Failure of the public education system

[Cloaca du jour 2,147]

Education is dying due to complete disengagement by parents who think school is like it was 30yrs ago.  They get snippets of news feeds and facebook posts.  Have never attended a parent teacher conference...never question the fs on report cards.  School administration just does whatever to keep parents from suing, as well as keeping that 150k a year job for doing nothing.

[The Real timschochet 6,430]

26 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said:

Education is dying due to complete disengagement by parents who think school is like it was 30yrs ago.  They get snippets of news feeds and facebook posts.  Have never attended a parent teacher conference...never question the fs on report cards.  School administration just does whatever to keep parents from suing, as well as keeping that 150k a year job for doing nothing.

Education is not close to dying. 

[seafoam1 2,803]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Education is not close to dying. 

Correct. It's been dead for a long while now.

[The Real timschochet 6,430]

2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Correct. It's been dead for a long while now.

News to my daughter who just started teaching this year. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,941]

Obama’s dear colleague letter has directly led to more school violence and less discipline.  

[Voltaire 5,202]

Dying is a stretch. Education is vitally, crucially important but under pressure between lower standards and wokeness and teachers unions and figuring out how to adapt technology and whatnot. 

[Cloaca du jour 2,147]

5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Education is not close to dying. 

Ignorance is bliss

[Cloaca du jour 2,147]

5 hours ago, Voltaire said:

Dying is a stretch. Education is vitally, crucially important but under pressure between lower standards and wokeness and teachers unions and figuring out how to adapt technology and whatnot. 

I mean dying as good old true education...designed to make productive americans.  Education is a hollowed husk of what it used to be.    It has been so poisoned by all these "scams" that cause districts to spend 1000s chasing the dragon while out of touch parents.  See how many kids know their times tables...can read a clock with hands on it.  

Its all smoke and mirrors now.  Grades are more important than actual learning.

[League Champion 1,896]

6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

my daughter who just started teaching this year. 

Ohh Lord

[League Champion 1,896]

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,941]

3 hours ago, League Champion said:

 

15-1 student to teacher ratio. 63 pct are proficient in math, 77 pct in reading. That’s disgraceful. Maybe get those numbers up, considering the student / teacher ratio before giving a shitt about some decorations. 

[TimHauck 2,621]

 

 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

14 hours ago, TimHauck said:

 

 

He trolled you and you ate it like cake fatboy.

[RLLD 4,143]

Education can still work for you, but you have to put in the work as well.

As a parent you cannot sit back and believe your child is being properly education, you have to be actively involved every day with them. Spending time with them and helping them learn is more important than sending them to school.  

If you sense your child is not being properly instructed then engage with the teacher respectfully to learn a little more. If it becomes clear you do not have quality instruction being provided for your child request a change with the school, and if they refuse then you have to step up even more.

Moreover, if you get some sense that they are indoctrinating your kid then you have to counter that. Help them understand how to placate the activist teacher, while you teach them properly. 

If you have to change schools....as much as that might suck, try to do that. Kid deserve our protection.  From criminals, predators, government and activists.

[Cloaca du jour 2,147]

Some schools are advertising an "adult" in every classroom.  Not even a certified teacher.

[RLLD 4,143]

48 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said:

Some schools are advertising an "adult" in every classroom.  Not even a certified teacher.

I am still on the email list for the local counter Board of Ed and get plenty of emails from them just begging for substitutes and relating a rapid response to get more teachers, because apparently they are seriously under staffed.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,941]

I worked at one of our elite private colleges for two years. I can assure you that putting in the work is not necessary.  

[MDC 7,133]

Elite private colleges should ask the buttfock rent-a-cop on staff for pointers.  

[RLLD 4,143]

US companies increasingly eliminate college degrees as a requirement amid 'out-of-control' school costs

This could help lower costs, I see it as a plus.  And if it eliminated many of the more "woke" ones then we can all see more than just financial improvements. 

[MDC 7,133]

7 minutes ago, RLLD said:

US companies increasingly eliminate college degrees as a requirement amid 'out-of-control' school costs

This could help lower costs, I see it as a plus.  And if it eliminated many of the more "woke" ones then we can all see more than just financial improvements. 

This is a great idea. Most corporate jobs can be taught without any formal secondary education. And businesses that hire HS grads without a college degree will probably have a more loyal workforce. They’re also drawing talent from the 60% of adults who don’t have a college degree.

[RLLD 4,143]

6 minutes ago, MDC said:

This is a great idea. Most corporate jobs can be taught without any formal secondary education. And businesses that hire HS grads without a college degree will probably have a more loyal workforce. They’re also drawing talent from the 60% of adults who don’t have a college degree.

Agree on your points here

[RLLD 4,143]

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[Fireballer 2,639]

2 hours ago, RLLD said:

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She has succumb to whiteness, obviously.

[DonS 3,292]

3 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

She has succumb to whiteness, obviously.

What's the female equivalent of Uncle Tom?  Is it Aunt Jemima? 

[frank 2,276]

On 12/26/2023 at 12:37 PM, RLLD said:

US companies increasingly eliminate college degrees as a requirement amid 'out-of-control' school costs

This could help lower costs, I see it as a plus.  And if it eliminated many of the more "woke" ones then we can all see more than just financial improvements. 

We don’t need no education?

 

[Baker Boy 1,688]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/public-school-consultant-calls-destruction-america-trying-end-yall

Woke Kindergarten' teacher calls for destruction of America: 'We've been trying to end y'all'

The public school consultant said that there are extraterrestrial beings that are 'oppressed'

[edjr 6,578]

On 12/17/2023 at 10:22 AM, Cloaca du jour said:

Education is dying due to complete disengagement by parents who think school is like it was 30yrs ago.  They get snippets of news feeds and facebook posts.  Have never attended a parent teacher conference...never question the fs on report cards.  School administration just does whatever to keep parents from suing, as well as keeping that 150k a year job for doing nothing.

Education is dying because teachers got lazy due to covid. my kid is in 5th grade. Hasn't had homework in 3 years. 

[RLLD 4,143]

15 minutes ago, edjr said:

Education is dying because teachers got lazy due to covid. my kid is in 5th grade. Hasn't had homework in 3 years. 

Perhaps in part.... I think there are a variety of factors, and I might point also toward the attempts to "improve" education and how kids are taught as another key source, but also too the absolute failure of parenting.....

[Hardcore troubadour 14,941]

1 hour ago, Baker Boy said:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/public-school-consultant-calls-destruction-america-trying-end-yall

Woke Kindergarten' teacher calls for destruction of America: 'We've been trying to end y'all'

The public school consultant said that there are extraterrestrial beings that are 'oppressed'

 

 

Yeah but it’s not CRT. CRT is a college level course. 

[BuckSwope 654]

56 minutes ago, edjr said:

Education is dying because teachers got lazy due to covid. my kid is in 5th grade. Hasn't had homework in 3 years. 

Is it being lazy, or afraid of being called a racist for assigning homework?  

[Baker Boy 1,688]

1 hour ago, edjr said:

Education is dying because teachers got lazy due to covid. my kid is in 5th grade. Hasn't had homework in 3 years. 

Education is dying because of the teacher’s unions

[edjr 6,578]

1 minute ago, BuckSwope said:

Is it being lazy, or afraid of being called a racist for assigning homework?  

my home town is 92% white

[BuckSwope 654]

1 minute ago, edjr said:

my home town is 92% white

Ok.   My sarcastic question still applies.   

[frank 2,276]

8 hours ago, edjr said:

Education is dying because teachers got lazy due to covid. my kid is in 5th grade. Hasn't had homework in 3 years. 

Your dog must be starving. 

[RLLD 4,143]

21 hours ago, Baker Boy said:

Education is dying because of the teacher’s unions

In part.....yes.....but in a larger part its the over-reliance on government and the education system.  Parents hand their kids off and assume "it will be done"......which is farcical.....

Being a parents often means hours of instruction each night.  The kids who receive this "privilege" out perform those who do not have this.

But beyond the academics is teach them life as well.   How to not be a dumbass, how to avoid simple mistakes, and then how to manage money, invest, handle civics etc.

If you want the biggest bite for improvement, parents are the key

[Baker Boy 1,688]

22 minutes ago, RLLD said:

In part.....yes.....but in a larger part its the over-reliance on government and the education system.  Parents hand their kids off and assume "it will be done"......which is farcical.....

Being a parents often means hours of instruction each night.  The kids who receive this "privilege" out perform those who do not have this.

But beyond the academics is teach them life as well.   How to not be a dumbass, how to avoid simple mistakes, and then how to manage money, invest, handle civics etc.

If you want the biggest bite for improvement, parents are the key

Nothing is going to change without school choice.

[Cloaca du jour 2,147]

23 hours ago, edjr said:

Education is dying because teachers got lazy due to covid. my kid is in 5th grade. Hasn't had homework in 3 years. 

Stupidest statement ever

[RLLD 4,143]

29 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Nothing is going to change without school choice.

School choice would absolutely work, but is not a silver bullet. 

The teachers and their union rightfully are terrified of the idea, as it would ultimately hold them accountable....

BUT......school choice would have to bring with it special accommodation for the damage done.  We would simply HAVE to include additional funding for the gaps created in progress by poisonous parenting and an educational system that has lost  its way.

[Fireballer 2,639]

Well, at least this one admits it…fuckin POS.  Can we drop the “nobody wants to sexualize kids” narrative?

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,941]

1 hour ago, Fireballer said:

Well, at least this one admits it…fuckin POS.  Can we drop the “nobody wants to sexualize kids” narrative?

 

Some dad, some where is going to take matters into his own hands. It’s inevitable.