Nothing on the Texas School shooting?

[jerryskids 6,596]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah I think this goes along with a point I've been making, is that bullying he received may have been part of this shooter's motivations.  But the GC doesn't seem to want to acknowledge that, and instead just call people freaks.

It wasn't the bullying he received, it was his reaction to it.  A lot of what we now call bullying was, back in my youth, I dunno, it doesn't have a word... social feedback?  If you wore a stupid shirt or your hair looked stupid, your peers made fun of you and you learned.  Or you decided you didn't care and kept doing it.  Kids are born with these ginormous, largely empty computers in their head, and it is the job of society to fill it as they grow, hopefully with mostly good, useful things.  Parents, teachers, siblings, peers, all help to fill these computers.  But kids today are rudderless, and we're filling their heads with gibberish code.  A boy needs to learn how to become a man, not that he can be a man or woman or cat or whatever, whee!  But any feedback today is considered bullying, and we've built this bullying up to be so bad in the eyes of the receiver that they are in some ways expected to have mental problems as a result.

[Sean Mooney 1,950]

Just now, Horseman said:

It's in the low IQ primary teacher code handbook.  Protect your fellow idiots.

Again- the doors lock from the outside. Am I supposed to check all the doors in my school to make sure they are locked from the outside?

[TimHauck 2,633]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

It wasn't the bullying he received, it was his reaction to it.  A lot of what we now call bullying was, back in my youth, I dunno, it doesn't have a word... social feedback?  If you wore a stupid shirt or your hair looked stupid, your peers made fun of you and you learned.  Or you decided you didn't care and kept doing it.  Kids are born with these ginormous, largely empty computers in their head, and it is the job of society to fill it as they grow, hopefully with mostly good, useful things.  Parents, teachers, siblings, peers, all help to fill these computers.  But kids today are rudderless, and we're filling their heads with gibberish code.  A boy needs to learn how to become a man, not that he can be a man or woman or cat or whatever, whee!  But any feedback today is considered bullying, and we've built this bullying up to be so bad in the eyes of the receiver that they are in some ways expected to have mental problems as a result.

I thought I read that he was made fun of because he often wore the same clothes because he was poor.  But I guess the GC argument will be he should have just bought more clothes and not a gun?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,996]

29 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Again- the doors lock from the outside. Am I supposed to check all the doors in my school to make sure they are locked from the outside?

The ones you prop open with a rock should be checked when you come back in.  Then again, use the proper door, not the one meant for emergencies. Going to your car to get stuff isn’t an emergency. 

[Horseman 2,398]

32 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Again- the doors lock from the outside. Am I supposed to check all the doors in my school to make sure they are locked from the outside?

I suspect that exact thing was reviewed in the active shooter training, if not it should have been.  If the low IQ teachers can't put 2 + 2 together that's a different problem altogether.  

[Mike Honcho 5,146]

35 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

It wasn't the bullying he received, it was his reaction to it.  A lot of what we now call bullying was, back in my youth, I dunno, it doesn't have a word... social feedback?  If you wore a stupid shirt or your hair looked stupid, your peers made fun of you and you learned.  Or you decided you didn't care and kept doing it.  Kids are born with these ginormous, largely empty computers in their head, and it is the job of society to fill it as they grow, hopefully with mostly good, useful things.  Parents, teachers, siblings, peers, all help to fill these computers.  But kids today are rudderless, and we're filling their heads with gibberish code.  A boy needs to learn how to become a man, not that he can be a man or woman or cat or whatever, whee!  But any feedback today is considered bullying, and we've built this bullying up to be so bad in the eyes of the receiver that they are in some ways expected to have mental problems as a result.

Where did you grow up, Pleasantville? 

[TimHauck 2,633]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I already said they did. Read for once, jerkoff. Why are you so adverse to saying the staff focked up too? Both can be true. And both are true. 

 

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The door didn’t lock. It’s the doors fault.  Did the door prop itself open with a rock too? 

 

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I thought the teacher was going to get a cell phone? What a bunch of obvious bullshit.  The teacher didn’t secure the door. Was running back in in fear most likely, and that’s understandable. Point being the teacher should have gone out and came back in via the main entrance. Not prop open a door because her car was closer to that door. 

 

Why do you hate teachers so much?  If the exterior door was closed and it was supposed to lock itself, that person didn't f up, at least in a way that would have made it easier for the shooter to gain entry.  Yes it's sounding like it was the door's fault.

[Sean Mooney 1,950]

14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The ones you prop open with a rock should be checked when you come back in.  Then again, use the proper door, not the one meant for emergencies. Going to your car to get stuff isn’t an emergency. 

Please explain how a rock propping open a door disengages the lock so that when the door is shut it now won't lock.

[Sean Mooney 1,950]

12 minutes ago, Horseman said:

I suspect that exact thing was reviewed in the active shooter training, if not it should have been.  If the low IQ teachers can't put 2 + 2 together that's a different problem altogether.  

Explain how a door that should be locked from the outside is on the teacher once the door closes. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,996]

4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Please explain how a rock propping open a door disengages the lock so that when the door is shut it now won't lock.

When you run back in maybe you should check that it’s locked? Not fling it open and run. Did they remove the rock? I doubt it. Someone was shooting and they were terrified. If they stopped to remove the rock then they should have made sure it was secured. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,996]

6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Explain how a door that should be locked from the outside is on the teacher once the door closes. 

It didn’t close. Obviously. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,996]

14 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Please explain how a rock propping open a door disengages the lock so that when the door is shut it now won't lock.

If the rock isn’t removed. So we are to believe , that a door lock that was working, evidenced by the need to prop it open, all of a sudden didn’t work when the teacher removed the rock and went back inside. Let’s play the what’s more likely game. The door failed to work in between the time the door was propped open and when it was shut, or the teacher running for their life flung open the door and didn’t completely move the rock out of the way, if at all. 

[Cruzer 1,995]

Much is being made about the locked/unlocked door - Ok, I get it. 
 

Call me crazy but if someone is hell bent on a mass shooting, has gone to great lengths to plan & prepare, has already blown his grandma’s head off and is loaded down with 2 ARs,1600 rounds and a tactical vest - do you really believe a locked door would matter, you really believe those kids are dead bcoz the door was unlocked? 
 

That dude was getting in, locked door or not. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,996]

34 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Explain how a door that should be locked from the outside is on the teacher once the door closes. 

It didn’t close. The rock was blocking it. Or , I guess, the lock that was working when the teacher blocked it all of a sudden didn’t. Right at that very moment. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,996]

8 minutes ago, Cruzer said:

Much is being made about the locked/unlocked door - Ok, I get it. 
 

Call me crazy but if someone is hell bent on a mass shooting, has gone to great lengths to plan & prepare, has already blown his grandma’s head off and is loaded down with 2 ARs,1600 rounds and a tactical vest - do you really believe a locked door would matter, you really believe those kids are dead bcoz the door was unlocked? 
 

That dude was getting in, locked door or not. 

He didn’t have 1600 rounds on him. That would be extremely difficult. 

[Baker Boy 1,691]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

Again- the doors lock from the outside. Am I supposed to check all the doors in my school to make sure they are locked from the outside?

If you enter through a door that should be lock, yes you should check it, especially if someone is shooting outside. This does not apply only to teachers, it is common sense for everyone.

Have you ever this? ‘Check to make sure the doors are locked"

[Cruzer 1,995]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

He didn’t have 1600 rounds on him. That would be extremely difficult. 

Would be heavy. He purchased 1600 rounds  just before the shooting, 375 were found in the school. There was undisclosed amount in the wrecked truck too. 

[edjr 6,578]

Remember that girl in Massachusetts that got prison time for telling her boyfriend to "DO IT" when he said he was going to commit suicide?

Maybe she saved 25 lives by doing that

Does anyone know if she got a Nike sponsorship yet?

[Baker Boy 1,691]

55 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 

 

 

Why do you hate teachers so much?  If the exterior door was closed and it was supposed to lock itself, that person didn't f up, at least in a way that would have made it easier for the shooter to gain entry.  Yes it's sounding like it was the door's fault.

Why is it the door’s fault, shouldn’t it have been the lock’s fault?

 

 

[Gepetto 1,301]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Why is did the teacher go outside? If the lock wasn’t working they why did it need to be propped open? Wow, what a series of unfortunate events. Just when a shooter arrives the door all of a sudden stopped working. I guess we will be seeing a lawsuit brought forth against the door company and whoever installed it. We have found the culprit. 

She was bringing in food as it was a special graduation day for the kids.  That is the reason the teacher propped the door open, to carry in food.

[Baker Boy 1,691]

24 minutes ago, Cruzer said:

Much is being made about the locked/unlocked door - Ok, I get it. 
 

Call me crazy but if someone is hell bent on a mass shooting, has gone to great lengths to plan & prepare, has already blown his grandma’s head off and is loaded down with 2 ARs,1600 rounds and a tactical vest - do you really believe a locked door would matter, you really believe those kids are dead bcoz the door was unlocked? 
 

That dude was getting in, locked door or not. 

If you are correct, why do people put locks on doors in the first place? 

[jerryskids 6,596]

1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said:

Where did you grow up, Pleasantville? 

I didn't say "all," I said "a lot".  There was real bullying back then too.

[Gepetto 1,301]

 

[TimHauck 2,633]

23 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Why is it the door’s fault, shouldn’t it have been the lock’s fault?

 

 

I was considering the lock to be part of the door, but sure

[edjr 6,578]

Ban locks

[Hardcore troubadour 14,996]

38 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

She was bringing in food as it was a special graduation day for the kids.  That is the reason the teacher propped the door open, to carry in food.

She propped the door open because it locks. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,996]

35 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

If you are correct, why do people put locks on doors in the first place? 

Walls don’t work either. 

[Gepetto 1,301]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

She propped the door open because it locks. 

That is what she thought.

[MDC 7,170]

1 hour ago, Cruzer said:

Much is being made about the locked/unlocked door - Ok, I get it. 
 

Call me crazy but if someone is hell bent on a mass shooting, has gone to great lengths to plan & prepare, has already blown his grandma’s head off and is loaded down with 2 ARs,1600 rounds and a tactical vest - do you really believe a locked door would matter, you really believe those kids are dead bcoz the door was unlocked? 
 

That dude was getting in, locked door or not. 

The goal is to talk about anything but guns.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,996]

1 minute ago, Gepetto said:

That is what she thought.

Oh, so the lock wasn’t working. All of a sudden   You people will just say anything. 

[edjr 6,578]

1 hour ago, Cruzer said:

Much is being made about the locked/unlocked door - Ok, I get it. 
 

Call me crazy but if someone is hell bent on a mass shooting, has gone to great lengths to plan & prepare, has already blown his grandma’s head off and is loaded down with 2 ARs,1600 rounds and a tactical vest - do you really believe a locked door would matter, you really believe those kids are dead bcoz the door was unlocked? 
 

That dude was getting in, locked door or not. 

Finally, someone with some sense. 

Republicans have turned into liberals. Trying to blame everything else

[Hardcore troubadour 14,996]

1 hour ago, Cruzer said:

Much is being made about the locked/unlocked door - Ok, I get it. 
 

Call me crazy but if someone is hell bent on a mass shooting, has gone to great lengths to plan & prepare, has already blown his grandma’s head off and is loaded down with 2 ARs,1600 rounds and a tactical vest - do you really believe a locked door would matter, you really believe those kids are dead bcoz the door was unlocked? 
 

That dude was getting in, locked door or not. 

The classrooms that were locked had zero casualties. The killer went around until he found one open. If every door was locked there would have been less casualties. He would have been on the hunt, and then it would not have been a hostage situation, but a live shooter one. There are different approaches to those two situations.  Not saying I agree with that, in a school.  The playbook should have been thrown out. Adjust and adapt. Didn’t happen. 

[lod001 1,344]

The amount of misinformation over the last 1.5 weeks is staggering.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,996]

9 minutes ago, edjr said:

Finally, someone with some sense. 

Republicans have turned into liberals. Trying to blame everything else

Haven’t seen too much defending of the cops performance here. On the whole, there shouldn’t be. 

[Gepetto 1,301]

13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Oh, so the lock wasn’t working. All of a sudden   You people will just say anything. 

It's possible the door wasn't locked but she though it was.  It's also possible it was locked and she screwed up when she thought she moved the rock and didn't get the door shut tight.  It's also possible it was locked but doesn't shut tight enough to lock sometimes if it has some kind of issue/problem with the door and/or lock.

[TimHauck 2,633]

15 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Oh, so the lock wasn’t working. All of a sudden   You people will just say anything. 

It could've not been working for awhile but the teacher didn't realize

[Sean Mooney 1,950]

HT apparently has not seen that police confirmed the door was shut but the locking mechanism did not work. 

[Sean Mooney 1,950]

Or he doesn't know how locks work.

 

Either one is possible for him

[TimHauck 2,633]

3 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

It's possible the door wasn't locked but she though it was.  It's also possible it was locked and she screwed up when she thought she moved the rock and didn't get the door shut tight.  It's also possible it was locked but doesn't shut tight enough to lock sometimes if it has some kind of issue/problem with the door and/or lock.

Video footage confirmed she closed the door.  I think if there was a chance it was not fully closed, they would have stated that.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,996]

3 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

It's possible the door wasn't locked but she though it was.  It's also possible it was locked and she screwed up when she thought she moved the rock and didn't get the door shut tight.  It's also possible it was locked but doesn't shut tight enough to lock sometimes if it has some kind of issue/problem with the door and/or lock.

What’s definite is she shouldn’t have been using that door in the first place, and she damn sure shouldn’t have been propping it open