16 Year old shot twice after ringing doorbell, shooter held and released

[TimHauck 3,091]

24 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Most of it is Democrat policies, but I agree it is not the only influence, just the most important one. Across time, few things have been as destructive to the success of that community as Democrats.

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I can do this all day, and I can point to the legislation, Democrat-driven, that was used to pander for votes but which directly harmed the AA community,  Look at what Biden has done for the last two years!   His actions to inflame inflation, increase fuel costs, who do you think that hurts the most? Democrats dont care, they care about votes and how to buy power, not about how to help people.

 

Still on the “liberal policies cause crime in heavily Republican areas” kick I see

[wiffleball 4,793]

So if you are a heavily armed gang of Thug cops knocking on the wrong door, it's okay to kill the homeowner who's exercising his second amendment rights. But if you're just a scrawny unarmed black kid knocking on the door then the homeowner should go to jail.

[RLLD 4,275]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Still on the “liberal policies cause crime in heavily Republican areas” kick I see

100% 

Democrat policies have ruining opportunities across the board for African Americans, and continue to do so.  They start at the federal level and they hit them everywhere,  We have the proof, we have plenty of examples. 

[RLLD 4,275]

Just now, wiffleball said:

So if you are a heavily armed gang of Thug cops knocking on the wrong door, it's okay to kill the homeowner who's exercising his second amendment rights. But if you're just a scrawny unarmed black kid knocking on the door then the homeowner should go to jail.

Not sure this instance is the right one for a strawman, but it might get some traction, 

[seafoam1 3,241]

1 minute ago, wiffleball said:

So if you are a heavily armed gang of Thug cops knocking on the wrong door, it's okay to kill the homeowner who's exercising his second amendment rights. But if you're just a scrawny unarmed black kid knocking on the door then the homeowner should go to jail.

Go to jail for what? Get off my lawn kid.

[Strike 5,822]

14 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

I wish I didn't live in a society where an 84 year old man got this scared when a black teenager was on his doorstep. 

This sounds eerily similar to the sentiments of Jesse Jackson:

 

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There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved.

 

[GutterBoy 2,900]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Some people here, including a few that I normally agree with, are trying to make this story about guns. I don’t think it’s about guns. Millions of law abiding Americans choose to have guns in their homes for self-protection. And there’s nothing wrong with that. 

This story is about race. The shooter was racially motivated. That’s why it’s getting more attention than the similar story in NY, and it should get more attention since young white people are not generally victims in our society, while young black people all too often are. That’s the difference. That’s the reason for the outrage. The outrage is justified. 

Well without guns, then their racism doesn't result in death.

But you can argue that it's less about race and more about fear.  If you watch Foxnews all day, and follow the League Champion twitter, you are going to be scared of people breaking into your house and killing you.

[TimHauck 3,091]

Similar case from 1992 and shooter was found not guilty.   If these 2 guys are, maybe we have made some progress

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Yoshihiro_Hattori

[Cloaca du jour 2,152]

25 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Well without guns, then their racism doesn't result in death.

But you can argue that it's less about race and more about fear.  If you watch Foxnews all day, and follow the League Champion twitter, you are going to be scared of people breaking into your house and killing you.

Asking a kid to go pick up his kid brother in an unknown neighborhood ...is the problem.  Where was mom?  How is it this kids responsibility?  Where was the mother?  Other adult family family members...etc.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,680]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

This is where we diverge. I do not apply "history" to circumstances of today, that is a pointeless endeavor.  It is repugnant to take a situation and then suggest it has some special context because of race, because it is racist.  You should work to avoid that. Bad people do bad things, regardless of color. Stop introducing that excrement, it foments fear, hatred and division. 

You opion of black people is wrong, certainly lower than mine, and I would encourage you to see them as powerful and competitive despite the culrtural impediments. Liberals can and do manipulate people, its happening with consistency. Not just AA's, many others as well. YOU and YOUR ilk think they are stupid and lower standards to help them compete, which is rather demeaning. 

AA's are very capable, when not being told they are lesser by liberals. 

You think Tim ever had to compete against a black person, for anything? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,680]

56 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Still on the “liberal policies cause crime in heavily Republican areas” kick I see

Did you see what went on in NYC yesterday? Those people seem to think liberal policies aren’t protecting them. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,680]

Thankfully there was a white neighbor that came over and saved the kids life. As long as it’s all about race. 

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15 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

White girl in upstate NY was killed in the same fashion Saturday. Crickets.  

Wrong as usual, Clown.  One of the early stories on GMA.  It's like you guys are just deliberately stupid........

[GutterBoy 2,900]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Did you see what went on in NYC yesterday? 

OH NOES NYC SO SCARY!

[HellToupee 1,977]

5 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

OH NOES 

Another @squistion alias uncovered

[KSB2424 3,148]

I don’t know the details if they are even out.  Did he just fire through the door?

ETA: reading about it now.  Just weird all around, glad the kid is okay.  Old man was in the wrong, deserves some sort of charge.  Overreaction. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,610]

3 hours ago, Reality said:

Nobody wants honest discussion about any of this.

I feel for the kid, horrible situation and the old man will be charged.

Correct.  White liberals need to tell black people what to be mad/concerned with.

[KSB2424 3,148]

With all the death and destruction going on in America every single day, this story seems odd it’s front page.  The kid is home.  

[RogerDodger 798]

1 hour ago, zsasz said:

Wrong as usual, Clown.  One of the early stories on GMA.  It's like you guys are just deliberately stupid........

White girl murders appeal to the housewives and phags sitting at home watching GMA on a weekday.

[dogcows 1,032]

5 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Correct.  White liberals need to tell black people what to be mad/concerned with.

The most persistent voices drawing attention to these types of things in America are NOT white people. Ben Crump should be pretty recognizable by now if you follow any of these cases.

And the argument from the nitwit Shapiro is not about statistics. It’s about a white man shooting a black child because he was black. That’s what this is truly about, not statistics. How many black people in that chart shot a white child simply for being white? I’m guessing none. It’s truly pathetic that the nasally-voiced, limp-dikked nitwit Shapiro is going around deflecting from the real issue with overall crime statistics. But it’s not surprising that low-IQ wannabe Klansmen repeat it as if it’s some kind of genius realization.

Shooting children solely over their skin color is beyond reprehensible. Shapiro is showing his true colors by changing the topic in order to take attention away from this violent racist shooter.

[TimHauck 3,091]

Supposedly the old dude did seem to actually express that he felt bad about what happened.  Like I said earlier the dude being 84 makes some of the police decisions a little less questionable.   I don't see why they couldn't have stated that (that he was 84 and not a flight risk or something) even without releasing his name, as I still maintain that a key part of this that made it a story was the fact that the guy was initially released.   Since charges were announced I haven't seen as much talk about it.

[Mike Honcho 5,339]

19 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

With all the death and destruction going on in America every single day, this story seems odd it’s front page.  The kid is home.  

What's wrong with you??? I hope HT tells you that he hopes this happens to your kid!

[KSB2424 3,148]

Wait.  Now I’m reading intitially it was reported the young person was in the house.  Then it went to just ringing a doorbell, now he was pulling on the door “trying” to enter.  

JFC.  Whatever the true story is we’ll never know unless there was a Ring camera or something.  I don’t trust the media though.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,610]

8 minutes ago, dogcows said:

The most persistent voices drawing attention to these types of things in America are NOT white people. Ben Crump should be pretty recognizable by now if you follow any of these cases.

And the argument from the nitwit Shapiro is not about statistics. It’s about a white man shooting a black child because he was black. That’s what this is truly about, not statistics. How many black people in that chart shot a white child simply for being white? I’m guessing none. It’s truly pathetic that the nasally-voiced, limp-dikked nitwit Shapiro is going around deflecting from the real issue with overall crime statistics. But it’s not surprising that low-IQ wannabe Klansmen repeat it as if it’s some kind of genius realization.

Shooting children solely over their skin color is beyond reprehensible. Shapiro is showing his true colors by changing the topic in order to take attention away from this violent racist shooter.

I don't know if it's funny or sad that you actually believe what you typed.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,610]

24 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

White girl murders appeal to the housewives and phags sitting at home watching GMA on a weekday.

There are much better ways to say this, but your premise is correct.

[Fireballer 2,659]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I still maintain that a key part of this that made it a story was the fact that the guy was initially released. 

Only to people ignorant of how law enforcement works

[TimHauck 3,091]

1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

Only to people ignorant of how law enforcement works

So are you going to admit you were wrong about him being "questioned and released" initially?

[Engorgeous George 2,332]

18 minutes ago, dogcows said:

The most persistent voices drawing attention to these types of things in America are NOT white people. Ben Crump should be pretty recognizable by now if you follow any of these cases.

And the argument from the nitwit Shapiro is not about statistics. It’s about a white man shooting a black child because he was black. That’s what this is truly about, not statistics. How many black people in that chart shot a white child simply for being white? I’m guessing none. It’s truly pathetic that the nasally-voiced, limp-dikked nitwit Shapiro is going around deflecting from the real issue with overall crime statistics. But it’s not surprising that low-IQ wannabe Klansmen repeat it as if it’s some kind of genius realization.

Shooting children solely over their skin color is beyond reprehensible. Shapiro is showing his true colors by changing the topic in order to take attention away from this violent racist shooter.

I find it fascinating that Klansmen would take their talking points from a Jew, but maybe so.  

[Fireballer 2,659]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

So are you going to admit you were wrong about him being "questioned and released" initially?

First of all, if he was just questioned, he never would have left the scene.  But, he was detained and held.  One is custodial, one is not.  That’s a huge difference in the eyes of the law. Furthermore, you added “questioned and released” as a footnote to imply that you were aghast that he walked even though you based your opinion on info from news articles. Turns out I was right.  Like I said, only those ignorant were surprised he was released.

[RogerDodger 798]

19 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

First of all, if he was just questioned, he never would have left the scene.  But, he was detained and held.  One is custodial, one is not.  That’s a huge difference in the eyes of the law. Furthermore, you added “questioned and released” as a footnote to imply that you were aghast that he walked even though you based your opinion on info from news articles. Turns out I was right.  Like I said, only those ignorant were surprised he was released.

I'm sure they tried to gather up as much evidence as possible to try and charge him before the 24 hours expired before they had to let him go BY LAW.  Since they weren't able to do that they just go and arrest him later BY LAW after they have enough evidence.  Only an idiot would think they were really letting him go.

[TimHauck 3,091]

24 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

First of all, if he was just questioned, he never would have left the scene.  But, he was detained and held.  One is custodial, one is not.  That’s a huge difference in the eyes of the law. Furthermore, you added “questioned and released” as a footnote to imply that you were aghast that he walked even though you based your opinion on info from news articles. Turns out I was right.  Like I said, only those ignorant were surprised he was released.

Huh?  Since when does being questioned have to happen at the scene?

You were right about what?  You only would’ve been “right” if they declined to press charges at all.  Yes I understand as @Engorgeous George has stated that they were likely just dotting their I’s and crossing their T’s, but I don’t think it’s that common that shooters would be released so quickly with no charges in similar situations.

[RogerDodger 798]

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Huh?  Since when does being questioned have to happen at the scene?

You were right about what?  You only would’ve been “right” if they declined to press charges at all.  Yes I understand as @Engorgeous George has stated that they were likely just dotting their I’s and crossing their T’s, but I don’t think it’s that common that shooters would be released so quickly with no charges in similar situations.

It's their state law they that if they don't charge within 24 hours they have to release you.  They didn't have all the goods by then.  Now they do.  JFC retard.  

[Engorgeous George 2,332]

I'd respect Bud more if instead of promoting some flouncing bint they just came right out and stated their case.  

 

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Ladies, getting wrong holed is thirsty work, thats why we here at Bud light see to it that our beers are sold ice cold and ready to quench your thirst or to use as a cold compress.

 

looks like i am in the wrong thread.  i'm going to leave it here as it does not really detract.

[Alias Detective 1,433]

19 hours ago, dogcows said:

The prosecutors issued a warrant for the killer, an 84-year old white man. They said there was a racial component, but didn’t get into details.

https://www.kcur.org/live-updates/ralph-yarl-kansas-city-shooting-protest

They also don’t know where the shooter is now.

Good news? The kid is out of the hospital and recovering at home.

 

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Lester is white, and Yarl is Black. The county prosecutor says "there was a racial component to the case."

 

 

[Fireballer 2,659]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Huh?  Since when does being questioned have to happen at the scene?

You were right about what?  You only would’ve been “right” if they declined to press charges at all.  Yes I understand as @Engorgeous George has stated that they were likely just dotting their I’s and crossing their T’s, but I don’t think it’s that common that shooters would be released so quickly with no charges in similar situations.

First, questioned isn’t even really a good legal term.  Interviewed and interrogated are better terms. If you are in custody, “questioned” or “interviewed” aren’t appropriate terms.  Additionally, what Missouri criminal statute should they have placed on his arrest warrant,  based on the facts that were known?  

[Fireballer 2,659]

9 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

It's their state law they that if they don't charge within 24 hours they have to release you.  They didn't have all the goods by then.  Now they do.  JFC retard.  

Tim is throwing due process out the window here and basically sky screaming “they must have something!!!!!!!”

[Alias Detective 1,433]

17 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Kid was shot because he was black. 

I will likely concede if the kid was white and knocked on the old man's door at 10:00 pm he likely isn't shot.

I hope you concede the kid "just being black" isn't why he was killed.  He knocked on a door too.  I mean, the old dude, in umpteen years of life, presumably hasn't made it a habit of shooting at black 16 year olds.

 

Your way of wording things is blatant trolling.

 

[KSB2424 3,148]

Will there be riots for this?  
 

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/washington-county-20-year-old-killed-saturday-17901499.php

[KSB2424 3,148]

 

[KSB2424 3,148]

Two posts up is a white girl who pulled in the wrong driveway at night and was shot dead last weekend.  Not a peep. 

Joe Biden never called the Families of the Nashville dead.  

Once you realize it’s all for politics and internet clicks you become numb. Racism sells and some of y’all eat it up with a spoon.