Voltaire 5,280 Posted April 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Do you root for everyone to loses their jobs whose ideology you disagree with? Or just Disney employees? Generally no, especially considering what happened to myself. But people corrupting society in leftoid media are the exception. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,002 Posted April 23, 2023 35 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Here's your problem. You mention 2 woke movies bombing and then say the response to this is layoffs. Thats completely false. Only a child would draw this conclusion, come on man, be better. Disney movies are rebounding in 2023 after a few down years. https://variety.com/2023/film/news/disney-box-office-billion-dollar-mark-avatar-2-1235528694/ And the prospects look good. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/18/disney-shares-set-to-rise-30percent-on-strong-film-slate-deutsche-bank-says.html The layoffs are a response to operating costs, not lack of revenue from 2 movies. https://www.npr.org/2023/03/29/1166719634/disney-plans-to-cut-3-of-the-entertainment-giant-s-total-global-workforce Disney is restructuring to reduce costs in an effort to boost shareholder value. Everyone does this as needed. I don't know why you decided to start posting in this thread, but you should go back to sitting this one out. You're out of your league. Please educate yourself. 2 movies? GTFO you disingenuous moron. Where do you think that money comes from to spend on "operating costs"? The magical money fairy? You're an idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,280 Posted April 23, 2023 Disney content to be decided by parents making movies for their kids to enjoy. Now it's run by 35 year old LGBTQ adolescents who refuse to grow up making content for themselves. So good luck figuring out how to get the real life fairies to release their grip on the magic. I'll be over here, not buying it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,966 Posted April 23, 2023 38 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Generally no, especially considering what happened to myself. But people corrupting society in leftoid media are the exception. It's okay to disagree with a company and not wish people that work there to lose their jobs. 31 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Disney content to be decided by parents making movies for their kids to enjoy. Now it's run by 35 year old LGBTQ adolescents who refuse to grow up making content for themselves. So good luck figuring out how to get the real life fairies to release their grip on the magic. I'll be over here, not buying it. Pretty sure 35 year old LGBTQ people have kids too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,966 Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, GutterBoy said: Here's your problem. You mention 2 woke movies bombing and then say the response to this is layoffs. Thats completely false. Only a child would draw this conclusion, come on man, be better. Disney movies are rebounding in 2023 after a few down years. https://variety.com/2023/film/news/disney-box-office-billion-dollar-mark-avatar-2-1235528694/ And the prospects look good. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/18/disney-shares-set-to-rise-30percent-on-strong-film-slate-deutsche-bank-says.html The layoffs are a response to operating costs, not lack of revenue from 2 movies. https://www.npr.org/2023/03/29/1166719634/disney-plans-to-cut-3-of-the-entertainment-giant-s-total-global-workforce Disney is restructuring to reduce costs in an effort to boost shareholder value. Everyone does this as needed. I don't know why you decided to start posting in this thread, but you should go back to sitting this one out. You're out of your league. Please educate yourself. Not to mention- the first Frozen came out in 2013. By the time like 2014 rolled around people were whining and complaining about Elsa being a lesbian and how dare Disney. The movie made 1.256 billion worldwide. Then when Frozen 2 came out in 2019 there was all kinds of talk that Elsa was a "queer icon" from the dopey left and people tried to protest against the movie because how dare Disney. That movie made 1.437 billion worldwide. Now those movies were both pre pandemic. Frozen 3 will be interesting because the movie theater experience seems to be recovering some as the box office has been really good for the most part since 2023 started. 2021 saw only 11 films go over the 100 million dollar domestic mark. 2022 saw 18 go over that mark. We are at 7 already and not out of April yet with a ton of big releases to come and March was the biggest month at the box office in a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 720 Posted April 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: It's okay to disagree with a company and not wish people that work there to lose their jobs. Pretty sure 35 year old LGBTQ people have kids too. It's also ok to wish them to loose their jobs if they push a sick, immoral ideology. Yeah....35 year old LGBTQ people have kids......I'm especially fascinated by the ones that all 3 kids are trans, or gay or non binary.....I mean, from a scientific viewpoint.......how could one not be fascinated at a 100% statistical deviation from the norm? SCIENCE!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,716 Posted April 23, 2023 Is there any legitimate source claiming Elsa is going to come out as gay in Frozen 3 or is this all just speculation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,093 Posted April 23, 2023 I like Disney we go all the time. Yes they show some chicks kissing and there have been gays but my kids see that crap everyday in our public schools. When they start having drag shows for kids I’m out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,093 Posted April 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, Nomad99 said: It's also ok to wish them to loose their jobs if they push a sick, immoral ideology. Yeah....35 year old LGBTQ people have kids......I'm especially fascinated by the ones that all 3 kids are trans, or gay or non binary.....I mean, from a scientific viewpoint.......how could one not be fascinated at a 100% statistical deviation from the norm? SCIENCE!!!! There are 2 sisters in my daughters classes who claim to be lesbo. Their 19 year old sister is a lesbian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,280 Posted April 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: It's okay to disagree with a company and not wish people that work there to lose their jobs. Pretty sure 35 year old LGBTQ people have kids too. One of the major saving graces providing hope for the future of the country, for me the top one, is the huge birthrate discrepancy between conservative and liberal parents. Liberal birthrates are abysmal. Here's the first study I could find doing a search: https://www.aei.org/articles/the-conservative-fertility-advantage/ But then, anecdotally, while watching that leaked Disney executive meeting where the top officials discuss how they are flooding their content with LGBTQ propaganda, I really found it telling that the ones who did mention having kids themselves many, maybe all, had transgender kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,224 Posted April 23, 2023 Frozen 2 made 122 million in China. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted April 23, 2023 38 minutes ago, Nomad99 said: It's also ok to wish them to loose their jobs if they push a sick, immoral ideology. Yeah....35 year old LGBTQ people have kids......I'm especially fascinated by the ones that all 3 kids are trans, or gay or non binary.....I mean, from a scientific viewpoint.......how could one not be fascinated at a 100% statistical deviation from the norm? SCIENCE!!!! There are people that work for Disney or are contracted to Disney that don't push sick immoral ideology. People realize this right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,191 Posted April 23, 2023 https://www.westernjournal.com/report-disney-lost-quarter-billion-dollars-two-woke-failures/ If I were invested in Disney, and happily I am not, this would be unsettling. one must wonder How long these companies can pander to a tiny segment of mentally I’ll people and suffer these losses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,704 Posted April 23, 2023 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: Strange World was woke and sure that was probably part of the reason it sucked. But Lightyear wasn’t really woke, it just sucked because it was a weird spinoff that had almost nothing to do with what it was spinning off from Wasn't there a same sex kiss in the latest Lightyear? And did that limit its distribution? If so, that would seem to be a direct tie between wokeness and revenue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,716 Posted April 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Wasn't there a same sex kiss in the latest Lightyear? And did that limit its distribution? If so, that would seem to be a direct tie between wokeness and revenue. Worldwide revenue yes. But you said “it bombed,” typically that is referring to US performance which had little if anything to do with a 1 second kiss. It just wasn’t a very good movie. And there was only one Lightyear, not a “latest” one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,585 Posted April 23, 2023 I don’t understand this thing about explaining LGTBQ to young kids. GAYS: “Most kids have a mommy and a daddy. Some kids have just a mommy or just a daddy. Some kids have two daddies and some kids have two mommies. And they all love their kids just like I love you.” TRANS: “Sometimes boys decide they want to be girls. Sometimes girls decide they want to be boys. It’s a very important decision that only that person can make. We need to respect it when somebody makes that decision.” DRAG: “Some grownup guys like to dress like women. Drag queens do it for fun and to entertain the rest of us.” Why is any of this so difficult? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,224 Posted April 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I don’t understand this thing about explaining LGTBQ to young kids. GAYS: “Most kids have a mommy and a daddy. Some kids have just a mommy or just a daddy. Some kids have two daddies and some kids have two mommies. And they all love their kids just like I love you.” TRANS: “Sometimes boys decide they want to be girls. Sometimes girls decide they want to be boys. It’s a very important decision that only that person can make. We need to respect it when somebody makes that decision.” DRAG: “Some grownup guys like to dress like women. Drag queens do it for fun and to entertain the rest of us.” Why is any of this so difficult? My kid is a kid that likes kids stuff. I’ll tell them about it when I want. Not when you want. Thanks. Also don’t talk to kids that aren’t yours about any of this stuff. You might have to explain yourself to an angry father. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,966 Posted April 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Frozen 2 made 122 million in China. Frozen 1 made 48 million in China. Frozen 2 made almost 200 million more worldwide after 5 years of guessing at Elsa's sexuality. Numbers, logic, reason are all against you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,966 Posted April 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Voltaire said: One of the major saving graces providing hope for the future of the country, for me the top one, is the huge birthrate discrepancy between conservative and liberal parents. Liberal birthrates are abysmal. Here's the first study I could find doing a search: https://www.aei.org/articles/the-conservative-fertility-advantage/ But then, anecdotally, while watching that leaked Disney executive meeting where the top officials discuss how they are flooding their content with LGBTQ propaganda, I really found it telling that the ones who did mention having kids themselves many, maybe all, had transgender kids. I have a kid who is very much Disney show movie age and another who is closer to the top end of the age range. We see plenty of Disney (and non Disney) kids content. Can you outline for me what are all the shows that are flooded with LGBTQ content? 54 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Worldwide revenue yes. But you said “it bombed,” typically that is referring to US performance which had little if anything to do with a 1 second kiss. It just wasn’t a very good movie. And there was only one Lightyear, not a “latest” one. Yes- we've talked about this many times in this thread. Jerry can't click back to look. It's hard. You saw our imagined conversation right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted April 23, 2023 This is the thread where bigotry and lies keeps getting its ass kicked. I love it. Keep it up morons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,642 Posted April 23, 2023 45 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I don’t understand this thing about explaining LGTBQ to young kids. GAYS: “Most kids have a mommy and a daddy. Some kids have just a mommy or just a daddy. Some kids have two daddies and some kids have two mommies. And they all love their kids just like I love you.” TRANS: “Sometimes boys decide they want to be girls. Sometimes girls decide they want to be boys. It’s a very important decision that only that person can make. We need to respect it when somebody makes that decision.” DRAG: “Some grownup guys like to dress like women. Drag queens do it for fun and to entertain the rest of us.” Why is any of this so difficult? Man, I can see why so many people have fūcked up kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted April 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, nobody said: Man, I can see why so many people have fūcked up kids. Every day in your mirror Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,704 Posted April 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Nomad99 said: It's also ok to wish them to loose their jobs if they push a sick, immoral ideology. Yeah....35 year old LGBTQ people have kids......I'm especially fascinated by the ones that all 3 kids are trans, or gay or non binary.....I mean, from a scientific viewpoint.......how could one not be fascinated at a 100% statistical deviation from the norm? SCIENCE!!!! There is no environmental impact, Gutter said so. Those kids were all predestined to be on the spectrum by an angry god who likes to molest children. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,093 Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: Wasn't there a same sex kiss in the latest Lightyear? And did that limit its distribution? If so, that would seem to be a direct tie between wokeness and revenue. It was a peck it’s not like the chicks were swallowing each others tongues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,704 Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Dizkneelande said: It was a peck it’s not like the chicks were swallowing each others tongues. Did it limit distribution? If so, maybe some cultures don't agree with this statement, and to my point, it impacted revenue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,093 Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: Did it limit distribution? If so, maybe some cultures don't agree with this statement, and to my point, it impacted revenue. True. I didn’t think it was that bad of a movie as far as animated kids Disney movies go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,704 Posted April 23, 2023 4 hours ago, GutterBoy said: Here's your problem. You mention 2 woke movies bombing and then say the response to this is layoffs. Thats completely false. Only a child would draw this conclusion, come on man, be better. Disney movies are rebounding in 2023 after a few down years. https://variety.com/2023/film/news/disney-box-office-billion-dollar-mark-avatar-2-1235528694/ And the prospects look good. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/18/disney-shares-set-to-rise-30percent-on-strong-film-slate-deutsche-bank-says.html The layoffs are a response to operating costs, not lack of revenue from 2 movies. https://www.npr.org/2023/03/29/1166719634/disney-plans-to-cut-3-of-the-entertainment-giant-s-total-global-workforce Disney is restructuring to reduce costs in an effort to boost shareholder value. Everyone does this as needed. I don't know why you decided to start posting in this thread, but you should go back to sitting this one out. You're out of your league. Please educate yourself. Actually, my problem is that when I provide actual data for financial losses, you tell me it has no impact whatsoever. I never said your strawman of my position that wokism is 100% responsible for their problems. I merely said it was an impact. And pro tip: sometimes lower revenues impact your need to reduce operating costs. Also I can't access your CNBC link, but does this strong film slate have a bevy of LGBTQ characters/plots? Tell me that you understand that losing hundreds of millions of dollars impacted their financials in a non-negligible way and we are good. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,704 Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: I don’t understand this thing about explaining LGTBQ to young kids. GAYS: “Most kids have a mommy and a daddy. Some kids have just a mommy or just a daddy. Some kids have two daddies and some kids have two mommies. And they all love their kids just like I love you.” TRANS: “Sometimes boys decide they want to be girls. Sometimes girls decide they want to be boys. It’s a very important decision that only that person can make. We need to respect it when somebody makes that decision.” DRAG: “Some grownup guys like to dress like women. Drag queens do it for fun and to entertain the rest of us.” Why is any of this so difficult? I think it is totally appropriate to tell a young child that boys can decide to be girls and vice versa. After all, they aren't looking for guidance from adults, nay, it is we adults who need to get guidance from the wisdom of those children. It won't confuse them at all, and they will appreciate the autonomy we give them, just like they'll appreciate going to big kids school next year without naps. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,704 Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: Worldwide revenue yes. But you said “it bombed,” typically that is referring to US performance which had little if anything to do with a 1 second kiss. It just wasn’t a very good movie. And there was only one Lightyear, not a “latest” one. Thank you for the Hauckian definition of "bombed," and the royal decree that that wasn't a problem. BTW I haven't seen it, or any of the Frozens, my kids are adults. I'm not coming from some personal bias one way or another on the cringiness of the kiss. I'm merely saying that it happened and there were financial consequences. I wouldn't think this would be that hard of a concept, given the financial data, but here we are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,224 Posted April 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said: Frozen 1 made 48 million in China. Frozen 2 made almost 200 million more worldwide after 5 years of guessing at Elsa's sexuality. Numbers, logic, reason are all against you. Frozen 3 won’t be making any money in China. That’s the point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,002 Posted April 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Frozen 3 won’t be making any money in China. That’s the point. This is amusing. GutterPedo, Mooney and Hauck literally can't do math. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 720 Posted April 23, 2023 2 hours ago, jerryskids said: There is no environmental impact, Gutter said so. Those kids were all predestined to be on the spectrum by an angry god who likes to molest children. I wonder if the serpent in the garden of eden was Eve's schlong......... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 720 Posted April 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Dizkneelande said: There are 2 sisters in my daughters classes who claim to be lesbo. Their 19 year old sister is a lesbian. Rite? 100% deviation.........in any other topic.......the world scientific community would gather in Helsinki & war game a solution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,641 Posted April 23, 2023 5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: I don’t understand this thing about explaining LGTBQ to young kids. GAYS: “Most kids have a mommy and a daddy. Some kids have just a mommy or just a daddy. Some kids have two daddies and some kids have two mommies. And they all love their kids just like I love you.” TRANS: “Sometimes boys decide they want to be girls. Sometimes girls decide they want to be boys. It’s a very important decision that only that person can make. We need to respect it when somebody makes that decision.” DRAG: “Some grownup guys like to dress like women. Drag queens do it for fun and to entertain the rest of us.” Why is any of this so difficult? What is the point of discussing this with kids? And now being trans is just a “decision”? Why not explain that if these kids aren’t allowed to transition that they will probably commit suicide? Too heavy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted April 23, 2023 3 hours ago, jerryskids said: Actually, my problem is that when I provide actual data for financial losses, you tell me it has no impact whatsoever. I never said your strawman of my position that wokism is 100% responsible for their problems. I merely said it was an impact. And pro tip: sometimes lower revenues impact your need to reduce operating costs. Also I can't access your CNBC link, but does this strong film slate have a bevy of LGBTQ characters/plots? Tell me that you understand that losing hundreds of millions of dollars impacted their financials in a non-negligible way and we are good. How Much money would those 2 movies have made if they were not woke? Keep in mind Disney made 87B last year. They want to cut $5.5B off their expenses. Remove the wokeness from those two movies and then tell me what impact that has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted April 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Frozen 3 won’t be making any money in China. That’s the point. It's hasn't even been made yet, you don't know sh1t 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,224 Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: How Much money would those 2 movies have made if they were not woke? Keep in mind Disney made 87B last year. They want to cut $5.5B off their expenses. Remove the wokeness from those two movies and then tell me what impact that has. Don’t forget the 2.4 million subscribers to Disney + they lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,224 Posted April 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: It's hasn't even been made yet, you don't know sh1t Well, if it goes woke then I have a pretty good idea it would seem. And if it doesn’t good. Bought time they were brought to heel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted April 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Don’t forget the 2.4 million subscribers to Disney + they lost. Did 2.4M people unsubscribe because of woke? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,224 Posted April 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Did 2.4M people unsubscribe because of woke? Maybe some of them did. I did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites