the worst kind for wiffleball's boyfriend, why he was out and about and not in prison for life, I have no idea.

[peenie 1,906]

9 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

this is about the dumbest thing you have said, and you say a lot of uneducated things

here I will lay this out so my 9 year old can understand

Kyle works in Kenosha

Kyle seeing riots in Kenosha where he works, went to town to provide medical aide for RIOTERS

Kyle was threatened numerous times

Kyle gets a rifle to protect himself but still continues to offer aide and get medical help for any injured

Kyle sees a flaming dumpster being pushed towards a gas station

Kyle diverts the dumpster and gets told by the dead dude, if I find you alone I will kill you

Riot chases and threatens Kyle, he retreats

Kyle gets hit over the head multiple times with a skateboard, he defends himself which is his right

Kyle puts his gun down after other dude puts his hands up

Liar on stand yesterday pulls gun and admits Kyle only shot him after he pointed glock at him

are you following yet?

 

How can anything I said be dumb when I clearly stated that I'm not following this case and that I don't know any of the facts, just heard a news story a while back? So my Googling showed that:

He was not supposed to be carrying a weapon at age 17 and didn't have a permit to carry.

He drove from his home in Antioch, Ill to Kenosha Wis. Not like he was at work and went to the protest.

Once again, if a black panther party member went to a KKK rally with a gun, would you be so sympathetic? I think not. 

[KSB2424 3,148]

Wow

[Voltaire 5,273]

9 minutes ago, peenie said:

How can anything I said be dumb when I clearly stated that I'm not following this case and that I don't know any of the facts, just heard a news story a while back? So my Googling showed that:

He was not supposed to be carrying a weapon at age 17 and didn't have a permit to carry.

He drove from his home in Antioch, Ill to Kenosha Wis. Not like he was at work and went to the protest.

Once again, if a black panther party member went to a KKK rally with a gun, would you be so sympathetic? I think not. 

It's all the same place, in the Chicago suburbs that roll into each other, where locals pass back and forth across state lines all the time. Also, Kyle worked in Kenosha, twenty minutes from his house.

[TheNewGirl 1,421]

Wow, peenie. 

I can't even. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,286]

4 minutes ago, peenie said:

How can anything I said be dumb when I clearly stated that I'm not following this case and that I don't know any of the facts, just heard a news story a while back? So my Googling showed that:

He was not supposed to be carrying a weapon at age 17 and didn't have a permit to carry.

He drove from his home in Antioch, Ill to Kenosha Wis. Not like he was at work and went to the protest.

Once again, if a black panther party member went to a KKK rally with a gun, would you be so sympathetic? I think not. 

how?  Because you said the kid went to a riot with a gun looking for trouble there is absolutely ZERO evidence even that he opposed the riots whatsoever and had zero political affiliation.  This is what happens when you get your info from only liberal sources

Kids in Wisconsin can carry rifles above age 16, I am a 2A absolutest take that for what its worth

The dude that pointed the gun at him was carrying an illegal firearm as well

this isnt the situation of a KKK member going to a black panther rally

this is the situation of a kid who is trained in life saving and medical techniques carrying a firearm to protect himself cause of all these psychos out there

[peenie 1,906]

Who else died that night besides the people he shot?

I'll wait....

[Cantaloupe 44]

4 minutes ago, peenie said:

Who else died that night besides the people he shot?

I'll wait....

The people he shot were white so why do you care?

[peenie 1,906]

1 minute ago, Cantaloupe Fingerbang said:

The people he shot were white so why do you care?

Why do you care?

[Voltaire 5,273]

5 minutes ago, peenie said:

Who else died that night besides the people he shot?

I don't rightly know. The riots went on for hours, people recorded the events. I watched footage froma link here in the Geek Club, where the antifa rioters were buring and looting cars in a dealership. First you hear, then you see all the windows of cars one after the other after the other being destroyed. Fires buring. No cops anywhere around, they just let the city get destroyed. It was chaos.

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, peenie said:

Who else died that night besides the people he shot?

I'll wait....

Who cares? How many places were started on fire? How many things destroyed? How many people were hurt not defending themselves. 

How many people did Rittenhouse shoot that weren't trying to kick his face in and say they were going to kill him and point guns at him and tell all sorts of shlt about him very threateningly?  

[Cantaloupe 44]

3 minutes ago, peenie said:

Why do you care?

Well you came in saying you know nothing about the trial and then when people give you the facts you argue with them. 

[Gladiators 1,965]

I like peenie.  It's hard to tell if she's trolling, or just that stupid.

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, Gladiators said:

I like peenie.  It's hard to tell if she's trolling, or just that stupid.

She likes to play the "Gee, I don't know anything about it as I don't follow it but it doesn't make sense to me card." 

[peenie 1,906]

Okay, y'all, truth be told, I know absolutely nothing about this case, seriously. I really don't know anything. I have no dog in this fight, I am not on anyone's side. I don't know the details. I really don't care. I'm just arguing to argue, really. I don't even know about the protest or riot, I know nothing. I just Googled something and pulled a fact or two. I will stay out of this discussion. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

Just now, peenie said:

Okay, y'all, truth be told, I know absolutely nothing about this case, seriously. I really don't know anything. I have no dog in this fight, I am not on anyone's side. I don't know the details. I really don't care. I'm just arguing to argue, really. I don't even know about the protest or riot, I know nothing. I just Googled something and pulled a fact or two. I will stay out of this discussion. 

I doubt you pulled a fact. Not even 1. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,118]

50 minutes ago, peenie said:

But he didn't live there...

Why were they rioting again? 

[peenie 1,906]

4 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

I doubt you pulled a fact. Not even 1. 

He was not 18
He didn't live in Kenosha

[Utilit99 4,099]

The prosecution is asking him about video games now. "Isn't the point of first person shooter video games to shoot all the other people with AR15s types of weapons?"

Rittenhouse: "Uh, it's a video game."

 

[peenie 1,906]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Why were they rioting again? 

Have no clue...

[TheNewGirl 1,421]

You guys are idiots if you keep engaging with Peenie. FFS. 

[tubby_mcgee 700]

47 minutes ago, peenie said:

How can anything I said be dumb when I clearly stated that I'm not following this case and that I don't know any of the facts, just heard a news story a while back? So my Googling showed that:

He was not supposed to be carrying a weapon at age 17 and didn't have a permit to carry.

He drove from his home in Antioch, Ill to Kenosha Wis. Not like he was at work and went to the protest.

Once again, if a black panther party member went to a KKK rally with a gun, would you be so sympathetic? I think not. 

Permit? LOL.  You're dumb.  Age to carry a gun?  You're dumb. 

He's allowed to drive to Kenosha. You're dumb.

Black panther member? KKK rally?   WTF.  Dumb.   This is about self defense. 

Additionally,  you just said "I commented before I knew what was going on in the case" ---only a dumb person would do this.  You're dumb.  

 

 

And I'm not saying you're dumb like a kid tells another kid they're dumb.

I'm saying you're dumb, by definition.

 

[tubby_mcgee 700]

Actual testimony from the trial.

 

(Chirafisi = Defense Attorney)

(Grosskreutz  = rioter that got his arm blown apart because he threatened someone's life.)

 

CHIRAFISI: That’s a photo of you, Yes. 

GROSSKREUTZ: Yes. 

CHIRAFISI: That is Mr. Rittenhouse? 

GROSSKREUTZ: Correct. 

CHIRAFISI: Now, You would agree your firearm is pointed at Mr. Rittenhouse correct? 

GROSSKREUTZ: Yes. 

CHIRAFISI: Okay and once your firearm is pointed at Mr. Rittenhouse, that’s when he fires his gun. Yes? 

GROSSKREUTZ: No.

CHIRAFISI: Sir, does this look like right now your arm is being shot? 

GROSSKREUTZ: That looks like my bicep being vaporized, yes. 

CHIRAFISI: OK. And it’s being vaporized as you’re pointing your gun directly at him, yes? 

GROSSKREUTZ: Yes. 

CHIRAFISI: Okay. So, when you were standing three to five feet from him with your arms up in the air, he never fired, right? 

GROSSKREUTZ: Correct. 

CHIRAFISI: It wasn’t until you pointed your gun at him, advanced on him, with your gun — now your hands down, pointed at him — that he fired, right? 

GROSSKREUTZ: Correct. (this is the point when the DA face planted his palm to his forehead -indicating "we're done" - that just proved self-defense to a T"

So that's kind of it right there, that's pretty much the end of the trial, because when someone runs up and points a loaded gun in your face, you are allowed to shoot that person that is called self-defense. That's the rule. It has been the rule throughout human history, in every society on Earth since people lived in caves.

 

Why is this trial still going on after that? 

And funny even after that, you have liberals still siding with the liberal.  LOL.

 

[Vince44 205]

Most pathetic obvious fake ass "crying" on the stand of all time. Not going to help this right wing nut avoid prison where he belongs. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, Vince44 said:

Most pathetic obvious fake ass "crying" on the stand of all time. Not going to help this right wing nut avoid prison where he belongs. 

yeah, people don't get to defend themselves against deadly force in your liberal world. 

That's why so many underage kids get abused by adults. Liberals hide behind "I'm an adult and get to beat the hell out of you until you die."

Idiot.

 

[KSB2424 3,148]

I feel like I live in a completely different reality than some of you folks.  

[peenie 1,906]

11 minutes ago, tubby_mcgee said:

Permit? LOL.  You're dumb.  Age to carry a gun?  You're dumb. 

He's allowed to drive to Kenosha. You're dumb.

Black panther member? KKK rally?   WTF.  Dumb.   This is about self defense. 

Additionally,  you just said "I commented before I knew what was going on in the case" ---only a dumb person would do this.  You're dumb.  

 

 

And I'm not saying you're dumb like a kid tells another kid they're dumb.

I'm saying you're dumb, by definition.

 

Seems to me you're the one getting really upset for no reason and name calling. 
Feel free to show me a fact where he wasn't 17 years old at the night of the protests and shooting where he was not legally allowed to carry a weapon for which he did not have a permit to carry that gun. He can drive wherever he wants, but if he drove across state lines with that gun that was illegal for him to carry then who is the dummy? 

[tubby_mcgee 700]

4 minutes ago, Vince44 said:

Most pathetic obvious fake ass "crying" on the stand of all time. Not going to help this right wing nut avoid prison where he belongs. 

Ahhh... a liberal defending a liberal at all costs. 

Vince44 is the perfect example of sh!tstain of human. 

 

[tubby_mcgee 700]

7 minutes ago, peenie said:

Seems to me you're the one getting really upset for no reason and name calling. 
Feel free to show me a fact where he wasn't 17 years old at the night of the protests and shooting where he was not legally allowed to carry a weapon for which he did not have a permit to carry that gun. He can drive wherever he wants, but if he drove across state lines with that gun that was illegal for him to carry then who is the dummy? 

"Kyle did not carry a gun across state line," L. Lin Wood said in a tweet Friday morning. "The gun belonged to his friend, a Wisconsin resident. The gun never left the state of Wisconsin." 

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2020/08/26/wisconsin-open-carry-law-kyle-rittenhouse-legally-have-gun-kenosha-protest-shooting-17-year-old/3444231001/

 

And if he's hit with a class A misdemeanor...uhh...lol...oooh.  Yay! Liberal victory. 

The real subject is self defense.  Which, you're allowed to do.  

He had a gun pointed at him.  You're saying he should have had to sit there and get shot.  Guess what that makes you?

Dumb. 

 

Again.

[peenie 1,906]

4 minutes ago, tubby_mcgee said:

"Kyle did not carry a gun across state line," L. Lin Wood said in a tweet Friday morning. "The gun belonged to his friend, a Wisconsin resident. The gun never left the state of Wisconsin." 

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2020/08/26/wisconsin-open-carry-law-kyle-rittenhouse-legally-have-gun-kenosha-protest-shooting-17-year-old/3444231001/

 

And if he's hit with a class A misdemeanor...uhh...lol...oooh.  Yay! Liberal victory. 

The real subject is self defense.  Which, you're allowed to do.  

He got a gun pointed at him.  You're saying he should have had to sit there and get shot.  Guess what that makes you?

Dumb. 

 

Again.

Of course he has the right to defend himself. If everyone he shot had a gun pointed at him, then why is he on trial? <This is me telling you I have no idea what happened. I'm not dumb, I just don't know. Were the other victims pointing a gun at him? By other victims, I mean the dead ones. 

[Strike 5,328]

51 minutes ago, Gladiators said:

I like peenie.  It's hard to tell if she's trolling, or just that stupid.

She can't be both?

[RLLD 4,178]

None of those people were supposed to be out there that night, but because this guy defended himself from liberal violence he is being held accountable.

 

[Utilit99 4,099]

9 minutes ago, peenie said:

Of course he has the right to defend himself. If everyone he shot had a gun pointed at him, then why is he on trial? <This is me telling you I have no idea what happened. I'm not dumb, I just don't know. Were the other victims pointing a gun at him? By other victims, I mean the dead ones. 

No such thing as someone being beat to death by getting their face kicked in.

One MUST always tolerate this.

[Voltaire 5,273]

23 minutes ago, peenie said:

Of course he has the right to defend himself. If everyone he shot had a gun pointed at him, then why is he on trial? <This is me telling you I have no idea what happened. I'm not dumb, I just don't know. Were the other victims pointing a gun at him? By other victims, I mean the dead ones. 

The first deceased was chasing Kyle and grabbing for Kyle's gun, was close enough to have gunpowder on his hands. The second deceased kocked Kyle down with a skateboard. The third put his hand up and so wasn't shot, but then changed his mind and then pointed his gun at Kyle, which was the point when Kyle shot him in the arm. All three chased Kyle and intitiated contact.