Nothing on the Texas School shooting?

[Big Guy 1,400]

 

[Baker Boy 1,485]

2 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

Well, the hope is we learn from these mistakes in order to reduce the chance this happens again.

 

Changing the way the police responded to this tragedy is not going to stop them from happening the future. 
 

if you want to stop the shootings you have to start with the shooters, they have enough in common.

[GutterBoy 2,281]

1 hour ago, Baker Boy said:

Changing the way the police responded to this tragedy is not going to stop them from happening the future. 
 

if you want to stop the shootings you have to start with the shooters, they have enough in common.

Why can't we try to improve everything?  Why are the police off limits?

[Baker Boy 1,485]

5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Why can't we try to improve everything?  Why are the police off limits?

The police did not cause this, that and gun control are all people are talking about. Neither will end this. If you fix the cause the end will fix itself.

The actions of a seven man police force should not be our priority.

[TimHauck 1,802]

9 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

The police did not cause this, that and gun control are all people are talking about. Neither will end this. If you fix the cause the end will fix itself.

The actions of a seven man police force should not be our priority.

Seven?  They had triple that hanging out in the hallway.

Of course we should try to prevent it from happening at all, but I think I’m the only one that even mentioned what could have been a primary cause: bullying.  I think we need the “normal” people to just stop bullying moreso than we need mental help health for those that are bullied.

Edit:  But that’s a longer term solution.   It’s also fair to criticize the police (and sure, whoever propped the door open) as those are things that could have been done differently in the moment.

[TimHauck 1,802]

1 hour ago, Baker Boy said:

Changing the way the police responded to this tragedy is not going to stop them from happening the future. 

If the police shoot him dead before he kills anyone (or at minimum keep it to only a few casualties) it might help deter future people

[Baker Boy 1,485]

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Seven?  They had triple that hanging out in the hallway.

Of course we should try to prevent it from happening at all, but I think I’m the only one that even mentioned what could have been a primary cause: bullying.  I think we need the “normal” people to just stop bullying moreso than we need mental help health for those that are bullied.

Edit:  But that’s a longer term solution.   It’s also fair to criticize the police (and sure, whoever propped the door open) as those are things that could have been done differently in the moment.

 

Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District, located 84 miles outside of San Antonio, is one of the smaller school districts in Texas. The school district has its own police department made up of four officers, a police chief and a detective. According to the school’s website, the district has also hired a security guard.

Texas school shooting: Uvalde school police officer was first to en…

 

www.kxan.com/investigations/uvalde-school-police-officer-was-first-to-engage-shooter/
 

 

[TimHauck 1,802]

5 hours ago, Reality said:

These threads take the dumbest turns. Mostly because of a couple people. Annoying.

So, initial door propped open, class room left unlocked, cops waited way too long to engage teenager with a rifle. Just a comedy of errors and cowardice.

Seems sketchy but, it is what it is. It gives the politicians on the left, who absolutely destroy everything thing they touch, an opportunity to grandstand. If we're lucky, nothing changes, I don't trust a single Democrat in this country when it comes to policy. Whether it's ineptness or pure evil, they simply can't be trusted.

Bolding mine.  Please tell me you don’t think it’s possible the teachers, cops, or politicians were somehow in on the planning of this shooting…

[TimHauck 1,802]

1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

 

Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District, located 84 miles outside of San Antonio, is one of the smaller school districts in Texas. The school district has its own police department made up of four officers, a police chief and a detective. According to the school’s website, the district has also hired a security guard.

Texas school shooting: Uvalde school police officer was first to en…

 

www.kxan.com/investigations/uvalde-school-police-officer-was-first-to-engage-shooter/
 

 

That’s the school district, not the town 

[Baker Boy 1,485]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

If the police shoot him dead before he kills anyone (or at minimum keep it to only a few casualties) it might help deter future people

That is your solution? 

[Baker Boy 1,485]

24 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

That’s the school district, not the town 

What’s your point? These are the guys you’re condemning and their chief Is the one that screwed up. It is their district and their responsibility.

[GutterBoy 2,281]

46 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

The police did not cause this, that and gun control are all people are talking about. Neither will end this. If you fix the cause the end will fix itself.

The actions of a seven man police force should not be our priority.

You can't fix the cause.  If there were secury, if he wasn't allowed to buy the guns, this doesn't happen.

We can and should try and fix the cause, but we should try everything

[TimHauck 1,802]

33 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

That is your solution? 

No, but it would’ve helped
 

15 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

What’s your point? These are the guys you’re condemning and their chief Is the one that screwed up. It is their district and their responsibility.

Was it the school district police chief that made the call not to go in the room?

[edjr 5,567]

Being in the country illegally is not a crime. Nor is standing outside of building letting a gunman mow down little kids. 

[Cloaca du jour 2,064]

8 hours ago, Baker Boy said:

Once again America is blaming everyone but the shooter. 

I got permabanned from imgur for posting this statement in the 50 front page memes blaming cops, nra, ted cruz, abbott etc.

 

Lol thanks!!

[TimHauck 1,802]

20 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said:

I got permabanned from imgur for posting this statement in the 50 front page memes blaming cops, nra, ted cruz, abbott etc.

 

Lol thanks!!

This is dumb.  Of course everyone blames the shooter.  But he’s dead.  And there were many things that could have been done to help prevent it from happening or reducing the number of casualties besides wishing his mom had an abortion

[Mike Honcho 4,039]

Nevaeh Alyssa Bravo

 

Nevaeh Alyssa Bravo brought smiles to everyone's faces, her cousin said.

Nevaeh Alyssa Bravo was 10 years old, her cousin told the Washington Post.

Austin Ayala told the paper the family is devastated after losing Nevaeh, whom he said put a smile on everyone's face.

Funeral services are pending, according to an online obituary by Hillcrest Memorial Funeral Home.

 

Jacklyn Jaylen Cazares

 

Jacklyn Jaylen Cazares was killed along with her cousin Annabell Rodriguez.

 

Jacklyn Jaylen Cazares was killed along with her cousin, friend and classmate Annabell Guadalupe Rodriguez, according to posts by her family on social media.

"She was full of love and full of life. She would do anything for anybody," Cazares' father Jacinto Cazares told reporters in a video distributed by Reuters. "And to me, she's a little firecracker, man. It comforts me a little bit to think she would be the one to help her friends in need."

Cazares' family recently came together to celebrate her first Communion, her father said.

"Through COVID, through the death of a family member a year ago, it brought us together and it was something beautiful," he added. "And now, we're being brought together, but it is in tragedy."

Jacinto Cazares arrived at the scene at Robb Elementary School shortly after he heard that something was going on, joined near the building's front door by several other men who had children at the school, he told The Washington Post. He said he wanted to rush into the building as soon as he heard the gunshots coming from inside the school.

"There were five or six of (us) fathers, hearing the gunshots, and (police officers) were telling us to move back," Cazares told the paper. "We didn't care about us. We wanted to storm the building. We were saying, 'Let's go' because that is how worried we were, and we wanted to get our babies out."

Hours later, he learned his daughter had been shot and killed, the Post reported.

 

Makenna Lee Elrod

 

Makenna Lee Elrod

 

Makenna's mother, April Elrod, confirmed her child's death to CNN.

"Her smile would light up a room," Allison McCullough, Makenna's aunt, told ABC. She added that Makenna loved to play softball, do gymnastics and spend time with her family. She was a natural leader and loved school. McCullough described her niece as "a light to all who knew her."

"She loved her family and friends so much," McCullough said.

 

Jose Flores Jr.

 

Jose Flores Jr. loved baseball and video games.

 

10-year-old Jose Flores Jr. was an amazing kid and big brother to his siblings, his father Jose Flores Sr. told CNN. And he loved baseball and video games.

"He was always full of energy," Flores said. "Ready to play till the night."

Jose Jr. wanted to be a police officer when he grew up because he wanted to protect others. His mother, Cynthia Flores, remembered how he would always help her around the house, especially when it came to his baby brother.

"He would just be like my little shadow," she told CNN's Gary Tuchman. "He would just be helping me with the baby. He had a thing with babies, like my friends' babies. He just had a thing with babies. He was always nice."

Jose Jr.'s sister Endrea Flores was also in the fourth grade at Robb Elementary, though Endrea was in a different class than her brother. What she appreciated most about her older brother, she said, "that he would always support me and he would always play with me."

 

Eliana 'Ellie' Garcia

 

Eliana "Ellie" Garcia, 9, was identified as one of the victims of the Uvalde, Texas, shooting.

 

Eliana "Ellie" Garcia was nine years old and about to turn 10, family members told CNN affiliate KHOU.

Rogelio Lugo and Nelda Lugo, Garcia's grandparents, told the Los Angeles Times that she was a fourth grader at the school and the second-eldest of five girls in the family.

She loved the movie "Encanto," cheerleading and basketball, according to her grandparents. They said she dreamed of becoming a teacher.

 

Irma Garcia

 

Irma Garcia was a teacher at Robb Elementary School.

 

Irma Garcia was a teacher, a wife and mother to four children, according to a GoFundMe set up to raise funds for her funeral expenses and family needs.

"Sweet, kind, loving. Fun with the greatest personality. A wonderful 4th grade teacher at Robb Elementary that was a victim in a Texas school shooting in Uvalde, Texas. She sacrificed herself protecting the kids in her classroom. She was a hero. She was loved by many and will truly be missed," the campaign site reads.

Garcia's nephew, John Martinez, told The Washington Post that officials informed the family that she helped shield students from the gunfire.

"I want her to be remembered as someone who sacrificed her life and put her life on the line for her kids," Martinez told the paper. "They weren't just her students. Those were her kids, and she put her life on the line, she lost her life to protect them. That's the type of person she was."

Two days after Garcia's death, her husband, Joe, suffered a fatal heart attack, the Archdiocese of San Antonio told CNN. The pair's family says he died of a broken heart.

"Please keep our family in your thoughts and prayers," the GoFundMe post said. "I truly believe Joe died of a broken heart and losing the love of his life of more than 25 years was too much to bear."

Garcia had been an educator for 23 years, according to her profile on the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District website. It was her fifth year co-teaching with Eva Mireles, who was also among the victims of the massacre.

Uziyah Garcia

 

Uziyah Garcia loved video games and anything with wheels.

 

10-year-old Uziyah Garcia was "full of life," according to an uncle, Mitch Renfro. He loved video games and anything with wheels. He leaves behind two sisters.

"The sweetest little boy that I've ever known," Garcia's grandfather Manny Renfro told CNN affiliate KSAT. "I'm not just saying that because he was my grandkid."

Uziyah last visited his grandfather in San Angelo during his spring break. Renfro recalls tossing around a football with him and how quickly his grandson took to the sport.

"We started throwing the football together, and I was teaching him pass patterns. Such a fast little boy and he could catch a ball so good," Renfro said. "There were certain plays that I would call that he would remember and he would do it exactly like we practiced."

 

Amerie Jo Garza

 

Amerie Jo Garza was 10 years old.

 

Amerie Jo Garza had recently just turned 10 years old, and her family had fulfilled her birthday wishes by gifting her a phone, her father Angel Garza told CNN's Anderson Cooper Wednesday.

Garza eventually learned from two students that his daughter tried to use her new phone to call authorities during the shooting. He is a med aide, he explained, and when he responded to the scene, he saw a girl covered in blood who told him that someone had shot her best friend.

When Garza asked who her best friend was, the girl replied, "Amerie." His daughter.

"I just want people to know she died trying to save her classmates," Garza said. "She just wanted to save everyone."

The family has been trying to cope with Amerie's death. Garza said his 3-year-old son has been asking for his sister every morning when he wakes up.

"We informed him that his sister is now with God and she will no longer be with us," he said through tears.

Garza added, breaking down, "She was the sweetest girl who did nothing wrong. I just wanna know what she did to be a victim."

 

Jayce Carmelo Luevanos

 

Jayce Luevanos

A GoFundMe site is raising funds for Jayce Luevanos' funeral expenses and family needs, CNN has confirmed.

"We are all deeply saddened by the news we received from the Robb School shooting. It breaks my heart having to create a fundraiser for such a need but Jayce's parents, Christina and Jose Luevanos need as much help as possible in these terrible times," Jesus Cardona, who organized the verified GoFundMe campaign, said on the site.

Luevanos' grandfather Carmelo Quiroz told USA Today that the 10-year-old and his mother lived with him. He said Jayce was happy and loved. "He was our baby," Quiroz said.

Veronica Luevanos, Jayce's aunt and mother of shooting victim Jailah Nicole Silguero, posted a picture Wednesday on Facebook of her daughter and Jayce and wrote, "My baby you didn't deserve this neither did your classmates n cousin Jayce."

 

Xavier Javier Lopez

 

Xavier Lopez was looking forward to starting middle school.

 

Just hours before he was killed, 10-year-old Xavier Lopez was lauded at Robb Elementary's honor roll ceremony, his mother, Felicha Martinez, told The Washington Post.

Martinez took a photo of her fourth grader and told him she was proud of him and loved him. That was the last moment she was to share with her "mama's boy."

"He was funny, never serious, and his smile ..." Felicha Martinez told the Post, her voice breaking. "That smile I will never forget. It would always cheer anyone up."

Just a few days shy of completing his last year of elementary school, Xavier was counting down to his official move up the academic ladder into Flores Middle School in Uvalde, his mother told the Post.

"He really couldn't wait to go to middle school," she said.

Tess Marie Mata

 

Tess Marie Mata, 10, was saving up for a family trip to Disney World.

 

Tess Marie Mata, 10, had been saving money for a trip to Disney World with her family before she was killed at Robb Elementary, her sister, Faith Mata, told The Washington Post.

Tess was in the fourth grade and loved TikTok dances, Ariana Grande and the Houston Astros, Faith Mata told the Post.

"My precious angel you are loved so deeply. In my eyes you are not a victim but a survivor. I love you always and past forever baby sister, may your wings soar higher then you could ever dream," Faith Mata wrote on Twitter.

Maranda Mathis

 

Maranda Mathis was 11.

 

Maranda Mathis was 11 years old. The City of Uvalde's website confirmed her as one of the victims.

Leslie Ruiz, who identified herself as a friend of Mathis' mother, told The Washington Post that Mathis was a bright girl who was fun and spunky. She said that Maranda's best friend was her brother and he was also at Robb Elementary when the shooting happened.

On Wednesday, Mathis' cousin Deanna Miller posted on Facebook: "My sweet baby cousin we loved u dearly I'm so sorry this happen to u baby please keep my family in your prayers."

Eva Mireles

 

Eva Mireles was a teacher at Robb Elementary School.

 

Eva Mireles was a fourth grade teacher at the school, family members told CNN.

Mireles had been an educator for 17 years. Erica Torres recalled the care with which Mireles treated her son Stanley, who has autism, while he was in her third- and fourth grade classes. In an effort to stop him from wandering around the school, Mireles put Stanley in charge of rounding up students to get to class.

"She made you feel like she was only teaching your child," Torres said. "Like there's no other students but him. She made you feel so good."

Mireles' daughter, Adalynn, tweeted a tribute to her mother Wednesday, a family member confirmed to CNN. The tweet also included a picture of Adalynn and her mom.

"Mom, you are a hero. I keep telling myself that this isn't real. I just want to hear your voice," the tribute read. "I want to thank you mom, for being such an inspiration to me. I will forever be so proud to be your daughter. My sweet mommy, I will see you again."

 

In her spare time, Mireles enjoyed running, hiking, biking and being with her family, according to her profile on the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District's website.

"She was a vivacious soul. She spread laughter and joy everywhere she went," relative Amber Ybarra told CNN. "She was a loving and caring mom, relative, teacher to her students, and it's absolutely tragic what's happening."

 

Alithia Ramirez

 

Alithia Ramirez wanted to be an artist, her family said.

 

Ten-year-old Alithia Ramirez was in fourth grade and loved to draw, her father, Ryan Ramirez, told CNN affiliate KSAT. Alithia wanted to be an artist.

On Wednesday morning, her father posted a photo of Alithia with angel wings on Facebook.

Alithia's grandmother, Rosa Maria Ramirez, told ABC News: "She was a very talented little girl... She was real sweet."

Annabell Guadalupe Rodriguez

 

Annabell Guadalupe Rodriguez

 

Annabell Guadalupe Rodriguez was 10 years old, family members told CNN affiliate KHOU-TV.

Her family told the news station that she was in the same classroom as her cousin Jacklyn Jaylen Cazares, who was also killed in the shooting.

 

Maite Rodriguez

 

Maite Rodriguez loved animals, sewing and photography.

 

Maite Rodriguez, 10, dreamed of becoming a marine biologist and had her heart set on attending Texas A&M in Corpus Christi, said her mother, Ana Rodriguez, on Facebook.

Maite was "sweet, charismatic, loving, caring, loyal, free, ambitious, funny, silly, goal driven" and her best friend, she said.

Ana Rodriguez wrote that her daughter loved animals and photography and learned to sew on her own by watching YouTube videos.

Rodriguez ended her Facebook post with a message to her daughter, which read, "it's not goodbye it's I'll see you later my sweet girl. I LOVE YOU."

Alexandria 'Lexi' Rubio

 

Lexi Rubio was 10 years old and had just made the honor roll.

 

Lexi Rubio, 10, made the All-A honor roll and received a good citizen award, her parents Felix and Kimberly Rubio told CNN. Just before the shooting, the two had just celebrated their daughter's achievements at school.

"We told her we loved her and would pick her up after school. We had no idea this was goodbye," Kimberly Rubio wrote in a post on Facebook.

The parents told CNN they were proud of their daughter, who loved softball and basketball. She wanted to be a lawyer when she grew up, the family told CNN.

"She was kind, sweet, and appreciated life. She was going to be an all-star in softball and had a bright future, whether it's sports or academic. Please let the world know we miss our baby."

Felix Rubio, a deputy with the Uvalde County Sheriff's Office, told CNN's Jason Carroll he was one of many authorities who responded to the scene of the shooting. The grieving father said he wants to see gun violence addressed.

"All I can hope is that she's just not a number," he said through tears. "This is enough. No one else needs to go through this. We never needed to go through this, but we are."

Layla Salazar

 

Layla Salazar, 11, loved to run, film Tik Tok videos and dance.

 

Layla Salazar, 11, loved to swim with her two older brothers, her family told CNN.

She was an active child who loved to run, film Tik Tok videos and dance, her parents Vincent Salazar III and Melinda Alejandro Salazar said.

"Our hearts are shattered because of this," her grandfather Vincent Salazar Jr. said.

Jailah Nicole Silguero

 

Jailah Nicole Silguero was 10 years old.

 

Jailah Nicole Silguero was 10 years old and enjoyed dancing and making TikTok videos, her mother Veronica Luevanos told CNN network partner, Univision.

Luevanos said in the interview that her daughter asked to stay home from school Tuesday morning but that she said no.

Nancy Salazar, a family friend, started a GoFundMe page to help the family and wrote that Silguero "was a delighted, energetic, Lovely little girl."

Luevanos also told Univision that she lost her nephew in the shooting but did not give his name.

Eliahana 'Elijah' Cruz Torres

Eliahana "Elijah" Cruz Torres, 10, was also killed in the shooting, her aunt Leandra Vera told CNN. "Our baby gained her wings," Vera said.

Rojelio Torres

 

Robb Elementary victim Rojelio Torres, 10.

 

Rojelio Torres was 10 years old, his aunt Precious Perez told CNN affiliate KSAT.

The family waited nearly 12 hours to find out if her nephew was one of the victims, Perez said.

"We are devastated and heartbroken," she said. "Rojer was a very intelligent, hard-working and helpful person. He will be missed and never forgotten."

Before receiving the news about his son, Torres' father, Federico Torres told CNN affiliate KHOU that he learned about the shooting through friends. He left work and rushed to the school, but officials there did not give him information right away, he said.

In a Facebook post, Torres' mother Evadulia Orta posted a photo of her son and wrote "RIP to my son Rojelio Torres we love you and miss you."

[Big Guy 1,400]

 

[huskyhater75 242]

10 hours ago, Big Guy said:

 

WHAT? Texans ALWAYS act tough until something happens to them...................and then they play the "blamegame". FACT-your cocky/better/than/everybody/else attitude and your a-hole governor creates a attitude that nobody cares about-YOU texans voted your governor in-deal with it, that can't protect you, he's (just like trump and florida's a-hole governor) just in it for himself, he doesn't care about you. I feel sorry for you maga fools that believe trumpy is for you-he's a selfish SOB.

[huskyhater75 242]

Gutless laughing face coward, no name to show............afraid.

[Big Guy 1,400]

26 minutes ago, huskyhater75 said:

WHAT? Texans ALWAYS act tough until something happens to them...................and then they play the "blamegame". FACT-your cocky/better/than/everybody/else attitude and your a-hole governor creates a attitude that nobody cares about-YOU texans voted your governor in-deal with it, that can't protect you, he's (just like trump and florida's a-hole governor) just in it for himself, he doesn't care about you. I feel sorry for you maga fools that believe trumpy is for you-he's a selfish SOB.

WTF?

These Cops are either either complicit to a false flag for political gain ( Dems ) or straight up pu$$ies

[huskyhater75 242]

2 minutes ago, Big Guy said:

WTF?

These Cops are either either complicit to a false flag for political gain ( Dems ) or straight up pu$$ies

Where's the governor-in Mexico on vacation? That's what he does. Political gain? WTF about the LOSERS (and the ones trump is backing ARE losing in primaries). Are the repub governor and the gutless, lying, 2 faced POS's in Congress afraid of losing their paychecks from the NRA?  But hell..........a few kids getting killed is okay with you imbeciles, right? EFF YOU ba$tard$! This is on YOU-AND WHO you back!

[Big Guy 1,400]

2 minutes ago, huskyhater75 said:

Where's the governor-in Mexico on vacation? That's what he does. Political gain? WTF about the LOSERS (and the ones trump is backing ARE losing in primaries). Are the repub governor and the gutless, lying, 2 faced POS's in Congress afraid of losing their paychecks from the NRA?  But hell..........a few kids getting killed is okay with you imbeciles, right? EFF YOU ba$tard$! This is on YOU-AND WHO you back!

lighten up Francis 

you don't know how logic works do you?

[Utilit99 4,099]

4 minutes ago, Big Guy said:

lighten up Francis 

you don't know how logic works do you?

I think he's off his meds. 

[huskyhater75 242]

21 minutes ago, Big Guy said:

lighten up Francis 

you don't know how logic works do you?

YOU are a MORON because you support trump-FACT. WHY do you bring up logic? BECAUSE you can't answer my FACTS. WHY do you imbeciles ALWAYS (you're gutless) answer a question with a question-WTF is WRONG (old DI days-used to asking that) with you, son?

[JustinCharge 2,397]

so if the police do something, people will nitpick it until they find police brutality and burn buildings, loot, tear down statues.

if they adjust and act extra careful beyond any semblance of sense to avoid riots, they get blamed for inaction.

why dont democrats just say they hate this country and stop beating around the bush?

 

im still waiting for the liberals to deputize antifa to "fix" this.  ive been saying that for 5-6 years.  thats the true goal.  deputize antifa.

[Utilit99 4,099]

25 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

so if the police do something, people will nitpick it until they find police brutality and burn buildings, loot, tear down statues.

if they adjust and act extra careful beyond any semblance of sense to avoid riots, they get blamed for inaction.

why dont democrats just say they hate this country and stop beating around the bush?

 

im still waiting for the liberals to deputize antifa to "fix" this.  ive been saying that for 5-6 years.  thats the true goal.  deputize antifa.

Correct. He was a person of color after all. 

If they shoot him before he shoots anyone else, watch out Portland and Minneapolis and Chicago and the rest.....I mean, they should have brought a social worker to calm his nerves by talking him into not wanting to be violent. That's what the left has been telling us for years now, no?  

[Voltaire 4,564]

The state cop that gave ups the timeline yesterday said the local cops on the scene were treating it as a barricade rather than a hostage situation. Apparently they had nineteen cops keeping the hallway secure but it wasn't until agitated feds from the border patrol took matters in their own hands that the problem got solved. Meanwhile a good dozen heavily armed cops in full body armor spent nearly an hour outside the school preventing frantic parents from charging in while desperate children in room 112 and elsewhere were calling 911.

This all reflects very poorly on the senior local police official at the scene.  I'm pretty pissed off and as ready as everyone else to shame and call for the badge of the focker who made that decision to wait. If there is a reed of hope this makes any sense, I'd like to hear it. He'd best speak up before we ruin his career and honor and give him the Scot Peterson treatment. He and the other eighteen cops in the building ought to step forward and explain the call was made that way and WTF they were doing.

[Utilit99 4,099]

16 pages of people on this site alone with opinions on what happened there when the people who were there are reporting conflicting stories on a daily basis and the people who were not there seem to know it all. 

Details matter and no one on this site or on twit has them. 

Whatever. Because what this massive coverage does is give over to kids, who hold a lot of hate and don't mind dying, better ideas for their final hurrah. 

You can bet this type of disaster will continue to trend up the more coverage it gets.  

  

[TimHauck 1,802]

42 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Correct. He was a person of color after all. 

If they shoot him before he shoots anyone else, watch out Portland and Minneapolis and Chicago and the rest.....I mean, they should have brought a social worker to calm his nerves by talking him into not wanting to be violent. That's what the left has been telling us for years now, no?  

Except he shot his grandmother before he got to the school, so you’re talking out of your butt per usual 

[TimHauck 1,802]

25 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

The state cop that gave ups the timeline yesterday said the local cops on the scene were treating it as a barricade rather than a hostage situation. Apparently they had nineteen cops keeping the hallway secure but it wasn't until agitated feds from the border patrol took matters in their own hands that the problem got solved. Meanwhile a good dozen heavily armed cops in full body armor spent nearly an hour outside the school preventing frantic parents from charging in while desperate children in room 112 and elsewhere were calling 911.

This all reflects very poorly on the senior local police official at the scene.  I'm pretty pissed off and as ready as everyone else to shame and call for the badge of the focker who made that decision to wait. If there is a reed of hope this makes any sense, I'd like to hear it. He'd best speak up before we ruin his career and honor and give him the Scot Peterson treatment. He and the other eighteen cops in the building ought to step forward and explain the call was made that way and WTF they were doing.

Agreed.  The only thing that would make the slightest bit of sense would be if they thought everyone else was already dead.  But they were getting multiple 911 calls from inside the classroom

[Utilit99 4,099]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Except he shot his grandmother before he got to the school, so you’re talking out of your butt per usual 

Don't you have a chinese flu to be worried about? 

[TimHauck 1,802]

5 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

16 pages of people on this site alone with opinions on what happened there when the people who were there are reporting conflicting stories on a daily basis and the people who were not there seem to know it all. 

Details matter and no one on this site or on twit has them. 

Whatever. Because what this massive coverage does is give over to kids, who hold a lot of hate and don't mind dying, better ideas for their final hurrah. 

You can bet this type of disaster will continue to trend up the more coverage it gets.  

  

You mean massive coverage like this, which is one of the only mainstream news I’ve seen to essentially glorify the shooter?

And if the police had intervened sooner and there were no or few casualties, it wouldn’t be as big of a story.

[Utilit99 4,099]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

You mean massive coverage like this, which is one of the only mainstream news I’ve seen to essentially glorify the shooter?

And if the police had intervened sooner and there were no or few casualties, it wouldn’t be as big of a story.

Buffalo anyone? 

Triggered....

[TimHauck 1,802]

1 minute ago, Utilit99 said:

Buffalo anyone? 

Triggered....

What about Buffalo?

[Utilit99 4,099]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

What about Buffalo?

What about any of it? You post a Tucker Carlson clip for some reason that makes no sense. 

Let's keep talking about all of it. When you know nothing of the details. 

[TimHauck 1,802]

28 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

What about any of it? You post a Tucker Carlson clip for some reason that makes no sense. 

Let's keep talking about all of it. When you know nothing of the details. 

You think Tucker makes no sense?  Good to know.

The police literally gave us a timeline of what we know.  Over 45 minutes passed between when a girl called 911 from inside the room with the shooter which was at the same time that as many as 19 police officers were in the hallway, and when the police actually entered the room.  Yes, there are other things we can try to do to prevent it from happening in the first place, but that is simply unacceptable.

[Utilit99 4,099]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

You think Tucker makes no sense?  Good to know.

The police literally gave us a timeline of what we know.  Over 45 minutes passed between when a girl called 911 from inside the room with the shooter which was at the same time that as many as 19 police officers were in the hallway, and when the police actually entered the room.  Yes, there are other things we can try to do to prevent it from happening in the first place, but that is simply unacceptable.

I didn't listen to it. I don't like the advertising of all this.

And I still hear conflicting stories all over the place. 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,659]

Illegals are incarcerated at a higher rate than citizens.  This is known and not worth debating anymore. 

[TimHauck 1,802]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Illegals are incarcerated at a higher rate than citizens.  This is known and not worth debating anymore. 

Ok?