Nothing on the Texas School shooting?

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13 minutes ago, MDC said:

Universal background checks, 30-day wait period on gun purchases and a ban on some types of automatic / assault weapons would be a good start.

so when gun deaths rate dont change then what

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4 hours ago, TimHauck said:

 

Apologies, guess I meant “assault weapon” - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon

 

 

all guns are assault weapons

all guns are also defensive weapons

 

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3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

so when gun deaths rate dont change then what

What makes you sure they won’t?

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6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

all guns are assault weapons

all guns are also defensive weapons

 

I think this old definition makes sense:

When the now-defunct Federal Assault Weapons Ban was passed in 1994, the U.S. Department of Justice said, "In general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and configured for rapid fire and combat use.

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10 minutes ago, MDC said:

What makes you sure they won’t?

because rifles represent around 500 of the 30-40k deaths from guns annually

 

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10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I think this old definition makes sense:

When the now-defunct Federal Assault Weapons Ban was passed in 1994, the U.S. Department of Justice said, "In general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and configured for rapid fire and combat use.

it does?

words like in general?  whats a large magazine?  what is combat use, all guns can be used for combat use

I can fire my glock way more efficient and quick then and AR style rifle

when you want to give a definition don't use words that are vague

 

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3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

because rifles represent around 500 of the 30-40k deaths from guns annually

 

Universal background checks? 30 day wait period? 

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Just now, MDC said:

Universal background checks? 30 day wait period? 

we have universal background checks and I would be willing to discuss 30 day wait periods

however I think there are a lot of circumstances where that could be waived

 

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The only way any weapons get banned would be if they can come up with a very specific criteria for what qualifies.  Would need to identify caliber, magazine capacity, shooting speed along with some other details but that still probably wouldn't be enough.

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2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

we have universal background checks

No we don’t.

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Just now, MDC said:

No we don’t.

What are you talking about specifically then?

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2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What are you talking about specifically then?

Federal law doesn’t require unlicensed / private gun sellers to conduct a background check for a sale.

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The Brady Bill requires that background checks be conducted on individuals before a firearm may be purchased from a federally licensed dealer, manufacturer or importer—unless an exception applies. If there are no additional state restrictions, a firearm may be transferred to an individual upon approval by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) maintained by the FBI.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brady_Handgun_Violence_Prevention_Act

 

Although there is no specific waiting period prior to purchase of a firearm in New York, all handgun purchasers must obtain a license to possess or carry a handgun, and such licenses may take up to six months to process (or longer, upon written notice to the applicant)…

Waiting Periods in New York – GunPolicy.org

www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/citation/quotes/7143

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18 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

it does?

words like in general?  whats a large magazine?  what is combat use, all guns can be used for combat use

I can fire my glock way more efficient and quick then and AR style rifle

when you want to give a definition don't use words that are vague

 

I'm not a gun expert, I'm sure you could get someone that is to be more specific with it.   

Do you think Salvador Ramos could have been more efficient with a glock?

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5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I'm not a gun expert, I'm sure you could get someone that is to be more specific with it.   

Do you think Salvador Ramos could have been more efficient with a glock?

I dont know, if you put him in a room with 10 year olds and any fire arms hes going to kill them

 

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4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I dont know, if you put him in a room with 10 year olds and any fire arms hes going to kill them

 

fair enough, especially when the police give him an hour to do it

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2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

fair enough, especially when the police give him an hour to do it

thats where the fail is in this situation

Buffalo the dude posted all kinds of crazy sh1t on internet

same with the Subway shooter

same with the wakesha car killer

 

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39 minutes ago, MDC said:

Universal background checks? 30 day wait period? 

A question about the wait period:  I presume the idea is that somebody might buy a gun to do something bad on an impulse, and the waiting period gives them time to cool off?  I don't disagree if that's true, but my question is if you are aware of any studies which show the time between these whackjobs getting guns and killing people.  I honestly don't know.   

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4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

thats where the fail is in this situation

Buffalo the dude posted all kinds of crazy sh1t on internet

same with the Subway shooter

same with the wakesha car killer

 

Uvalde gunman threatened rapes and school shootings on social media app Yubo in weeks leading up to the massacre, users say
 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/27/us/yubo-app-salvador-ramos-threats-invs/index.html

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6 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

A question about the wait period:  I presume the idea is that somebody might buy a gun to do something bad on an impulse, and the waiting period gives them time to cool off?  I don't disagree if that's true, but my question is if you are aware of any studies which show the time between these whackjobs getting guns and killing people.  I honestly don't know.   

Sure here’s one Link

There are a lot of studies out there w a little Googling.

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1 hour ago, MDC said:

Sure here’s one Link

There are a lot of studies out there w a little Googling.

Thanks.  Seems worth discussing as it makes some logical sense that a wait period would lower impulsive shootings.  I didn't see a specific mention to school shootings or mass murders though, which was really my question.  

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4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Thanks.  Seems worth discussing as it makes some logical sense that a wait period would lower impulsive shootings.  I didn't see a specific mention to school shootings or mass murders though, which was really my question.  

I think mostly in the event of domestic violence, but a waiting period would have done nothing here

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and for those of you who think it stops at "assault weapons"

Joe Biden thinks nobody needs a 9mm cause you can shoot a lung out

I wish I could, that would be an effective pea shooter for sure

 

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5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Thanks.  Seems worth discussing as it makes some logical sense that a wait period would lower impulsive shootings.  I didn't see a specific mention to school shootings or mass murders though, which was really my question.  

I’m not sure how you’d even measure that. 

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I think mostly in the event of domestic violence, but a waiting period would have done nothing here

That’s an awfully definitive statement you can’t possibly back up.

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1 minute ago, MDC said:

I’m not sure how you’d even measure that. 

That’s an awfully definitive statement you can’t possibly back up.

the guy waited two years to get his guns, he had this planned out

 

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4 minutes ago, MDC said:

I’m not sure how you’d even measure that. 

 

Seems quite easy.  Look at the date of the events, and look at the purchase date of the weapons used.  Am I missing something.   

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12 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Seems quite easy.  Look at the date of the events, and look at the purchase date of the weapons used.  Am I missing something.   

Maybe I did. I don’t know if anyone out there did a review of when guns used in mass shootings were purchased. 

19 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

the guy waited two years to get his guns, he had this planned out

 

A wait period probably wouldn’t have stopped this case but you can’t know that.

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3 minutes ago, MDC said:

Maybe I did. I don’t know if anyone out there did a review of when guns used in mass shootings were purchased. 

A wait period probably wouldn’t have stopped this case but you can’t know that.

and an AR ban probably wouldn't have stopped this case but you can't know that

 

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14 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

and an AR ban probably wouldn't have stopped this case but you can't know that

 

Stopped the case? No. Maybe some of the kids who are now dead would be alive though.

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Just now, MDC said:

Stopped the case? No. Maybe some of the kids who are now dead would be alive though.

how do you know? 2 glocks with clips does the same thing, you act like he didn't reload

or does he have one of those 300 capacity tommy gun clips with a bullet belt loading?

 

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2 hours ago, Baker Boy said:

Uvalde gunman threatened rapes and school shootings on social media app Yubo in weeks leading up to the massacre, users say
 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/27/us/yubo-app-salvador-ramos-threats-invs/index.html

what should be done with joe bryant, tremblay, GM, etc on fbgs?  they allowed people to issue death threats to conservatives and did nothing but stand around and watch and then ban the people getting death threats?  those people are complete and total scum.  if we gonna pass a law to go after people making death threats, all of them should be thrown in prison.

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Liberals care about dead kids now? Kids get killed a lot in the ghettos that the left has created.  9 year old killed In Philadelphia this weekend. 

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7 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

how do you know? 2 glocks with clips does the same thing, you act like he didn't reload

or does he have one of those 300 capacity tommy gun clips with a bullet belt loading?

 

I believe the majority of school shootings are done with rifles though, and that's why they get more attention than handguns.

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FBGs has a long history of being overly permissive in allowing liberals to assault conservatives.  should we just ignore it until someone like Tim finally loses all his marbles, picks up a gun and starts hunting right wingers?  Or should we say Joe Bryant needs to go to jail.

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12 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

how do you know? 2 glocks with clips does the same thing, you act like he didn't reload

or does he have one of those 300 capacity tommy gun clips with a bullet belt loading?

 

I don’t know. Seems more than coincidental though that the AR-15 is so often used in mass shootings.

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7 minutes ago, MDC said:

I don’t know. Seems more than coincidental though that the AR-15 is so often used in mass shootings.

no thats just what they advertise, it actually isnt

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476409/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-weapon-types-used/

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6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

no thats just what they advertise, it actually isnt

https://www.statista.com/statistics/476409/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-weapon-types-used/

Maybe it’s just regency bias but AR-15s seem to show up a lot in major shootings: Uvalde, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, Orlando / Pulse Nightclub, etc. 

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2 minutes ago, MDC said:

Maybe it’s just regency bias but AR-15s seem to show up a lot in major shootings: Uvalde, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, Orlando / Pulse Nightclub, etc. 

thats the point, they only push those ones, its agenda

Virginia tech was the 3rd biggest and that was hand guns

 

 

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3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I think this old definition makes sense:

When the now-defunct Federal Assault Weapons Ban was passed in 1994, the U.S. Department of Justice said, "In general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and configured for rapid fire and combat use.

Well that excludes AR's. 

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3 hours ago, MDC said:

No we don’t.

If you're buying a gun from a federally licensed dealer, you're going through a bgc, period. 

I don't think I should have to run a bgc on my friend if I want to sell him one of my guns or if we decide to trade.