5-Points 2,745 Posted May 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Cdub100 said: Can't wait for a vaccine that's 99.78% effective then 78% then 50% then it doesn't prevent you from getting sick but you have less symptoms then yeah it actually totally fades away 7 days after getting it but you have a increased chance of heart issues. You're welcome. Congratulations on being part of the control group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: Can't wait for a vaccine that's 99.78% effective then 78% then 50% then it doesn't prevent you from getting sick but you have less symptoms then yeah it actually totally fades away 7 days after getting it but you have a increased chance of heart issues. You're welcome. And every step of the way people are saying it's doing exactly what it's supposed to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,830 Posted May 21, 2022 43 minutes ago, 5-Points said: Plenty of current vaccines are effective against past and future variants of current and future viruses. But if we can't scare the public into thinking this new "scare" is "new" then we can't scare them into taking an already proven medication that has been renamed and made to be more expensive. Joe Rogan proved you wrong and the disinformation attack that followed didn't make a difference for those of us who think for ourselves. Wake me when the platypus pox arises. Are you talking about ivermectin? Spit it out. Because what ivermectin is effective against is nothing like Covid. The closest thing to Covid was SARS-1 and I believe info from that was used to create the Covid vaccines. 42 minutes ago, 5-Points said: Because they're the same. They’re not though. 40 minutes ago, 5-Points said: Congratulations on being part of the control group. He’s not though, he’s vaccinated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,745 Posted May 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Are you talking about ivermectin? Spit it out. Because what ivermectin is effective against is nothing like Covid. The closest thing to Covid was SARS-1 and I believe info from that was used to create the Covid vaccines. They’re not though. He’s not though, he’s vaccinated. I don't give a sh!t. I haven't been vaxxed, revaxxed, boosted, reboosted, re-reboosted after having been triple vaxxed... still healthy as a horse. And I've been out in public everyday since this buIIshit started. It's all buIIshit and it won't end until sane people tell the WHO to go fock themselves. Let me be the first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,830 Posted May 21, 2022 1 minute ago, 5-Points said: I don't give a sh!t. I haven't been vaxxed, revaxxed, boosted, reboosted, re-reboosted after having been triple vaxxed... still healthy as a horse. And I've been out in public everyday since this buIIshit started. It's all buIIshit and it won't end until sane people tell the WHO to go fock themselves. Let me be the first. Well congrats, you’ve completely changed the subject from “it’s a shame we didn’t use proven effective preventatives/combatants against Covid” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,745 Posted May 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Well congrats, you’ve completely changed the subject from “it’s a shame we didn’t use proven effective preventatives/combatants against Covid” No, I just brought it back to the age old proven method of letting your immune system take care of it. Survival of the fittest. It's the way of the world. I'm not the one trying to control natural selection. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,408 Posted May 21, 2022 40 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Are you talking about ivermectin? Spit it out. Because what ivermectin is effective against is nothing like Covid. The closest thing to Covid was SARS-1 and I believe info from that was used to create the Covid vaccines. They’re not though. He’s not though, he’s vaccinated. That's correct my government threatened to fire me unless I took the vaccine. The court order came too late for me. Funny thing is unvaccinated people still aren't allowed to go TDY. Oh well they can still come into the office take vacation and fly any where want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,400 Posted May 21, 2022 F'n morons with their Monkey Pox this is what they do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,745 Posted May 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Well congrats, you’ve completely changed the subject from “it’s a shame we didn’t use proven effective preventatives/combatants against Covid” are you calling Joe Rogan a liar? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,071 Posted May 21, 2022 Ivermectin is used all over the world...many countries administer it semiannually to prevent debilitating parasitic infections in HUMANS!! Usa doesnt have alot of parasitic infections.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,283 Posted May 21, 2022 6 hours ago, Baker Boy said: Monkeypox | Poxvirus | CDC https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox Monkeypox was first discovered in 1958 when two outbreaks of a pox-like disease occurred in colonies of monkeys kept for research, hence the name ‘monkeypox.’ The first human case of monkeypox was recorded in 1970 in the Democratic Republic of Congo during a period of intensified effort to eliminate smallpox. ———————- Human monkeypox was first identified in humans in 1970 in the Democratic Republic of the Congo in a 9-year-old boy in a region where smallpox had been eliminated in 1968. Since then, most cases have been reported from rural, rainforest regions of the Congo Basin, particularly in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and human cases have increasingly been reported from across Central and West Africa. https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/monkeypox#:~:text=Signs and Symptoms Focking liberal Democrats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,745 Posted May 21, 2022 31 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Well congrats, you’ve completely changed the subject from “it’s a shame we didn’t use proven effective preventatives/combatants against Covid” No, I didn't. We had them and we didn't use them. You tell me why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,745 Posted May 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Cloaca du jour said: Ivermectin is used all over the world...many countries administer it semiannually to prevent debilitating parasitic infections in HUMANS!! Usa doesnt have alot of parasitic infections.. Yes we do. They're called liberals. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,745 Posted May 21, 2022 16 minutes ago, Big Guy said: F'n morons with their Monkey Pox this is what they do will America ever get tired of the next scare tease? "Monkey Pox, Could it be in your neighborhood? Tune in at 11:00 to find out!" That's nowhere near here. :kicksrocks: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,830 Posted May 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, 5-Points said: are you calling Joe Rogan a liar? Huh? First of all, my main point was to combat your claim that we should have used “proven effective treatments,” as the stuff that ivermectin is proven effective against is nothing like covid. Maybe we should just give ivermectin to the people with monkey pox then. Second of all, most people recover fine from Covid (but a ~0.5% death rate or so is still pretty significant considering the contagiousness), so we don’t know if what Rogan took really made a difference at all. Third of all, Rogan took like 13 different things, so even if what he took did do something, we don’t know if it was the ivermectin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,745 Posted May 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Huh? First of all, my main point was to combat your claim that we should have used “proven effective treatments,” as the stuff that ivermectin is proven effective against is nothing like covid. Maybe we should just give ivermectin to the people with monkey pox then. Second of all, most people recover fine from Covid (but a ~0.5% death rate or so is still pretty significant considering the contagiousness), so we don’t know if what Rogan took really made a difference at all. Third of all, Rogan took like 13 different things, so even if what he took did do something, we don’t know if it was the ivermectin. We're any of them the vaccine? And no, a 0.5% rate is not significant for anything. Certainly not something we should be concerned about as a nation of 350 million (and growing by the millions every month) people. It was blown out of proportion for political reasons and it is continuing to be blown out of proportion for the same political and now, new found, financial reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 'Tator Salad' White 85 Posted May 21, 2022 6 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said: Anothet vaccine incoming... Tim is already waiting in line. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,830 Posted May 22, 2022 2 hours ago, 5-Points said: We're any of them the vaccine? And no, a 0.5% rate is not significant for anything. Certainly not something we should be concerned about as a nation of 350 million (and growing by the millions every month) people. It was blown out of proportion for political reasons and it is continuing to be blown out of proportion for the same political and now, new found, financial reasons. No, Rogan did not take the vaccine, but see point #2. And yes, 0.5% is significant. That’s 1.75 million deaths if everyone had gotten it pre-vaccine. So basically if that is the IFR (not sure where the current estimate stands, but 0.3% of the country has already died of it and not everyone has even gotten it yet), then the vaccines probably saved about 500k+ lives. How is it continuing to be blown out of proportion? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,745 Posted May 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, TimHauck said: No, Rogan did not take the vaccine, but see point #2. And yes, 0.5% is significant. That’s 1.75 million deaths if everyone had gotten it pre-vaccine. So basically if that is the IFR (not sure where the current estimate stands), then the vaccines probably saved about 500k+ lives. How is it continuing to be blown out of proportion? 0.5% of 350 million people (and growing) is not significant. Period. That's how it's being blown out of proportion. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,830 Posted May 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, 5-Points said: 0.5% of 350 million people (and growing) is not significant. Period. Yes it is. Would you go to a college football game in a 100k person stadium knowing that 500 of those people would die because they went to that game? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,745 Posted May 22, 2022 17 hours ago, TimHauck said: Yes it is. Would you go to a college football game in a 100k person stadium knowing that 500 of those people would die because they went to that game? I don't go to college football games, I'm 51. And I tend to avoid crowds in general because I don't like people. However, given your hypothetical, sure. I'd be fine doing anything that has a 0.5% mortality rate. I've jumped out of planes, I own guns (which according to your type pretty much guarantees I'm going to be shot to death). I take calculated risks and I don't subscribe to fabricated buIIshit. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,400 Posted May 22, 2022 2 hours ago, 5-Points said: will America ever get tired of the next scare tease? "Monkey Pox, Could it be in your neighborhood? Tune in at 11:00 to find out!" That's nowhere near here. :kicksrocks: This is the beginning of the end......COVID was just a Beta Test to what they have planned FUK BILL GATES FUK THE UN FUK FAUCI FUK THE NWO FUK THE WHO FUK THE LEFT FUK THE RINO's FUK THE MORONS who will go along with this upcoming bullshite!!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,342 Posted May 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Big Guy said: This is the beginning of the end......COVID was just a Beta Test to what they have planned FUK BILL GATES FUK THE UN FUK FAUCI FUK THE NWO FUK THE WHO FUK THE LEFT FUK THE RINO's FUK THE MORONS who will go along with this upcoming bullshite!!! Amen! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,745 Posted May 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Big Guy said: This is the beginning of the end......COVID was just a Beta Test to what they have planned FUK BILL GATES FUK THE UN FUK FAUCI FUK THE NWO FUK THE WHO FUK THE LEFT FUK THE RINO's FUK THE MORONS who will go along with this upcoming bullshite!!! Let's get it over with already. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,085 Posted May 22, 2022 I get dumber reading this website sometimes. JFC. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,614 Posted May 22, 2022 22 hours ago, TimHauck said: RaiderHatersRevenge says it's not a vaccine unless it's 100% effective I have never said that, I have said that its not a vaccine if it doesnt prevent you from getting it. I have never once called MMR, Polio, Smallpox, TB, Hep, or others not vaccines, because they are actual vaccines 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,655 Posted May 22, 2022 Wait a minute, we couldn't call the China flu because well that would upset China people. I don't think we should call it the monkeypox. Might offend 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,614 Posted May 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, wiffleball said: Wait a minute, we couldn't call the China flu because well that would upset China people. I don't think we should call it the monkeypox. Might offend /thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted May 22, 2022 that escalated quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,830 Posted May 22, 2022 4 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I have never said that, I have said that its not a vaccine if it doesnt prevent you from getting it. I have never once called MMR, Polio, Smallpox, TB, Hep, or others not vaccines, because they are actual vaccines But any vaccine that’s not 100% effective doesn’t “prevent you from getting it”… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,614 Posted May 22, 2022 54 minutes ago, TimHauck said: But any vaccine that’s not 100% effective doesn’t “prevent you from getting it”… No every vaccine other than fake ones like flu and Covid prevent 1000% from me ever catching the disease they are intended for. The efficacy will never change on an individual basis. I can be exposed to measles 1 million times and I will NEVER get measles. The % that doesn’t work is because the individual that received the vaccine was unable to create antibodies to make them immune you would think with the amount you claim to know and spout you would at least understand the most basic idea behind vaccines 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,239 Posted May 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: No every vaccine other than fake ones like flu and Covid prevent 1000% from me ever catching the disease they are intended for. The efficacy will never change on an individual basis. I can be exposed to measles 1 million times and I will NEVER get measles. The % that doesn’t work is because the individual that received the vaccine was unable to create antibodies to make them immune you would think with the amount you claim to know and spout you would at least understand the most basic idea behind vaccines The clown thinks that a jab that doesn't stop ANYONE from getting covid is a vaccine. That level of stupid is hard to beat. Everyone that took the jab is getting covid. THAT is not a vaccine. It's a failed experiment on part of the population. He's been wrong the whole time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,304 Posted May 23, 2022 On 5/21/2022 at 4:38 PM, Cdub100 said: Can't wait for a vaccine that's 99.78% effective then 78% then 50% then it doesn't prevent you from getting sick but you have less symptoms then yeah it actually totally fades away 7 days after getting it but you have a increased chance of heart issues. You're welcome. I just want my STIMULUS!!!!!!! I'm too scared to go out and work now!! PAY ME MY MONEY DEMS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,400 Posted May 23, 2022 I haven't had time to read all this, but you guys aren't gonna fall for this Monkey Pox crap are you? #billgatesbioterrorist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,281 Posted May 23, 2022 I actually did read all this and it's the same terrible GC takes. It's amazing that some of you people are not willing to learn something. Monkeypox is fake, created by Bill Gates, a new vaccine will here forced on everyone, covid was the test run, vaccines are 100% effective unless they aren't, always the best takes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,078 Posted May 23, 2022 18 hours ago, wiffleball said: Wait a minute, we couldn't call the China flu because well that would upset China people. I don't think we should call it the monkeypox. Might offend What does this have to do with Obama?? (see Michigan teacher thread) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,614 Posted May 23, 2022 50 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: I actually did read all this and it's the same terrible GC takes. It's amazing that some of you people are not willing to learn something. Monkeypox is fake, created by Bill Gates, a new vaccine will here forced on everyone, covid was the test run, vaccines are 100% effective unless they aren't, always the best takes You’re pushing for second biggest dumba55 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,600 Posted May 23, 2022 have we learned nothing from the 80s about focking monkeys? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,281 Posted May 23, 2022 Just now, edjr said: have we learned nothing from the 80s about focking monkeys? I remember pre-internet, the story at my HS for when AIDS started was some dude focked a monkey in Africa, caught AIDS, then hoped on a plane to the US, he was a stewardess, and focked a couple of dudes on the plane, and they spread it in their countries, France, England, Brazil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,600 Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: I remember pre-internet, the story at my HS for when AIDS started was some dude focked a monkey in Africa, caught AIDS, then hoped on a plane to the US, he was a stewardess, and focked a couple of dudes on the plane, and they spread it in their countries, France, England, Brazil. Same thing up in Ma. Almost verbatim. Did you hear the Rod Stewart thing as well? That was Junior high for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites