Hawkeye21 2,066 Posted April 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Crestwood 2 said: It’s not cancel culture when one group of people decides to stop spending their own money on a certain brand/product. Were they offended though, because I also said that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crestwood 2 128 Posted April 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, MDC said: Geeks who wish death on other people and talk about minors getting raped and watching porn are taking a stand against this perverted case of light beer. So brave! Little Johnny always trying to get a seat at the grown up table. We’ll let you in when the adults are done, honey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,341 Posted April 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Crestwood 2 said: Little Johnny always trying to get a seat at the grown up table. We’ll let you in when the adults are done, honey Grown up table lol. This guy thinks GC swordfighting is like the Lincoln Douglas debates. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,540 Posted April 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, Crestwood 2 said: Little Johnny always trying to get a seat at the grown up table. We’ll let you in when the adults are done, honey He’s triggered. It’s fun to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,094 Posted April 25, 2023 29 minutes ago, Reality said: Sales dipped significantly, it clearly wasn't a small number of people. Sane people are the one's speaking with their wallets. HTH AB knows they focked up, that's why the reacted so quickly. Chalk one up to capitalism at work. Do you have some sort of issue with individuals speaking with their wallets? You whine quite a bit, WTF do you care how people spend their $$? These are the same posters in the Disney thread who are arguing that Disney not being able to show movies and losing out in a 2.6 billion dollar market isn't a big deal either. I hope none of these guys are accountants, investment bankers or stock traders for anyone else but themselves. They really need to stay away from any jobs that involve math and risk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crestwood 2 128 Posted April 25, 2023 Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said: These are the same posters in the Disney thread who are arguing that Disney not being able to show movies in a 2.6 billion dollar market isn't a big deal either. I hope none of these guys are accountants, investment bankers or stock traders for anyone else but themselves. They really need to stay away from any jobs that involve math and risk. I think they’re are a couple executive assistants here that bring coffee and donuts into the conference room on occasion though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 565 Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said: How is a company trying to tap into another demographic succumbing to woke ideologies? Well....my questions would be 1)did they do market research on the intended demographic to see what types of beverages they were drinking? 2) did they analyze the potential reaction of their largest demographic(blue collar conservatives) & it's potential affect on it's current profits vs any gains from the new demographic? 3) are they known to entice other demographic groups with the same type of marketing strategy on a product so reliant on one primary demographic? I would chance that the answer to all of these questions is no. The fact that(according to AB themselves) nobody at the senior executive level approved this campaign only further reinforces this. Their actions clearly point to succumbing to woke ideologies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,158 Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: Here is the only important truth: 1. Bud Light tasted awful before this controversy. 2. Bud Light tastes awful during this controversy. 3. Bud Light will continue to taste awful long after this controversy has passed. Wow, we actually agree on something! <= non-rice beer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Horseshoe 348 Posted April 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Crestwood 2 said: Their sales are down 20%. Do YOU think that Bud light execs think that they focked up? "Inflation can be blamed for part of it, but that’s not the whole story behind the skyrocketing prices. The price increases started in early 2020, when people were panic buying because of the pandemic. Prices continued to rise in the soda industry thanks to the cost of aluminum increasing. According to Reuters in an early 2021 report, the cost of aluminum climbed about 60% over the course of a year. " https://www.cantonrep.com/story/lifestyle/food/2022/09/09/no-end-in-sight-to-the-soda-price-increase-heres-why-inflation-pepsi-co-coca-cola/65468587007/ ****** There are some other factors here. For example, as family budgets get tighter, some things like cord cutting or cancelling gym memberships has become quite commonplace. The Mulvaney situation might not be the full reason for all the losses, but could have operated as the tipping point for some consumers already hit with "sticker shock" to rising costs. Beer is a luxury. It's not a staple. If a family has to pick eggs and milk or beer and snack foods, well they are going to go for the staples. A major selling point for Bud Light was, relative to some other options, it was cheap. When it stops being cheap, then you start to see some dynamics change. When 12 packs become 8 packs, if it changes like with soda, then people make adjustments. For example, Unilever can say some pretty harsh woke political things that piss people off, but if it's Hellman's mayonnaise, it won't take much for people to flee. The price of mayo has skyrocketed in the past few years. Put it this way, the losses are likely a range of complex situations all coming at once, but clearly AB is operating outside of a practical margin of error here. This is another "factor" that didn't need to happen. It was self inflicted. This is like when your favorite NFL franchise hires a new GM. You don't know if he'll make the team better or not, but the baseline expectation is that he doesn't make it worse. You don't want a GM who consistently takes bad situations and keeps making them worse and worse for no good reason at all. Whatever losses that will happen are self inflicted and didn't have to happen. There's no reason why people should make their own jobs harder for zero return. And that's what happened here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crestwood 2 128 Posted April 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Blue Horseshoe said: "Inflation can be blamed for part of it, but that’s not the whole story behind the skyrocketing prices. The price increases started in early 2020, when people were panic buying because of the pandemic. Prices continued to rise in the soda industry thanks to the cost of aluminum increasing. According to Reuters in an early 2021 report, the cost of aluminum climbed about 60% over the course of a year. " https://www.cantonrep.com/story/lifestyle/food/2022/09/09/no-end-in-sight-to-the-soda-price-increase-heres-why-inflation-pepsi-co-coca-cola/65468587007/ ****** There are some other factors here. For example, as family budgets get tighter, some things like cord cutting or cancelling gym memberships has become quite commonplace. The Mulvaney situation might not be the full reason for all the losses, but could have operated as the tipping point for some consumers already hit with "sticker shock" to rising costs. Beer is a luxury. It's not a staple. If a family has to pick eggs and milk or beer and snack foods, well they are going to go for the staples. A major selling point for Bud Light was, relative to some other options, it was cheap. When it stops being cheap, then you start to see some dynamics change. When 12 packs become 8 packs, if it changes like with soda, then people make adjustments. For example, Unilever can say some pretty harsh woke political things that piss people off, but if it's Hellman's mayonnaise, it won't take much for people to flee. The price of mayo has skyrocketed in the past few years. Put it this way, the losses are likely a range of complex situations all coming at once, but clearly AB is operating outside of a practical margin of error here. This is another "factor" that didn't need to happen. It was self inflicted. This is like when your favorite NFL franchise hires a new GM. You don't know if he'll make the team better or not, but the baseline expectation is that he doesn't make it worse. You don't want a GM who consistently takes bad situations and keeps making them worse and worse for no good reason at all. Whatever losses that will happen are self inflicted and didn't have to happen. There's no reason why people should make their own jobs harder for zero return. And that's what happened here. 1) Alcohol is recession proof 2) bud light is already dirt cheap 3) The GM of my team is Howie Roseman Bud Light is down 20% because of the tranny debacle, plain and simple. That being said, I do like Anacott Steel, so thank you for that laugh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,540 Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Blue Horseshoe said: "Inflation can be blamed for part of it, but that’s not the whole story behind the skyrocketing prices. The price increases started in early 2020, when people were panic buying because of the pandemic. Prices continued to rise in the soda industry thanks to the cost of aluminum increasing. According to Reuters in an early 2021 report, the cost of aluminum climbed about 60% over the course of a year. " https://www.cantonrep.com/story/lifestyle/food/2022/09/09/no-end-in-sight-to-the-soda-price-increase-heres-why-inflation-pepsi-co-coca-cola/65468587007/ ****** There are some other factors here. For example, as family budgets get tighter, some things like cord cutting or cancelling gym memberships has become quite commonplace. The Mulvaney situation might not be the full reason for all the losses, but could have operated as the tipping point for some consumers already hit with "sticker shock" to rising costs. Beer is a luxury. It's not a staple. If a family has to pick eggs and milk or beer and snack foods, well they are going to go for the staples. A major selling point for Bud Light was, relative to some other options, it was cheap. When it stops being cheap, then you start to see some dynamics change. When 12 packs become 8 packs, if it changes like with soda, then people make adjustments. For example, Unilever can say some pretty harsh woke political things that piss people off, but if it's Hellman's mayonnaise, it won't take much for people to flee. The price of mayo has skyrocketed in the past few years. Put it this way, the losses are likely a range of complex situations all coming at once, but clearly AB is operating outside of a practical margin of error here. This is another "factor" that didn't need to happen. It was self inflicted. This is like when your favorite NFL franchise hires a new GM. You don't know if he'll make the team better or not, but the baseline expectation is that he doesn't make it worse. You don't want a GM who consistently takes bad situations and keeps making them worse and worse for no good reason at all. Whatever losses that will happen are self inflicted and didn't have to happen. There's no reason why people should make their own jobs harder for zero return. And that's what happened here. Except Coors and Miller Lite sales are up since the tranny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,043 Posted April 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Blue Horseshoe said: "Inflation can be blamed for part of it, but that’s not the whole story behind the skyrocketing prices. The price increases started in early 2020, when people were panic buying because of the pandemic. Prices continued to rise in the soda industry thanks to the cost of aluminum increasing. According to Reuters in an early 2021 report, the cost of aluminum climbed about 60% over the course of a year. " https://www.cantonrep.com/story/lifestyle/food/2022/09/09/no-end-in-sight-to-the-soda-price-increase-heres-why-inflation-pepsi-co-coca-cola/65468587007/ ****** There are some other factors here. For example, as family budgets get tighter, some things like cord cutting or cancelling gym memberships has become quite commonplace. The Mulvaney situation might not be the full reason for all the losses, but could have operated as the tipping point for some consumers already hit with "sticker shock" to rising costs. Beer is a luxury. It's not a staple. If a family has to pick eggs and milk or beer and snack foods, well they are going to go for the staples. A major selling point for Bud Light was, relative to some other options, it was cheap. When it stops being cheap, then you start to see some dynamics change. When 12 packs become 8 packs, if it changes like with soda, then people make adjustments. For example, Unilever can say some pretty harsh woke political things that piss people off, but if it's Hellman's mayonnaise, it won't take much for people to flee. The price of mayo has skyrocketed in the past few years. Put it this way, the losses are likely a range of complex situations all coming at once, but clearly AB is operating outside of a practical margin of error here. This is another "factor" that didn't need to happen. It was self inflicted. This is like when your favorite NFL franchise hires a new GM. You don't know if he'll make the team better or not, but the baseline expectation is that he doesn't make it worse. You don't want a GM who consistently takes bad situations and keeps making them worse and worse for no good reason at all. Whatever losses that will happen are self inflicted and didn't have to happen. There's no reason why people should make their own jobs harder for zero return. And that's what happened here. According to the NY Post article, dollar sales were down -17% and volume was down -21%. That means pricing is only up roughly +4% (but is also impacted by the quantities people are purchasing). The numbers sound bad and probably are, but there’s not a lot of context included except for the 1 week prior. The VP had said Bud Light had been declining previously, so we don’t really know what the longer term trends were. The market share piece is confusing as well, since it said their share was down -7%, and Coors/Miller’s were up 18%. So for one that means not all of their gains are coming at the expense of a Bud Light, and if Bud Light is down -17% in sales but “only” 7% in market share, then that means the category as a whole is most likely declining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,427 Posted April 26, 2023 Look I'm not going to lie. If Bud Light is truly 80% off at that place I'd be half tempted to buy quite a bit of it. I don't particularly like Bud Light but it's getting close to picnic season and like 4 dollars for an 18 pack of Bud Light is a pretty good deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,039 Posted April 26, 2023 Crap!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,655 Posted April 26, 2023 SISTER KNOWS WHAT TIME IT IS. THAT'S A REAL ASS WOMAN!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,043 Posted April 26, 2023 1 hour ago, League Champion said: SISTER KNOWS WHAT TIME IT IS. THAT'S A REAL ASS WOMAN!!! Does this have something to do with Bud light or even trans people? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,655 Posted April 26, 2023 24 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Does this have something to do with Bud light or even trans people? She ain't Trans. Even you know it's a REAL woman. Does this post bother you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,894 Posted April 26, 2023 46 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Does this have something to do with Bud light or even trans people? He's lost it. He just spams the board with random tweets these days and says outrageous sh1t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,341 Posted April 26, 2023 I don’t necessarily think League Champion was Utoilet/Crapman but when I woke up this morning and LR had the last replies in the top 10-12 posts on Page 1 it seemed familiar. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,540 Posted April 26, 2023 Just now, MDC said: I don’t necessarily think League Champion was Utoilet/Crapman but when I woke up this morning and LR had the last replies in the top 10-12 posts on Page 1 it seemed familiar. This is what you do around here. Washwoman. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,043 Posted April 26, 2023 2 hours ago, League Champion said: She ain't Trans. Even you know it's a REAL woman. Does this post bother you? I’m just confused as to the relevance to the thread. Are you just saying Bud Light should have sent her a can with her face on it instead? Well, maybe not her face… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 157 Posted April 26, 2023 16 hours ago, Blue Horseshoe said: "Inflation can be blamed for part of it, but that’s not the whole story behind the skyrocketing prices. The price increases started in early 2020, when people were panic buying because of the pandemic. Prices continued to rise in the soda industry thanks to the cost of aluminum increasing. According to Reuters in an early 2021 report, the cost of aluminum climbed about 60% over the course of a year. " https://www.cantonrep.com/story/lifestyle/food/2022/09/09/no-end-in-sight-to-the-soda-price-increase-heres-why-inflation-pepsi-co-coca-cola/65468587007/ ****** There are some other factors here. For example, as family budgets get tighter, some things like cord cutting or cancelling gym memberships has become quite commonplace. The Mulvaney situation might not be the full reason for all the losses, but could have operated as the tipping point for some consumers already hit with "sticker shock" to rising costs. Beer is a luxury. It's not a staple. If a family has to pick eggs and milk or beer and snack foods, well they are going to go for the staples. A major selling point for Bud Light was, relative to some other options, it was cheap. When it stops being cheap, then you start to see some dynamics change. When 12 packs become 8 packs, if it changes like with soda, then people make adjustments. For example, Unilever can say some pretty harsh woke political things that piss people off, but if it's Hellman's mayonnaise, it won't take much for people to flee. The price of mayo has skyrocketed in the past few years. Put it this way, the losses are likely a range of complex situations all coming at once, but clearly AB is operating outside of a practical margin of error here. This is another "factor" that didn't need to happen. It was self inflicted. This is like when your favorite NFL franchise hires a new GM. You don't know if he'll make the team better or not, but the baseline expectation is that he doesn't make it worse. You don't want a GM who consistently takes bad situations and keeps making them worse and worse for no good reason at all. Whatever losses that will happen are self inflicted and didn't have to happen. There's no reason why people should make their own jobs harder for zero return. And that's what happened here. Why companies get involved in this separation stuff is beyond me. Just do the usual safe thing. Show a party with whites, blacks, hispanics, asians all drinking beer together, then throw in a couple gays and trannys drinking with the group. Then nobody cares and everybody is "included" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,289 Posted April 26, 2023 20 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Here is the only important truth: 1. Bud Light tasted awful before this controversy. 2. Bud Light tastes awful during this controversy. 3. Bud Light will continue to taste awful long after this controversy has passed. 18 hours ago, DonS said: Wow, we actually agree on something! <= non-rice beer Ditto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,894 Posted April 26, 2023 2 hours ago, MDC said: I don’t necessarily think League Champion was Utoilet/Crapman but when I woke up this morning and LR had the last replies in the top 10-12 posts on Page 1 it seemed familiar. Not the first time it's happened. Ever since the other aliases stopped doing it, League Champion started. Dude has zero self control. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 1,593 Posted April 26, 2023 29 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said: Why companies get involved in this separation stuff is beyond me. Just do the usual safe thing. Show a party with whites, blacks, hispanics, asians all drinking beer together, then throw in a couple gays and trannys drinking with the group. Then nobody cares and everybody is "included" Whoa whoa whoa. A couple "guys" with pink polos and/or man-buns is plenty enough to get the message of inclusion across. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,263 Posted April 26, 2023 Conservative Dad's Ultra Right Beer, which launched immediately after Americans began boycotting Bud Light for its controversial partnership with transgender influencer Dylan Mulvaney, is expected to surpass $1 million in sales since mid-April, FOX Business has learned. After only being in business 12 days, Ultra Right is expected to surpass $1 million in sales by Sunday, gaining over 10,000 customers and selling 20,000 six-packs since the April launch. "This is more than a beer company, it's a movement of people who are speaking up and saying no. We're done. This is our line in the sand," Ultra Right CEO Seth Weathers told FOX Business in an exclusive interview Tuesday, stressing that the sales are more of "a movement of people" than the purchase of a product. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 6,341 Posted April 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: https://ultrarightbeer.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,263 Posted April 26, 2023 https://ultrarightbeer.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,894 Posted April 26, 2023 I saw that the original brewer declined after learning about the political slant, that's what took them longer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,894 Posted April 26, 2023 Also anyone that drinks beer or doesn't drink beer based on politics is a focking ass hole. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,263 Posted April 26, 2023 Just now, GutterBoy said: Also anyone that drinks beer or doesn't drink beer based on politics is a focking ass hole. Better than being a pedo drinking beer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,263 Posted April 26, 2023 And it's not about beer, it's about who you support from a cultural perspective. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,540 Posted April 26, 2023 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: Also anyone that drinks beer or doesn't drink beer based on politics is a focking ass hole. Sure. I bet if whatever pretentious beer you drink was a big contributor to the NRA and said so in their adverts you would keep on buying it. You’re so above it all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,894 Posted April 26, 2023 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: And it's not about beer, it's about who you support from a cultural perspective. Then donate to a PAC that supports your ideas. Don't buy beer from some grifter who is just looking to take advantage of you to make money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,366 Posted April 26, 2023 Just now, GutterBoy said: Also anyone that drinks beer or doesn't drink beer based on politics is a focking ass hole. It is same mindset as the folks who renamed french fries "Freedom Fries" 20 years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,894 Posted April 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Sure. I bet if whatever pretentious beer you drink was a big contributor to the NRA and said so in their adverts you would keep on buying it. You’re so above it all. Of course I would. They could be NRA members for all I know, I never cared enough to look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,263 Posted April 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Then donate to a PAC that supports your ideas. Don't buy beer from some grifter who is just looking to take advantage of you to make money. It's worth the advertising to get rid of pedos. I'll support it. Fock your politics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 1,878 Posted April 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Also anyone that drinks beer or doesn't drink beer based on politics is a focking ass hole. Oh they’re some kind of hole. Just the one you usually find on a woman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,894 Posted April 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: It's worth the advertising to get rid of pedos. I'll support it. Fock your politics. This ultraright beer gets rid of pedos now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites